Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide
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Where is the conflict in Gaza heading?
This was a question I asked myself when I heard this song, posted to Twitter
This was a question I asked myself when I heard this song, posted to Twitter
Uploaded to TG on October 24 with the text:
Uploaded the same day to YouTube: Where are the millions (Wein El Malayeen) -Julia Boutros English TranslationBREAKING: CATASTROPHIC!!! Indonesian hospital in Gaza has been cut off from electricity from. Patients in the intensive care unit, including the neonatal unit, are going to die within Hours!!!
Remember the Israelis bombed the Indonesian hospital on the first day of the war.
The sentiment is that many people are ready to resist even if they exit this life, or is my interpretation coloured by this post from the thread: Dreaming in a Totalitarian Society?
Whether few, many, or very many people die, and whether they have a Palestinian background, or one like immigrants or descendants of immigrants to Israel, the current reality is that knowledge about the afterlife isn't widespread. At this point, I decided to update an older post relating to Dying 101 in Descriptions of the "afterlife"
Yeah, great post. I always liked this scene from Apocalypto - 'Fear is a sickness. It will crawl into the soul of any who engages it. It has tainted your peace already. I did not raise you to see you live with fear. Strike it from your heart. Do not bring it into our village.'
Just stumbled upon this while looking for something else in the transcripts.
December 1, 2018:
December 1, 2018:
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
The world war is not there to be won or lost, but to change the world in particular way (and make some money and power aside). In that sense it can only be increased in pace. If that requires for Israel to be destroyed, it will be. Together with whatever esle will be in need to destroy.
They cant ease because its destroying western economy, because western economy IS one of the main targets to be destroyed.
It is done by the psychopats, and they are not very rationale. If they have a goal and are locked onto it, thats it, no stoping.
IMHO.
SlipNet
The Living Force
The latest thoughts from Jake Morphonios linked below. Warning! Incoming rant! The situation in Gaza is dire, and the psychopaths of the Israeli regime are just getting warmed up. Increasingly I think this is Gaza's last stand, and the complicity of my UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, a supine Zionist supporter, along with the leader of the opposition Kier Starmer, reveals that UK democracy is moribund. I've seen some disgusting videos shared by Israelis in the last week too, boasting of their material wealth and services, really rubbing it in. All who support this genocide are now on the threshold of rank psychopathy at this point. If they have souls, well, they are on the line now. Israel will face their day of reckoning, but I think it'll be a bolide, not a resurgence of global moral conscience. Yes, the protests have been wonderful to see, not least from American Jews this week, but we don't have the power to change the directions of pathocracies. Too many in positions of influence, such as Peterson and Shapiro, have chosen their side, Those who dwell in the West Bank (Palestinians that is), would do well to consider all options in terms of alternative living options if they can. Let the Zionists have it. How can you co-exist with psychopaths? You can't, but I suspect that these poor folk lack the sufficient psychological data to reach this understanding. And the Christian Zionists have blood on their hands as well, I am utterly disgusted by the rhetoric I've heard from them. And they consider themselves religious people? Hah! The C's point about psychopaths having "a spectacular lack of self-awareness" is all too appropriate. All of these bastards are in for a very rude awakening.
I think this phrase "The Holy Land" ought to be retired as well. It's a psychopathological shit-hole, there's nothing "holy" about it. Sorry for the strong language, but at this point I'm at the end of my tether with all this. Anyway, rant over, here's Jake's latest vid.
I think this phrase "The Holy Land" ought to be retired as well. It's a psychopathological shit-hole, there's nothing "holy" about it. Sorry for the strong language, but at this point I'm at the end of my tether with all this. Anyway, rant over, here's Jake's latest vid.
KaWaiAwaAwa
Jedi Master
And if they ordered the stand down, then they are complicit in both the planning and the execution of the operation. Just like Pearl Harbor, 9-11, and many others.
SlipNet
The Living Force
For those with the time, this is a longer form report from Novara Media on the latest news from the "unholy land". I'm only a half hour into it, but the reporting is sane, intelligent and compassionate. The targeting of journalists in Gaza is covered in depth. Worth a listen.
The U.S. has carried out multiple air strikes against Iranian proxies in Syria.
"IRAN IS RESPONSIBLE"
- Iran is responsible for attacks launched by groups linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard
- Iranian fingerprints are all over these attacks
- The two targeted facilities are important and the ability of the Revolutionary Guard and militias to continue launching attacks will be affected.
- The IRGC has directed these proxy groups to attack US forces
We launched strikes on two facilities in Albukamal, eastern Syria, used by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and groups linked to it.
- F-16 planes bombed two weapons and ammunition storage facilities in eastern Syria
- We do not know if there are Iranian members of the Revolutionary Guard in the two targeted facilities in eastern Syria
- We did not coordinate with Israel before launching our raids in Syria (This is a very unusual statement, waiting for the press conference video to come out)
PRESS CONFERENCE IS ONGOING.
Journalists are leaking the above statements prior to the conference ending.
"IRAN IS RESPONSIBLE"
- Iran is responsible for attacks launched by groups linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard
- Iranian fingerprints are all over these attacks
- The two targeted facilities are important and the ability of the Revolutionary Guard and militias to continue launching attacks will be affected.
- The IRGC has directed these proxy groups to attack US forces
We launched strikes on two facilities in Albukamal, eastern Syria, used by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and groups linked to it.
- F-16 planes bombed two weapons and ammunition storage facilities in eastern Syria
- We do not know if there are Iranian members of the Revolutionary Guard in the two targeted facilities in eastern Syria
- We did not coordinate with Israel before launching our raids in Syria (This is a very unusual statement, waiting for the press conference video to come out)
PRESS CONFERENCE IS ONGOING.
Journalists are leaking the above statements prior to the conference ending.
KaWaiAwaAwa
Jedi Master
I am wondering why people don't see that Hamas is Israel; maybe not the people of Israel, but certainly the government.
Maybe I am wrong.
Ketone Cop
Jedi Master
Just looking at some data points, I think that is exactly the goal.
1. Obviously stolen elections with idiots installed as "leaders" (permeates the entire west, not just the USA).
2. The sending of all "spare" war machines and ammo to Ukraine, leaving many countries without enough for basic self-defense.
3. Draining of financial resources by the USA and the west to pump up Israel and Ukraine while ignoring their own populace's needs.
4. Deliberate infiltration of many western countries by millions of immigrants, 80% of whom are military-aged males.
5. Deliberately ditching many billions of dollars of weapons in Afghanistan, to be shared around the ME (along with weapons in Ukraine).
6. LGBTQ-ation of the military, schools, and political offices, where race and what you do with your genitals are prime job qualifications.
7. Deliberate dumbing-down of populations through schools for decades.
8. Damaging populations with drugs, GMO foods, vaccines, etc.
9. Drawing down of the national strategic oil reserves during a time of war, while also cancelling most other oil production.
10. Wasting tax dollars on useless new planes, ships, etc.
11. Pushing people to take sides on every issue that can potentially be divisive like politics, religion, sex etc. while ignoring the real culprits.
12. Deliberate antagonization of China and Russia and Iran along with many other ME countries.
13. Extreme censorship of anyone trying to raise any of these issues, even to the point of jailing them.
I'm sure many here could list a lot of other things going wrong in western cultures. IMHO, I do think WWIII is imminent, and the end has already been scripted.
Fwiw, the guys on The Duran appear to think that the US is in great likelihood preparing for war. According to them, employing four aircraft carrier groups out of the ca 8 the US has in service plus postioning nuclear submarines is ridiculously excessive if the goal is to fight 'militias' like Hamas or Hezbollah. And, employing carrier groups is apparently a massive undertaking, which you don't do 'just for fun'. The Alexes suspect that the goal really is to attack Iran.
Well, who knows what the psychos in the US 'think' they are doing. The Duran guys are not known for familiarity with psychopathology. Maybe it's just crazies doing crazy things. Still, I do think they have a point. No need for panic, but it doesn't look good!
Biden neocon war drums beat louder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDid2wVgRUBiden neocon war drums beat louderThe Duran: Episode 1732
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It can look like that, and indeed it was scripted long ago, and in another way some might say that WWII was a battle won, but that war was simply picked up from Tokyo Bay and moved. Then, 'Dark Forces' were reabsorbed and war was repackaged, and in my lifetime and every one else here, war has simply never ended (it became ignored and even clapped). One might even say it goes back to WWI that never ended.
However, this latest - again long in the making, now has many players assembled in theater. Backdropped are the human unwritten definitions of genocide (a clear reality), and then there are Israel's and the US's definitions - see U.S. Criminal Code below put forth by none other than sleep joe Biden with his pen.
Backgrounder of the Cs, I don't exactly know what, yet genocide is rooted in the outcome and that is happening now:
24 September 2001
October 21st, 2023 from John Helmer
MEMO ON THE FINAL SOLUTION FOR ONE STATE – ISRAEL OR PALESTINE
By John Helmer, Moscow @bears_with Preamble1. Since 1943 the US and its European allies, including Germany (Olaf Scholz’s government, n
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MEMO ON THE FINAL SOLUTION FOR ONE STATE – ISRAEL OR PALESTINE
Preamble
1. Since 1943 the US and its European allies, including Germany (Olaf Scholz’s government, not Adolf Hitler’s), have aimed to liquidate the secular nationalist Arab leadership capable of co-existence with the West and a state for the Jewish people.
2. In Palestine Hamas has studied seventy-five years of lessons on the impossibility of coordinating Arab state war in the defence of the Palestine part of the two-state solution.
3. For more than a year, therefore, Hamas has prepared in well-kept secret an offensive against Israel to achieve five objectives – the first to demonstrate how inferior the Israeli military is, how vulnerable, how incompetent their intelligence on the Arab world. This has been achieved by the initial attack of October 7.
4. The second Hamas objective has been to demonstrate the Israeli plan of ethnic cleansing of Gaza, genocide against the Arabs, and incorporation of all Israeli-occupied territories in a single theocratic Zionist state — Quod erat demonstrandum. The third objective is to hold out against the expected Israeli counterattack for long enough to activate the Hezbollah forces on the northern Lebanon front; Syrian and Iranian forces on the eastern Golan front; and the West Bank Palestinians, including the Jordanian Palestinians; the latter’s targets will be US air and armoured land force bases in Jordan. So far, so good.
5. The final Hamas objectives are to compel the vacillating sheikhdoms to resist US pressure; limit oil and gas supplies to the enemy markets; prevent regional land base and air transit rights being activated in support of Israel — so far, so good. And lastly, the fifth objective, to engage the friendly nuclear powers – Russia, China – to deter, and if necessary combat US forces in the region and Israel’s threat to fire its nuclear weapons.
Left: the new history of the 80-year US protectorate in the Arab world. Right: Ismail Haniyeh, head of Hamas. On October 8, he announced: “We say to all countries, including our Arab brothers, that this entity, which cannot protect itself in the face of resistors, cannot provide you with any protection.”
The rules of war
6. These aren’t in the code of secular international humanitarian law referred to in the western media and by UN officials in support of Israel. Those rules were eliminated by the destruction of two generations of Arab leaders willing to abide by them. The war doctrine of Hamas does not concede that international law may dictate to or supersede Islamic law. In parallel, the war doctrine of Israel is that Jewish and Israeli law supersedes every other.
This report is the most comprehensive record in English to date of the official Israel statements of genocide against the Gaza Palestinians in intention, policy and practice. Source: https://ccrjustice.org/
In 1948, the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide expressly included in Article II “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. Forty years later, in 1988, the US Congress added two qualifiers to the provision in the US criminal code which defines genocide as a crime to be prosecuted if Americans commit it. This new US law declared genocide is “the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in substantial part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group”. “Substantial part,” the statute now said, meant “a part of a group of such numerical significance that the destruction or loss of that part would cause the destruction of the group as a viable entity within the nation of which such group is a part.” So long as the genocidal Arab killer isn’t “specific” in intention and the part of the people attacked isn’t “substantial”, the killer is off the hook in the US criminal code. This was a calculated US change to the crime of genocide. The US senator who drafted it and promoted it into law was Joseph Biden. For more, read The Jackals’ Wedding – page 14-18.
7. The Hamas offensive of October 7, OPERATION AL AQSA FLOOD ( عملية طوفان الأقصى, amaliyyat ṭūfān al-ʾAqṣā), is, as its code name indicates and in the interpretation of Islamic law, lawful self-defence, and the killing of Israelis, including civilians, lawful according to the retribution doctrine of Qisas. It’s clear there is a Koranic injunction against killing non-combatants, particularly children, the infirm, the old, and women. When women are combatants, as they are in the kibbutzim, they lose their exemption; also children, if they are armed and trained. So, the evidence question is — how many children under the age of arms-bearing were killed at the border settlements on October 7? And how did they die – by Hamas directly, or in crossfire between Hamas and IDF? The Israelis say one thing; Hamas says nothing.
8. It is clear the Israeli rules of war allow indiscriminate killing of children in offensive and defensive operations, in retribution and in collective punishment. No Palestinian Arab or Iranian is in any doubt that this has been Israeli policy from the beginning; that it has always been US policy to support it; and that the destruction of Gaza is the current episode of the long laid plan.
The two-state solution
9. Zionist ideology and Israel’s constitution have ruled out the two-state solution.
Source: https://perma.cc/9PZN-DJGY
10. The Arab state supporters of the two-state solution (including Fatah and the Palestine National Authority) cannot support it when Gaza is being liquidated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), supplied by the Pentagon.
11. President Joseph Biden’s (lead image) recent public remarks endorse Israel’s one-state solution, adding his personal religious benediction — “may God protect our troops”. Until he said that, Biden had limited himself to invoking God’s protection of “our troops” in speeches on the Afghanistan War in April 2021 and on the war against Russia in the Ukraine in February 2023. Before Biden, it was President George Bush Jr. who claimed God on the US side when he meant self-defence – “we will defend our freedom. We will bring freedom to others and we will prevail. May God bless our country and all who defend her.” With Biden the Christian, and Secretary of State Antony Blinken declaring himself Jewish in Israel, the war of Israel against Gaza is a theocratic one, a crusade. This is how it is understood now throughout the Muslim world.
12. According to God, therefore, there is only a one-state solution – it is either Palestine or Israel.
The current battlefield situation
13. On the Gaza front, Hamas has fought the IDF to a standstill outside the Gaza border wall. The Israel Air Force has dropped about 4,000 tonnes of bombs per week, 8,000 tonnes to October 21; that is more than the US Air Force dropped on Afghanistan in the peak year of 2019. More than 3,500 Palestinians have been killed so far, including at least 1,030 children and hundreds of family units; more than 12,500 people have been injured, one million Palestinians displaced, and thousands of homes destroyed. About 1,200 are missing believed to be trapped under the rubble. The Israeli and US government record, reported by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) in Washington, documents the continuing firing from Gaza into Israeli territory in what the ISW calls its “Iran updates”. A prolonged IDF siege threatens to kill several hundred thousand Palestinians by starvation, dehydration, disease, and a combination of artillery and aerial bombardment, while leaving the Hamas forces relatively unscathed and waiting to inflict a higher rate of casualties on the IDF than it has ever experienced.
14. On the northern front across the Lebanon border, there have been exchanges of missile, drone, anti-tank rocket, artillery, and mortar fire between the IDF and Hezbollah. There have been casualties on both sides. Border settlements on the Israeli side have been evacuated to the south. For a summary of the ISW reports favouring Israel, read this; For maps and summaries of military action as of October 20 on the Gaza and northern fronts, as well as the Golan and West Bank, click to open.
Incident map on the northern front between October 12 and 17; source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/
15. US forces on the Jordan front. The Israeli press has been reporting some details of USAF reinforcements at the Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in the northeastern corner of Jordan and possible Marine deployments in Jordan. Whether the Marines will be moved to defend the Al-Tanf base on the Syrian side of the border, 230 kilometres northeast of Muwaffaq Salti, isn’t known.
Top, right – the US airbase at Muwaffaq Salti; source: https://twitter.com/
According to an Israeli report, “a squadron of U.S. F-15E Strike Eagle bombers based in Britain was deployed over the weekend at the Muwaffaq Salti Air Base east of the Jordanian capital of Amman. Another squadron of A-10 attack aircraft has also been deployed there.” Bottom, the location of Al-Tanf in Syria across the Jordanian and Iraqi borders.
16. Russian and Chinese navy deployments. The Russian fleet based at Tartous, Syria, is at sea, as reported here. At the moment, there are as many, possibly more Chinese vessels of the 44th Naval Escort Task Force in the Persian Gulf. The anti-surface, anti-submarine, and anti-air missile capabilities of the Type-052D destroyer can be followed here, and of the Type-054A frigate here. For the time being, the significance of this Chinese screen to deter a US-Israeli missile and aircraft attack on Iran has been missed in the western press and by Russian military reporters.
Top: https://russianfleetanalysis.blogspot.com/
Bottom: the Chinese Defense Ministry announcement of the arrival of the destroyer Zibo and frigate Jingzhou at Kuwait on October 19.
Armageddon strategy
17. US Afghanistan War veteran: “Suppose Israel and the US understand they are facing an existential survival future in which they must combat swarm attacks on three or four fronts — Gaza/Hamas, North/Hezbollah, Golan/Syria/Iran, and West Bank/Jordan, and they calculate the Arabs have at least a 30 to 60–day arms supply in stock, do they calculate they can withstand a multi-front offensive for enough time, resupplied by air from the US? If they calculate that they can withstand a 30-day multi-directional swarm, they must understand that, at a minimum, Israel’s infrastructure and economy will be ruined. In a scenario like that, even if they ‘win’, they lose. In terms of airlifting and shipping supplies, we’ve already seen that the Arabs can hit Israeli military and civilian airfields, airports and seaports. Defending Israeli infrastructure with their air defence capability is the main mission of the strike groups the US is deploying in the eastern Mediterranean and in the Red Sea
According to the Pentagon on October 19, the USS Carney, a part of the USS Gerald Ford group, had transited into the Red Sea through the Suez Canal the day before and was in the northern Red Sea when it intercepted three land attack cruise missiles and several drones.
Western societies like Israel cannot function without solid, reliable, electrical power and communications services. We can be certain that power generation, transmission and distribution will be targeted by the Arabs non-stop. The cell towers and central communications centres will be too.”
18. Moscow source. “When does the threat to Israel become so dire, they go nuclear, and when they do, against what targets will they fire – Hamas, Beirut, Damascus, Teheran?* The US won’t accept a Palestinian state so the only option left for the Palestinians, Arabs, Iranians, possibly Turks is to fight with this new kind of warfare whose objective is to cut into the flesh and bones of the Israeli adversary, and make life in that state unviable. Without a Palestinian homeland, all of Israel and the Arab territories become a battlefield. The IDF options then shrink to two – carpet bombing and mass killing of the civilian population centres on all fronts at once. If that isn’t sustainable or effective for the Israeli-American purpose, then option 2 is to attack Lebanon, Syria and Iran to stop the flow of reinforcements. But that’s regional war, and it can only be conducted by the Israelis with full US military participation. This becomes nuclear very quickly because President Putin has already placed the Kinzhal missiles in range of the US carrier fleet in the eastern Mediterranean, and the Chinese have installed their screen to protect Iran. It’s obvious that the race hatred policies of Biden and Netanyahu, and their belief that God has chosen them both as destroyers for their people, lead to the final, nuclear weapons solution. The Russians and Chinese can maximise their limited military projection by deterring, or if need be pre-empting a nuclear attack on the Arab cities or Teheran. For this to work, the Russians and the Chinese need to say more – loudly so there’s no mistaking what they mean.”
[*] In 1983, in conversation with his General Staff, Iraq’s President Saddam Hussein said: “the Iraqis would be able to withstand three years of fighting in a war. However, the Israelis cannot withstand one year of fighting in a war.” In April 1990 Hussein was hosting Yasser Arafat of the PLO in Baghdad. “[Israel] has 240 nuclear warheads, 12 out of them for each Arab capital,” Arafat said. Saddam replied: “I say this and I am very calm and wearing a civilian suit [everyone laughs]. But I say this so that we can get ready at this level.” Quoted in The Jackals’ Wedding, page 16.
Liliea
Jedi Council Member
State Department officials prepare dissent cables in opposition to Gaza assault
US State Department staff are preparing urgent dissent cables over Washington's support for Israel's relentless bombing campaign of Gaza, Middle East Eye can reveal."A dissent cable is one of our last resorts short of resigning to inform the Secretary of the gravity of this situation and let the State Department and White House leadership know that we vehemently demand an immediate ceasefire".
Last week, several officials told HuffPost that there was widespread frustration over US Secretary of State Antony Blinken's refusal to listen to critiques and concerns.
In one draft dissent cable, seen by MEE, diplomats write that Hamas's attack on Israel cannot be used as a justification for Israel to carry out the indiscriminate killing of innocent people in Gaza.
"At the very least, it will officially put on record that there are and were attempts by State Department officials to stop the genocide so that future generations can make sure this is never repeated," the source added.
Exclusive: State Department officials prepare dissent cables in opposition to Gaza assault
US President Joe Biden brought in the most diverse administration in history but several officials feel they were just token appointees
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caballero reyes
The Living Force
It's not Gaza, it's Acapulco.