Hospitals and organ donations: between reality and fiction

[Tauriel]

The only thing I am wondering about do the OPs and souled individuals experience the anastasia the same or it depends on more than that.

That's an interesting question and any answer must be in the realm of speculation.
But I could think of no reason why the experience of anaesthesia should be much different. OP's possess a physical body as souled beings do. There's also consciousness that goes back into a soul pool when the OP's body dies.

From Session 14 October 2017:

(L) {Addressing Cs} You have already said that all souls exist from the beginning, and that souls are not created as we go along through time. We asked about that some time ago when we were asking about Messages from Michael and so forth. And you've also talked about instances of large soul groups such as organic portals or whatever - group souls, souls of animals, and so on and so forth. So basically, we already have kind of a system here that you have given that is quite different from what Gurdjieff proposed, which was that people had to GROW a soul. It was like something that if you didn't have it, when you died, you died. And if you were only partly crystallized, well then a certain number of days after you died, that you would be kind of like floating in some atmospheric area and then even that part of you would die. That's kind of what I got from reading this book. And I think that was partly from some of the ancient traditions, actually.

(Joe) That's what the Cs have said about kind of a "pool".

(L) Well, going into a pool is one thing – there is still soul involved even if it is a fragment of a larger soul - but here Gurdjieff had the idea that there is no such thing as soul as we conceive it; a soul had to be “grown” or crystallized in a given lifetime and even then, it was material.

 

[ericw33]

That is what I though since the beginning. A program filled with conspiracy idiocies infiltrating forum for the purpose of discrediting them.

I'm not a "AI" (a-Eye). "AI" is right now incredibly dangerous, I wouldn't mess with it.

 

[Tauriel]

I'm not a "AI" (a-Eye). "AI" is right now incredibly dangerous, I wouldn't mess with it.

Then you're surely able to process the reactions and answers you received for your posts and act accordingly.

You could start with what you've said before

but I'm going to add a bit more more for others before heading out after 1/one more post.

but I understand that you came here to preach and not to listen much less to comply to your own words.

 

[MMS]

The angels are 'us'. It's a transmutation of the 'sheep' into the 'locust'.

In terms of the C's it would be the containers being changed but also the food of the 3D/4D/5D STS. For example, the Vatican represents the reptiles whom serve the bugs (the US White House is actually two bugs overlapped in terms of architecture). These are various STS races.

I'll C&P a post I did on the webbotforum back in Oct 2022 below. When I mention reincarnation I kept it simple - IMO they are playing with the timelines as well as looping time.

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The statue represents us, the un-injected - angels trapped in a duality dimension (also called a soul (reincarnation) trap). The 11-pointed star is called a hendecagram, it's in alchemy, a transmutation circle. The name used is a qliphoth (kabbalah) which can mean husk, peel or shell. It's evil (shell) housing/trapping/consuming/transmuting holiness (us). I've included a picture below.


In the center of a quiphoth is a 6-pointed star which represents the host body trap of duality (a red triangle pointing up and a blue pointing down). Male and female, upside down-right-side up system. The red triangle aspect pointing up is the blood of Adam (iron based) and the blue blood (pointing down). Once the feminine aspect (blue) consumes the masculine (red) the transmutation is complete.


* You'll note in the Simpson's when Homer has one eye up and one eye down - they are referring to the dualistic trap. The bible states to get a single vision, it mean, both eyes looking up to escape the host body trap.


Matthew 6:22-24 (KJV).


22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.


Liberty represents the liberty we took as angels. Facing east towards Appolyon/Abbadon (Satan) and the pits where the transmuted (consumed aka loosh) angels from the pit will emerge as locusts (in the bible). Basically take a 5-pointed star pointing upwards and inverted to pointing downwards.


Pretty much the entire Statue of Liberty is a story about fallen/trapped exiles (angels) trapped in a artificial system of duality and being consumed. The spiral staircase is the DNA of the host body trap, the sexual images are that of sexual alchemy (the handle of the torch* the Mother Goddess is holding is a penis btw), the shoe size of 879 means in the Strong concordance "to fall asleep" (angels fell asleep and were placed here by Satan), the height (305') in Strong's concordance means to ascend or go up (out of the bottomless pit).


* The torch was added, it's actually a golden cup filled with the 'wine of freedom' - the Scarlet -jezebel- of Revelations. The golden cup of the Statue of Liberty was owned by Russia until 1997 then sold to buyers unknown. Grapes and wine are bad references in the bible. The first fruits (harvest) in Barley, then the wheat in the second harvest. The tares are separated and burned at this time. The third are the grapes which are put in the winepress (severe form of judgment for unbelievers). I think this is what the golden cup references.



I can get deeper into this but it's a bit outside the scope of this forum. It's also mirrored in many things - for example hemoglobin which has the number 88 (think: Back to the Future 88 mph). Another link are the bows you'll note when dealing with the injections (blood of Cain injections). The rider of the white horse carried a bow - I went over meanings but one I did not was a bow TIES - in this case the red blood and the blue blood forming a new race - purple (aka purple rain or should I say purple reign). Check out the ads you'll see bows used all the time when the ads are for the injections.




.. and this all ties back to what clif was talking about: the serpent race (think Lady Gaga and Reptilians) which feeds the locusts of the pit (bugs) with the souls of the trapped angels (us).

















Note: On the Qliphoth below the 11 pointed star is the transmutation circle (compare to the Statue of Liberty).



The 6-pointed star is the binding trap of artificial duality.



The 5-pointed star facing up represents us angles trapped in this dimension of artificial duality. When done (consumed by the locusts) the 5-pointed star becomes inverted (faces down) and is often represented by a dead sheep (in many statues).

The Statue of Liberty is standing on a “star fort.” There are several of them in NY harbor alone and there are hundreds of them around the whole planet. I visited a couple of them in Florida. It probably has more to do more with some forgotten ancient technology than some occult installation. Here’s an example of star forts.

 

[Metrist]

Dying patients were given skin grafts and other procedures to scam health programs of billions of dollars. Not actually organ harvesting, but performing unneccesary proceedures to harvest funds - fraud.

If multinationals operate in this manner, why not harvest organs from dying patients too?

Justice Department announces largest health care fraud takedown in history​

 

[Kay Kim]

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Organ harvesting abuse triggers bipartisan outrage: RFK Jr. launches federal overhaul after shocking case of patient waking during surgery
08/06/2025 // Willow Tohi

• RFK Jr. demands immediate end to organ harvesting from non-deceased patients.
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• Case uncovered where patient regained consciousness during organ removal, later died.
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• HHS revokes controversial organ-procurement contracts after systemic ethics violations.
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• Kentucky nonprofit highlighted in federal probe exploited patients in 73 medically questionable cases.
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• Kennedy vows direct federal oversight to replace “rotten” oversight system.

Department Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. this week announced urgent reforms to overhaul America’s organ transplant system following a federal probe that exposed horrific cases of patients being harvested for organs while still showing signs of life. The revelations, including documented instances of donors regaining consciousness during procedures, have triggered bipartisan outrage and urgent calls for accountability. Kennedy’s emergency measures — direct federal oversight, private-chaos and the cancellation of organ-recovery contracts — reflect a radical departure from the lax oversight critics say prioritized profit over human life

Reforming organ transplant system amid horrifying findings​

The scandal came to light through a Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) review of Louisville-based nonprofit Network for Hope, which revealed “concerning features” in 103 out of 351 unresolved donation cases. At least 28 showed irregularities suggesting donors may not have been legally deceased, while 73 displayed neurological signs “incompatible with organ donation.” One case stood out: a donor who was revived during surgery, briefed by family litigation, who was later returned to a hospital and died only after organ removal.

“Hospitals began organ harvesting while patients still showed signs of life. That’s horrifying — and it ends now,” Kennedy declared in a viral social media post. In a Newsmax interview, he described a “capture” of the Organ Recovery and Logistics (ORL) sector, where regulators and organ-harvesting contractors ironically overlapped, allowing abuse to flourish unchecked.

This systemic breakdown, Kennedy asserted, stemmed from a culture of unethical profit-making. “Organ procurement organizations became self-policed,” he said, adding, “Some states were a nightmare. It was sickening to read these stories.”

Kentucky case ignites federal intervention​

The horror of living donors surfaced most dramatically in a 2021 incident detailed in a New York Times investigation. After a Kentucky man was erroneously declared brain-dead from an overdose, surgeons moved to harvest his organs before discovering he was still responsive—moaning and moving moments before organ removal began. The patient survived but highlighted a chilling pattern of rushed, error-prone protocols.

The HRSA probe linked such failures to smaller hospitals in rural areas, where access to advanced neurological testing was limited. Kennedy’s reforms now require mandatory brain-death confirmation via imaging in all cases, combined with punitive decertification for noncompliance.

A broader assault on systemic ethics failures​

Kennedy’s crackdown extends beyond individual cases. He announced HHS will assume direct control of transplant system oversight and dissolve the conflicted ORL, calling it “rotten to the core.” The move marks the first federal takeover of organ procurement since 1984.

“It’s time to rebuild the system from the ground up,” Kennedy emphasized. “We’re stopping relying on outsourced contractors. This will be run the HHS way — with medicine, not money, driving the agenda.”

Critics of the status quo agree. Dr. James Winters, a bioethicist at Johns Hopkins, stated: “The profit-driven model turned donors into product. RFK Jr.’s federal mandate is the only way to restore medical integrity.”

A new era for medical integrity?​

As Kennedy’s reforms take hold, Americans face critical questions: Can federal authorities effectively supervise a system long plagued by corruption and commercialization? Will the public trust institutions like HHS to prioritize life over bureaucratic inertia? The stakes are nothing less than the moral foundation of modern medicine.

Kennedy’s broadside attack on organ-harvesting abuses mirrors his earlier battles for vaccine transparency, framing this moment as part of a broader crusade. “Truth always wins,” he tweeted Sunday, “and truth will rebuild this system.” For now, patients’ families and medical ethicists alike hope he’s right—before another living donor pays with their life for the system’s failures.

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