Giorgia Meloni Set To Become Italy's First Female Prime Minister
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I will also say this: just because she is/was a member of the Aspen Institute, that alone doesn't mean much. Think Tanks are so ubiquitous in Western politics these days that everybody at some point has some affiliation with one, even if it was just some scholarship, some participation in an event, or whatever. Same goes for the WEF. Now, if someone has had an active role in Thinktankistan for years, that might mean something. So yeah, let's wait and see. The Eurocrats sure don't like her! My guess is that if she is sincere, she will we dealt with in one form or another: stifled internally, blackmailed by the EU, character-assassinated by the media, etc.
Agree, i've decided to take the same position towards Meloni. Considering that Italy is basically a US colony, you can imagine the influence and the pressure under which the italian political apparatus was/is subjected to.
Those that dared to question the US ownership of Italy as a colony have been taken out (Aldo Mori in the '60 and others) or character assassinated as Berlusconi back in 2010-2011 thus his government being overthrown, thus being installed a banking cartel technocrat, Mario Monti. If you're wise enough to understand with whom you're dealing with then you'll have to play smart, very smart if you want to reach the point when you could try to work towards making a difference.
Assuming that the above applies at least in part to Meloni then it's understandable why she had to act the way she acted while the mighty "Drago" ruled with an iron fist during covid mass hysteria. Now that she finally reached the upper political power echelons she could be the change that her italian brothers are so craving for but not all by herself of course. And here I agree with what Alex Mercouris mentioned in the Duran video installment Luc mentioned earlier and me posting it, that if she'll forge serious and strategic alliances with more experienced politicians like Berlusconi for example, together they could make a difference and possibly survive against the mighty crushing claw of the Washington- Bruxelles hyenas.
Considering the state of affairs in Italy, that is, the little indepentent maneuvering of the political apparatus due to the huge external influences and pressure Meloni could be the only possible tolerable candidate that could at least help the italian people to see the unseen, that is, under whose rulership actually they're, that is, that they are being owned as property by the US and probably do more from there onwards.
She could be our Donald Trump. But these are just speculations and nothing more. Will have to wait and see who she really is as i've mentioned in my previous post.
Edit: clarification
Sorry, in my previous post i meant Aldo Moro, not Mori, sorry for the typo. Aldo Moro, the italian prime minister back in the 70', being assassinated after being kidnapped on the street, in plain daylight, actually in 1978 (not in the 60') by the Nato Gladio operatives.
Daniel Ganser wrote a fascinating book on the strategy of tension under which the western Europe has been subjected to in the 60', 70', 80' where he mentions the real culprits of Moro's kidnapping and assassination. The reason being that he wasn't playing ball with the US and after being warned by Kissinger during a meeting he had been taken care of.
Daniel Ganser wrote a fascinating book on the strategy of tension under which the western Europe has been subjected to in the 60', 70', 80' where he mentions the real culprits of Moro's kidnapping and assassination. The reason being that he wasn't playing ball with the US and after being warned by Kissinger during a meeting he had been taken care of.
According to la repubblica Draghi and Meloni made a pact, the former Prime Minister will act as an advisor and will soften relations with Brussels. Meloni pledges not to touch 3 pillars: support for Ukraine, loyalty to NATO and continuity in economic policy.
Meloni giving Macron 'what for' during her campaign:
Summary: Macron accused Meloni (and/or her party/ideology) of being 'disgusting, irresponsible, etc'. Meloni replied with an explainer of WHY Italy has a mass migration problem: French wars and colonial monetary policy that keeps north Africa poor and France 'energy-secure'. And that's even before the obliteration of Libya that 'opened the floodgates'.
Summary: Macron accused Meloni (and/or her party/ideology) of being 'disgusting, irresponsible, etc'. Meloni replied with an explainer of WHY Italy has a mass migration problem: French wars and colonial monetary policy that keeps north Africa poor and France 'energy-secure'. And that's even before the obliteration of Libya that 'opened the floodgates'.
So difficult to know right now whether she’s a patho putting on the clothes of a populist, or if she strategically played by the rules until she got the opportunity to get into power and make positive changes.
Just have to see how the control system responds to her. The comments from Macron don’t tell us anything, really. Could just be part of the show. Europe punishing the Italians seems to be perfectly in line with the general plan of the PTB, and she could just be playing a willing part in it.
Just have to see how the control system responds to her. The comments from Macron don’t tell us anything, really. Could just be part of the show. Europe punishing the Italians seems to be perfectly in line with the general plan of the PTB, and she could just be playing a willing part in it.
fifty_five
Jedi
Real-time repositioning. She is an Atlanticist, she is not a pro-European. If you look at the context, the European union has practically already exploded, the deindustrialization of the "autonomist"
, former backbone colony called Germany is well underway, and by all means. Multipolar re-positioning, which will then be like the usual bipolar, yawn, is a given. It will be interesting if we get there, at the level of Atlanticist geopolitics block, the outcome of the midterm in the United States.🍿
, former backbone colony called Germany is well underway, and by all means. Multipolar re-positioning, which will then be like the usual bipolar, yawn, is a given. It will be interesting if we get there, at the level of Atlanticist geopolitics block, the outcome of the midterm in the United States.🍿
f1esk
Jedi Master
Thought I'd share some news and thoughts regarding Giorgia Meloni.
While forming the new government in October, Silvio Berlusconi, whose party is in the coalition, was adamant to have his own senator Licia Ronzulli taking over a ministry, eyeing the Ministry of Health. Ronzulli, formerly a nurse before joining politics, was advocating mandatory vaccination for everyone, saying that she couldn't care less about the votes of the no-vax and calling a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". But Giorgia Meloni was steadfast and not only did not give Ronzulli the Ministry of Health but managed not to give her any position at all.
Shortly after the new government was established a couple of weeks ago, Meloni passed a decree anticipating the end of mandatory Covid vaccines for healthcare workers from 31st December to 1st November, meaning that starting today, about 4,000 unvaccinated medical staff will be reinstated. This clearly would have been hard for Giorgia Meloni to pass if Ronzulli was holding that office so kudos to her for her firmness during the government formation process. It shows that she had a clear plan and fought to achieve it.
On Ukraine, it's still early to say where she really stands IMO, but unless shown otherwise, I still lean for her statements of support for Ukraine being a way to appease NATO and avoid getting the whole establishment against her from the start. Her ability to change things on that front are rather limited at the moment. She also likely remembers what happened to Berlusconi back in 2011 during the Libyan campaign.
Being a friend of Gaddafi, Berlusconi was against using Italian military bases to carry NATO bombings into Libya but folded to pressure from NATO and the US. Perceived as almost untouchable in Italian politics at the time, he was ousted later that year when the elite played the financial card by increasing the spread between Italian and German bond yields to a point where the media portrayed it as a systemic risk for the country and pushed him out of power. He was succeed by Mario Monti, a technocrat who happened to hold prominent roles in both Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission.
While forming the new government in October, Silvio Berlusconi, whose party is in the coalition, was adamant to have his own senator Licia Ronzulli taking over a ministry, eyeing the Ministry of Health. Ronzulli, formerly a nurse before joining politics, was advocating mandatory vaccination for everyone, saying that she couldn't care less about the votes of the no-vax and calling a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". But Giorgia Meloni was steadfast and not only did not give Ronzulli the Ministry of Health but managed not to give her any position at all.
Shortly after the new government was established a couple of weeks ago, Meloni passed a decree anticipating the end of mandatory Covid vaccines for healthcare workers from 31st December to 1st November, meaning that starting today, about 4,000 unvaccinated medical staff will be reinstated. This clearly would have been hard for Giorgia Meloni to pass if Ronzulli was holding that office so kudos to her for her firmness during the government formation process. It shows that she had a clear plan and fought to achieve it.
On Ukraine, it's still early to say where she really stands IMO, but unless shown otherwise, I still lean for her statements of support for Ukraine being a way to appease NATO and avoid getting the whole establishment against her from the start. Her ability to change things on that front are rather limited at the moment. She also likely remembers what happened to Berlusconi back in 2011 during the Libyan campaign.
Being a friend of Gaddafi, Berlusconi was against using Italian military bases to carry NATO bombings into Libya but folded to pressure from NATO and the US. Perceived as almost untouchable in Italian politics at the time, he was ousted later that year when the elite played the financial card by increasing the spread between Italian and German bond yields to a point where the media portrayed it as a systemic risk for the country and pushed him out of power. He was succeed by Mario Monti, a technocrat who happened to hold prominent roles in both Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission.
fifty_five
Jedi
Yes, as expected (interesting- yawn- rinse and repeat 3d brainwashing procedure, IMO) it is a strategy of defusing internal dissent that proceeds parallel on two axes. The first, soft consolatory "in consideration of the changed epidemiological framework, the expiry of the vaccination obligation for personnel exercising the health professions, for workers employed in residential, social-welfare and social-health structures, is brought forward from 31 December to 1 November 2022 and for the staff of the structures that carry out health and social health activities ". Furthermore, "with specific regard to the category of health professions, the measure of suspension from the exercise of the profession is eliminated, in order to counter the serious shortage of health personnel registered in the area" ". The second, in the same urgent decree the introduction of a new criminal offense. the apparent triggering event is a rave held in Modena, but it is not limited to it. To fully understand the tenor, think of any unauthorized rally, or the protest with trucks in Canada. "The invasion of land or buildings for gatherings that are dangerous to order
public or public safety or public health consists of the invasion
arbitrary land or buildings of others, public or private, committed by a number of
people over fifty, for the purpose of organizing a gathering, when
it may result in a danger to public order or safety public or public health. Anyone who organizes or promotes the invasion of whichin the first paragraph is punished with the penalty of imprisonment from three to six years and with the fine from € 1,000 to € 10,000. For the mere fact of participating in the invasionthe penalty has decreased. Confiscation is always ordered pursuant to Article 240,
second paragraph, of the penal code, of the things that served or were destined to
committing the offense referred to in the first paragraph as well as those used in
the same cases to achieve the purposes of the occupation "
public or public safety or public health consists of the invasion
arbitrary land or buildings of others, public or private, committed by a number of
people over fifty, for the purpose of organizing a gathering, when
it may result in a danger to public order or safety public or public health. Anyone who organizes or promotes the invasion of whichin the first paragraph is punished with the penalty of imprisonment from three to six years and with the fine from € 1,000 to € 10,000. For the mere fact of participating in the invasionthe penalty has decreased. Confiscation is always ordered pursuant to Article 240,
second paragraph, of the penal code, of the things that served or were destined to
committing the offense referred to in the first paragraph as well as those used in
the same cases to achieve the purposes of the occupation "
Meloni set to receive Zelenski and to visit Kiev:
"Meloni invites Zelensky to Rome. And announces: “I will soon be in kyiv” Giorgia Meloni confirms her intention to go to kyiv and invites Volodymyr Zelensky to Rome. The Ukrainian President thanked for the additional help."
"Meloni invites Zelensky to Rome. And announces: “I will soon be in kyiv” Giorgia Meloni confirms her intention to go to kyiv and invites Volodymyr Zelensky to Rome. The Ukrainian President thanked for the additional help."