Gluten traps

ScottD said:
SeekinTruth,

If you have a Whole Foods nearby check out Applegate Farms stuff. It's some of the best tasting meat I've had and they limit their ingredients. It's the only "deli" meat that I'll trust. Yes, it's expensive but definitely worth it.

My local health store also carries Applegate Farms products and they seem to be okay from what I can tell. The meats do taste great and I even buy their organic 'Sunday bacon', it's listed as gluten and casein free. If your in the states you could check out their website to check for a local store or order online if you like. Of course the bread for making sandwiches is a whole other story. I can't seem to find any breads that say they're gluten free without a huge list of ingredients in them (that I don't trust).

_http://www.applegatefarms.com/products/
 
Laura posted these two excerpts from the book Primal Body Primal Mind in Life without Bread thread, which mentions all these gluten traps, and more than what we might initially have thought:

Healing the Gluten-Ravaged Gut

Even when gluten has been removed from the diet completely, this alone is not necessarily sufficient unto itself toward restoring intestinal integrity. Less than half of the patients with celiac disease on a gluten-free diet for an average of 9.7 years have complete normalization, as shown by intestinal biopsy test results (Euerksen et al. 2010)

A systematic regimen of reducing inflammation and healing the existing damage must be implemented for long-term optimal results and true healing; this is a process that is likely to take at least one year of dedicated effort, although significant tangible benefits are typically seen much sooner---some within days of eliminating all exposure to gluten, in fact.

The daily addition of omega-3 fat (EPA), the fatty acid GLA, vitamin D, glutathione-enhancing nutrients, and botanicals such as turmeric (curcumen) can help battle inflammation, while the use of other botanicals (marshnlallow root extract, slippery elm bark extract, deglycyrrhizinated licorice extract, and aloe leaf extract can all be helpful) as well as additional substances such as L-glutamine and methylsulfonylnrethane (MSM) can help serve to support the healing of the existing damage.

Proline-rich polypeptides from bovine colostrum and whole, minimally processed, grass-fed, organic bovine colostrurn can also be of tremendous benefit in restoring heaithy gastrointestinal integrity and immune function over time. There are more than nine thousand studies showing grass-fed bovine colostrum's potentially key role in restoring gastrointestinal integrity.

Other food sensitivities must also be addressed. The good news is that other food sensitivities often diminish over rime once the aggravating factor of gluten (the granddaddy of them all) is finally out of the picture and intestinal integrity is restored. In an article in Nature Reviews Gastroenterology and Hepatology the authors wrote, "This new paradigm subverts traditional theories underlying the development of autoimmunity, which are based on molecular mimicry and/or the bystander effect. . . and suggests that the autoimmune process can be arrested if the interplay between genes and environmental triggers is prevented by re-establishing intestinal barrier function" (Fasano and Shea-Donohue 2005).

This is amazing news. The potential for healing is extraordinary once gluten is eliminated and the gut is repaired.

Also, a potent cross-reactivity to casein (the protein found in milk products) has additionally been demonstrated to be similar to an immunologic reactivity to gluten. In the journal Clinical and Experimental Immunology, the authors stated, "A mucosal inflammatory response similar to that elicited by gluten was produced by CM protein in about 50% of the patients with coeliac disease. Casein, in particular, seems to be involved in this reaction" (Kristjansson et al. 2007).

Casein is among the most common cosensitive agents with gluten, but the immune system can come to react to almost anything if gluten consumption persists.

Cross-reactivity, which is the tendency to react to substances either genetically or structurally similar to gluten or that our immune system has merely learned to associate with gluten, is an added concern for many. This can be a very real and frustrating problem. Once multiple food sensitivities take over, they can cause a very vicious cycle that only worsens with time and becomes extremely difficult to correct. Living with this can be miserable at best. Autoimmune processes-often multiple ones-can be a very common result. Identifying cross-reactive substances may be necessary to identify other guilty culprits that are stalling or thwarting your healing process.

Among the most common true potentially cross-reactive compounds are:

casein (milk protein and cheese included)
oats (including the supposedly "gluten-free" kind)
rye
barley
spelt
kamut (also known as Polish wheat, Egyptian wheat, or camel's wheat)
yeast
coffee (so sorry!)
milk chocolate (don't hit me)

Additional compounds (frequently substituted for gluten) that may cause problems and food sensitivity issues of their own include:

corn (very common food sensitivity and almost always a GMO food)
sesame
buckwheat (note that most buckwheat and soy flour, apart from being potential sensitivities in and of themselves are most commonly contaminated with gluten due to processing methods)
quinoa
sorghum
millet
tapioca
amaranth
rice (yes, rice-increasingly, believe it or not)
potato

Celiac Disease: More Common Than Ever?

A study published in the peer-reviewed journal Gastroenterology compared ten thousand available blood samples taken from individuals fifty years ago to samples taken from ten thousand people today and found that there has been a 400 percent increase in the incidence of full-blown celiac disease (Rubio-Tapia et al. 2009)!

Changes made to American strains of wheat, giving them much higher gluten content, are likely a significant part of the problem. Increased genetic susceptibility due to a variety of causes is likely another. Additional reasons for this increased susceptibility also reasonably include modern gluten-processing methods (something called deamidation in processed foods); prolonged storage of gluten-containing grains, leading to enterotoxin contamination; chronic stress issues, leading to cortisol-related breakdown of immune barriers; digestive enzyme and hydrochloric acid insufficiency; and generally poor nutritional habits due to an increasingly processed and nutrient-depleted food supply.

According to the same article, fully 30-50 percent of all people carry the gene for celiac disease (known as HLA-DQ8 or HLA-DQ2) and eight times more people with celiac disease have no gastrointestinal symptoms than do. Gluten-sensitivity genes are significantly more common (HLA-DQBl, alleles 1 and 2). Fully 99 percent of those people who have this entirely curable and potentially lethal condition are completely unaware of the dangerous vulnerability within themselves.

Although a biopsy of the small intestine is commonly used to diagnose celiac disease, the actual diagnostic criteria are so restrictive as to be inherently untrustworthy as a final determinant. gasirointestinal symptoms are, in fact, barely the tip of the iceberg. An article in the British Medical Journal stated, "The iceberg is a common model used to explain the epidemiology of celiac disease. The majority of patients have what is termed silent celiac disease, which may remain undiagnosed because the condition has no (gastrointestinal) symptoms" (Feighery 1999).

In the journal Gastroenterology, an article stated, "For every symptomatic patient with celiac disease there are 8 patients with celiac disease and no gastrointestinal symptoms" (Fasano and Catassi 2001). In fact, an article in the journal Neurology stated, "Gluten sensitivity can be primarily and at times exclusively a neurological disease, affecting not only the brain and nervous system directly, but also cognitive and psychiatric illness" (Hadjivassiliou 2001).

In the Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, an article stated, "Our finding ... implies that immune response triggered by sensitivity to gluten may find expression in organs other than the gut; and the central and peripheral nervous systems are particularly susceptible" (Hadjivassiliou et al. 1997).

In an article in Cellular and Molecular Life Sciences, the authors wrote, "Celiac Disease (CD) has also been termed Gluten Sensitive Enteropathy because the small intestine is the main target of injury; however, the clinical manifestations are extremely diverse, suggesting the disorder is in fact a multi-system disorder" (Green et al. 2005).

A review paper in The New England Journal of Medicine found that fully fifty-five diseases are known to be caused by gluten (Farrell and Kelly 2002). Among these are heart disease, cancer, nearly all autoimmune diseases, osteoporosis, irritable bowel syndrome and other gastrointestinal disorders, gallbladder disease, Hashimoto's disease (an autoimmune thyroid disorder responsible for up to 90 percent of all low-functioning thyroid issues), migraines, epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, amyotrophiC lateral sclerosis (ALS, or Lou Gehrig's disease), neuropathies (having normal EMG readings), and most other degenerative neurological disorders as well as autism, which is technically an autoimmune brain disorder.

Gluten can also cause many common psychiatric illnesses, including anxiety issues, ADD/ADHD, bipolar disorder, depression, dementia, and schizophrenia.

In my opinion, it is always safest to simply assume the presence of gluten sensitivity in these populations, or, frankly, wherever significantly compromised health is an issue. Even where avoidance of gluten may not solve the problem, one has at least removed a potentially enormous obstacle from the path toward improvement.


{Skipping technical discussion of testing for gluten sensitivity}

Cross-reactivity is a sticky conundrum that needs to be addressed whenever a gluten-free diet is insufficient to ameliorate the symptoms associated with it. Cross-reactive substances can comprise other, supposedly gluten-free grains, similar enough in molecular structure or genetics to cause reactivity in those particularly sensitive. Somewhat more mysteriously, they can also include entirely unrelated compounds that may have an immunologically associative relationship to gluten, such as casein (actually, surprisingly similar molecularly to gluten) and even coffee in some people. Coffee, in fact,... may be the single most cross-reactive substance of them all. (How many people have done things like have coffee with their toast, cereal, croissant, danish, or doughnut for years on end?)

... People often think that the symptoms to watch for when it comes to gluten issues are typically gastrointestinal, when gluten sensitivity can, in fact, profoundly impact your brain, nervous system, emotional states, endocrine functioning, neurotransmitters, immune system, bones, joints, skeletal system, and any possible aspect of your mental or physical physiological functioning. {...}

The standard blood tests for gluten sensitivity have an accuracy rate of no more than about 30 percent (with false-negatives being the most common issue).
Otherwise, elimination diets or testing for multiple markers using blood sampling are probably the next best bets.

Elimination diets can be an effective means of determining the potential for gluten sensitivity, but they must be strictly adhered to for at least six to eight months to make a genuinely clear determination. Avoidance of gluten must be no less than 100 percent from all (even hidden) sources, and not so much as even a single crumb of bread can be eaten.

Beware, too, of many medications containing hidden gluten (crazy, but true; watch out for cornstarch). Also, beware of cross contamination issues, where nongluten foods may come into contact with gluten-containing foods via cooking or preparation surfaces and utensils in restaurants or at home. (Yes, this matters.)

{People think I'm nuts when I say I do NOT want anyone even bringing that stuff in my house... but it seems I'm not so crazy after all.}

The inflammatory effects in the brain especially and throughout the body from even trace gluten exposure can reverberate for fully six months in sensitive individuals.

Any exposure of any kind (even seemingly innocuous and unintentional slipups) means you must basically start over on the elimination diet. Sorry to sound so fussy, but this is an issue that needs to be taken extremely seriously.

There are some helpful products on the market that can help curb excess inflammatory response to trace gluten exposure, but do not mistake these for being the equivalent of a gluten "morning-after pill" that can cancel out that birthday cake you wanted to indulge in.

An article in Gastroenterology stated, "During a 45 year follow up, undiagnosed celiac disease was associated with a nearly 4-fold increased risk of death. The prevalence of undiagnosed CD seems to have increased dramatically in the United States during the last 50 years" (Rubio-Tapia et al. 2009).

In an individual with either full-blown celiac disease or gluten sensitivity, the risk of death from all causes, according to the journal The Lancet, was dramatically greater: "Death was most significantly affected by diagnostic delay, pattern of presentation, and adherence to the gluten free diet. ... Non adherence to the gluten free diet, defined as eating gluten once-per-month, increased the relative risk of death 600%" (Corrao et al. 2001).

Next time you want to rationalize that one little cookie, slice of birthday cake, or piece of bread, think twice. Being "mostly gluten-free" or eating gluten containing foods "only occasionally" just doesn't cut it. There are times where the saying (or perhaps rationalization) "all things in moderation" simply does not apply.

Brain and mood disorders, migraines, osteoporosis, diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, bowel diseases, autoimmune diseases, inflammatory disorders, and cancer are rampant.
Grains are rarely suspected as the original culprit, though every one of these disorders, among many more, can potentially be traced to often insidious gluten intolerance.

Gluten sensitivity is only rarely obvious to the afflicted, and many people are even entirely surprised to learn they have this sensitivity.

Edit to add name of book which from come the quotes.
 
... and the next one:

The Nitty-Gritty of Going Gluten-Free


The gluten-containing grains most associated with celiac disease are wheat (e.g., durum, graham, semolina, kamut, triticale, and spelt) as well as rye, barley, and most oats. Although oats technically are not part of the most problematic gliadin-containing family of grains, modern methods of processing nearly always ensure gluten contamination of oat products, and the presence of actual gluten should always be assumed unless a product is labeled "IOO-percent gluten-free." The prolamin (avenin) content of oats, however, still makes them at least potentially suspect for inherent crossreactivity issues, even where they may be sold as gluten-free products. The very same can be said for many products containing corn and cornstarch. Buckwheat and soy flours are almost always contaminated with gluten due to processing and storage methods.

The good news is that the devastating symptoms of gluten sensitivity and celiac disease can often be entirely eliminated.

The treatment solution?

You must eliminate 100 percent-not just most-of the gluten from your diet, and that means not just gluten-containing dietary grains, but all hidden sources as well, which can include (but are not limited to) commercial soups, broths, processed food mixes, soy sauce, teriyaki and other sauces, corn products and cornstarch, and salad dressings.

Gluten can be listed as vegetable protein, seitan, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, modified food starch, and other names. Gluten is additionally hidden on food labels as other food starches, artificial food coloring, food stabilizers, malt extract (syrup or flavoring), dextrins, and food emulsifiers. Gluten is even an ingredient in many shampoos, cosmetics, and lipsticks (which can potentially be absorbed transdermally, which means through the skin), children's Play-Doh, medications, vitamins (unless specifically labeled "gluten-free"), and even non-self-adhesive stamps and envelopes.

Although I realize all this need for ultrastrict avoidance sounds rather tedious and inconvenient, an article in the Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery and Psychiatry stated clearly, "Even minute traces of gliadin (gluten) are capable of triggering a state of heightened immunological activity in gluten sensitive people," meaning prolonged inflammation and other symptoms (Hadjivassiliou et al. 1997).

Saying you've eliminated "most" of the gluten from your diet because you are gluten sensitive is a bit like saying you're just "a little bit pregnant." Either you are or you're not. There are no in-betweens. Avoidance must be strict and total.


I know you're thinking, "Wait just a minute, back up; did she just say 'personal-care products'? What?" It's crazy-sounding but true. You need to examine your shampoos, conditioners, and other hair-care and skin-care products for the presence of wheat protein, sometimes listed as hydrolyzed vegetable protein. Look for corn-related additives, also.
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Of the roughly 126 chemicals consumers regularly apply to their skin, 90 percent have never, ever been tested for their safety. Most people think nothing of the products they apply to their hair or skin, and the cosmetics industry readily capitalizes on this ignorance at tremendous potential cost to your health for considerable profit.

Why is this important? I mean, we're just talking about skin, right? It's not like you're drinking the stuff....

In fact, it's probably worse.

Keep in mind that your skin is your largest organ and that it is exceedingly thin (less than one-tenth of an inch in thickness) and permeable. If you were to eat or drink these products, you'd have several things come into play to help protect you from direct bloodstream exposure, such as your gut lining, hydrochloric acid, and enzymes. In a hot shower, however, with your pores open wide, there is very little between you and the direct absorption of anything you are applying to your scalp and skin right into your bloodstream, where it is all free to travel throughout your body to your brain and all your other organs.
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Many people will claim they have been adhering to a strict gluten-free diet when, in fact, they have been avoiding only the obvious sources and really haven't been paying enough attention to potentially hidden sources, including their personal-care products. They will eventually rationalize their lack of positive health results to the idea that they weren't gluten sensitive after all, and they will simply go back to eating whatever they want. This is a huge mistake! I have worked with clients who were gluten sensitive and were unable to make substantial progress until they addressed the issue of gluten in their personal-care products.

Even when adherence to a genuinely gluten-free diet doesn't seem to generate the expected turnaround in health and well-being, you have at least removed one very major hurdle to improvement. There can always be other hurdles yet to conquer. Gluten in personal-care products, medications, and even stamps and envelopes (the kind you have to lick) can be a problem. Cross-reactivity to other substances is another important possibility to consider when going gluten-free does not yield the expected improvements. ...

Gluten is, however, not the only modern substance challenging the health of the masses. Restoring health can be like peeling back the layers of an onion. It is a process. Often enough, by simply removing this one major dietary antigen, the turnaround in some people can seem nothing short of miraculous. It can also make a massive difference where seemingly
more benign issues like resistance to weight loss are concerned.

So what about gluten-free substitutes?

Seeking out gluten-free substitutes is certainly an option, as there are scores of gluten-free products of all kinds available today. It's big business for food manufacturers these days, in fact. Clearly, gluten-free shampoos and cosmetics are a good and necessary idea. Unfortunately, even though other grains, such as quinoa, corn, millet, rice, and buckwheat (or soy), do not technically contain gluten, gluten contamination in many of these foods and cross-reactivity are extremely common. They are also more a source of starch than of protein, regardless, and the majority of gluten free substitutes are highly, highly processed foods. Many are soy based as well (don't get me started on that). Just because something is gluten free does not mean it is actually healthy for you, anymore than the word organic does. Beware of the plethora of junk food masquerading as a "healthy gluten-free option" or "substitute."

Gluten intolerance and carbohydrate intolerance, in general, are far more the rule than the exception in today's world. It is logical to conclude that grain consumption of any kind, especially gluten-containing grains, just isn't worth the dietary risk, given our culture's innumerable health challenges and vulnerabilities.

Why play Russian roulette? Why add to the unnecessary glycating, fattening, and neurotransmitter-and hormone-dysregulating carbohydrate load? In my view, it's better to take processed food off the radar screen entirely-period-and to stick to the foods that don't need a label you have to read every time. Truthfully, it's for less complicated and confusing to do so.

In short, there is no one alive for whom grains of any type are essential for health, and gluten, in particular, is a health food for no one.

It further stands to reason that the more symptoms a person has physically, cognitively, or psychologically, the more primitive a diet (in other words, pre-agricultural or "primal") he or she ought to consider adopting to reclaim rightful health. The commonality of degenerative diseases does not make these diseases a normal part of aging, or even remotely inevitable.

The choice is mostly ours.
 
I just finished Primal body Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas and I'm certain the above quotes are from the book. ( I can't reference it right now as I lent it out but I just finished it and I remember distinct expressions, and specific sentences.
 
chachazoom said:
I just finished Primal body Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas and I'm certain the above quotes are from the book. ( I can't reference it right now as I lent it out but I just finished it and I remember distinct expressions, and specific sentences.

You are right, chachazoom. Laura says it in the Life without bread thread that they are quotes from that book, I should have specified it here too.
 
zlyja said:
If I understand it correctly, and please correct me if I'm wrong, trace amounts of gluten can still be of concern to those who have trouble detoxing, such as those with leaky gut. Trace amounts that get into the blood stream could still cause an immune response and thus various symptoms associated with gluten sensitivity, including acne, fatigue, etc. If these trace amounts were to accumulate, then I think that the symptoms may become increasingly worse over time, as with many of the other nasty toxins we are constantly being exposed to.

I guess you do understand it correctly, if Primal Body, Primal Mind is to be believed. Apparently tiny amounts can trigger a reaction, and then you may basically have to start the elimination diet over. The trace amounts don't have to accumulate. "The inflammatory effects ... from even trace gluten exposure can reverberate for fully six months in sensitive individuals" according to the author. Oh well.
 
Ok, So i have purchased barley flour with the expectation that it would be gluten free. I was thinking about it though, and decided to look it up, as i was a little leary of it. I am confused at why all of the gluten damning articles are basically about wheat specifically? Is there any grain that i can use, say to make bread? I have heard of buckwheat, but so far have been unable to find it in the grocery store.
 
davey72 said:
Ok, So i have purchased barley flour with the expectation that it would be gluten free. I was thinking about it though, and decided to look it up, as i was a little leary of it. I am confused at why all of the gluten damning articles are basically about wheat specifically? Is there any grain that i can use, say to make bread? I have heard of buckwheat, but so far have been unable to find it in the grocery store.
Apart from the buckwheat no, but even buckwheat doesn't make very nice bread.
The thing is, you can live perfectly well without bread. It just takes some time to break the conditioning.
 
Herr Eisenheim said:
davey72 said:
Ok, So i have purchased barley flour with the expectation that it would be gluten free. I was thinking about it though, and decided to look it up, as i was a little leary of it. I am confused at why all of the gluten damning articles are basically about wheat specifically? Is there any grain that i can use, say to make bread? I have heard of buckwheat, but so far have been unable to find it in the grocery store.
Apart from the buckwheat no, but even buckwheat doesn't make very nice bread.
The thing is, you can live perfectly well without bread. It just takes some time to break the conditioning.

Davey72, have you read Primal Body, Primal Mind yet? It has some great info on the direction the forum is trying to take as far as one's diet goes. Also, barley contains hordein, a type of gluten that can have the same effects in gluten-sensitive people as wheat, oats, corn, etc. Not to mention that cereal grains tend to be contaminated with other kinds of gluten. Also, I think PBPM mentioned that even pseudograins, such as buckwheat, quinoa, and amaranth can be cross-reactive, in that they can cause the same type of reactions (inflammation, brain fog, etc.) as the more common gluten-containing grains.

It's not a good idea to go cold-turkey with regard to cutting down on carbohydrates, though. You should read the Life Without Bread thread for more information on this.
 
Ah, I recently found out that some meatballs (processed and packaged unfortunately, as I learned later) I ate a week ago had wheat, soy, and corn in its ingredients. I've had some back tension, increased heart rate, trouble breathing deeply, and uncharasteric (internal) anger for me the past week, and I now think this oversight may be a great factor in all of that. All I'm really sure about doing is meditating, eating organic, and that way hope to detox and mitigate these effects in the next few weeks.
 
striveforselflessness said:
Ah, I recently found out that some meatballs (processed and packaged unfortunately, as I learned later) I ate a week ago had wheat, soy, and corn in its ingredients. I've had some back tension, increased heart rate, trouble breathing deeply, and uncharasteric* (internal) anger for me the past week, and I now think this oversight may be a great factor in all of that. All I'm really sure about doing is meditating, eating organic, and that way hope to detox and mitigate these effects in the next few weeks.
Wow, what a typing error. I meant "uncharacteristic," if that wasn't clear.
 
Packaged meatballs were one of the earlier things to go for me, once I started checking ingredients carefully. You have to read and re-read. Not only is it easy to miss things, but ingredients may change over time, especially when a major food processor buys out a formerly dependable brand.

The fewer packaged foods you buy, of course, the less the chance of a surprise.
 
Megan said:
Packaged meatballs were one of the earlier things to go for me, once I started checking ingredients carefully. You have to read and re-read. Not only is it easy to miss things, but ingredients may change over time, especially when a major food processor buys out a formerly dependable brand.

The fewer packaged foods you buy, of course, the less the chance of a surprise.

So the best way to go would be to not buy any pre-packaged foods. ;) Too many "surprise" ingredients in them that don't have to be listed, along with all of the other stuff that's in them.
 
I'm so mad at myself, I had to say something. I recently was out to breakfast and thought I was playing it safe ordering 2 scrambled eggs. I took one bite and knew something was wrong. There was a chalky residue on the roof of my mouth. Apparently to make the eggs fluffy they added pancake batter. Gross!
It really was a stupid mistake, now that I think about it. I remember my mother adding milk to her scrambled eggs as a kid. So I should have been on the lookout for dairy at least.
Lesson learned.
 
Chrissy said:
I'm so mad at myself, I had to say something. I recently was out to breakfast and thought I was playing it safe ordering 2 scrambled eggs. I took one bite and knew something was wrong. There was a chalky residue on the roof of my mouth. Apparently to make the eggs fluffy they added pancake batter. Gross!
It really was a stupid mistake, now that I think about it. I remember my mother adding milk to her scrambled eggs as a kid. So I should have been on the lookout for dairy at least.
Lesson learned.

When eating out, I tell the waiters that I am very allergic to gluten and dairy, and often they are very accommodating. I do it even if all I am ordering is a steak with vegetables, in case they have special sauces or cheese on their veggies. They usually also clean the grill before they cook my steak on, to make sure there are no residues of previously cooked gluten/dairy containing foods. I used to feel bad to make them go in all this trouble, but it is about my health after all, and I put a lot of effort on detoxing from all my past toxic eating habits. Also, by speaking out, we are creating awareness about these allergies (which are very common).
 
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