Zaphod said:
PhoenixToEmber said:
I get the impression that if Zaphod were in that classroom instead of me, he not only would have done nothing about it, but might have even approved of the way the girl was being treated.
Or maybe I'd just not be so quick to castigate the boy
Really Zaphod? Is that what that fabulous enlightenment led you to? Maybe the problem is not so much the obvious ignorance and unwillingness to exercise the mind (a byproduct of the industrial revolution but let's keep that for another discussion) but a distorted inner landscape as well.
As for "Muslims", that term doesn't mean anything in itself, it's just an as dumb a generalization as any other. First of all, the vast majority of what are called Muslims belong today to the western culture. "Muslim" youth in European capitals have a fantasy image of what societies, in their diversities, are in non-European countries, mostly thanks to the Western intelligence-backed predictors. Most Muslims, when they move to western countries, it's to be come more western. A "Muslim" relative of mine moved to France in the late 70's. His children are named Christopher, Nicolas, and Lea. Why? Because he didn't went to a ghetto, where frustration of not being allowed to participate to society would make a feeble mind an easy prey to the brain washing some people are subjected to today. Here in South America, many are from the Middle East, but you don't see many mosques because nobody cares of where one's parent or grandparents are from. I worked with a person whom grand parents where Muslims from Syria. Is he a Muslim? No.
So what's wrong with the "Islamists" as they are called by the Muslims? And the reason they differentiate them is because they view them as aberrations, not a better version of themselves. In fact, the primary victims of the Islamist terrorists are Muslims. Well, these Islamists are a recent combination of two sects, one ancient from Arabia (Wahabism) and a recent one from Egypt (The Muslim brotherhood). Notice that the second sect flourished under the British "protectorate" of Egypt in order to weaken it, and the first was given power by the British empire when the gave it to the actual dynasty of the Al Saoud. It hasn't changed since then.
The Islamists (or takfirists/salafists as they are designed now) are still under the protection of the enlightenment custodians, mostly because they serve their hegemonic and neo-colonial interests. If you don't know this you are living in a parallel universe of fantasy. During the 90's for instance, it was widely known that if you wanted to go to England, you had to be a salafist. With some high school friend we even joked about having beards in order to obtain a British visa (for a French visa you needed to be analphabet or with a criminal record but that's another story).
If you are content with the way the establishment made you think, justifying the bullying of a little girl in class, and glorifying a war machine that caused innumerable deaths everywhere in the world, and to support antisemitism (because that's what islamophobia is), then they have made quite a good job. Now it's up to you to become a better person with more knowledge, or to remain as the establishment wants you to be. Otherwise this silly back and forth is just a waste of time and energy.
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