Information from channeled entity Iliuka regarding end times

[HiThere]

There is a man in Norway who has been channling an entity called Iliuka since the eighties.
English link: _http://iliuka.co.uk/wisdom.html

On this site (english) there is some information regarding the coming years that I wonder about is in sync with what the C's are saying:

"Q:Will the Earth stop, tilt along its axis and then rotate the opposite direction within three days from the 28th October 2011?
A: That is correct. However, do not see it as something stopping, because it is not related to how Mother Earth rotate. You will see, like we just said about the transformation of the polar magnetic energies. It concerns all globes in your system. If you look at planet Mars, if you look at Uranus, if you look at Jupiter, if you look at Venus, if you look at your Lunar (Moon), likewise is everything in transformation where north moves to south and south to north. Likewise has everything passed for Father Sun, correct.

Will this happen regardless of how many people who become illuminated before that time?

That is correct. It is a galactic event. Visualize yourself observing it from outer space, you would discover that you live in a spiral galaxy where Mother Earth is flying around. There are four tentacles, and you are now close to pass the fourth tentacle. Knowing this will make it easier to understand that similar events have occurred on earth before, however, it is hundred-and-sixty (160) million great sun’s ago. Do you not remember? (The crowd laugh)

Not in this life. Thanks.

Konu Ekatah.
(02.07.08)

Q:I have heard about drastic changes, and then changes that will take time. Can you explain the content of the drastic events and the events that will take time?

There is no need to reveal such information. We see humanchildren become concerned, which does not serve. Observe it with your own eyes and listen to the transformations’ sound, it will then be easier to perceive. Konu Ekatah.
(02.07.08)

Will all the ice around the poles including Greenland thaw around 2012?

That is correct.
(02.07.08)

Is the Earth hollow inside like a tennis ball?

It is not, it is not. There are qualities of iron circulating inside the core of Mother Earth along with floating magma which is about to transform. It will circulate and generate new energies to coexist with Father Sun.
So, Agartha don’t exist then?

No, it does not.

Thanks.

Konu Ekatah.
(02.07.08)

How will the ascending to the 5th dimension happen?

There are transformations which advance the frequencies, and it is related to the holy scripts explaining that the invisible will become visible. Through the new frequencies, one will lose some of the material state, however, it will be somewhat imperceptible. You would see it if you could observe it form outside. One will experience events are changing. Wild animals will appear more tame. And likewise will one see new emerging dimensions and new species in everything that grows nurture with new energies. Konu Ekatah.

Will we be without a physical body in the 5th dimension?

Some will, correct.
(02.07.08)

Will the money be replaced with barter exchange in the new time?

That is correct.

Does that mean all debts will be erased?

That is correct. (The crowd laugh)
(02.07.08)

Will it be wise to lay up a stock of food regarding the 2012 transformation?

That will not be necessary. One will be led to where food is. Konu Ekatah.
(02.07.08)

Will it be the end of football and sports, since those games are based on winners and losers?

Not do we see it will. We see strange games for humanchildren. (The crowd laugh)
(02.07.08)

How many space crafts have come to assist the earth and humans in the transformation?

A myriad, like the stars.
(02.07.08)

ENGLAND
I have a question about Stonehenge in England. Can you explain its origin, when it was made and for what purpose?

We see: It was around the ancient time about five thousand, nine-hundred and fourteen (5914) years ago. It comes from what early influenced the Celtic origin. It was made to transform connections like communicating bridges between different planets and galaxies. It also became a centre of communication and accumulated great inducting energies through meditations for the entire Mother Earth. There is a parallel to what you ask. If you imagine such stones from nature not being present, you would see it exist a generating source here as well, like Stonehenge. (Dombas, Norway). Konu Ekatah.
(02.07.08)"

I could' t find anything on the forum about the date 28th of Oct 2011, where Iliuka says there will be three days af continuing daylight/nighttime on Earth because the Earth will stop rotating. Does anyone have anything on this?

 

[RyanX]

hithere,

I see you also mentioned this channel in a previous post

I briefly checked out the website for this channel and I saw some red flags. Despite the fact that he is a trance channel, which from what I understand isn't the best form of channeling since is bypasses critical faculties, he also mentions Ashtar in his messages:

ASHTAR COMMAND
Is Ashtar Command arriving now?
Correct.
Is that alright?
What will come is okay.
We shall welcome it?
It is all well.
(??.??.07)

This may sound harmless, but this Ashtar fellow has quite a history. You mentioned in another thread wanting to download and read John Keels books. These might be of interest to you here because Keel discusses the Ashtar entity to some extent. Here's a quick excerpt:

[quote author=John Keel - Operation Trojan Horse]
Thousands of mediums, psychics, and UFO contactees have
been receiving mountains of messages from "Ashtar" in recent
years. Mr. Ashtar represents himself as a leader in the great
intergalactic councils which hold regular meetings on Jupiter,
Venus, Saturn, and many planets unknown to us. But Ashtar is
not a new arrival. Variations of this name, such as Ashtaroth,
Ashar, Asharoth, etc., appear in demonological litmature
throughout history, both in the Orient and the Occident. Mr.
Ashtar has been around a very long time, posing as assorted gods
and demons and now, in the modern phase, as another glorious
spaceman.[/quote]

So, if this channel is saying Ashtar and his cosmic cointelpro buddies should all be welcome, I'm not so sure if one should trust the other messages. Here in the excerpt from your post, Iliuka claims the polar ice caps will melt.

Will all the ice around the poles including Greenland thaw around 2012?

That is correct.
(02.07.08)

This doesn't seem at all in sync with what the C's say. In fact a lot of research indicates that we may soon be in another ice age.

But I think more of this would make sense though if you read The Wave Series.

 

[HiThere]

I agree that the C's are saying there will be an ice age, but Iliuka also mentions this in the norwegian postings. I have read the Wave on the net, and have ordered the books now. This ashtar figure is not mentioned often in these channelings, so I didn't pay attention to that. He doesn't specifically state that ashtar is beneficial as i read it, but is more generally assuring that everything will turn out fine in the end.
he is often reluctant to talk about the darker sides of the coming years, and i have attributed this to the fact that he always avoids creating fear during the sessions, and when pressed on these topics often will say something reassuring. there's a lot of material from him on the norwegian site, and it is similar to the Cass content in many areas. i've participated in 2 seances and got an impression of honesty. can't be sure about this or anything else of course. :D

 

[anart]

I agree that the C's are saying there will be an ice age, but Iliuka also mentions this in the norwegian postings. I have read the Wave on the net, and have ordered the books now. This ashtar figure is not mentioned often in these channelings, so I didn't pay attention to that.

If you are trying to increase your discernment, it is important to pay attention to everything.

He doesn't specifically state that ashtar is beneficial as i read it, but is more generally assuring that everything will turn out fine in the end.

Which might have been your first red flag.

he is often reluctant to talk about the darker sides of the coming years, and i have attributed this to the fact that he always avoids creating fear during the sessions, and when pressed on these topics often will say something reassuring.

Sounds like you are making excuses for 'him' - as if you really want to believe this 'entity', thus you're filling in the blanks. This is not discernment.

there's a lot of material from him on the norwegian site, and it is similar to the Cass content in many areas.

Perhaps if you paid more attention to the areas where it is not similar, you would get a clearer picture?

i've participated in 2 seances and got an impression of honesty. can't be sure about this or anything else of course. :D

No, you can't be sure and wishful thinking WILL get you every time.

 

[Psalehesost]

There's a relevant quote regarding these channels mentioning ascension to the "5th dimension":

[...] Among those implications [of material mentioned], which just happens to confirm some current observations, is the likelihood that this planet is going to have a rough ride not too many years down the road, including the idea that a lot of the human race may be checking out at that time. Quite a number of other "sources" are telling their followers that they are soon going to ascend to the "fifth dimension, skipping the fourth", and this is indeed the truth, though they don't fill in the details. Fifth density is where you go when you die.

 

[HiThere]

all things considered, the c's have also stated that they are not the only benevolent entities out there. intellectual approach alone will also get you every time, and discernment must not be confused with fear. but still, it's always impossible to know for sure. Since Iliuka never has been fearmongering or stated anything other than benevolent thoughts about humans, i still am inclined to consider this source as interesting. can't trust any source 100% of course, as it is with everything including own senses. but i think it is important to stay open and unafraid of any information, and then use discernment, whatever that might entail - often it is a question of gut feeling in the end. but i take all of the above to mean that the c's haven't said anything about the date mentioned - 28th of october 2011?

 

[FireShadow]

all things considered, the c's have also stated that they are not the only benevolent entities out there. intellectual approach alone will also get you every time, and discernment must not be confused with fear. but still, it's always impossible to know for sure. Since Iliuka never has been fearmongering or stated anything other than benevolent thoughts about humans, i still am inclined to consider this source as interesting. can't trust any source 100% of course, as it is with everything including own senses. but i think it is important to stay open and unafraid of any information, and then use discernment, whatever that might entail - often it is a question of gut feeling in the end. but i take all of the above to mean that the c's haven't said anything about the date mentioned - 28th of october 2011?

Perhaps. But, consider that only giving "benevolent" thoughts could be a way of soothing people into a false feeling of security, a way of lulling people to sleep. As in : "Nothing to worry about here, go back to sleep".

 

[anart]

all things considered, the c's have also stated that they are not the only benevolent entities out there. intellectual approach alone will also get you every time, and discernment must not be confused with fear. but still, it's always impossible to know for sure. Since Iliuka never has been fearmongering or stated anything other than benevolent thoughts about humans, i still am inclined to consider this source as interesting. can't trust any source 100% of course, as it is with everything including own senses. but i think it is important to stay open and unafraid of any information, and then use discernment, whatever that might entail - often it is a question of gut feeling in the end. but i take all of the above to mean that the c's haven't said anything about the date mentioned - 28th of october 2011?

The C's don't mention specific dates. In fact, specific date predictions are notoriously incorrect - and usually a sign of an STS force at work, at least to my understanding.

 

[manitoban]

all things considered, the c's have also stated that they are not the only benevolent entities out there. intellectual approach alone will also get you every time, and discernment must not be confused with fear. but still, it's always impossible to know for sure. Since Iliuka never has been fearmongering or stated anything other than benevolent thoughts about humans, i still am inclined to consider this source as interesting. can't trust any source 100% of course, as it is with everything including own senses. but i think it is important to stay open and unafraid of any information, and then use discernment, whatever that might entail - often it is a question of gut feeling in the end. but i take all of the above to mean that the c's haven't said anything about the date mentioned - 28th of october 2011?

Perhaps. But, consider that only giving "benevolent" thoughts could be a way of soothing people into a false feeling of security, a way of lulling people to sleep. As in : "Nothing to worry about here, go back to sleep".

Fireshadow has made an important point, hithere. The main way that the elite/PTB who control all the money and resources of this world have been able to do this is because they have convinced the public that there is nothing to worry about and they need not pay any attention because everything will turn out ok. This lack of attention has had very serious consequences - we've let the psychopaths who lack any conscience make ALL the decisions. So any entity that promotes this is a big red flag, osit.

 

[HiThere]

the way i have read iliuka, he is concerned with personal development for each and every one, with an nature oriented approach. i haven't found anything lulling or distracting in what i've read, and he's is not concerned about powers that be, but has more of an wide open attitude, where he answers any and all questions. he has been interpreted in the 90's to predict great turmoil before the end of that century, so he's been off mark.
but you can't put your fate in anybodys hands, human or otherworldly, so while we all wait for the big changes it is meaningful for me to go trough any and all material. it all adds up to a more knowledgeable worldview.

 

[anart]

the way i have read iliuka, he is concerned with personal development for each and every one, with an nature oriented approach. i haven't found anything lulling or distracting in what i've read, and he's is not concerned about powers that be, but has more of an wide open attitude, where he answers any and all questions. he has been interpreted in the 90's to predict great turmoil before the end of that century, so he's been off mark.
but you can't put your fate in anybodys hands, human or otherworldly, so while we all wait for the big changes it is meaningful for me to go trough any and all material. it all adds up to a more knowledgeable worldview.

Well, considering that, "false knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all" , it is not necessarily better to take in any and all material as if it is all of the same value. If one takes in false knowledge, then they don't have a more knowledgeable world view, they have a more blurred, distorted world view.

 

[HiThere]

agreed. but that's where discernment comes into the picture, and discernment is a quality that needs practice. it also serves to read with an open mind in order to get a realistic picture of the thoughts and moods prevailing in the world.
I would think that Laura maybe more than most has had to sift through lots of questionable material in search for clues.

 

[RyanX]

the way i have read iliuka, he is concerned with personal development for each and every one, with an nature oriented approach. i haven't found anything lulling or distracting in what i've read, and he's is not concerned about powers that be, but has more of an wide open attitude, where he answers any and all questions.

Not being concerned about the powers that be is lulling and most likely distracting. If the powers that be are destroying our world and everybody in it, silence and an unconcerned attitude towards them is essentially consent to our own destruction.

 

[HiThere]

It is fairly clear at this point that the world, or most of it, WILL be destroyed. The time for creating a functioning society is long gone. The c's have repeatedly stated that this is STS territory and we're all part of it. The interesting points from now is what happens after all the carnage? What happens after our bodies die? There'll be STS entities in 4th as well. I consider it more rational to look forward than backwards, but still of course strive for an STO approach to fellow living things.

 

[nwigal]

It is fairly clear at this point that the world, or most of it, WILL be destroyed. The time for creating a functioning society is long gone. The c's have repeatedly stated that this is STS territory and we're all part of it. The interesting points from now is what happens after all the carnage? What happens after our bodies die? There'll be STS entities in 4th as well. I consider it more rational to look forward than backwards, but still of course strive for an STO approach to fellow living things.

The time for creating a functioning society is NOW- it is not long gone, it never left. Evidence all the efforts of Laura, Ark, the SOTT team, the FOTC, and others yet to be revealed. The C's have said this STS existence is a choice, and we can still choose- there are those that would prefer no real choices, just continued sleep. The interesting point is what will we do now, not later. What happens after death, or 4D, ect., means nothing if we don't get busy now- if looking forward leads to a fading repetition of what is/has happened, then that's not rational, that's wishful thinking, and the same old trap, OSIT.