Some quotes from recent years from people at the forefront of the latest push for disclosure, showing that they seem to know that whatever is behind "the phenomenon" is very dark in nature.
Backgrounds: Coulthart is probably the biggest mainstream journalist to get into the topic in recent years. He developed several sources for his book "In Plain Sight", and was the first to interview Dave Grusch for NewsNation. Knapp needs no introduction, having been the guy to break the Lazar story. He was the first journalist approached by Grusch a couple years ago. Nolan was the subject of Pasulka's book American Cosmic, and is the creator of the SOL Foundation (along with Grusch and numerous other academics who are taking the subject very seriously and pushing for disclosure). Davis is a longtime NIDS guy, wrote that paper with Vallee, and the guy behind the "Wilson-Davis" notes. And of course, Tom DeLonge is the Blink 182 guy without whom none of this would've happened.
In response to a question about “alleged injuries or deaths at the hands of UFOs and their occupants,” and whether these were accidental/incidental or intentional, journalist Ross Coulthart
responded (2023): “I’m sorry to upset anybody out there, but ... no, I’m ... And I remember this moment very clearly in my conversation with David Grusch, and also with other people. No, I’m talking here about malevolence. I’m talking here about deliberately targeted attacks by, you know, alleged non-human intelligences that weren’t accidental.
They were deliberate acts of murder, killing, and mutilation.”
On the Joe Rogan Experience (2023), journalist
George Knapp said: “What could be so terrible that they can’t tell us about it? Let’s say, these aliens, wherever they’re from, made us, that we’re a genetic experiment. That they created our religions, our religious figures.
That we are an agricultural product, that somehow they harvest us.”
Dr. Garry Nolan (2022): “Maybe there’s something about them that’s really scary...to know that we are somebody else’s property. Or, heaven help, maybe we’re farmed for something? That would be awful, that would be icky. I mean, it isn’t as if we don't farm things.
Just to know you’re not the top of the food chain, might not be a pleasant thing.”
Dr. Diana Pasulka (2023): “I didn’t come into the study of the field with a preconceived notion of whether extraterrestrials were good or bad. I didn’t believe, so the interpretations didn’t matter to me. As I went through the years interviewing and working with scientists who study this topic,
I came away very disturbed, as there seems to be a lot within these experiences that one would call unsavory. And worse.”
Dr. Eric Davis (2019): “
UFOs have not been benevolent. It’s all been just hide and seek, hide and seek. ‘We’ll use stealth as much as possible so that humans don’t see us in the environment. And then when we want to expose ourselves, we expose ourselves, do our little fun games and then take off.’ They may be testing our technology.”
David Grusch (2023): “We also have ‘biologics,’ meaning bodies, whose characteristics Grusch isn’t free to specify though he hints that these come in different shapes and sizes. Finally, he learned that
these beings may not be friendly. ‘Indifferent to us at best,’ he says. He also suggests they belong to groups or species which may, in some cases, dislike each other.”
Tom DeLonge (2017): “Are people really ready to understand and admit to themselves that we are not completely in control, like we think we are? When you find out what’s really been going on for thousands of years and you realize
‘Holy cow, someone owns us!’ and there might actually be more than one and they don't like each other, and we might be the victims of a proxy war... It's a big deal! That's why we’re taking the time to roll this out over several years.”
Tucker Carlson (2023): “If you talk to people who have actual knowledge of it, that they gathered themselves, there are parts of that story that … are really, really, really dark, and so dark that I haven’t told my wife about it. … Part of [why it isn’t frontpage news] is that the public can’t deal with it. It’s too far out. The implications are too profound. Because I’ve heard things that I’m just like, ‘Oh man, I don’t even really want to know that.’ … The justification [to not disclose] one often hears is … because it would scare people … but I do think there’s a sense in which that’s not totally crazy. Like there is some stuff, if it’s true and I’m kind of thinking it may be true, that’s so radical that, as we both said, we don’t want to tell the people we love most about it because, why would you disturb someone like that. So I kind of get that, I hate to admit it.”