Is WW3 inevitable?

[loreta]

Yes the only thing worse than that is to see the 'effect'. I just had a friend around here and of course we talk about Syria. 'Well I am glad about what they are doing to Assad, he is an evil evil person'.
She took away the Paleo book so hopefully diet may help change perceptions. I find my difficulty is that sheep just swallow such Kindergarten stuff. It is so easy to deceive them even with ALL the conflicting reports.

I really do think that the more that is going on around them the deeper they bury themselves down their rabbit holes

I am just sooooo grateful that I can observe, do as much as I can, and remain as objective and informed as I can - thanks to those, like y'all here, who truly care.

Me too, I am very grateful. To be able to be well informed is something that have no price. And it is really a protection, really, really.

It is curious to see intelligent and cultivated people that when concerning war or Middle East they are not at all well informed. This dis-information in their minds is also bad food. And because of this bad mental food they are unable to "feel" the horror of it. It is really horrible what is happening in the Middle East, but these intelligent people seem to protect themselves behind the words: Assad is a dictator, an evil. Or Qaddafi was a monster. Or Hussein was an ogre. etc. They are really well programmed. :(

Here is a little interview with Michel Collon, in English, about propaganda concerning Syria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV3_YF_mzs#t=111

 

[un chien anadolu]

George Galloway's speech in British Parliament today, in case you missed it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Han5fgzy4KU&feature=youtu.be

 

[marek760]

George Galloway's speech in British Parliament today, in case you missed it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Han5fgzy4KU&feature=youtu.be

Well said , and whats more why is it always the US France and UK who are always itching for more WAR ,people are blind to not see this?,
while its people starve ~money to kill but no money to feed .

 

[Rich]

George Galloway's speech in British Parliament today, in case you missed it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Han5fgzy4KU&feature=youtu.be

Commendable speech and true words he speaks.

I watched one of the house speakers who was on previously also clearly pointing out the volume of public opposition to this. Encouraging to see such widespread opposition is delaying the threatened air-strikes. Wishful thinking maybe but the longer the delay the greater chance of the true information circulating wider.

 

[luke wilson]

The inevitable is getting delayed. I was surprised to read today that the Labour party might hold back the whole process even more. I was think "Eh? what is happening here? aren't these 2 parties essentially 1 party? what are they playing at?"

On the other side of the fence i.e on the bad news side, they have started this saying that they have high level intelligence, so high level that they are really questioning whether to tell the public or not but that we should trust them as they have REALLY REALLY high level intelligence that shows Assad is responsible. Did I emphasis HOW HIGH this is. It is like SOOOOOOOOO high it is beyond all our levels, only they can comprehend the intricacies of the whole thing. Furthermore, it might be SOOOOOO HIGH that it might not be something we can be shown, we just have to take there word for it. They really don't want to attack but apparently if they don't, this chemical attacks will keep happening over and over again. That is what Nick Clegg said, leader of the Lib Dems. When the leader of the Lib Dems comes out saying stuff like that, you know we are just getting played.

It appears this REALLY REALLY HIGH level intelligence is the thing they will use. I heard the word satellite, interceptions of communications maybe by Israel etc etc.

Overall, some good news today, it has been delayed at least until next week I think.

Still I think it is inevitable. To much preparation has been made for it to not happen. I think more fighter jets were sent over to the Med today if I read the metro correctly.

 

[Yozilla]

Hi Yozilla. Benjamin Fulford is a disinfo artist who periodically makes false hope predictions (like the one above) for years. For instance a secret Ninja organisation (good guys) fighting with Illuminati /Cabal/ TPTB -and Fulford is allegedly their spokesman - and according to his past claims we were supposed to be saved several times until now.

Here is more information about him : http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,7173.0.html

Thx un choen anadolu for link and clarification; maybe the only truth in his article is that something BIG is rolling behind heavy curtains... maybe "Zionists" days did expire and are about to be wasted and PTB will hide their own footsteps again...

Y

 

[Niall]

There's also the possibility that this 'delay' was budgeted into the timetable.

 

[Rich]

The inevitable is getting delayed. I was surprised to read today that the Labour party might hold back the whole process even more. I was think "Eh? what is happening here? aren't these 2 parties essentially 1 party? what are they playing at?"

From what I read the opposition leader of the labour party Ed Milliband is taking a position to appear favourable with the electorate for the election in two years time. He can't lose really, he'll take a stand against but because they are the minority party it is likely the Tory and libdem coalition will eventually win their bill.:(

It appears this REALLY REALLY HIGH level intelligence is the thing they will use. I heard the word satellite, interceptions of communications maybe by Israel etc etc.

Sounds about right, something that we have to take their word on but will sound plausible enough.

Overall, some good news today, it has been delayed at least until next week I think.

Still I think it is inevitable. To much preparation has been made for it to not happen. I think more fighter jets were sent over to the Med today if I read the metro correctly.

Sadly it does.:( For those unfamiliar, the metro is distributed free around London and is totally biased MSM propaganda.

 

[happyliza]

So ironic with all the powers the NSA and all the other 'spys' have that they cannot find the truth. Joe public just don't see this. Yet all is subterfuge and lies as no matter what intelligence they have it is NEVER for the benefit of humanity. Nor will 'humanity' EVER wake up to this. Well, maybe - after the fact, when all is lost. History continues to repeat itself as always. Gosh this is getting boring. But people will forever suffer.

One thing this year has definitely taught me is just HOW blind and asleep people just wish to remain. Facts can stare them in the face but under the mass hypnotism nothing - not anything, seems to make a difference, especially when it is screaming at them and staring them in the face.

The ptb have done such a brilliant job that take the msm away from people and they will suffer opium withdrawal. The vehemence with which they defend their 'gospels msm' is scary. No other alternative in their eyes. In fact they are so out to 'prove' you wrong about a small comment that Assad is totally innocent (mentioned before all the rhetoric, and said in a benign way) that it so then becomes their holy cow to defend at all costs, yet by then I have already changed the subject! lol (external consideration). Now it is so easy to see why history repeats itself and that the planet is stuck in eternal loops, repeating, repeating the same old. While the ptb get even more blatent, care less, and determined in their corrupt and blind sided efforts, because they know they set it up so well that noone has the inclination, will, or means to stop them. Obviously I am not including everyone here and the many that are side-tracked, disenfranchised for their true intentions.

For once I can honestly state I understand, first hand, how such a planet - in the midst of tumoil, is really the best learning ground, even the fastest learning ground, for those that truly wish to see objective reality as best they can while they are here to utlize the 'opportunity' that is forever laid before them. I cannot even imagine how people can keep their sanity nor their serenity under such circumstances, without the fuel that we have here and the knowledge we gain here to ultimately know that all is just lessons. I do note a sudden influx of people arriving here, which is fantastic, as so long as the web can remain 'open' there is no better port in the storm.

 

[Carl]

For once I can honestly state I understand, first hand, how such a planet - in the midst of tumoil, is really the best learning ground, even the fastest learning ground, for those that truly wish to see objective reality as best they can while they are here to utlize the 'opportunity' that is forever laid before them. I cannot even imagine how people can keep their sanity nor their serenity under such circumstances, without the fuel that we have here and the knowledge we gain here to ultimately know that all is just lessons. I do note a sudden influx of people arriving here, which is fantastic, as so long as the web can remain 'open' there is no better port in the storm.

Totally. I find when everything is dark and confusing, the truth is the one thing you can seek and hold on to, if you want to remain sane. I wouldn't underestimate Joe Public either, it appears that a lot of people have learned something from the Iraq war, at least in the UK.

If they go ahead with this war despite the massive discontent from the public, it could be the next stage in the fall of the current PTB. It confuses me how they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot on this one. They've had 2 years of flooding the country with weapons and militants with complete impunity, and the public hasn't batted an eyelid. So why come out with such an overt, aggressive stance now, and get people all riled up?
The ;cosmic threat; answer is the only one that seems to make sense right now.

 

[luke wilson]

Talking of blind and asleep, this week at work has been horrendous. Hearing peoples views on the whole situation is just like, wow, what did I do differently in my life that these guys didn't?

My co-worker was like, "They have to attack because there is no other way, chemical weapons were used"

I was gobsmacked.

Another one didn't even care, whatever the government decides is the right thing.

Talking against the whole thing at work makes me feel like a lunatic, like "Omg, how can you talk against the government, are you a conspiracy nut?". I hear there is public opposition to the whole thing, but I would like to know who exactly is getting polled because the majority are just sheep who don't care as long as there daily lives don't get disrupted.

Added: Also I can not believe Obama had the guile to come out and say that Assad was the only person who had those weapons. Therefore, by the process of elimination, it couldn't have been the rebels but Assad's regime. WHAT!?!?! He said this, on TV with a STRAIGHT face. I have no doubt in my mind this guy will not hesitate to go absolutely bonkers as he has shown over and over again, take the drone strikes for example, he is pretty much playing judge, jury and executioner on a DAILY basis and doesn't care 2 bits about public opinion or other countries national sovereignty. This guy is like Bush 2.0, the improved version. Cameron is just the poor person's Blair. Also was anyone surprised to hear Blair open his mouth encouraging Military action? Goodness gracious, we are ruled by psychopaths.

 

[Carl]

Talking of blind and asleep, this week at work has been horrendous. Hearing peoples views on the whole situation is just like, wow, what did I do differently in my life that these guys didn't?

My co-worker was like, "They have to attack because there is no other way, chemical weapons were used"

I was gobsmacked.

Another one didn't even care, whatever the government decides is the right thing.

Talking against the whole thing at work makes me feel like a lunatic, like "Omg, how can you talk against the government, are you a conspiracy nut?". I hear there is public opposition to the whole thing, but I would like to know who exactly is getting polled because the majority are just sheep who don't care as long as there daily lives don't get disrupted.

It depends on where you live, what your job is, what kind of economic status they hold etc. Maybe you just have a particularly authoritarian selection of people.

It tends to be the more working class types who have had enough of the BS, paying more and more at the petrol pumps and supermarkets every day to fund a parasitic elite's murderous desires. They don't see the full picture, but the inkling of resistance and discontent seems to be there.

Either way, those who believe lies may get exactly what they deserve, but their choice to believe them is just as valid as our choice to seek out the truth. Keeping this in mind when dealing with others helps you avoid attack, and you may just be able to get your point across to a few more effectively.

 

[luke wilson]

Just up on SOTT: http://www.sott.net/article/265623-Breaking-UK-MPs-vote-against-Syria-action

I wonder what the american's will do now. I wonder what Cameron will do now. Tomorrow will be a very interesting day. Either Cameron is going to go completely rogue and surpass the Parliament or 'Assad' will have to do something 'foolish' to make these MPs re-think.

They said 2 votes, right? One now and one after the UN publishes its report.

Added: _http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783

But - in an unexpected turn of events - MPs also rejected the government's motion in support of military action in Syria if it was supported by evidence from United Nations weapons inspectors, who are investigating claims President Bashar al-Assad's regime had used chemical weapons against civilians.

Conclusive. Britain is not getting involved. All those boats and jets to turn back. Or, an 'event' to occur is the only thing Cameron can pray for now, maybe get Britam on the phone or something.

It is actually appearing it is moving from a 'delay' to a 'no-go'. :)

Former government minister, Labour's Andrew Adonis tweets: "Tonight maybe the most significant Commons defeat for a govt on a single issue since devolution went down in 1976. Ramifications huge."

Britain's blame culture in full swing, Cameron's leadership called into question, big time, not only did he backtrack on tough talk, now he has suffered a huge defeat. From the BBC

Lots of talk about the political significance of the government's defeat. There were audible shouts in the Commons chamber of "resign" and "go now" as the speaker read out the results.

 

[happyliza]

Totally agree with what you guys say above. A brilliant speech by George G as always. Actually moved me to send a PM of encouragement on his FB site. I think we are aware of free will and that those that wish have every right to their opinions and choices - but a good reminder anyhow.


Although it was only by 13 votes at least they won round 1 in parliament. But somehow I still hold my breath because TPTB are totally loose cannons now, and these types believe their own lies and rhetoric - think in their own warped minds they are helping their 'mates' etc. Free will reminder again!

The blind don't even learn from the past invasions so we have no chance of hoping they will wake up to this one after the fact either - if they/we survive.

I just get a incy wincy feeling that something 'other' may happen over the next few weeks - I know psychopaths work their agenda on 'urgency' to push what they want before they get found out. But I think their urgency this time is also due to things outside of their control as we have been discussing.

Something has to take the heat off innocent people. In my mind better a universal solution than greed osit.

 

[Nević Nenad]

I don't think that this thing in Britain will delay anything. Americans will bomb and thats it. Its only that the British pilots wont have fingers on the triggers, of course they are participating in the logistics.
But I do think that something important happened with that "parliaments NO". This time they didn't automatically succumb to the psychopath's wishfull thinking. Maybe something really is changing. And Cameron's speech is very nice study in infantile psychopathy, shows how they "see" the world very nicely.