Income Tax Scam=Truth About Congress (On A Red-State Reading Level)

[mudrabbit]

Um, last time I checked, I was a girl. Did I drop something?

It's not the first time. Doesn't matter what ID is used or where, most people think I'm a guy.

It's ok RR, apologie accepted.

So many people get attached to ideas without really reasearching the possibilities that it's a vector. The IRS Tax maze is such an endeavor, IMO. The emotions kick in and we're off to the races. I used to feel the same way until I started to understand that they're pretty much all blind alleys.

From Chapter XVIII of The Wave:

05-03-97
Q: (L) Reading through the session of May 23, last year, when TK was also here, and the issue of his living in isolation from the rest of the world was addressed, you asked who had begged him to stay there even though he wanted to move to a place where he could have more contact with other people and more opportunities for growth and stimulation. The answer to this question was that it was his wife who insisted on remaining even though it was clear that he was unhappy in the environment. Then you (The Cassiopaeans) made a remark about an EM vector. The way I understood it is that you were saying that a person can be an EM vector. Is that possible?
A: Vector means focuser of direction.

I take this to mean that it's not just people or situations, but ideas, beliefs, religions and political affiliations.

Peg

 

[Redrock12]

Sorry about the gender misidentification.:D

 

[Mr. Premise]

Maybe you should change your ID to "sweet fragrant lotus blossom" or something. :)

Um, last time I checked, I was a girl. Did I drop something?

It's not the first time. Doesn't matter what ID is used or where, most people think I'm a guy.

that it's not just people or situations, but ideas, beliefs, religions and political affiliations.

Peg

 

[anart]

Maybe you should change your ID to "sweet fragrant lotus blossom" or something. :)

Awwwww - I was going to do that.................

 

[mudrabbit]

You can have it, Anne. I've played in the mud way too long.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

I wanna be sweet fragrant lotus blossom too! *throws his hair back*

.. what? ... what'd I say? It got so quiet all of a sudden...

*picks up his hair from the floor, puts it back on, walks away grumbling*

 

[lotbotm]

Okay, I'm pretty new to this, but I do find that there are more like minds "awaking" than I had formerly suspected, although most of the sites and forums that host those of us who are at least debating and searching so, in that it could appear to be more than I suspect or feel are out there. I find more and more people are talking about these issues... especially farmers, believe it or not, and they are cut from different swatches, if you will. This, to me, is good news. I do feel (as we all must, as this is a TRAP we are surviving (using the term loosely, I might add) in, which tends to make one feel a certain way, like either escape method we lose. There are a few things, I believe, we need to keep in the front... particularly those who are of the mind that we are only being led into another trap by taking (any kind of) action. One, we are definitely working every day in a factory that produces the very shackles that will lead to our either physical or spiritual death. Two, "Everyone wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die", and three, those of you who either overtly or covertly caution those of us who might think about coming forward, taking a stand, practicing civil disobedience, or any other action that will of course put us at sizeable physical and spiritual risk need to start supplying solutions that will provide some type of effective recourse or just some relief from the oppression that we all feel on a daily basis. Our spirits are being squashed and dying, and I respectifully implore you to move to answers before it is too late. Yes, some may not survive, but those of us with kids would rather know that if some action is taken at least there is a glimmer of hope. I request that you tell me what can be the hope in our collective and singular futures if we do nothing. I do agree that we should not run into the slaughterhouse because that, too, is ineffective. I find that people are very UN- UNITED, and there are those who are trying to unite us all, but it's difficult to do with the plethora of information that one must sort out, that's for sure. So, how about if we start empowering one another by just taking a baby step: Let's make certain that we continue to reach out and disseminate this information to all of those that we can, let's agree to overcome our fear, as it is the fuel for the fire of those who suppress and oppress AND THAT IS A CERTAINTY, and lets be certain of one other thing. THEY ARE DEFINITELY AFRAID OF US, THE FREE BEINGS, AND THAT IS THEIR NEED FOR CONTROL IN THE FIRST PLACE. We must deflect this fear back onto them instead of absorbing it, as our taking on their fear only nurtures the seeds they are planting. The other thing that we have in our stores of ammunition is that they don't KNOW that they are terrorized... WE DO! Okay, enough for my lots of two cents. Remember take a baby step, but take it. Each step we take forward is a step to make us LARGER and MORE FREE.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

Okay, I'm pretty new to this, but I do find that there are more like minds "awaking" than I had formerly suspected, although most of the sites and forums that host those of us who are at least debating and searching so, in that it could appear to be more than I suspect or feel are out there.

But you gotta be careful not to overestimate or underestimate, which is very easy to do when we base any kind of conclusions on a "feeling". It would depend on where that "feeling" is coming from - is it based on objective and critical observation, or is it based on wishful thinking, exaggeration, or using a small sample of data and using it to create assumptions about the rest of the world?

I do feel (as we all must, as this is a TRAP we are surviving (using the term loosely, I might add) in, which tends to make one feel a certain way, like either escape method we lose.

I don't understand any part of that sentence.

There are a few things, I believe, we need to keep in the front... particularly those who are of the mind that we are only being led into another trap by taking (any kind of) action.

Those who think this are not thinking rationally though, so the first thing they'd need to "keep in the front" is to start thinking rationally again before doing anything else.

those of you who either overtly or covertly caution those of us who might think about coming forward, taking a stand, practicing civil disobedience, or any other action that will of course put us at sizeable physical and spiritual risk need to start supplying solutions that will provide some type of effective recourse or just some relief from the oppression that we all feel on a daily basis.

The solution collectively arrived at by members of this forum is: Collect Knowledge, disperse Knowledge.

Our spirits are being squashed and dying, and I respectifully implore you to move to answers before it is too late.

Answers can only come from knowledge. We cannot expect anyone to "do the right thing" if they don't know what they are doing. So we must start by giving people knowledge - and this requires that we ourselves have the necessary knowledge, which is what this network is for. When we have the proper knowledge about our situation the "right actions" become self-evident, osit. The difficult part is not what to do - but to obtain objective understanding of ourselves and our world. So for example with elections - the answer is not to vote. This action becomes self-evident once we see that elections are a sham. But if we don't have the knowledge, we are in danger of wasting energy on mulling over who is the best candidate or some other irrelevant thing that will be equally useless with respect to "resolving" our current predicament. So however you look at it, knowledge is always the solution, and ignorance is always the problem, osit.

Yes, some may not survive, but those of us with kids would rather know that if some action is taken at least there is a glimmer of hope.

I understand that in the face of the terror of our situation we are emotionally prompted to DO something, but we must remember that "haste makes waste" - that to do something that makes the situation worse for ourselves, our families, and the world iself is the last thing we'd want. Let your emotions be the fuel that drives you, but don't let them take the wheel and control what you actually DO. If we're going to do anything useful at all instead of just chasing rainbows we must know what we're doing. This means Knowledge must be the most important thing to us, not simply doing something for the sake of doing something.

I request that you tell me what can be the hope in our collective and singular futures if we do nothing.

But collecting knowledge and giving it to those who ask IS doing something, it is doing a whole lot in fact, very often the only thing that can be done. The situation of the world is a result of ignorance, so the solution IS knowledge. People cannot be manipulated and used by psychopaths and other STS forces if they know how to protect themselves, if they understand how they function. This understanding is the most invaluable thing we can impart to the world.

So, how about if we start empowering one another by just taking a baby step: Let's make certain that we continue to reach out and disseminate this information to all of those that we can

I'll drink to that! But just gotta remember free will here - we must respect people's wish to remain ignorant, it is their choice.

Okay, enough for my lots of two cents. Remember take a baby step, but take it. Each step we take forward is a step to make us LARGER and MORE FREE.

Don't forget that some paths lead up, but most lead down or just nowhere. While stepping is good, please remember to watch your step, lest you find yourself stepping right off the cliff, or worse, into poop!

 

[tridean]

But collecting knowledge and giving it to those who ask IS doing something, it is doing a whole lot in fact, very often the only thing that can be done.

I have found something that I wanted to share. I know jOda got quite irate about the whole /stop paying income taxes' etc business and this whole individual sovereignty stuff, but I do have a question?

How important do you all think it is to alert people to ponerology and psychopathy? Is it important to get it out, or is it, I'll tell you if you ask me?

The reason I ask is because I have spent considerable time researching the whole issue of individual sovereignty, the freemen movement, common law and so forth, and it is quite obvious to me now, that many who are 'fighting' the system do not realize they are trying to appeal to those in charge to see the light of day. If those in charge are psychopaths, they are physically unable to see the light of day.

I keep feeling compelled to explain to a lot of these people, and I mean people with web sites and big mailing lists, what a psychopath really is, and the extent to which they exist in our world, and that they are wasting their energy in trying to change the system as long as the system is run by psychopaths.


Any thoughts?

 

[fabric]

I keep feeling compelled to explain to a lot of these people, and I mean people with web sites and big mailing lists, what a psychopath really is, and the extent to which they exist in our world, and that they are wasting their energy in trying to change the system as long as the system is run by psychopaths.

Any thoughts?

I think with the amount of material out there on the subject, this is one thing that can safely be mentioned to people and not 'weird them out' so to say. We have so many everyday examples of ponerology in action that there a many an opportunity to point them out. Now, you could tell people "you are wasting your time" but some might take that negatively, and when that happens the message just gets thrown out the window.

I think a more pro-active way is to show concrete examples and point out that nothing has changed in the last 2000 (or longer) years and somewhere along they way these guys got into power and they're not letting go and they're definitely not gonna change things to improve the lives of us "useless eaters." In regards to your question I see nothing wrong with sharing information on the subject. They can choose not to read it and if the websites and mailing lists don't like it or find any value in it, you can leave it at that and perhaps find other avenues.