How to change your emotional state?

Thank you for sharing this Chu and all of you contributing. I've found the concepts and idea of a system to manage emotions really helpful in navigating current challenges. Also helpful how it ties into aim and higher purpose.

I do sometimes struggle to act quickly under stress and think for too long before acting. Not dealing with issues as they arise can then negatively impact my mood. Dealing with current work issues I found refering to the tips here really useful.

The Dr Frankl book delivers a strong message and I'm also inspired to take up Yoga again.Thank you :)
 
Thank you for sharing it, Chu.

What I find helpful in situations like inner dialog about some personal petty issues/complaining is switching (or at least trying to switch) to "eagle's perspective". I try to imagine me hovering at some height above the ground and focusing on people who suffer here and there, seeing starving people, people being tortured, mistreated, abused, killed or simply the majority of people living in poverty. At this moment when you try to absorb and feel all that suffering you'll realize how really petty all your "problems" are, compared to real problems of other people, you'll get out of this emotional circle and the inner dialog stops. Well, at least for some time...
 
Thanks for this. I actually was doing the first few steps on my own. But I like the part about being a vacuum and doing for others and receiving the same in return. Also the surrounding yourself with how you want to be is interesting.

I was going to make a post about the C's quote that goes something like, "You can have only positive emotions if you want." And I wondered if that was a bad thing, like would you be ignoring the negative ones? Or is it a two sides of the same coin thing, where you see the benefit of the negative emotion and it helps you move toward the positive side. So maybe this is how you do it. Fire the neurons that are positive and towards love and being, and when the nasty stuff comes, try to see the meaning in it and move toward the positive aspect of it.
 
Thank you Chu and Windmill Knight for the articles. I've read the one Chu posted on SOTT and thought it was very good so I started implementing that in my life. Also WK's article... It's similar to some of the things I'm reading in "Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself", which I started now.

I've found this is a very good way to deal with negative emotions/thoughts and it gives the perspective one needs to understand that change can happen and we can do it. Sometimes we become believers of the idea that we are what we think and feel, and that these feelings and thinking can't change, as if we should just accept that and that's it. But what I'm coming to understand is that we can be wired in some ways that make us feel, think and act in ways which might not be satisfactory to what we want to become, and instead of feeling sorry for ourselves and constantly believing that we are our own victims, we can move towards what we would like to be, take the control room little by little and rewire our brains by learning. And I suppose that practice is what makes a master... I mean, at the beginning it can be hard to keep the frame of mind, but if we can remind ourselves of it when we are experiencing negative thoughts/emotions, we might be able to make it our "first response" with time.

3D Student said:
Thanks for this. I actually was doing the first few steps on my own. But I like the part about being a vacuum and doing for others and receiving the same in return. Also the surrounding yourself with how you want to be is interesting.

I was going to make a post about the C's quote that goes something like, "You can have only positive emotions if you want." And I wondered if that was a bad thing, like would you be ignoring the negative ones? Or is it a two sides of the same coin thing, where you see the benefit of the negative emotion and it helps you move toward the positive side. So maybe this is how you do it. Fire the neurons that are positive and towards love and being, and when the nasty stuff comes, try to see the meaning in it and move toward the positive aspect of it.

I think that you answered your question 3D Student, or at least that's what I understand too. It's not about denying the existence of negative emotions but acknowledging them does not mean acting on them either. They will be there as they are part of our reality and even important signs that can help us see that there is something going on to which we should pay attention. So maybe, we can pay attention to them without jumping into this particular pool of feelings... and find out what we can learn from them and what are our different choices of action... (OSIT)
 
Yas said:
3D Student said:
I was going to make a post about the C's quote that goes something like, "You can have only positive emotions if you want." And I wondered if that was a bad thing, like would you be ignoring the negative ones? Or is it a two sides of the same coin thing, where you see the benefit of the negative emotion and it helps you move toward the positive side. So maybe this is how you do it. Fire the neurons that are positive and towards love and being, and when the nasty stuff comes, try to see the meaning in it and move toward the positive aspect of it.

I think that you answered your question 3D Student, or at least that's what I understand too. It's not about denying the existence of negative emotions but acknowledging them does not mean acting on them either. They will be there as they are part of our reality and even important signs that can help us see that there is something going on to which we should pay attention. So maybe, we can pay attention to them without jumping into this particular pool of feelings... and find out what we can learn from them and what are our different choices of action... (OSIT)

I agree. In fact, sometimes "wallowing" in the negative for too long can be the easiest route, and it denies the other part of existence, the things we have to be grateful for, the things we CAN do, etc. So, it's not about denying one part or the other, but rather choosing to be the master of your emotions, and act on as much knowledge as possible. If you don't, then negative emotions can control you (and even be comfortable because "oh, poor me, I can't do anything...") as much as "positive" ones (with wishful thinking and denial) can.

Altair said:
What I find helpful in situations like inner dialog about some personal petty issues/complaining is switching (or at least trying to switch) to "eagle's perspective". I try to imagine me hovering at some height above the ground and focusing on people who suffer here and there, seeing starving people, people being tortured, mistreated, abused, killed or simply the majority of people living in poverty. At this moment when you try to absorb and feel all that suffering you'll realize how really petty all your "problems" are, compared to real problems of other people, you'll get out of this emotional circle and the inner dialog stops. Well, at least for some time...

Very true! Thanks for sharing that exercise. Although sometimes, the "depression" can come from watching all of that, and thinking there is nothing we can do. In that case, faith in the Universe, and non-anticipation come into play. Maybe if we were able to see the non-linear effects of what we do, what this network means, etc., but from that very same "eagle's perspective", we would see that it does have an effect we cannot see otherwise. :)
 
Chu said:
Altair said:
What I find helpful in situations like inner dialog about some personal petty issues/complaining is switching (or at least trying to switch) to "eagle's perspective". I try to imagine me hovering at some height above the ground and focusing on people who suffer here and there, seeing starving people, people being tortured, mistreated, abused, killed or simply the majority of people living in poverty. At this moment when you try to absorb and feel all that suffering you'll realize how really petty all your "problems" are, compared to real problems of other people, you'll get out of this emotional circle and the inner dialog stops. Well, at least for some time...

Very true! Thanks for sharing that exercise. Although sometimes, the "depression" can come from watching all of that, and thinking there is nothing we can do. In that case, faith in the Universe, and non-anticipation come into play. Maybe if we were able to see the non-linear effects of what we do, what this network means, etc., but from that very same "eagle's perspective", we would see that it does have an effect we cannot see otherwise. :)

Yeah thanks for sharing that, :)
What I was wondering is, could this approach fall into devalidating your own feelings? I know I've fallen into that sometimes, feeling sad and going into an "eagel's perspective" and then seeing my personal issues as nothing in comparison. IDK, maybe sometimes it's needed when it is "petty" but there's a big difference.
 
Lilyalic said:
What I was wondering is, could this approach fall into devalidating your own feelings? I know I've fallen into that sometimes, feeling sad and going into an "eagel's perspective" and then seeing my personal issues as nothing in comparison. IDK, maybe sometimes it's needed when it is "petty" but there's a big difference.

It helps to engage the prefrontal cortex (PFC) where higher cognitive functions reside. It is not that emotions get devalued, but they get put into perspective. The PFC has a big component which is emotional, it is not entirely rational.

When you are seeing from that point of view, you can regulate your "flight or fight" responses. Then the primitive emotional circuit won't drive you with its defensive responses. It is like engaging the captain of your ship who has a 360 degrees view. Just like when we do EE :)

Invictus by William Ernest Henley

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.
 
Gaby said:
Lilyalic said:
What I was wondering is, could this approach fall into devalidating your own feelings? I know I've fallen into that sometimes, feeling sad and going into an "eagel's perspective" and then seeing my personal issues as nothing in comparison. IDK, maybe sometimes it's needed when it is "petty" but there's a big difference.

It helps to engage the prefrontal cortex (PFC) where higher cognitive functions reside. It is not that emotions get devalued, but they get put into perspective. The PFC has a big component which is emotional, it is not entirely rational.

Yes, into "higher" perspective. :) I think, it also helps to expand awareness to certain extent and to see things from not so egocentric angle.
 
Thank you very much Chu for the article and also thank to the comments of the members. I was seeing, reading the article and your comments, Chu, how these emotions (of regret, of guilty, of incompetence, etc) are like black holes in our lives, in my life, all my life. To feel the victim, how easy to do nothing and how easy to believe that our paralysis is the fault of others. This said, I took conscience of all the lost of time during all my life because of these emotions that took possession of myself.

Too bad that I did not take conscience of this before. But it is never to late. One becomes tired of this self that is the eternal victim of circumstances. Not all my life I felt a victim of my emotions, negative ones. When I lived alone, was directing a community center things were different. I was active, did not have time to be a victim. But life, as you said, sometimes you can not control everything. You put yourself in situations that block your vital energy. It is not your fault and it is your fault also, but what I don't want anymore is to believe this big lie that told me all my life: you are innocent, the others are guilty. And then move, because life is here.

This forum, Iodine, gave me the opportunity to be more sincere with myself. And I am still alive! :)

It is really a pattern and it is important to see how it comes and be ready to fight it. Lately I saw that breathing and concentrating on my breath helps to " wake "me from some negative emotions that work as if they wanted to hypnotise you. So breathing and then move my body: playing some minutes with my dogs, doing the dishes or simply putting order in my books shelves. I put Bach and understand that everything is ok.

My English is poor expressing all this.



I will follow the steps of you article and go further in this , making this as a discipline. Thanks!
 
Hi Chu,

Thank you for a super comprehensive framework. In late 90s I was diagnosed with chronic depression. I was in and out of antidepressants, therapy and etc, up to one moment 2003 or 4 when my rebel side declared independence.
Since then I use DIY woodwork and metalwork even sanding and painting for therapy. It is amazing how quickly one's outlook changes when one does .... manual labor. :)

Cheers

Ina
 
Windmill knight said:
Incidentally, a friend posted this article on her FB wall today, and it seems to complement the one posted by Chu. Don't be put off by the title as I initially was; it's got some good points in there and it can be applied to more than just 'happiness' and 'complaining'.

The Science of Happiness: Why complaining is literally killing you.

by Steven Parton - Nov 1, 2015

Sometimes in life, all the experience and knowledge simmering around in that ol’ consciousness of ours combines itself in a way that suddenly causes the cerebral clockwork to click into place, and in this fluid flow of thought we find an epiphany rising to the surface.

One such point for me came in my junior year at University. It changed the way I viewed the world forever as it catapulted me out of the last of my angsty, melancholic youth and onto a path of ever-increasing bliss. Sounds like I’m verging on feeding you some new-agey, mumbo-jumbo, doesn’t it? Well, bear with me, because I assure you the point here is to add some logical evidence to the ol’ cliches, to give you what I would consider my Science of Happiness.

At the time of this personal discovery, I was pursuing a double-major in Computer Science and Psychology. Aside from these declared interest, I also had an affinity for (Eastern) Philosophy and Neuroscience. This led to semester course load comprising of two 300-level psychology courses, one 300-level philosophy course, and a graduate-level artificial intelligence course for both biology and computer science majors. This amalgamation of studies quickly tore my brain into a dozen directions, and when I put the pieces back together, I found myself resolute with rational reasons for optimism and for removing from my life the people who liked to complain.

1. “Synapses that fire together wire together.”

This was the first phrase my AI professor told the classroom, and to this day it is still one of the most profound bits of logic I hold onto in order to dictate the decisions of my life. The principle is simple: Throughout your brain there is a collection of synapses separated by empty space called the synaptic cleft. Whenever you have a thought, one synapse shoots a chemical across the cleft to another synapse, thus building a bridge over which an electric signal can cross, carrying along its charge the relevant information you’re thinking about. It’s very similar to how nerves carry electric from the sensation in your toe all the way up to your brain where it’s actually “felt”.

Here’s the kicker: Every time this electrical charge is triggered, the synapses grow closer together in order to decrease the distance the electrical charge has to cross. This is a microcosmic example of evolution, of adaptation. The brain is rewiring its own circuitry, physically changing itself, to make it easier and more likely that the proper synapses will share the chemical link and thus spark together–in essence, making it easier for the thought to trigger. Therefore, your first mystical scientific evidence: your thoughts reshape your brain, and thus are changing a physical construct of reality. Let that sink in for a moment before you continue, because that’s a seriously profound logic-bomb right there.

Your thoughts reshape your brain, and thus are changing a physical construct of reality.

Okay, pull yourself together, cause we’re not done yet.

2. Shortest Path Wins the Race.

Beyond the absolutely incredible fact that your brain is always doing this, consistently shifting and morphing with every thought, even more exciting is the fact that the synapses you’ve most strongly bonded together (by thinking about more frequently) come to represent your default personality: your intelligence, skills, aptitudes, and most easily accessible thoughts(which are more-or-less the source of your conversation skills).
Let’s dig deeper into the logic behind that. Consider you have two pairs of people throwing a ball back and forth. One pair stands ten feet apart, the other at a distance of 100 feet. One partner from each team throws their ball to their respective partners at the exact same moment with the exact same speed. The first team that catches the ball gets to dictate your personal decision and mental state of mind.
So which team will get the ball first? Basic physics of distance, time, velocity tell us that it will always be the pair standing 10 feet apart. Well this is basically how your thoughts work. Through repetition of thought, you’ve brought the pair of synapses that represent your proclivities closer and closer together, and when the moment arises for you to form a thought ( and thus throw our metaphorical ball of electric energy), the thought that wins is the one that has less distance to travel, the one that will create a bridge between synapses fastest.

3. Acceptance vs Regret, Drift vs Desire, Love Vs Fear.

In the time of my scholastic renaissance, this is where Eastern Philosophy came in and handed me a sort of Occam’s Razor of simplicity that I could use to strengthen my forming ideology.
It was simple, every time a moment came my way and brought with it a chance for reactive thought, my two choices were simple, regardless of the flavor you put on them: Love or Fear; Acceptance or Regret; Drift or Desire; Optimism or Pessimism.
And now, my friends, we have our two pairs playing catch.
Naturally, for my own well-being, I realized that all I wanted to do was move the pair of lovers closer together so they would always beat the fearful, pessimistic pair. And so I began to implement a practice into my life of loving everything that came my way, accepting it while relinquishing the need for control. The Buddhists say that the universe is suffering, and I believe this is because the universe is chaos, and thus by its very nature out of our control. When we try to force desires, we are bound to find innumerable occasions where the universe will not comply. And so I decided to stop desiring to the point of attachment. I started to practice the acceptance that Buddhists speak upon, to Drift in the Tao, to accept the natural flow with an optimistic love, to say to every moment that came my way, good or bad, “thank you for the experience and the lesson, and now bring on the next moment so I can give it the same love.” Over and over I did this, moving those synapses closer and closer together, to the point where any synapses in my brain associated with sadness, regret, pessimism, fear, desire, melancholy, depression, etc had a smaller and smaller chance of triggering before the synapses of love gave me my reaction, my thoughts, my personality. And so my default state become one of optimism and appreciation, and the illusory burdens I attached to this existence lessened.
Now, as I pointed out, nature appreciates chaos, and our brain is no different. And so it’s important that I point out that this obviously is not a fool proof practice that will completely eradicate negativity from your consciousness; sometimes emotion weighs too heavy and sometimes the pair that catches the chemical charge will be the negative one; but, like any muscle, if you exercise those loving synapses enough, you will find yourself in possession of a new innate strength that will make the world shine more beautifully far more frequently. You will also find yourself being far more happy because of better health–which I’ll get to in just a moment, but hold on, because we’ve got one more point to discuss beforehand.desktop11

4. Mirror-Neurons.

So if your mind hadn’t already exploded when you learned you could alter reality with your thoughts, you may want to get ready for it. Because guess what? It’s not just your thoughts that can alter your brain and shift those synapses; the thoughts of those around you can do it as well.
If there’s any ability that truly separates us from our primate ancestors, it’s that of imagination. It’s the root of all art and architecture, of the (fictional) stories that formed religions that now control the lives of billions—even to the point of war over which fairytale is the “right one.”
That human failing aside, imagination lets us live in the past and in the future, and by escaping the present moment we can use our memories of the past to predict what will happen in the future; ie: I know from past experience that fire burns skin, so I know inside my minds-eye that if I stick my hand into a fire I will lose my flesh. This is so instinctual we don’t even recognize it’s constantly happening with every symbol that we’re perceiving in our day-to-day moments. But it is this ability that allows us to navigate the complexity of our society. Even more exciting is the fact that this skill also works with emotions, not just situations.
The premise, again, is quite simple: When we see someone experiencing an emotion ( be it anger, sadness, happiness, etc), our brain “tries out” that same emotion to imagine what the other person is going through. And it does this by attempting to fire the same synapses in your own brain so that you can attempt to relate to the emotion you’re observing. This is basically empathy. It is how we get the mob mentality, where a calm person can suddenly find themselves picking up a pitchfork against a common enemy once they’re influenced by dozens of angry minds. It is our shared bliss at music festivals, or our solidarity in sadness during tragedies.
But it is also your night at the bar with your friends who love love love to constantly bitch, whether it’s about their job, the man, the government, or about their other so-called friend’s short-comings, or whatever little thing they can pick apart in order to lift themselves up and give themselves some holier-than-thou sense of validation when you nod your head in acquiescence, agreeing like a robot afraid of free-thought : “Totally, man. It’s bullshit.”
But it’s not bullshit. It’s life, it’s chaos, and as you continually surround yourself with this attitude, you are continually trying out this attitude by firing the synapses in your brain. And as I explained above, every time you fire these synapses, you’re reshaping your brain. This is why it is so important to spend time with people who lift you up, because your friends are moving those fearful, cynical, pessimistic synapses closer together, making your default, short-path-personality as jaded and bitter as your peers. Want to be happy? Surround yourself with happy people who rewire your brain towards love, not towards fear of being invalidated. [[EDIT 11/8/15 : I’m NOT saying don’t be there for friends who are having a hard time and need an ear or who need to work through a difficult situation. Nor am I saying you can’t be critical about the failings and injustices in the world. Positive change usually requires critical thought.]]

5. Stress will kill you.

You see, the thing about all this negativity, of regretting, of attachment to desires, of pointless complaining about impermanent things that will always continue to pass in an existence where time moves forward—the thing is: it all causes stress. When your brain is firing off these synapses of anger, you’re weakening your immune system; you’re raising your blood pressure, increasing your risk of heart disease, obesity and diabetes, and a plethora of other negative ailments–as psychologytoday points out below.



The stress hormone, cortisol, is public health enemy number one. Scientists have known for years that elevated cortisol levels: interfere with learning and memory, lower immune function and bone density, increase weight gain, blood pressure, cholesterol, heart disease… The list goes on and on.Chronic stress and elevated cortisol levels also increase risk for depression, mental illness, and lower life expectancy. This week, two separate studies were published in Science linking elevated cortisol levels as a potential trigger for mental illness and decreased resilience—especially in adolescence.Cortisol is released in response to fear or stress by the adrenal glands as part of the fight-or-flight mechanism. — psychologytoday



And if you need more evidence for the damaging effects of stress, there are innumerable more studies that show the negative impacts of pessimism, bitterness, and regret on your health. Here’s one from the MayoClinic and another from APA.

The bottom line is this:

The universe is chaotic, from unpreventable superstorms of wind and rain, to unpredictable car accidents or to the capricious whims of our peers whose personal truths even have the ability to emotionally damage or physically hurt others. And every moment holds the potential to bring you any one of these things, any shade along the gradient of spirit-soaring bliss and soul-crushing grief.

But regardless of what it brings your way, your choice is simple: Love or Fear. And yes, I understand it’s hard to find happiness on those nights when you feel like you’re all alone in the world, when a loved one passes, when you fail that test or get fired from that job; But when these moments come, you do not have to live in regret of them, you don’t have to give them constant negative attention and allow them to reshape your brain to the point that you become a bitter, jaded, cynical old curmudgeon that no longer notices that the very fact that they’re alive means they get to play blissfully in this cosmic playground where you get the godlike power of choice.

What you can do is say; “Yes, this sucks. But what’s the lesson? What can I take away from this to make me a better person? How can I take strength from this and use it to bring me closer to happiness in my next moment?” You see, a failed relationship or a bad day doesn’t have to be a pinion to your wings, it can be an updraft that showcases to you what things you like and don’t like, it can show you the red flags so that you can avoid them. If there was a personality your ex-partner had that drove you insane, then you now have the gift of knowing you don’t want to waste your time with another partner who acts the same way.

If you are mindful to the lessons of the failures, there is no reason that you can’t make the default of every day better than the one before it. Do something new everyday, learn its lesson, choose love over fear, and make every day better than the last. The more you do this, the more you will see and appreciate the beauty of this existence, and the happier you’ll be.

The point about always having a choice (love vs fear, as he puts it) regardless of how bad our circumstances are, is expanded in a different way by Viktor Frankl, author of 'Man in Search of Meaning', who was recently revisited by the Spanish Sott team to discuss some of his points in their radio show. Frankl was a psychiatrist who survived the concentration camps in Nazi Germany. A few days back I watched an interesting interview of his that can be found here:


https://youtu.be/LlC2OdnhIiQ

I just found this great thread. :flowers:

I haven't watched the Viktor Frankl video yet, but I did watch Jordan Peterson's video a couple of times in which he explains a.o. the difference between the Columbine shooter Eric Harris and the writer Solzhenitsyn who wrote The Gulag Archipelago. Non-being versus Being respectively.

Another way of dealing with our negative, dark emotions according to JP:
"the key to the prevention of the horrors of Auschwitz and the gulag in the future is the reconstruction of the individual's soul at the level of each individual and that's a terrible message because it puts the burden on you but it's an amazing message because it also means that you could be the source of the process that stops that catastrophe and malevolence from ever emerging again [...]".

I think the above also gives rise to positive emotions, that's the way I see it anyway.


https://youtu.be/Hw6rP_DjgK8
 
Thank you for sharing, I didn't know this thread's existence until today, when I needed it the most. Reading it gave me hope and courage to keep trying to fix my current situation, I'll be trying to implement those steps when my emotions are invading me and everything is more difficult.
 
Thanks, Windmill knight, for that excellent video, I just watched it. Viktor Frankl said something really profound IMO: Despair is suffering without meaning, and he gives some wonderful examples of people who despite adversity find meaning in their lives by helping others.

After Louise Hay's passing a FB friend mentioned her book you can heal your life which I am now reading for the second time.

Some points of her philosophy:
We are each responsible for all of our experiences.
Every thought we think is creating our future.
The point of power is always in the present moment.
Everyone suffers from self-hatred and guilt. [well, except psychopaths]
The bottom line for everyone is, "I'm not good enough".
It's only a thought, and a thought can be changed.
We create every so-called illness in our body. [...]
I thought it corresponded nicely to this thread. FWIW.

Hang in there, BrenXHkm, maybe you could network about this issue if you wish.
 
Great perspective Chu and a very nice article, easy to implement. I've found that sometimes we get "addicted" to moods of self pity and the first step is to just recognize what's happening then have a strategy to get out of it. It's funny but many times I have found that I am actually "enjoying" the bad state and when I recognize this I leave it with a lot of reluctance. Yet the more you recognize and take action, the easier it becomes until finally you can overcome the poor state at will.
 
Thank you Chu for posting the article. I appreciate the ideas and wisdom it offers. The concepts are easy to follow and they make perfect sense. While it may be important to understand why we have certain negative loops that manage to invade our personal realm, new ones or pesky repeaters, learning to recognize the feelings, dispel them and reach a better state of emotional being and objectivity is a win-win strategy. Thank you also for the reminder to reach beyond our ruts and dilemmas and apply the energy to a positive outcome in service to others. And, Windmill knight, thanks for the article on synapses and the ways to visualize and incorporate better outcomes. Makes good sense.
 
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