Imminent Alien Disclosure?

This made me think that now would maybe be a good time to re-read those books by John Keel. It's years since I read them, and I think I'll have another look! Keel had a sobering perspective on the 'tricksters' and did not hold them in 'great esteem'. Plus, he always applied humor to the rather grim topics he covered.

It would be a good idea to reread all of the historical information. However, if that's too much effort, and if you want a 'foundational' truth about "aliens" and this entire process of "disclosure" and what the nature of it is, you can simply keep this section from the 2nd Cs session in July 1994 in mind.

Q: [Unknown question.]

A: Bits childrens organs removed while wide awake - kidneys crushed - then next feet - next jaw examined on table - tongues cut off - bones stress tested - pressure placed on heart muscle until burst.

Q:
Why are you saying these awful things?!

A: Must know what consortium is doing.

Q: What children are they doing this to?

A: Done mostly to Indian children.

Anyone who would like to try to put ANY kind of positive spin on the 'beings' that do this, or suggest that they are in any way inclined to be positively truthful with humans about who and what they are, please go ahead.
 
Pretty much. More to the point, this is why I say that any and all disclosure will be lies and manipulation. Any 'down-stream' details that could be said to be "true" like "ancient humans" etc. will also functionally be lies because they will, by definition, be attempting to obfuscate the upstream truth.

It's like a psychopath telling people of the details of the good deeds he did. He actually did a few "good deeds", but they were done to create a smokescreen to hide his psychopathy and should in no way be taken as evidence that he is not a psychopath. In fact, they can be taken as precisely the opposite. And telling others of those 'good deeds' is an also an attempt to hide the truth of his foundational psychopathy.

When a person's basic nature is evil, marshaling technically truthful statements to hide that basic nature, turns those technically truthful statements into, at best, manipulations in service to a lie.
And in the case of 4D STS horde, the C's have said explicitly (paraphrasing) that they are known for their stark accuracy in their 'leaked' statements and predictions if that suits their plans. FWIW.
 
That sounds like some of these big organised festivals that people go to celebrate art, spirituality, unity etc. I’m guessing they’re held all over the world. Some I know of here (but never had any interesting in going to, getting high and hugging a heap of strangers) are Rainbow Serpent, Dragon Dreaming, Rabbit Eats Lettuce… notice a trend with those names?

Yeah there was one in Northern Canada literally called Astral Harvest.
In the book DMT : the Spirit Molecule, there are plenty of accounts that mirror abduction phenomena - reptoid rape, people feeling themselves being reprogrammed or rewired by machines, and different types of insects, mantids or spiders. This snippet sort of mirrors Barber's intense emotions of love/holiness/surrender.

When I was first going under there were these insect creatures all around me. They were clearly trying to break through. I was fighting letting go of who I am or was. The more I fought, the more demonic they became, probing into my psyche and being. I finally started letting go of parts of myself, as I could no longer keep so much of me together. As I did, I still clung to the idea that all was God, and that God was love, and I was giving myself up to God and Gods love because I was certain I was dying. As I accepted my death and dissolution into Gods love, the insectoids began to feed on my heart, devouring the feelings of love and surrender.

I see it as the a sign of the times. No need to beat people over the head with a stick (Orwell) when you can manipulate them through desire (Huxley). We're seeing that process in a lot of different social fields, and also with these festivals. No need to forcibly inject people with CIA-grade LSD against their will anymore. Life these days is suuuper boring, man, so now people go to those gatherings, take a dozen different substances at once, blast themselves wide open, get fed upon, then feel good about being fed upon, get addicted to being fed upon, and go back year after year in a sort of dark religious pilgrimage of desire. And they call it 'letting my Soul be free'.
 
Yeah there was one in Northern Canada literally called Astral Harvest.
In the book DMT : the Spirit Molecule, there are plenty of accounts that mirror abduction phenomena - reptoid rape, people feeling themselves being reprogrammed or rewired by machines, and different types of insects, mantids or spiders. This snippet sort of mirrors Barber's intense emotions of love/holiness/surrender.



I see it as the a sign of the times. No need to beat people over the head with a stick (Orwell) when you can manipulate them through desire (Huxley). We're seeing that process in a lot of different social fields, and also with these festivals. No need to forcibly inject people with CIA-grade LSD against their will anymore. Life these days is suuuper boring, man, so now people go to those gatherings, take a dozen different substances at once, blast themselves wide open, get fed upon, then feel good about being fed upon, get addicted to being fed upon, and go back year after year in a sort of dark religious pilgrimage of desire. And they call it 'letting my Soul be free'.
Astral Harvest :lol2:

That’s get’s me thinking that when/if the beautiful blond/e nordics show up with their offerings how easily people with be manipulated by their desires. There’s a program for everyone right? Sick people want to be healed, grieving people want to see their loved ones, fat ugly people want to be skinny and hot, I want a house, I want to be rich, I want to be smart, play 27 instruments like Prince, gimme cars, love, 1 million subscribers… it’s all on offer, whatever you want, all you have to do is say ‘yes’ … oh boy!
 
It's amazing and sad to see the contortions a human mind can go through to soften the trauma of such an encounter. Right after this he describes how the Mantid started ripping flesh off his face (he thinks this was a "false, fuzzy" memory and didn't actually happen) as a demonstration:

Geez... Talk about denial, selection and substitution of data...

I see it as the a sign of the times. No need to beat people over the head with a stick (Orwell) when you can manipulate them through desire (Huxley). We're seeing that process in a lot of different social fields, and also with these festivals. No need to forcibly inject people with CIA-grade LSD against their will anymore. Life these days is suuuper boring, man, so now people go to those gatherings, take a dozen different substances at once, blast themselves wide open, get fed upon, then feel good about being fed upon, get addicted to being fed upon, and go back year after year in a sort of dark religious pilgrimage of desire. And they call it 'letting my Soul be free'.

That’s get’s me thinking that when/if the beautiful blond/e nordics show up with their offerings how easily people with be manipulated by their desires. There’s a program for everyone right? Sick people want to be healed, grieving people want to see their loved ones, fat ugly people want to be skinny and hot, I want a house, I want to be rich, I want to be smart, play 27 instruments like Prince, gimme cars, love, 1 million subscribers… it’s all on offer, whatever you want, all you have to do is say ‘yes’ … oh boy!

Yes to both. But I would add that it's not just pleasure seeking and desire. There is also the fear factor, as we saw with Covid. So, part of the revelations might be that they do do evil stuff, "but for our own good", like in the quotes @Approaching Infinity shared. Like a sadistic parent, actually. And again with Covid, it didn't take much to achieve compliance. With something like this, people would already tend to want to build narratives because it's too distressing and it changes the view of reality so much. So I don't imagine it will be difficult either.

And a third factor would, of course, be just general immaturity/the need for an authority figure. In this sense, people will be well primed. After being so fed up with their governments and their corruption, many will probably be happy to have other "leaders" to look up to, in the hopes of living happily even if temporarily, they need to give up their free will.

But we'll see how it all plays out! Probably nothing like what we imagine right now.
 
Anyone who would like to try to put ANY kind of positive spin on the 'beings' that do this, or suggest that they are in any way inclined to be positively truthful with humans about who and what they are, please go ahead.
I followed my own recommendation (LOL), and started yesterday reading John Keel's 'Flying Saucers To The Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings'. I opened it up on my Kindle and it displayed the page I had reached some 5-6 years ago. The first parapgraphs on that page and the page after that included the following:

A large part of the UFO phenomenon is deliberately deceptive.
– Keel (p. 139). Kindle Edition.

[Spy agency] “psychological warfare” techniques are often employed by the UFOS. Diversionary landings, and other seemingly “important” incidents, frequently are staged a few miles from an area where a truly significant UFO activity is taking place. The diversion wins all of our attention and publicity, and the important activity goes unnoticed.
– Keel (p. 140). Kindle Edition.
The latter makes me think of the recent period with 'drones' in the US: was this staged by the NHI:s in order to distract us from something else they were doing elsewhere?
 
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I followed my own recommendation (LOL), and started yesterday reading John Keel's 'Flying Saucers To The Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings'. I opened it up on my Kindle and it displayed the page I had reached some 5-6 years ago. The first parapgraphs on that page and the following included the following:




The latter makes me think of the recent period with 'drones' in the US: was this staged by the NHI:s in order to distract us from something else they were doing elsewhere?

Yep. It's the same old playbook, and is a 'no-brainer' to anyone familiar with the modus operandi. These "people" have no creativity, they rehash the same tired old methods time and again.
 
Yes to both. But I would add that it's not just pleasure seeking and desire. There is also the fear factor, as we saw with Covid. So, part of the revelations might be that they do do evil stuff, "but for our own good", like in the quotes @Approaching Infinity shared. Like a sadistic parent, actually. And again with Covid, it didn't take much to achieve compliance. With something like this, people would already tend to want to build narratives because it's too distressing and it changes the view of reality so much. So I don't imagine it will be difficult either.
This would be a nice, clean, free-will-respecting situation if it ever happened. Present the truth, and let people respond one way or the other. That would be a good way of separating the wheat from the chaff, IMO.

One crazy thing is that IF any of the Cs information ends up getting widely confirmed, or predictions come true (e.g. aliens presenting themselves as advanced humans), that will direct a number of people in our direction. Interesting to think about...
 
One crazy thing is that IF any of the Cs information ends up getting widely confirmed, or predictions come true (e.g. aliens presenting themselves as advanced humans), that will direct a number of people in our direction. Interesting to think about..
A possibility, but I wouldn't count on it in large numbers.

The number here (the forum) on a planetary level is totally anecdotal and insignificant, since the public that can access this material is included in English speakers.

Of the entire world population, only about 400 million have English as their mother tongue.

Go on a trip to Japan alone, without knowing any Japanese, only with English and without a translation machine. You'll see what fun it is.
 
This would be a nice, clean, free-will-respecting situation if it ever happened. Present the truth, and let people respond one way or the other. That would be a good way of separating the wheat from the chaff, IMO.

One crazy thing is that IF any of the Cs information ends up getting widely confirmed, or predictions come true (e.g. aliens presenting themselves as advanced humans), that will direct a number of people in our direction. Interesting to think about...
Probably not. We seeded 'political psychopaths' in the culture, but no one knows it was us!
 
Probably not. We seeded 'political psychopaths' in the culture, but no one knows it was us!
I don't think that's the same. When it comes to predictions of events, and being proven right after the fact, people are fascinated to find that someone got it right - especially if it concerns something massive. It just takes one person to notice and tell a few others. Seeding a general idea into the zeitgeist isn't quite the same, IMO. Now, if some government or official body announced, "We have discovered that psychopaths create totalitarian systems of government and are responsible for all kinds of political evil," a small but not insignificant number of people would discover Political Ponerology, and a smaller number would find out that we published it and were saying it for years.
 
Here's Jay Sands:

"They don't want to talk about reptilians at all."Jason Sands says he learned working in the UFO program that reptilian aliens are real. Grays and Nordics were also confirmed while in the program.
Sands's perspective, from other things he's said, seems similar to Blitch's. He thinks it's wrong to "shoot first", hold aliens captive, etc. But he also seems to acknowledge that the Lizzies may be bad guys.

For those who don't know, Sands claims his job in the 90s was to do "red-team" surveillance on various programs operating on military bases and labs, where he overheard conversations touching on alien/UFO subjects.
 
This would be a nice, clean, free-will-respecting situation if it ever happened. Present the truth, and let people respond one way or the other. That would be a good way of separating the wheat from the chaff, IMO.

Yes, if it might happen that way.

Interesting the below, as it is now 15-years since this disclosure business is well out there, as an aside to "it's already happened" well before - agreed, and now it is mainstream and it's this way and that way. For people to really try and grasp it, it cannot be done without an understanding of hyperdimensional phenomena, and that is asking a lot for people to grok (by 70 odd percent, they can't even grok covid let alone this reality). So, that is a really big order of magnitude to shift thinking for many, especially with narrative controls that aim to resist.

July 2010
Laura:
So anyhow, this is what I've been thinking. Everybody's waiting for something to happen, like disclosure, or after disclosure. But it's already happened. It's here NOW! Any so-called “disclosure” will be a fraud unless they come out and say that it is a supernatural or hyper-dimensional phenomenon, which they are NOT going to say because that completely counters their entire world view that worships the physical universe. That’s where the whole Darwinism, material science, exclusion of scientific study of the paranormal, and so forth, comes from. That sort of thing can NEVER be studied honestly because it would destroy their reality construct.

(Perceval) That's a great screen.

(L) Yeah, they're trying to prepare people for physical, material aliens – “Disclosure” - because they're going to TRY to pull the alien invasion trick or the "alien god" trick and they'll say, "Worship the alien god! Join behind us! We're his high priests!" But it's not going to work.

(Perceval) It's almost like that's been held in reserve if it's necessary. They've prepped people with the idea of aliens.

(L) It's like this gigantic counterintelligence program. And the main thing that I've seen them working to counter is the idea, the concept, the understanding that this phenomenon is a supernatural one. To make that clear, what we have always called supernatural, which is not necessarily "supernatural", is really just hyperdimensional. We've been aware of these things – this other reality – for millennia. They come and go. It's like the finger in Flatland. We're Flatland! Am I on to something with this?

A: About as accurate as you can get without making direct predictions.

One way or another, it seems that these new disclosures, however it comes out, and whatever happens from out there, it will boil down to protecting "their reality construct" in well organized deceptions. Their show must go on, even if they need to introduce 'friendly' space brother to help explain their new normal.

In the same session, although it relates to a wide spectrum of promoted lies, this may well be the only chance people have going forward and countering:

A: Continue to spread the truth and program that will unite all people of good will.

Q: (L) So uniting people of good will...

A: Remember we once told you that people would unite against the "invasion" at the time just before the earth changes?

Despite this, Blitch seems to have come to the conclusion that the Mantid he encountered was basically benevolent. They're just like veterinarians testing and working on animals.
Caught that last bit, and that's messed up. Suppose, though, to them we are just like animals to abuse, which is far from being benevolent when it is consumable sustenance they seem to need from us.
 
I was about to post about Sands, the whole interview might be worth watching but I just came across this clip which sounds pretty nuts!


I've watched the whole interview, my general impression is that he's an useful idiot pushing knowingly or unknowingly the narrative that the so called aliens are good guys overall, with some bad apples here and there, but for sure the alien dudes are better than our feckless Governments.

The impression I've got so far from the majority of these whistleblowers is that they're being used for pushing the "not so bad aliens" narrative while shi**ing on the governments. Thus priming those who are susceptible to the "message" to spread this idea as far and wide as possible, with the ultimate goal of an "amalgamation" of the masses by their new and better leaders because the human ones just suck due to their fecklessness.

Of course, it remains to be seen how the show will actually play out, though so far, I don't like the narrative that's being pushed and accepted by quiet a few key individuals that may have a big influence on people's minds.
 
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