I did some research.
In one thread, the Caesar-post-Caesar chronology is mentioned, as follows:
Caesar, as we know, was a great man. Someone so illustrious and so humane that he is said to have allowed a spiritual structure to anchor itself on Earth. After his death, we find Paul, a man who is said to have established this spirituality as a religion. This makes sense, because there would be something to cultivate. Could be that Caesar brought an STO frequency to Earth through his reign.
And then things got out of hand, and the emperor (Justinian) who came after Caesar ruined everything.
Were 460 years added to the official chronology?
The years before the advent of the Plague of Justinian were marked by the worst tyranny imaginable.
The Nikka riots ca. 532 AD might illustrate the deleterious socio-political context under Justinian’s reign.
Only four years later, a cometary event ca. 536 AD and its consequences, including the Plague of Justinian almost obliterated Europe.
during the 6th century A.D., any kind of human activity beyond basic survival vanished. Furthermore, between the 7th and the 9th centuries, human activity in the Roman Empire was virtually inexistent
civilization re-emerged around 800 AD with a renewed vitality. This period of blooming cultural activity is called the Carolingian Renaissance
During this period, there was an increase of literature, writing, the arts, architecture, jurisprudence, liturgical reforms, and scriptural studies
The moral revival that marked the Carolingian Renaissance was centered on Christianity in general and on Constantine in particular
A number of authors, ..., doubt the historicity of Charlemagne and argue that he was a mythical figure modeled after historical Constantine
In other words, Constantine’s legacy was to grant supreme temporal and spiritual power to the Church, and its main proof was a forgery
this gave plenty of ‘time’ to establish a whole genealogy of Popes and Saints, dozens of which, incidentally, have been proven to be mythical.
It was only during the 16th Century – a full 1,000 years later – that the level of industrial activity prior to the fall of Rome would be once more attained
That's what brought me the above simple picture.
I recently came across the following sessions:
Session 23 August 2001
Q: (L) Now, I have a little problem with my writing. First of all, did the eruption of Thera occur in 1627 BC or thereabouts?
A: Close.
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Q: (L) ...Thera blew and forty years later, the comets came.
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Q: (L) Well, about 40 years after that there was the comet cluster, in 1588 BC, correct?
A: Yes.
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Q: (L) ... the passage of the comet cluster, between 1627 BC and 1588 BC - dramatic events which is what enabled that particular drama to take place...
A: Yes.
Greeks, we now know, suffered from a similar cataclysmic event sequence.
I was wondering if it would be wise to transpose the date differences, as for the Romans?
A bit, in another session, caught my attention:
Cassiopaean Session Transcripts Search
Q: (L) Is it so that, at a certain period, Egypt was in the north of France and also the other countries; did they ever exist as the author describes them with the names he gives them?
A: Around 2200 BC
Greeks, we are told, were skilled intellectuals. I don't remember Plato's Cave explicitly mentioning Egypt as being in northern Europe. This may be explained by the fact that censorship agents ("Greek enforcers") would have altered certain "documents".
Session 26 July 1997
Q: Why was astrology absent from the myths of ancient Greece?
A: Not absent, “Stalinized.”
Q: What does that mean?
A: Soviets removed Stalin from the history books when he fell from popularity. So, Greeks, Astrology... “Stalinized”...
Q: Why?
A: Deadly secrets would be revealed.
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Q: You once said that the Bible was written by Greek enforcers, and now you have just said that the myths were Stalinized. It also struck me that there were no ghosts or spirits in the Greek texts. These texts portray the Greeks as worshippers of the physical world. They were astonished at Pythagoras’ belief in reincarnation...
A: You have been reading altered texts.
I would first see a date that marks the re-emergence of civilization, then a date that marks that civilization would have recovered. The second phase corresponds to classical Greece:
Ancient Greece - Wikipedia
- Greek Dark Ages (1100 BC–750 BC)
- Archaic Greece (800 BC–480 BC)
- Classical Greece (500 BC–323 BC) here
- Hellenistic Greece (323 BC–31 BC)
- Roman Greece (146 BC–330 AD)
And we find various intellectuals:
- Thales - born 625-620 B.C.
- Phytagore – born 580 B.C.
- Plato – born 428 / 427 B.C.
- Aristotle – born 384 B.C.
John William Navin SULLIVAN -
“Limitations of science”
It is not until we reach the Greeks that we find science emerging as an autonomous activity. It is not until then, in fact, that we find anything that we can call the scientific spirit.
The Greeks appear to have been the first people with whom this feeling became a passion. They wanted to know—for the sake of knowing. All their predecessors, it seems, like so many of their successors, belonged to the type which asks ‘What is the use of it ?’ It really seems as if the human consciousness, with the rise of the ancient Greeks, took a genuine leap forward. An unexampled freedom of the mind was born. This was a necessary condition for science to come into the world.
John William Navin SULLIVAN -
“Limitations of science”
Thales observed that there is a cycle in nature, a cycle of air, earth and water through the bodies of plants and animals to air, earth and water again. He also observed that the food of plants and animals is moist, and was led to conclude that all things are composed of water in various stages of condensation or rarefaction.
The Greeks seem to have been impressed chiefly by the densities and forms of the various kinds of matter. Thus they classified matter into four elements which, given in order of decreasing density, are earth, water, air, fire, for they regarded fire as a rarer and more refined form of air. Since the essential difference between these elements was regarded as one of density, it was natural to take one of them as primordial and to derive the others from it
John William Navin SULLIVAN -
“Limitations of science”
In another respect, also, the Greeks were unique. They seem to have been the first people with a thorough grasp of the nature of mathematical reasoning. The land-surveying formulae of the Egyptians gave rise, in the hands of the Greeks, to a deductive geometry. This was an immensely important step forward. Mathematical reasoning, the most powerful of man’s intellectual instruments, was created.
Overwhelmed by the almost magical power of this new instrument, the Greeks thought that in mathematics they had discovered the key to all things. To the Pythagoreans, in particular, number was the principle of all things. Everything, whether physical properties or moral qualities, was manifestations of number.
This outlook has played a very large part in the development of science.
If a complete mathematical description of the world could be given it is felt that science would be complete. But is there any a priori reason to suppose that the universe must be the kind of thing that can be described mathematically?
But whatever basis of truth there may be in the Pythagorean outlook, it is certain that they greatly exaggerated the significance of mathematics. Nevertheless a modified form of this outlook, after many fruitless centuries had elapsed, contributed very powerfully towards the origin and development of the modem scientific movement.
Alfred North WHITEHEAD -
“Adventures of ideas”
Plato drew the conclusion that the key to the understanding of the natural world, and in particular of the physical elements, was the study of mathematics.
Thus with Plato and Aristotle, a new epoch commences. Science acquires the cleansing of logical and mathematical lucidity.
Alfred North WHITEHEAD -
“The concept of nature“
I am now concerned with the origin of the scientific doctrine of matter in Greek thought. In the Timaeus Plato asserts that nature is made of fire and earth with air and water as intermediate between them, so that as fire is to air so is air to water, and as air is to water so is water to earth.’ He also suggests a molecular hypothesis for these four elements.
I can provide more data, and these last excerpts are to illustrate a basic problem, present around these Greeks which would be related to the period of "stabilization of civilization".
Here, we have thinkers who produce a specific discourse: it is not perfect, and it will lead the entire way of thinking of future generations to certain structural errors.Later, these ideas will be taken up by Darwin, Galileo, Copernicus, and others.
By the way, if you look at Caesar's chart, civilization is finally stable in the 16th century:
This is precisely where we find "great thinkers" who took up the ideas of the classical Greeks.
John William Navin SULLIVAN -
“Limitations of science”
Scientific method, as we see from the work of its founders, Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, began by quite consciously and deliberately selecting and abstracting from the total elements of our experience. From the total wealth of impressions received from nature these men fastened upon some only as being suitable for scientific formulation.
It is therefore strange to observe that after the recovery phase of a civilization, due to terrible cataclysms - we find "the biased Greek models".
This is probably a coincidence.
Comparing Caesar and the Greeks suggests that there might have been a Christ before the Thera episode. We find the Egyptians there, if I'm not mistaken.
A. Whitehead and J. Sullivan explain that the classical Greeks relied too heavily on mathematics, and that this was a source of error. Of course, that's what the texts say. It's possible that the Greek enforcers changed everything.
If this weren't the case, we might observe Egyptians who were really "strong in maths" (on a spiritual level?), and then a cataclysm, and then a revival of civilization (cf "Caesar and the Carolingians"), which incorporates the old elements of success—but—tweaked, in a structure of mass STS control.
