hope?

[naturenut]

Casper-

You are asking so many great questions. Really making me consider where my hope comes from. I have a story for you.

I have a dear friend, more like a brother, whom I go to for advice, help, and grounding. I have tendencies to get really down about everything going on in the world. It becomes overwhelming and I begin to lose faith in anything and everything. I was talking to my friend about the NWO and other such related topics, as well as the prophecies of Grandfather Stalking Wolf (an Apache medicine man). I told him I didn't know what to do... go into the woods? Move somewhere remote? And that I was ultimately fearful of a young death undeserved death.

His response (paraphrased) was that his faith was based on knowing that he had a good heart, and good intentions, and even if he stumbles and falls, he can reside in the fact that he knows his heart is in the right place.

This has stuck with me some time now, and I find myself thinking about it sometimes. I cannot believe that the world is meant to be like this. I have heard too many stories, and read too many books to believe that we are meant to live in fear of the unknown and the what ifs. I have found that coming to terms with my own death is what I have to do. By accepting my own death, however or whenever it is to happen, I am free. I worry not about what will happen, could have happened, did happen. I live for the present- not the past or future. Enjoying the time that I have now.

Gratitude for what I have- and giving it consciously with every meal- is the greatest gift I have ever given myself. Gratitude allows me to hope, for I know my heart is in the right place, and I am doing what I can.

 

[casper]

In order to live in the present should first come to terms with the past, and allow himself to mistakes that someone marked for life.
Gratitude can share only with one person who deserves it, and there is less and less, because as you can see by the recent events that are happening in the world of fools there are more, people are divided because of religion, big government controlled less, all the spinning it for money, oil, and in the future I believe and because of the scarcity of drinking water.

Many questions that have no answers, it's true.
In my life I have read a lot of books, and life Experience, which I gained are invaluable.
With my own eyes I saw how man reacts in anger, desperation and fear for his life.
Adrenaline is a hormone that gives you an indescribable urge to get away from all kinds of situations, only step forward.
We pretend to animals that do not live in a pack more look only to themselves.
When the situation is somewhat calm, passion to subside, add up the damage, emotional and financial, ranges from beginning to re-new conflict to psychopaths who rule this earth.
And could we be so nice!

 

[casper]

"Where there's truth there's hope."

Laura moved closer to the truth and sabotage are the psychopaths, where is the justice?
It seems that the laws are written to meet the individuals.
Freedom of speech and writing?
The law prohibited!

 

[Alfisti]

Hope is my motivation and gives me purpose. Hope that Truth will triumph over the lies and that knowledge will triumph over ignorance.

I hope to increase my knowledge as much as possible before my time runs out and I hope to spread knowledge and leave a positive mark on those people who I have had contact with. I also hope that those without hope find some.

I expect the alternative for me would likely be existential nihilism, so if hope is for suckers, then I guess I'm perfectly at ease with being a sucker.

fwiw

 

[casper]

Hope is my motivation and gives me purpose. Hope that Truth will triumph over the lies and that knowledge will triumph over ignorance.

I hope to increase my knowledge as much as possible before my time runs out and I hope to spread knowledge and leave a positive mark on those people who I have had contact with. I also hope that those without hope find some.

I expect the alternative for me would likely be existential nihilism, so if hope is for suckers, then I guess I'm perfectly at ease with being a sucker.

fwiw

Do you recent developments gives hope that something will change for the better, give you what you have learned and still gain give hope of a better future?
If abolish networking, how do you think to share your knowledge or ask for advice dear people?
There are people who want to help each other, Laura us put it all together, did not ask for anything, except that spread knowledge.
The hope of a better and fairer future costs her nerves and sleepless nights.
Please read the first posts after sanctioning the Cassiopaean transcripts, read the first reactions of people around the world, rage, anger, sadness.
Now just imagine that complete Sott nett sanction, because it is easily possible.
Tell me your first reaction, hopes or something else?

 

[Alfisti]

Interesting points Casper.

Rage and anger would not be, indeed was not, my reaction to the news; Just the realization that this has been building in earnest for over 15 years. From what the Cs have said, there is little hope to be had for a better future, at least as things stand now.

Darker days are coming, as we know. That being said, the future is still open is it not? Is it time to give up all hope that we can make even the smallest difference, even if it's only to one other person?

I would 'hope' that ultimately the group would try to return in one way or another. From what I think I know of this group, that would be a priority; to find each other again? In the meantime I would continue to do my part to the best of my ability. By word of mouth only if necessary.

Without hope though, what would be the point in continuing at all?

For example:

Hope that one's lessons for this life have been learned.
Hope that one can, or has been, some help with other people's lessons.
Hope that humanity will ultimately overcome its own ignorance in this density or the next.
Hope that Objective Truth will persist at some level and that I'll be around in some capacity to recognize it.
Hope that ultimately STO will win out over STS or at least maintain a balance.

Hope. Don't drop it, right?

 

[casper]

Throughout history we could learn what wars bring, passed the First World War, came second, the third is on the horizon.
Lessons seem not learned.
She was thrown one atomic bomb, then another ......
In the end, if indeed the truth and knowledge transfer from mouth to mouth, because otherwise there is no opportunity.
How much nonsense (lessons) we have to repeat to understand who is leading the world to disaster, how many people should be violated?
Politicians fight wars, pushing who loses the most?
Small man.

 

[Mr. Premise]

"Where there's truth there's hope."

Laura moved closer to the truth and sabotage are the psychopaths, where is the justice?
It seems that the laws are written to meet the individuals.
Freedom of speech and writing?
The law prohibited!

It doesn't say where there's truth there's justice. Turn it around. Would there be any hope without truth. Remember the concept of non anticipation. True hope would have to be non-anticipatory. In other words shine a light on truth without expecting good outcomes or some kind of reward but just for the love of truth.

 

[casper]

"Where there's truth there's hope."

Laura moved closer to the truth and sabotage are the psychopaths, where is the justice?
It seems that the laws are written to meet the individuals.
Freedom of speech and writing?
The law prohibited!

It doesn't say where there's truth there's justice. Turn it around. Would there be any hope without truth. Remember the concept of non anticipation. True hope would have to be non-anticipatory. In other words shine a light on truth without expecting good outcomes or some kind of reward but just for the love of truth.

Turn around and tell me where is the love of truth took Laura and her family?
We are all with her, but in fact we are away, we share kilometers.

Will they ever find out the truth if there is no hope?
I do not know, but I think it is sad and tragic that seekers of truth have so many enemies for the neck.

 

[Celena Johnson]

"Martin Luther King said:
no one is hopeless enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
Elibert Hubbard:
Hope in reality is one of the greatest evils, because it prolongs man's suffering."
I think as long as we are looking for salvation without work, we will cling to hope...as long as someone can GIVE us answers, we cling to hope
Maybe hope is just something that we use to procrastinate in the work or to avoid it all together.
MLK and EH really have a point...we will keep looking outside ourselves for answers to questions because that is the sad norm. We all want things handed to us with as little effort as possible. Avoiding the work will prolong man's current state of turmoil.
The only thing worth hoping for may be time to gain knowledge...Maybe hope has more than one side depending on the perspective/knowledge an individual may have?
:)

 

[Mr. Premise]

"Martin Luther King said:
no one is hopeless enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
Elibert Hubbard:
Hope in reality is one of the greatest evils, because it prolongs man's suffering."
I think as long as we are looking for salvation without work, we will cling to hope...as long as someone can GIVE us answers, we cling to hope
Maybe hope is just something that we use to procrastinate in the work or to avoid it all together.
MLK and EH really have a point...we will keep looking outside ourselves for answers to questions because that is the sad norm. We all want things handed to us with as little effort as possible. Avoiding the work will prolong man's current state of turmoil.
The only thing worth hoping for may be time to gain knowledge...Maybe hope has more than one side depending on the perspective/knowledge an individual may have?
:)

It seems to me that the love of truth has taken Laura and her family to great places. Not always easy places but great ones. Greatness is not easy. I think many of us would say that gaining an objective view of things with the help of a network has made our lives better.

 

[mcb]

A little well-tuned hope goes a long way. The quote (above) "Conscious hope is strength" summarizes it well.

A hopelessness that comes from not knowing can vanish in a moment as experience and knowledge advance. But limiting "belief" can prevent that from ever taking place.

 

[Woodsman]

Lots of good thinking here in this thread. Everybody has really mediated on this subject.

My own take...

The word "Hope" for me rings trite, tarnished a great deal by Obama's endless sloganeering during his election campaign to become the U.S. president.

"Hope" also features in American TV fiction as a sort of spiritual talisman. It comes up more than one might think, from the likes of Star Trek's Captain Jean Luc Picard lecturing on the value of humanity, to (terrible) films like the most recent Superman. Heck, Superman explains that his big chest 'S' is an alien symbol representing the mystical stuff.

And it never fails to make me cringe; even before Obama commandeered the word. It feels very much like a manipulation of some kind, encouraging perhaps people to live in a state of wishful thinking rather than dealing with the Now around them. I've never quite been able to pin down what exactly is going on, but my internal alarm bells go off every time I hear the word used in the media.

That being said.., the word itself can hold many different definitions for people. I don't know if I'd call myself "hopeful", but that's purely because I don't like all the Hollywood/Spiritual Propaganda connections hanging on the word, but I would definitely say that I live most of my life in a positive and optimistic state.

I see the fires burning and the "hopelessness" in the world around me, but seem to have little trouble finding reasons to get up in the morning.

Now "Faith"... That's a different thing! I think that word is great! It took me some years to get beyond the religious misuse of the word, but I apparently have done.

-I have "Faith" in the butterfly effect of small actions; knowing that things could be a little (or a lot) worse if I did nothing, if I gave up. It gives me some satisfaction to know that I make it a core intention to resist and frustrate the Beast with my daily decisions. The Dark Side may crash the world, but they'll have to work for it, and I know how much they hate having to work. It's perhaps a little gleefully spiteful on my part. But mostly, I just enjoy the work of Creation. -Another definition-loaded word for me. -Essentially, participating in The Creation; knowing that it is made of Knowledge, spreading it and adding energy to it, helping Reality to BE simply by living fully and engaging, in making hard choices rather than hiding or trying to control outcomes out of fear. "Trust in the Universe and the Universe will Trust in you!"

It's like the opposite of dying, and I am happy to do my little fragment of a part in God's endless unfolding.

But am I hopeful?

Of what exactly? I already feel like I know the outcome. I have "Faith" that God is what God should be, and that everything balances in the end. That those which choose to decay and those who choose to grow will pass each other by (with some friction) and carry on their ways, one toward ultimate sleep and the other toward ultimate awareness. I can't prove it, but I know it in my bones. Faith.

-Which is not to say that I don't have my dark days as well, when things are bad and bleak and scary. But that's the price of admission, I figure; you need something to push against, to *Choose* against for lessons to progress. No adventure story would be complete without a grand villain, and boy, do we have a whopper in this reality!

 

[placematt]

-Which is not to say that I don't have my dark days as well, when things are bad and bleak and scary. But that's the price of admission, I figure; you need something to push against, to *Choose* against for lessons to progress. No adventure story would be complete without a grand villain, and boy, do we have a whopper in this reality!

Amen to that man!! a mighty villain indeed.

hope for me is treating others with kindness and helping people when they ask for help. I don't attach hope to outcomes anymore. Just how i choose to be. I am hopeful that if i hurt someone i will apologise and if someone needs my help i will do my best to help. My hope is in how i choke to live, not what happens while I live.

my 2 cents :)

 

[Celena Johnson]

"Martin Luther King said:
no one is hopeless enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
Elibert Hubbard:
Hope in reality is one of the greatest evils, because it prolongs man's suffering."
I think as long as we are looking for salvation without work, we will cling to hope...as long as someone can GIVE us answers, we cling to hope
Maybe hope is just something that we use to procrastinate in the work or to avoid it all together.
MLK and EH really have a point...we will keep looking outside ourselves for answers to questions because that is the sad norm. We all want things handed to us with as little effort as possible. Avoiding the work will prolong man's current state of turmoil.
The only thing worth hoping for may be time to gain knowledge...Maybe hope has more than one side depending on the perspective/knowledge an individual may have?
:)

It seems to me that the love of truth has taken Laura and her family to great places. Not always easy places but great ones. Greatness is not easy. I think many of us would say that gaining an objective view of things with the help of a network has made our lives better.

Deff networking has helped a lot especially with like minded individuals. Great great point, gave me a lot to reflect on Mr. Premise. Nothing is easy