Gluten traps

RedFox said:
A heads up for anyone who eats out occasionally, most fries/chips (the reformed ones) are also coated with/contain wheat.
We had a meal out and I tend to order gammon steak (which always comes with chips). I tasted two and was pretty sure I could taste wheat in there.

The same goes for frozen, battered fish and I learned that one after months of imagining I was gluten-free. :(

Gimpy said:
Now I make my own oven baked sweet potato fries at home, where I'm certain they are not going to be coated with anything but extra virgin olive oil and sea salt.

Hi Gimpy, I see you mentioned that you bake your fries with extra virgin olive oil. I'm not sure what temperature you bake them with and you might be okay, but FWIW I want to mention that this type of olive oil has a lower smoke point than the others: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17952.msg216454;topicseen#msg216454. I use grapeseed oil when baking my sweet potato fries because of this. :)
 
hi everyone. in trying to look for food that were safer ti eat in a regular bases, i look for those foods containing gluten as a first step, and found this very useful list which i dont know if its been posted before.
this list contain foods and products that you wouldnt imagine has gluten in it.

Abyssinian Hard (Wheat triticum durum)
Alcohol (Spirits - Specific Types)
Amp-Isostearoyl Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Atta Flour
Barley Grass (can contain seeds)
Barley Hordeum vulgare
Barley Malt
Beer (most contain barley or wheat)
Bleached Flour
Bran
bread Flour
Brewer's Yeast
Brown Flour
Bulgur (Bulgar Wheat/Nuts)
Bulgur Wheat
Cereal Binding
Chilton
Club Wheat (Triticum aestivum subspecies compactum)
Common Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
cookie Crumbs
Cookie Dough
Cookie Dough Pieces
Couscous
Criped Rice
Dinkle (Spelt)
Disodium Wheatgermamido Peg-2 Sulfosuccinate
Durum wheat (Triticum durum)
Edible Coatings
Edible Films
Edible Starch
Einkorn (Triticum monococcum)
Emmer (Triticum dicoccon)
Enriched Bleached Flour
Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour
Enriched Flour
Farina
Farina Graham
Farro
Filler
Flour (normally this is wheat)
Fu (dried wheat gluten)
Germ
Graham Flour
Granary Flour
Groats (barley, wheat)
Hard Wheat
Heeng
Hing
Hordeum Vulgare Extract
Hydrolyzed Wheat Gluten
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Pg-Propyl Silanetriol
Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch
Hydroxypropyltrimonium Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Kamut (pasta wheat)
Kecap Manis (Soy Sauce)
Ketjap Manis (Soy Sauce)
Kluski Pasta
Maida (Indian wheat flour)
Malt
Malted Barley Flour
Malted Milk
Malt Extract
Malt Syrup
Malt Flavoring
Malt Vinegar
Macha Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Matza
Matzah
Matzo
Matzo Semolina
Meringue
Meripro 711
Mir
Nishasta
Oriental Wheat (Triticum turanicum)
Orzo Pasta
Pasta
Pearl Barley
Persian Wheat (Triticum carthlicum)
Perungayam
Poulard Wheat (Triticum turgidum)
Polish Wheat (Triticum polonicum)
Rice Malt (if barley or Koji are used)
Roux
Rusk
Rye
Seitan
Semolina
Semolina Triticum
Shot Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Small Spelt
Spirits (Specific Types)
Spelt (Triticum spelta)
Sprouted Wheat or Barley
Stearyldimoniumhydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Strong Flour
Suet in Packets
Tabbouleh
Tabouli
Teriyaki Sauce
Timopheevi Wheat (Triticum timopheevii)
Triticale X triticosecale
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Flour Lipids
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil
Udon (wheat noodles)
Unbleached Flour
Vavilovi Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Vital Wheat Gluten
Wheat, Abyssinian Hard triticum durum
Wheat amino acids
Wheat Bran Extract
Wheat, Bulgur
Wheat Durum Triticum
Wheat Germ Extract
Wheat Germ Glycerides
Wheat Germ Oil
Wheat Germamidopropyldimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Wheat Grass (can contain seeds)
Wheat Nuts
Wheat Protein
Wheat Triticum aestivum
Wheat Triticum Monococcum
Wheat (Triticum Vulgare) Bran Extract
Whole-meal Flour
Wild Einkorn (Triticum boeotictim)
Wild Emmer (Triticum dicoccoides)

foods you wouldn't espect to have gluten

* Beer
* Beverage mixes
* Bologna
* Candy (many candies are gluten-free, so read labels)
* Canned baked beans
* Cold cuts
* Packaged cereals, even corn cereals
* Commercially prepared broth
* Commercially prepared chocolate milk
* Commercially prepared soup
* Custard
* Fruit fillings
* Gravy
* Gum
* Hot dogs
* Ice cream
* Non-dairy creamer
* Potato chips
* Pudding
* Root beer
* Syrups
* Salad dressing
* Soy sauce
* Vegetables with commercially prepared sauces

ingredients with hidden gluten

* Barley
* Barley grass
* Binders
* Blue Cheese
* Bouillion
* Bran
* Brewers yeast
* Bulgur
* Cereal binding
* Chilton
* Couscous
* Durhum
* Edible starch
* Emulsifiers
* Farina
* "Fillers"
* Hydrolyzed plant protein
* Hydrolyzed vegetable protein
* Kamut
* Kasha
* Malt
* Malt flavoring
* Malt vinegar
* Matzo
* Modified food starch
* Monosodium glutimate (MSG)
* "Natural" flavor
* Rye
* Seitan
* Semolina
* Some spice mixtures
* Soy sauce
* Spelt
* Stabilizer
* Suet
* Teriyaki sauce
* Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP)
* Wheat
* Wheat grass
* Wheat protein .

but from i can remember from my first search i found that even lipstick has gluten in it... a girl allergic to gluten made the question in a forum on the matter.
 
Hi Felipe4 and thanks for posting! I see that some of the items on this list do not necessarily contain gluten, but have the potential for it. Do you mind referencing where you obtained this list? :)
 
off course i was gonna post the link, i copied it and the i copied the list and miss the link:

http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/List_of_Foods_Containing_Gluten

and yeah certanly, some are reffered to have potential gluten depending on the manufactor, and although the first list/reference i found sometime ago was more complete, this is also useful you i go to the market. and is frustrating, cause don't like to take to long in supermarkets and stores, but in searching the right items it takes a while in a regular market.
most of it, probably a 90% i'd say has something that's not healthy.

and i base my "few" shopings on the key (most harmful) ingredients acording to Mark Hyman, and oviously references on the forum:

High Fructuose Corn Syrup
Trans Fats
Soy(which is suported by Hyman)
Gluten
Mercury
Aluminium
trying to ged rid of Teflon
dairy Products
Sugars
and more resently Lectins

i went to buy some strwberries yesterday and found this huge mutated-like "fruit", almost nothing out there...
 
Scarlet said:
I use grapeseed oil when baking my sweet potato fries because of this. :)

Have you tried to ccok them with duck fat. Totally delicious.
 
Hi Gandalf, I tried to find duck fat in my local grocery store months ago when I began following the USD, but the employees had never heard of it and had no idea where I could look further for it. I have not heard of anyone ever cooking with it before, so perhaps it's not something available for people in California..? I would like to try it out after reading your comment and one of Psyche's comments on here too so thanks for the reminder, because it inspires me to continue my search!
 
Scarlet said:
Hi Gandalf, I tried to find duck fat in my local grocery store months ago when I began following the USD, but the employees had never heard of it and had no idea where I could look further for it. I have not heard of anyone ever cooking with it before, so perhaps it's not something available for people in California..? I would like to try it out after reading your comment and one of Psyche's comments on here too so thanks for the reminder, because it inspires me to continue my search!

A quick search on google gave me those links :

_http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493968

_http://www.duckfat.com/vendors.html

_http://www.markys.com/caviar/customer/duck-fat-7-oz..html
 
Thanks for the links, Gandalf! I had no idea that duck fat was something I could order online, because I thought it would certainly have to be refrigerated. Hmm, I see some on Amazon.com that I might be trying out now, sweet! Who knew? :halo:
 
Felipe4 said:
hi everyone. in trying to look for food that were safer ti eat in a regular bases, i look for those foods containing gluten as a first step, and found this very useful list which i dont know if its been posted before.
this list contain foods and products that you wouldnt imagine has gluten in it.

Thank you for the list, Felipe. It's good to keep this list handy when going shopping and reading the ingredients. Many times i read "unknown words" and that's enough to make me avoid the product. I was shocked that cold cuts contain gluten, btw. I was ready to buy some beef for blini sandwiches and somehow it occurred to me to tell the deli guy who was cutting it up for me that i am gluten intolerant. He turned around and said, with apologetic eyes, that all their cold cuts contain gluten. I was glad i asked. Now i ask about everything, just in case ;)
 
I know Whole Foods in S Cali has it, I've seen it at multiple places though it's expensive. Besides the other ones listed on the (way helpful!) link on chowhound posted above, maybe try some Kosher markets? Schmalz is popular in certain Jewish cuisines, I've seen it at a couple markets and there's plenty of these places around the LA area at least. Probably other ethnic markets too, maybe a Thai place (duck curry was oh so good back in the day...I guess it's still sort of curry minus nightshades and such in the spices)

If you're into lard I've found it in many Mexican and Latin groceries. Just be careful as certain ones have other gross ingredients added, read the label. It is very cheap compared to duck fat!
(I use homemade ghee personally though)
 
Scarlet said:
Hi Gandalf, I tried to find duck fat in my local grocery store months ago when I began following the USD, but the employees had never heard of it and had no idea where I could look further for it.

You could always go back to doing it the old fashioned way and save the fats from cooking as you go, to then use later for frying, baking etc.

When I was young, my grandmother would keep the fats that came from bacon, grilled meats, roasts etc and set them aside in a dish kept in cool place.

I started thinking about this again recently as something to start doing here. The thought coming not from the idea of being economical or even making good use of healthy fats, but from looking at the bottom of the grill pan as the fat sets and the body thinking "mmm, now that looks yummy"! I never that kind of taste before now.

I remember my parents and grandparents talking about 'bread and dripping', 'dripping' being the name given to the saved fats. They would have it as a snack and gave it to the kids, which when we heard the idea as a kids the reaction was "uugh, that sounds yucky!" Not so yucky sounding now though, its been fascinating how tastes/cravings are changing as sugars are replaced with fats.
 
Hi Gimpy, I see you mentioned that you bake your fries with extra virgin olive oil. I'm not sure what temperature you bake them with and you might be okay, but FWIW I want to mention that this type of olive oil has a lower smoke point than the others: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17952.msg216454;topicseen#msg216454. I use grapeseed oil when baking my sweet potato fries because of this.


Hi Scarlett! Yeah, I've quit eating these fries for a while. I had them once on vacation, made them for my Mom and I and did use organic grapeseed for it. Olive oil is what we have at home in the biggest quantity, and that's why it was mentioned.

Duck fat is hard to come by here, and expensive. Finding a duck is tough but not impossible. We do have one frozen, and I plan on taking the fat from it and freezing it for further yummies. Hubby is on board with it, but still wondering if it won't make his weight problem worse. He's still reading "Good Calories, Bad Calories." ;)
 
RedFox said:
A heads up for anyone who eats out occasionally, most fries/chips (the reformed ones) are also coated with/contain wheat.
We had a meal out and I tend to order gammon steak (which always comes with chips). I tasted two and was pretty sure I could taste wheat in there.

From a friend who was in the flour business, I discovered forty years ago that the 'chips/fries (the reformed ones)' are in fact made from reconstituted grains, hulls, the lot, not an ounce of potato anywhere. Then, it was a case of where else could they use the byproducts of making flour. Easy of course, because of the gluten acting as a natural glue to make the shape. Never eaten bought out 'fries' since!

Reinforcing Alana's message with meat at the deli counter, ham is often coated with breaded crumbs, and sliced. So, any meat that you have sliced at the deli counter is likely to be contaminated with gluten.

It really does mean that the only safe way to go is to make your own, buy fresh, cook/smoke/etc, and deal with it yourself - all the way through the process. :)

Yes Alada, I do remember fondly my grandparent's 'bread and dripping'. :)

Fat on the bottom of your grill pan? I gave up grilling a long time ago, other than wrapping the meat in a parcel to catch all the fat, and use directly with the meal! Pan frying is the way to go, and pour off any excess to have with the meal or make into a buckwheat gravy. :)
 
:shock: Hmmm! What about bacon? Now I'm worried! I'm even thinking about the slicer being contaminated with wheat/gluten from other cold cuts especially imported hams, salami etc. Well I may be able to live with the slight contamination of the slicer blade but if the bacon itself contains wheat/gluten? :scared:

Does anyone know if bacon ever contains wheat/gluten? The one I'm buying is very fresh (soft and pink - not very aged and dark colored) and has LOTS of fat.
 
SeekinTruth said:
Does anyone know if bacon ever contains wheat/gluten? The one I'm buying is very fresh (soft and pink - not very aged and dark colored) and has LOTS of fat.

Have never heard of such bacon - could exist, but would hardly be standard - it's simply supposed to be slices of meat. Reading the ingredients, you'll see - usually, you can find meat, salt, often smoke aroma, and often a couple of E numbers ("preservatives") thrown in, but no more than that.

Apart from purer meat, there's also plenty of other gluten-free meat stuff to be found. Some sausages have wheat in them, others use potato flour (for some reason the latter are usually the organic ones - which suits me fine) - ditto for meatballs, etc. Could be different depending on where you live, though.
 
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