How/what would you tell your children about 4D STS?

Re: How/what would you tell your children about 4D STS consuming them?

When children are young, young enough to understand even the littlest things, parents often tell them: don't talk, take candy, or go anywhere, with strangers. Children know what it is like to get hurt by someone else, whether by a sibling in a fight, fights at day care and primary school. The parents tell them how wrong it is for them to hurt, based on how they would feel if they were hurt. So pain and danger is breached to children for their safety as early as they can understand it. They are taught the dangers of the world around them, since no matter how often a parent can try, they cannot always be near their child to keep them out of danger, whether from themselves or others.

Also, when a child is old enough to start asking why about everything, what does a parent tell them when they ask why are they eating meat, why are they eating other animals, why are they eating plants. What would a parent say? It, I think, it is difficult to tell children, despite what the socio-mind programming has taught us about our 'place' in the food chain on Earth, that we are not at the top of the food chain. We are predators and herbivores, and just like herbivores, we are prey to other predators. Why does the dog chase after the cat? Why does the cat drop off the mouse on the porch? In addition to using nursery rhymes, fairy tales, and the similar, we can also use the real world, in young enough terms, to get across the point that we too are food for something else, just as something else is food to us.

Maybe even better, most kids at some point in their young lives, start hollering because of a monster in the closet, under the bed, etc. Maybe this would be a great time to sit down with them, calming them down and explaining that yes there are monsters that exist, that there are reasons to be wary, not scared. With just acknowledging the existence of creature they already think exists, the parent can start teaching their child, giving them the knowledge about monsters, for their own protection; so that if the child sees, or feels that he/she sees, a monster they can call for their parents, they can react with their knowledge that the parents taught them to protect themselves. Knowledge is protection.
 
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I wouldn't if they are too little. They would have nightmares, and be afraid of everything etc. Is something hard to handle, or difficult to handle, bu it would be interesting to do it... I mean we're programmed with religious ideas from the beginning, ideas that affect our behavior and conception of the world, growing up with those concepts, how a child would grow with this one? if the child is like 7 or 6 and I talk about it, I won't just talk about STS but STO too, so they'll feel we are not on a world with no hope.

11 and up is ok in my opinion, whatever i'm not a parent and never be, so duh, but what if a little child wants to learn?
 
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Interestingly, regarding the age in which a child is capable of making up their own minds. In many of the pagan groups I have been a part of, children under the age of 13 were always welcome, but only children at 13 or older could begin 'training' or true participation in the group. Their reasoning was that at this age, mostly picked due to the value of 13 for pagans and witches, the child can begin to make their own decisions separate from their parent's programming and other societal programming.
 
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Monsters, Inc (2001). Its real :)
 
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My child is only 2 1/2 so I havent had any "talks" with him yet. I do think about it often though and when he wakes up grumpy or agitated I ask him if anything happened that bothered him while he was asleep. I often wonder if he has been abducted. I don't think I have?? But don't know for sure...
When we sit on our balcony and look up to the sky and my son points and asks "what's that" I ask him what he sees first and then tell him what I see. I don't want to discount that he might see something that I don't.. maybe my eyes are blind to some things.
I wonder if maybe as adults we keep telling our children what's there to the point that they might not be able to see anything else as they get older.
I remember my sister telling me when we were kids that some people had colour around them. I now realise that she could possibly see auras. She doesn't have that capability any more and I wonder if its maybe because she wasn't encouraged to keep seeing them??
I find it scary to contemplate that awful things may happen, or even be happening to my son. It both saddens and scares me and I dont ever want him to feel he can't share things with us because its not 'real'.
I am open to any possibility while my husband thinks its all 'hogwash'. My son will need to make his own choice as he grows to understand things. I can only keep an open mind and share with him what I believe to be possible.
 
Fisheye, my son is three and i relate to every single word you expressed. I hope the jump will come and he will go along with it, in fact i long ago stop thinking if i may graduate or not, but truly wish he will make it and that he is ready for it. We forget indeed that we knew what we were heading for when incarnating again, but as i parent, the force the drives me to improve the world is simply the wish that he will not find himself in a 1984 scenario like in the book or something worse.
I am amazed how strong that desire helps me keep ongoing in the times we are living.
 
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maxim.m said:
Monsters, Inc (2001). Its real :)


This ^ and i agree wholey!

Intresting thread, im very pleased i havent got children and im not faced with these problems.
 
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Sarrestia said:
Interestingly, regarding the age in which a child is capable of making up their own minds. In many of the pagan groups I have been a part of, children under the age of 13 were always welcome, but only children at 13 or older could begin 'training' or true participation in the group. Their reasoning was that at this age, mostly picked due to the value of 13 for pagans and witches, the child can begin to make their own decisions separate from their parent's programming and other societal programming.

I was taught that by this age, a child has already developed into who/what they are. Their "character", behavior and how they view themselves is now set. At this point, a parent's ability to "mold" the child is now past. The child "thinks" for themselves...
 
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Tigersoap said:
I don't know it this has already been mentionned but I think that the story little red riding hood has great potential to start learning that apparences are deiciving, it works for psychopath and the larger reality osit.

I think that's a good idea, too. That things aren't always what they look like, and that there's unknown dangers in the world.

In the comic series Bone (Jeff Smith, _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_(comics) ), there's an unseen spirit being that orchestrates a lot of what's happening. He does this especially through a psychopathic close relative of the heir to the throne. This being is named "the Lord of the Locusts".

"The Lord of the Locusts was a nightmare being without shape or form who could exist only in the spirit world." "He wanted to move on the face of this world, but to do that he must take possession of a mortal being's flesh."

The album Rose (_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_(comics) ), which is ment as a kind of precursor to the Bone series, can be read separately. It tells the story of a psychopathic, jealous female that let herself be lead by this spirit being, manipulating her relatives. A dragon is attacking people, and the psychopath want all those people killed, even her own parents and sister. The dragon is killed by the psychopaths sister, Rose, and the psychopath deteriorates into an old woman immediately, as a punishment from the spirit being for her failure. In the comic, there's also a nice dragon that gives good advice. Critical thinking is needed anyway.

It's even beautiful drawings.


In the very widespread movie The Lion King, there's also psychopathic manipulations shown (the psychopath Scar, the Kings brother). Both the way Scar is talking, and the way he manipulates the hyenas to do his "dirty jobs" while pretending to be a "good lion" himself, illustrates psychopathic behavior. It's shown in a straightforward way how someone can work through others to get what they want, through evil means. Scar even get his own brother killed to get power. It's Disney, however, I am not so fond of everything in the movie.
 
I will like to add to my post above:
In The Lion King, there's a scene where the meerkat/suricate talks about the lion as being at the top of the nutrient chain, and then laughs and laughs like it's the biggest joke ever told.
 
I really like using Star Wars as a launch pad for discussions especially with my 7-yr old boy. The dark side/light side, Annakin allowing himself to be pulled to the dark side, the force etc.... are all engaging ways to get across larger concepts. I do have one rule that I try to stick to though; I try to wait until my kids ask the questions. I figure if they're old enough to ask the question, then they're old enough to hear an age appropriate answer.
 
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melatonin said:
maxim.m said:
Monsters, Inc (2001). Its real :)


This ^ and i agree wholey!

Intresting thread, im very pleased i havent got children and im not faced with these problems.

:lol2: I agree with both. Having children is a hard task.
 
Wow, very very interesting thought-process... I don't have children personally but I will bookmark this thread.
 
VincentC said:
Wow, very very interesting thought-process... I don't have children personally but I will bookmark this thread.

Hi VincentC. :)

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I cannot express in words how grateful I am to everyone on this thread who provided with an input.

When I was a child I remember dreaming myself from time to time that some kind of creature is trying to catch me. Every time I tried to run away but with no luck - all I could do is just to run in circles around the creature with one thought in my head "Why I cannot escape, what is wrong with me or my legs". The radius of the circle constantly shortened and I did wake up. Sometimes it happened that being a child I realized that I'm becoming paralyzed while trying to run away. I mean I was too young I guess to know what really "paralyze" means but this is what I knew had been happening. I remember that the most active period of a such kind of dreams was when I was around 4-8 years of old. Then I thought that it was only a bad dream. Now I cannot deny that it couldn't had been abduction(s).

I have twins - a boy and a girl they are almost 2,5 years old. It happens that sometimes during a night one of them wakes up with a sudden yell, especially the boy. Every time it happens (sometimes a few times per night) I'm worrying that this might not be only a bad dream for him but something more... I try to calm him down saying that I'm here, I'm not going to let anyone to hurt you, you may sleep and I'll be by.

Cs gave me the hope that this can be prevented by acquiring the knowledge. The kids are obviously very young, they are just learning the language and are carefully observing what we do. Of course, the tales mentioned above is a good example how parents could explain some things to kids drawing up the parallels between tales and our life and the learning process should not be too fast. But on the other hand, if abductions are really happening in this case what one could do and what the methods of protection (or a way to learn) could be?
 

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