SOTTREADER
The Living Force
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Disregarding the time reference for now, the Easter Islanders are Polynesian, and their presence on the island seems pretty recent - much too recent for an origin that far back in time (like, 1000 years ago give or take). Hancock covers this in season 2, speculating that the island was inhabited by others prior to the Polynesians settling there. So the Easter Islanders' ancestors came from SE Asia, and maybe ultimately Sundaland (the now "sunken" land mass). But whoever originally built the moai may be a different group entirely.
msasa79
Jedi Master
For the Grand Cycle of 309ky, it's basically a certainty that there have many, if not infinitely many of them.
As for this specific time reference, I'm a bit 'confused' by it; my understanding has been that mankind 'came' here in the 3D in the Solar system, aligning ourselves with the STS branch of existence for learning purposes, at the time of the Fall, that is at the end of previous and/or beginning of this Grand Cycle. And that it was only with the destruction of the Kantek that we 'landed' here on the then planet Earth.
So, is my understanding incorrect, or were the C's refering to some potential pre-human group (as we consider humans nowadays) there, or the C's comment was one of those 'skewed' or 'testing' ones at that time that falls into the category of 20% and something of 'incorrect' or 'untrue' answers, as per their own assessment of the communications before Frank left the experiment?
We finished yesterday the second season and we quite enjoyed it. Regarding Keanu, that was quite funny actually. He does appear 3 or 4 times to basically say things like 'Yeah, myths are awesome!' and 'I totally think the same thing!'. I imagine Keanu, being a total fan, called Hancock and told him he wanted to be on his next show, so there he is.Same thoughts re: Keanu. I guess it's like an election endorsement. Keanu is a fan, and his presence will bring in viewers (and establish him as even cooler than he already is).
I have only two complaints. The first is that I thought the season was rather short. I felt that there were many sites and facts in the Americas alone that could have been covered more thoroughly, although it's true that he did cover some of that on the first season. The second is that at some point he went a bit over the top with his discussion of ayahuasca, which he seemed to be promoting, and which I felt went beyond the scope of ancient civilizations and catastrophes.
Of particular interest I found his coverage of the Mayans. I think all the facts he presents I had already heard before, but either I had forgotten or hadn't caught all their significance. Yesterday Navigator reminded me that Pierre talks on his book about seven close passages of planet Venus when it was a comet, wreaking havoc every time, before stabilizing on its current orbit. And the Mayans had this obsession with astronomy, measuring time, cyclic catastrophes, AND planet Venus in particular. All of which is consistent with ancient memories or traditions. It's as if the Mayans had that preocupation of keeping a close eye on that planet in case it wanted to go rogue again, so it makes sense.
Cassandra94
Padawan Learner
I liked the second season. I thought it was interesting that he connected one of the ancient sites with the 19 year lunar metonic cycle. I don't remember which one it was! But it's so interesting. It stood out because I remember Laura talks about this as well, I believe with Stonehenge and the Dancing Apollo that could possibly manifest the needs of the people. He does also connect shamanism with lost civilization aka Atlantis which I thought was definitely going in the right direction especially with all the knowledge we've learned from Laura and her books what a "true shaman" really was. He's definitely onto something! He does mention the sacred geometry but of course it's related to the use of ayahuasca instead of doing it the more "natural" way without substances. I still thought it was very good knowledge though! Very very interesting. Butterfly wings and chaos theory.. like the Cs say! Exciting times :)
meadow_wind
Jedi Council Member
Oh! I didn't know it was the same material he presented in his books vs this show. I understand your disappointment then. I didn't know him beforehand, so I'm the novice here
Likewise. I first came across his books 25 years ago in my local library. I enjoyed the visual aspect of both series, seeing the sites and the virtual mock-ups, and Mr Hancock himself is an engaging presenter, but the rehashing of old information made both series a bit empty. But how I feel is totally insignificant when he's reaching out to hopefully many more millions who will be turned on to a deeper, truer reading of our planet's history.I get that. I said in my post that it’s a nice introduction for the novice. Isn’t that your point also? It’s disappointing to me personally because I read all of this in his books 30 years ago. I was hoping for new information. As for reaching a wider audience, I think that’s great!
Just wanted to correct some of my own disinfo above. It seems Chan Thomas was a real person, full name Chauncey Powers Thomas. It does seem though that he took a lot of his ideas from Hapgood (and others, like Velikovsky).
Also, while the document/book was classified by the CIA in 1966, it was likely because he was at that time, working for McDonald-Douglas on anti-gravity tech and "UFOs" and at Bell Labs on missile guidance systems, and it was quickly declassified with copies available around that time. Thomas released an updated version in 1973 and there was no suppression of it.
On episode 6, Ed Barnhart is explaining the Long Count Mayan Calendar to Graham. Says that the 13 bʼakʼtun started on 3114 BC. Then Barnhart says, "Why did it start at 3114 BC? Thats one that the best minds for a century now have failed to sufficiently answer," to which Graham responds "I find that date fascinating, itself, since many ancient civilizations, if we follow the archeological record, had an extraordinary beginning around that time". After which images of the Giza Pyramids are shown, as well as from Sumer and Mohenjo-daro in Pakstan.
It is true, according to modern archeology, this is around the time when the Early Dynastic Period of Egypt starts, with the unification of the upper and lower Egypt. Also around this date we have the start of the Indus Valley Civilization which has Mohenjo-daro as a major site. There are indications of the beginning of the Minoan Civilization in Crete. Some indications of the coming of the Cuneiform writing system in Sumer as well. And also, marks the start of the Bronze Age.
But this 13 bʼakʼtun also brought some significant upheaval, Wikipedia says that in the 33rd century BC the world experienced:
There is another interesting connection: Venus, which the Maya worshipped along with other Mesoamerican civilizations, is connected to the 13 bʼakʼtun, as the 3114 BC date "could be possibly related to the birth of Venus."
Looking at the article by Pierre, "The Seven Destructive Earth Passes of Comet Venus." We find that he proposes 5,200 BP (3,200 BC) as the date of the first of the seven passes. An appearance that must have brought a temperature drop as reflected in the GISP2 ice core and in dendrochronology thanks to Baillie.
This then connects everything, the Mayan start of the 13 bʼakʼtun, the fall of civilizations as described by Pierre, in the middle of one of the coldest and dryest periods since the last ice age, and the rise of "new" and important civilizations that marked the start of the Bronze Age. Linked together to the first of the passes of Venus.
Another interesting connection, Pierre quotes Velikovsky in the same article:
And another quote by Pierre on Velikovsky:
It is then very interesting that Maya had a 52 year calendar called a “Calendar Round.”
It is true, according to modern archeology, this is around the time when the Early Dynastic Period of Egypt starts, with the unification of the upper and lower Egypt. Also around this date we have the start of the Indus Valley Civilization which has Mohenjo-daro as a major site. There are indications of the beginning of the Minoan Civilization in Crete. Some indications of the coming of the Cuneiform writing system in Sumer as well. And also, marks the start of the Bronze Age.
But this 13 bʼakʼtun also brought some significant upheaval, Wikipedia says that in the 33rd century BC the world experienced:
There is another interesting connection: Venus, which the Maya worshipped along with other Mesoamerican civilizations, is connected to the 13 bʼakʼtun, as the 3114 BC date "could be possibly related to the birth of Venus."
Looking at the article by Pierre, "The Seven Destructive Earth Passes of Comet Venus." We find that he proposes 5,200 BP (3,200 BC) as the date of the first of the seven passes. An appearance that must have brought a temperature drop as reflected in the GISP2 ice core and in dendrochronology thanks to Baillie.
This then connects everything, the Mayan start of the 13 bʼakʼtun, the fall of civilizations as described by Pierre, in the middle of one of the coldest and dryest periods since the last ice age, and the rise of "new" and important civilizations that marked the start of the Bronze Age. Linked together to the first of the passes of Venus.
Another interesting connection, Pierre quotes Velikovsky in the same article:
And another quote by Pierre on Velikovsky:
It is then very interesting that Maya had a 52 year calendar called a “Calendar Round.”
Background on Graham and Keanu:We finished yesterday the second season and we quite enjoyed it. Regarding Keanu, that was quite funny actually. He does appear 3 or 4 times to basically say things like 'Yeah, myths are awesome!' and 'I totally think the same thing!'. I imagine Keanu, being a total fan, called Hancock and told him he wanted to be on his next show, so there he is.
Spoiler: Keanu awesome status confirmed.
So, he really is "the one!" lol
It was a good series. It seemed a little toned down to me from the previous one, however.
Yeah, I was hoping for Keanu to say something insightful but it was more like, "yeah man, I think so too."
Great job, Keanu.
Yeah, he is that.
Noticed Handcock said that Keanu was working on a comic book series called BRZRKR (looked it up), which is already out and a Netflix series is supposed to accompany, and maybe that is already out. What Hancock said, though, was that it is set 80,00 years ago (or it initiated from that time), centered around a warrior. The date is interesting as it is close to Kantek:
1997
From 1995
If they (kantekkians) were in regular contact with them, and they sound as it was with various groups on that planet, really wonder why it went so much onto the negative path breaking the balance... compared to us who only are a few that are in contact with 6th density STO beings.
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