Israel attacks Gaza flotilla - Many dead

mkrnhr said:
Technically, Israel already attacked a turkish ship in international waters and killed turkish citizens. The US, as the head of NATO should attack Israel by law :D
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Yeah I was thinking that as well.
 
That's why a nuclear false-flag attack could be the next move for Israel
 
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Woodsman said:
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I agree that immediate crimes must be recognized, but this piece of the transcripts really struck me when I first read it. . .

September 24, 2001
Q: (L) Well we plan to. What is going to happen with the Middleastern situation; this Afghanistan or whatever?
A: Herding of population to much finer order of control.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of this control; this increasing control.
A: Preparation for war in Palestine.
Q: (L) But nobody has said anything about having a war in Palestine. They're all talking about having a war in Afghanistan. How does Palestine fit in here?
A: It is the ultimate objective of Israel.
Q: (L) Why would they want to have war in their own country? Well, aside from the fact that they've been having a war in their own country for a long time. I guess they want to bring it to a final conclusion. What is going to be the result of this plan?
A: Destruction of Jews.
Q: (L) Well obviously this is not what THEY are planning, is it?
A: No.
Q:(L) They are planning destruction of Palestinians, right?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) It seems that through out history whenever the jews have plotted and planned to destroy somebody, they are the ones who have ended up being destroyed themselves. Or am I misreading my history here?
A: No.

The bloodlines do sound important, but I can't seem to find the section in the transcripts which explains the mission profile in 4D which is expected. In any case, Bud offered a good way to consider the issue. "Sort of like that bible scripture (is it in Revelations?) where the Voice says "Come out of her, my people!""
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Sigh...I think I need to use the swamp area of the Forum for the first time...well maybe. Some breathing will likely help more. :mad:

Anyways, I think this is what you are looking for:

September 24 said:
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Q: (L) Why was Hitler so determined, beyond all reason, even to his own self-destruction, to annihilate the Jews?

A: Many reasons and very complex. But, remember, while still a child, Hitler made a conscious choice to align himself with the "forces of darkness," in order to fulfill his desires for conquest and to unite the Germanic peoples. Henceforth, he was totally controlled, mind, body, and soul, by STS forces.

Q: (L) So, what were the purposes of the STS forces that were controlling Hitler causing him to desire to annihilate an entire group of people?

A: To create an adequate "breeding ground" for the reintroduction of the Nephalim, for the purpose of total control of the 3rd density earth prior to elevation to 4th density, where such conquest is more difficult and less certain!

Q: (L) Do you mean "breeding ground" in the sense of genetic breeding?

A: Yes. Third density.

Q: (L) Did they accomplish this goal?

A: No.

Q: (L) So, the creation of the Germanic "Master Race" was what they were going after, to create this "breeding ground?"

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, getting rid of the Jews was significant? Couldn't a Germanic master race be created without destroying another group?

A: No.

Q: Why?

A: Because of 4th density prior encoding mission destiny profile.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: This means encoding to activate after elevation to 4th density, thus if not eliminated, negates Nephalim domination and absorption. Jews were prior encoded to carry out mission after conversion, though on individual basis. The Nazis did not exactly know why they were being driven to destroy them, because they were being controlled from 4th density STS. But, Hitler communicated directly with Lizards, and Orion STS, and was instructed on how to create the "master race."

Q: (L) And they were going to use this as their basis to introduce a new blend of the Nephilim... (RC) And the New World Order... their version of it. (L) Well, what is the plan now?

A: We cannot tell you this yet, as you would seek to reveal it prematurely, leading to your destruction!!!!

Q: (F) Yes, Laura, I keep telling you that your curiosity is going to bring strange men to the door who are going to say: "Come with us, please!" (L) Well, I can't help it! Meanwhile,
back to the Celts: obviously if the Lizard Beings thought that the Aryans/Celts were a good breeding ground for this "Nephilim Master Race," then it must be because there is
something genetically inherent in them that makes them desirable in this sense. Is this correct?

A: No, not in the sense you are thinking. We suggest that you rephrase this question after careful reflection on the implications.
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For what it's worth, here is another interesting excerpt where the C's mention "Genetic tweaking of Semites":

August 23 said:
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Q: (L) Okay, moving on to the next question: Are Semites a mixture of Aryan genetics and Black genetics as I*** and I have theorized?

A: Partly.

Q: (L) Once before you talked about the "mission destiny profile prior encoding" of the Semitic genetic code structure. Of course, you talked about this being done 130,000 years ago, so that's a long time. But, was that original code structure put into the genetic code of the Black peoples...

A: Yes.

Q: ... to then be spread via their mixture with Aryans - as Semites - into other races?

A: Partly.

Q: (L) What is the other part?

A: Genetic tweaking of Semites.

Q: (L) Is there something in the sub-Saharan African genes that makes one tend more toward STO?

A: Not really.

Q: (L) [Reading from list of questions.] If not, why does there seem to be a continuing effort to wipe out these groups? Is this simply karma? [To TB] This was asked once before and the response was that it was partly karmic because, indeed, the Black peoples had a high civilization and were cruel masters of slaves. Same deal with the Jews. They are reincarnated Atlanteans and the holocaust was part of the expunging of their guilt for the former destruction of the global civilization.
[...]
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If the older session relates to this newer session, then maybe the latter is corroboration for the former in regards to this hypothesis synthesized from the notions of "Genetic tweaking of Semites" and "4th density prior encoding mission destiny profile". Kind of makes sense to me - but only kinda since this stuff is actually way over my head and I don't know the much of the context - if this is what some Semites on a "individual basis" have to do to fulfill some big Karmic lesson; that is, to receive some Genetic tweaking/prior encoding for their 4th density mission/destiny profile of negating Nephalim domination and absorption.

Anyways, thank you Biomiast for the updates of what is happening in Turkey, and also, I can't believe the French media attempted to portray the activist as terrorists...that is so sickening, to say the least.
 
Latest developments: Israel decided to release the activists.


Israel surrenders to growing international pressure, agrees to release all foreigners detained from Gaza aid flotilla

Israel decided on Tuesday to free hundreds of foreign peace activists detained from a Turkish-backed aid flotilla to Gaza, including some it had threatened to put on trial, two political sources have said.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesman said cabinet ministers decided amid rising world protests against Israel's raid of the flotilla on Monday in which at least nine people were killed that some 680 peace activists seized on the boats would be released. Israel earlier said it would jail the volunteers “for attacking Israeli soldiers.” Observers believe Israel’s move represents the government’s surrender to increasing international pressure calling for the release of all those detained. "It was agreed that the detainees would be deported immediately," Nir Hefez, a spokesman for Netanyahu, said in a written statement to reporters.
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http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-211845-israel-surrenders-to-growing-international-pressure-agrees-to-release-all-foreigners-detained-from-gaza-aid-flotilla.html


It may not be related to incidents but as we discussed in this thread, PKK attack is quite interesting.

Similarities between PKK, Israel attacks raise suspicions

The common characteristics of an assault carried out by the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and an Israeli attack on a humanitarian aid convoy in international waters have raised suspicions over whether the two incidents are related.
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http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-211851-similarities-between-pkk-israel-attacks-raise-suspicions.html

Interestingly, around the time of Israeli attack, PKK declared they would increase their attacks. And they attacked the same naval base again yesterday.

In addition to this, since we are discussing an Iranian involvement in all those events: Iran crossed the Iraq border to attack PJAK, an extension of PKK on their main base Kandil Mountain. Turkey did the same a few years back, but they are allies with U.S. Considering there is a tension between U.S. and Iran, I wonder what would be the repercussions of this event. This may start the war we have been speculating.
 
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...I can't believe the French media attempted to portray the activist as terrorists...that is so sickening, to say the least.[/quote]

Looking at how most western media's have reported the events; subtle slants to protect those innocent night rope jumping wraith commandos :ninja:/ :pirate:, and the fact that France was technically bankrupt in early May. The government(s) know who holds the purse strings and are undoubtedly very nervous. The media caters to their masters, even when it appears so obvious, however to the former, they are indeed predictable, OSIT.
 
Testimony of what really happened by Henning Mankell, well known Swedish author (emphasis mine):

From: _http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/mankell-they-only-found-my-razor/

The allegations and counter-allegations about what actually happened under Monday’s operation by the Israeli Navy against the flotilla on its way to Gaza continue.
Best-selling Swedish author of “Wallander”, Henning Mankell, who was aboard the ship Swedish-registered aid ship “Sofia” and amongst those apprehended, says he’s shocked by the military’s methods.

“They shot at sleeping people. It’s nonsense when they say we had weapons on board. The only thing they found was my razor. They actually came and showed me. It says something about their level of professionalism,” he tells the Gothenburg Post. Mankell alleges he was put in isolation and only let out of jail after seven hours. Both he and Swedish parliamentary representative Mehmet Kaplan of the Green Party, also on board the “Sofie”, were interviewed by Israeli security authorities. The two were only allowed to leave after signing a voluntary declaration, waiving their right under Israeli law to appeal deportation within 72 hours.Mankell says he didn’t know about the casualties until the paper Expressen informed him on the homeward flight, and his thoughts were with those who were killed.
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Mankell will be holding a press conference about the incident later on. I'll check out if anything new comes up in that one.

@Perceval: OMG, that clips leaves one speechless! The guy is totally a psychopath, OSIT.
 
Glenn Greenwald vs. Eliot Spitzer re Gaza blockade

From http://whatreallyhappened.com/:

Glenn Greenwald Destroys MSNBC's Israeli Lapdog Apologist
Video:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/58958.html

Worthy of a wider viewership.
 
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Well, of course, that's what WE would like to think, that Greenwald destroyed Spitzer, but we know that those who are brainwashed will think that Greenwald is lying and Spitzer was just defending the truth.
 
Re: Glenn Greenwald vs. Eliot Spitzer re Gaza blockade

It has been quite clear and very discouraging to watch the way mainstream (CNN, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc) media in the US has been putting out the story of the flotilla. Clear in that if you know the code, it is more blatant than ever to see the lie. Discouraging in knowing that most people are simply accepting the lies and being told what to think. It has been an interesting exercise to watch it unfold around the current event. Great opportunity for observing anger arise inside! To say the power of the media is formidable is an understatement. To their credit, Democracy Now (Amy Goodman, who won't touch 9-11 with a 10 foot pole) is giving voice to the Palestinian side rather well.
The Ziocon grip on US mass media is more evident than ever in this current story. I do sense, however, in most people I talk to who inhabit the general world out there, an uneasiness and distrust of Israel amidst their confusion about the issues.
 
Mona said:
What I wanted to say might sound a little, how would I say it, strange maybe. But I was thinking about this situation, and I find it odd that while Netanyahu was in Canada, practically kissing Harper's behind, this incident occured when he was not in control of his country. Well, I understand that most presidents are just used as puppets who are being used to represent some kind of leadership, but still there is something that is not right with what happened with this particular attack. Is it possible that maybe the CIA could have had something to do with this attack to discredit Israel. COuld there have been a plan of this kind that was supposed to occur while Netanyahu was out of the country?
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Hello! In my opinion, the fact that Netanyahu was missing during this event is not really a "problem". Actually, i think that he was hardly need, as i guess the decision to raid the ships with army was hardly a last minute call but more like a prefabricated and pre-authorized script. And one in perfect harmony with the usual rules of engagement of Israel. Even more so, the absence of Natanyahu creates a "plausible" alibi for an argument that could indicate that this attack was "not orchestrated". Or an alibi to allow him to blame his military stuff for the bloodshed if things get rough later. Who knows? Let us not forget that George Bush was reading kid-stories to children when the towers were being demolished in 9/11... So personally, i see nothing we haven't seen before FWIW... :rolleyes:


Earlier today i was searching the web for pictures of "Mavi Marmara", the boat that was raided. I link sent me to a Israeli-Jewish news blog, which presented in brief the story from the Israeli side. So, after sounding a propaganda warning, i will post it here because i believe that the trained eyes of this forum will see a lot of useful things about the perspective and mentality of Israel in it...
The comments in [] are mine.

OK, now these idiots say that there is a "blockade" of Gaza, and they are bringing "humanitarian aid" in. [notice the use of quotes...]

Israel answers with offers to transfer that "humanitarian aid" to Gaza in a lawful manner, as they do not want the boats to enter the security perimeter. The boats refuse. [lawful is only their way...]

Next, the sail closer. The IDF warns them to stay back. They say, "If you don't stay back, we will sink you!"

The "peace protesters" continue on--oh, but this time they have armed themselves with guns and knives to prevent an IDF assault. They are planning violence against the IDF--and they have been planning it all along. After all, those weapons were aboard those boats from the beginning!

OK, the IDF storms the boats (they could have sunk the boats, which would have been lawful under the circumstances, but instead, they put Israeli lives at risk in order to protect the safety of these "peace protesters."). The "peace protesters" open fire and begin attacking with knives and spikes. ["Attacked" with knives and spikes? What a suicidal planning to organize an "attack" to face the IDF with knives and spikes..!]

Now, the soldiers must protect their lives. They react, as soldiers will, and kill 15 "peace protesters" and wound 50 more. [Soldiers just React...and Kill. Nothing out of the ordinary. Another day at the office...]

Now, of course, every country in Europe and Turkey, who planned this whole provocation, are screaming that Israel is to blame. [All evil countries conspire against poor Israel that gets the blame. How familiar...]

We should be used to being hated and not worry about what the other countries have to say, seriously. If we worry about what they have to say, we won't have a country! [Psychopathic thinking in full action...]

They are not our friends, and they never were.
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I think the above text and specially the last few lines speak volumes! :/ :cry:

Thank you,
:)
 
I don't know what has caused me a darker mood: watching the video of the Israelis in happy dance on the streets, watching that Regev individual, or those comments from the Israeli blog... Come to think of it, the happy dance is probably the worst, since you already expect their leaders to be pathological, and one blogger is no big deal. But that supposedly 'normal' people think it is reason to celebrate that their army murders activists so that they could not deliver humanitarian aid to people who desperately need it - well, that really expands my world-view into very dark places. :cry:
 
Jon Snow [after describing the unprovoked killing of civillians]: so, are you going to apologise??
Mark Regev [butter wouldn't melt in his mouth]: What for?
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:mad: after watching that Regev interview there is only one thing I want to say. But I can't, it's unprintable.
 
Concerning our amazement that people in Israel would be celebrating this latest atrocity, didn't the Cs say that 45% of so of them are psychopaths?????
 
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