[Idea] A video series guide on eating healthy.

[Bo]

Thank you all for the feedback.

It's amazing how difficult and different a normal presentation in front of people is compared to a presentation on video. I was really doubting a lot on how to really open myself in front of the video.

Excellent presentation! But I think the tone of voice has to be more high or strong.

Good job.

And have fun with it a little, Bo! Try not to look at it as a presentation but as a fun, engaging conversation with a friend that is just sooo interesting that you can't help but want to share all this exciting information with him/her.

And if you need to diverge from the script a bit for it to sound more authentic and natural for you, then I think you should. I edited the scripts based upon what came natural to me when reading it out loud to make sure it flowed well.

Easier said than done, but at least you don't have an audience in front of you so you can do as many takes as you want. ;)

This is very good advice, thank you turgon, I was really doubting about presenting it in a fun way or serious way. I think I need to open myself more and try to be myself when presenting this. I will be using some creativity in my presentation skills to make it more fun.

Agreed. It has in my opinion a tad too much of a static formal approach, sort of like a priest or business presenter distancing himself from the listener (something I would struggle with if I was to do it too). How do you imagine the format for the series? (i.e upright standing speaker presentation with images on the side?). Also the sound needs to be much more present without the 'noise' of distance between the microphone.

I did film it with the new microhrone I got, but guess it's not working very well. So I did some searching on the internet and found one from amazon with good reviews. Which I will be ordering. And the format can actually be anything we want, but standing is better though, sitting would for example be more boring I think. We can just use our creativity with each episode. It doesn't have to be images on the side.

Just dropping in to say I think your presentation is almost there personally speaking. More familiarity with the text will get rid of the kind of stop and starts which is happening vocally.And of course a decent microphone set up is going to work wonders. Yres once you are more familiar you will reach those pauses and full stops no problem. It will also stop you from looking away from the camera. Good work .

Thank you all for the feedback.

 

[Renaissance]

This is very good advice, thank you turgon, I was really doubting about presenting it in a fun way or serious way. I think I need to open myself more and try to be myself when presenting this. I will be using some creativity in my presentation skills to make it more fun.

I've tried doing presentations on video before and I know they can be difficult. You've done really great! One technique that seems to be gaining in popularity is to speak fairly rapidly and then speak slower only when emphasizing a point or an emotion. Some American TV shows seem to be going this route. I think Davis Fleetwood exemplifies this style really well; here's an example:

(start at 0:34 to see his style)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHNrTqecZrc&feature=share&list=UU17knbFWwBQOSaLCiTO_5jw

I don't think speaking that fast is necessary, but you get the general idea. Personally, I think it forces people to hold their attention. I've never tried it out so I don't know if it takes some practice. I also like how he does cuts between segments. He used to include cuts from different angles and closeups too, but I don't know if he does that anymore. Some of the previous SOTT videos also did a number of cuts, creating a different shot every 3 seconds, or something like that. A presentation video where you are in it might be a bit different than one that is strictly animation though. Shooting a closer shot of yourself to the camera might also make for a better connection with the audience.

These are just some thoughts, and your natural presentation 'voice' may or may not fit with this style - just something to consider.

 

[Bo]

This is very good advice, thank you turgon, I was really doubting about presenting it in a fun way or serious way. I think I need to open myself more and try to be myself when presenting this. I will be using some creativity in my presentation skills to make it more fun.

I've tried doing presentations on video before and I know they can be difficult. You've done really great! One technique that seems to be gaining in popularity is to speak fairly rapidly and then speak slower only when emphasizing a point or an emotion. Some American TV shows seem to be going this route. I think Davis Fleetwood exemplifies this style really well; here's an example:

(start at 0:34 to see his style)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHNrTqecZrc&feature=share&list=UU17knbFWwBQOSaLCiTO_5jw

I don't think speaking that fast is necessary, but you get the general idea. Personally, I think it forces people to hold their attention. I've never tried it out so I don't know if it takes some practice. I also like how he does cuts between segments. He used to include cuts from different angles and closeups too, but I don't know if he does that anymore. Some of the previous SOTT videos also did a number of cuts, creating a different shot every 3 seconds, or something like that. A presentation video where you are in it might be a bit different than one that is strictly animation though. Shooting a closer shot of yourself to the camera might also make for a better connection with the audience.

These are just some thoughts, and your natural presentation 'voice' may or may not fit with this style - just something to consider.

Thanks shane, thats some usefull information. I think the cuts with different angles is a great idea and might actually work well. I will try that.

 

[Bo]

Just an update:

I have used shane's idea(with the cuts), and I tried to be more myself when presenting, which really worked very well that I liked it. I will post it here for feedback by wednesday.

 

[Shinzenbi]

I've not taken time yet to thoroughly read the thread but wonder if there will be a part like "the Paleo Diet and athletes". Would it be suitable ? It may interest many people.

 

[Bo]

Allright here is a new style of presenting. I took Shane's advice with the cuts, I tried also to be more myself. The polishing and effects are not final and will be added later if you guys like this way of talking.

some notes:

* I am standing more to the left on purpose so I can add effects on the right screen.
* In some shots you will see some weird rope looking object on the left, I will polish that out, so no worries about that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiU0CAhoiGE&feature=youtu.be

I've not taken time yet to thoroughly read the thread but wonder if there will be a part like "the Paleo Diet and athletes". Would it be suitable ? It may interest many people.

Sure. Will keep that in mind.

 

[Turgon]

I really like it when the camera is up-close. You seem more engaging in the video and the there is no background echo with your voice like when the camera is farther off.

Looking forward to the add-on of videos, images and articles. Also, is it possible for you to add interesting background colours (unless that's part of the effects, in which case nevermind).

BTW, have you ever seen Philip Defranco on youtube? Even though his videos talk about aimless things, his cut style when editing is pretty stellar. It might give you inspiration.

 

[Bo]

I really like it when the camera is up-close. You seem more engaging in the video and the there is no background echo with your voice like when the camera is farther off.

Looking forward to the add-on of videos, images and articles. Also, is it possible for you to add interesting background colours (unless that's part of the effects, in which case nevermind).

BTW, have you ever seen Philip Defranco on youtube? Even though his videos talk about aimless things, his cut style when editing is pretty stellar. It might give you inspiration.

Oh that's interesting!! Just watched one episode. That might work even better instead of filming myself from a distance. Thanks for that ! And yeah I can add interesting background colours. I will do one with full effects and post it here. That might give you a more fuller view of the possibilities.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am learning as I go along

 

[Bo]

the introduction(+ effects and all) is finished :D, I think I have finally found the right settting. Turgon your video link gave me some inspiration to use a nice setting. So I chose to stand in front of a tree that I have in my livingroom. I really liked it.

If you like this one, I will move on to creating episode 1 Gluten.

The sound of my voice may not be perfect, but it is a progress I am working towards on making it more cleaner and cleaner every episode.

Here is the private link to the introduction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvqcw9Ts7uc&feature=youtu.be

Edit: I noticed I made two typos at the end - ''sciene'' and ''neccesary''. Will fix that later.

 

[Cosmos]

I don't know if it is just me or my limited way of understanding what general viewers might prefer to watch, but I kind of dislike this fast cutting style and the over acting/over postulating of speech and gestures in some of those modern video presentations.

I know the idea (to do it that way) was brought up here and you then tried it that way but I just want to point out that I personally don't like it,
but I do like this video presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyl5Jfzk6e0&feature=youtu.be) of yours much more and the serious and calm way you present it. also the suit gives the whole thing a more serious touch IMO....

I don't know if the last style you tried would reach more people or not though.
maybe I'm not up to date regarding this new video style?
or maybe I just prefer calm and serious video presentations over fast and modern ways of presenting?
IMO a presentation looks a lot more professional in a calm way and might reach also a broaders pectrum of people.

maybe others can share their view?

 

[anart]

I actually think it's quite good - a little unclear in parts, but otherwise well-done!

 

[aragorn]

Well done, Bo. I don't have that much experience in doing video presentations, but based on the few times I've tried, I know that it is way more difficult than one would think.

IMO, you have good posture, clear diction and good eye contact. Also your breathing stays most of the time "low" which is a nice way of staying calm while presenting. I think I get the idea of the rapid style of presenting, I think it suits especially the younger audience.

One thing that came to mind was that you could try emphasizing some of the words, those that you find important. Another thing that you might consider is to incorporate some of your own experiences, so that the audience can better relate to what you are saying. But I don't know, maybe you want to keep it more news like and just informative.

 

[paralleloscope]

Some pop-up thoughts from my machine's likes and dislikes: The background is slightly distracting, liking the faster cut pace, sound is still too noisy and distant to be welcoming. Colour choices are not harmonious. Overall I think your doing good and seems like your having more fun with the process now, it reflects.

A thought on creative group collaborations and structures; I'm in media school and have found the most challenging aspect is the communication of common goals for a project; how to interpret it and achieve it. There are so many dynamics going on and most are of course unchecked system 1 directives in a system 2 narrative. From observing different group collaborations; Most opt for a flat or democratic structure, but usually turns out to be led by the one with the ideas and drive, either overtly or somehow covertly. Some of the most successful projects (in terms of clear and overall appealing communication) have been made by groups that have each talented member do their designated speciality/interest, without too much overlapping areas apart from the agreed upon overall direction discussion and briefing about what has been made and how that fits with the others approaches, or so it seems. Not that I see it as optimal just what I observed in class. Personally I've mainly been in slightly disorganized groups with decent product outputs, the energy though has mostly been pumped into problems of definition gaps and compromises.

The reason I mention this is because I've had problems in making out the 'rules of engagement' in most unprofessional projects, as they are driven by charity-time and organisation is lots of times just left up for imagintion or so loosely defined that it's worked out over time (to great amounts of mental sweat for a definition craving mind). And this does reflect in some of the projects here that are not directed by the elders, OSIT.

Bo, as I see it, this project is your baby (born of the networks research) untill it's given back as a finished product. You pull the pace, decisions and direction, based both on feedback and your own body of ideas. I'm not trying to sidestep Turgon's directive efforts, but trying to clarify what has been invisible to me and would of course like to corroborate it's perceptual accuracy.

I'm still up for doing some animations but seeing you are also art director here, I'll hold back on production untill you've found a form to base the series on and definite requests for needed animations are made or I can see what way you want to go and can add ideas to fit. Needed to make this clear, as there was some talk of making animated version at some point.

 

[Bo]

I don't know if it is just me or my limited way of understanding what general viewers might prefer to watch, but I kind of dislike this fast cutting style and the over acting/over postulating of speech and gestures in some of those modern video presentations.

I know the idea (to do it that way) was brought up here and you then tried it that way but I just want to point out that I personally don't like it,
but I do like this video presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyl5Jfzk6e0&feature=youtu.be) of yours much more and the serious and calm way you present it. also the suit gives the whole thing a more serious touch IMO....

well I found myself to be quite boring in a suit though, I find it more comfortable to present this way and also liked it much more. Maybe this way more younger people would like to watch? I don't know we will see.

I actually think it's quite good - a little unclear in parts, but otherwise well-done!

Thanks, sometimes I have a hard time pronouncing some words, but then I watch some other youtube videos to learn how they speak out certain words so that it can help me in making it more clear.

Well done, Bo. I don't have that much experience in doing video presentations, but based on the few times I've tried, I know that it is way more difficult than one would think.

IMO, you have good posture, clear diction and good eye contact. Also your breathing stays most of the time "low" which is a nice way of staying calm while presenting. I think I get the idea of the rapid style of presenting, I think it suits especially the younger audience.

One thing that came to mind was that you could try emphasizing some of the words, those that you find important. Another thing that you might consider is to incorporate some of your own experiences, so that the audience can better relate to what you are saying. But I don't know, maybe you want to keep it more news like and just informative.

Thanks that is a good idea, it also depends on each episode. When we get to the point were we start with the guidelines for the diet, I can talk about my own experiences and we can interview forum members who would like to talk about their experience with it also. We will see as we go along.

Some pop-up thoughts from my machine's likes and dislikes: The background is slightly distracting, liking the faster cut pace, sound is still too noisy and distant to be welcoming. Colour choices are not harmonious. Overall I think your doing good and seems like your having more fun with the process now, it reflects.

Yeah I certainly enjoy doing this, therefore wanting to invest energy in it.

A thought on creative group collaborations and structures; I'm in media school and have found the most challenging aspect is the communication of common goals for a project; how to interpret it and achieve it. There are so many dynamics going on and most are of course unchecked system 1 directives in a system 2 narrative. From observing different group collaborations; Most opt for a flat or democratic structure, but usually turns out to be led by the one with the ideas and drive, either overtly or somehow covertly. Some of the most successful projects (in terms of clear and overall appealing communication) have been made by groups that have each talented member do their designated speciality/interest, without too much overlapping areas apart from the agreed upon overall direction discussion and briefing about what has been made and how that fits with the others approaches, or so it seems. Not that I see it as optimal just what I observed in class. Personally I've mainly been in slightly disorganized groups with decent product outputs, the energy though has mostly been pumped into problems of definition gaps and compromises.

That has been my general impression as well.

The reason I mention this is because I've had problems in making out the 'rules of engagement' in most unprofessional projects, as they are driven by charity-time and organisation is lots of times just left up for imagintion or so loosely defined that it's worked out over time (to great amounts of mental sweat for a definition craving mind). And this does reflect in some of the projects here that are not directed by the elders, OSIT.

Bo, as I see it, this project is your baby (born of the networks research) untill it's given back as a finished product. You pull the pace, decisions and direction, based both on feedback and your own body of ideas. I'm not trying to sidestep Turgon's directive efforts, but trying to clarify what has been invisible to me and would of course like to corroborate it's perceptual accuracy.

I'm still up for doing some animations but seeing you are also art director here, I'll hold back on production untill you've found a form to base the series on and definite requests for needed animations are made or I can see what way you want to go and can add ideas to fit. Needed to make this clear, as there was some talk of making animated version at some point.

Thanks for explaining Parallel. Offcourse not every episode will be the same and animations might come in play, but I will let you know.

 

[Turgon]

Some of the most successful projects (in terms of clear and overall appealing communication) have been made by groups that have each talented member do their designated speciality/interest, without too much overlapping areas apart from the agreed upon overall direction discussion and briefing about what has been made and how that fits with the others approaches, or so it seems. Not that I see it as optimal just what I observed in class. Personally I've mainly been in slightly disorganized groups with decent product outputs, the energy though has mostly been pumped into problems of definition gaps and compromises.

The reason I mention this is because I've had problems in making out the 'rules of engagement' in most unprofessional projects, as they are driven by charity-time and organisation is lots of times just left up for imagintion or so loosely defined that it's worked out over time (to great amounts of mental sweat for a definition craving mind). And this does reflect in some of the projects here that are not directed by the elders, OSIT.

Bo, as I see it, this project is your baby (born of the networks research) untill it's given back as a finished product. You pull the pace, decisions and direction, based both on feedback and your own body of ideas. I'm not trying to sidestep Turgon's directive efforts, but trying to clarify what has been invisible to me and would of course like to corroborate it's perceptual accuracy.

Having experience collaborating on a lot of musical projects, I've found that if there is an initial, strong idea or direction laid out by the individual who's baby it is, that the other's play supporting roles and help in any way possible and leave it at that. Sort of like extension's of the person. However, I've also found that sometimes the initial idea can sometimes become more than originally thought when it's opened up to the ideas and critiques of the other members and becomes everyone's baby (when ego's are involved that can really slow down or halt the process).

I've offered some ideas based on what I think this project is, a series that explains some serious issues with food and dietary guidelines that are hurting and killing people, but being put in a such a way to make it easy to understand, fun and especially not overwhelming to the average person and even teenagers and young children.

In that way, I do fill in a few blanks with my own likes and dislikes as to what I would like to see in the videos but trying to base that on 'if I didn't know anything about the danger's of my diet but learning about it needs to be entertaining' what would keep me engaged?' So I offer some directive in that respect. Ultimately, the call is Bo's as to what he wants to do with it.