IVERMECTIN good or bad?

[Kadam303]

i would like to ask people in the know to share their opinion .
ivermectin was the wonder drug during covid .
i read many papers saying its good and all the internet doctors promoting it everywhere.
at some point many earlier papers surfaced saying it ios a strong toxin affecting fertility.

Dr Mike Yeadon Ivermectin Anti-Fertility Bombshell: "One Of The Most Violent Fertility Toxins" latest vid
on this canal he goes thru many papers . (papers are online)

so what is your opinion if i may ask?

 

[Voyageur]

so what is your opinion if i may ask?

Hello @Kadam303. Ivermectin is mentioned on so many threads that it is hard to point you at just one, however, if you enter it into 'search' you will immediatly find good discussions of its use and its effects.

Now I've not listened to Yeadon speaking here, and if the brief look I had is anything, it sounds concerning and one would need to read a lot more to see what he is getting at. Perhaps you could provide a breakdown of what he is saying?

 

[Joe]

We'd have to look into the evidence, but his narrative around it doesn't sound rational to me. He claims that ivermectin was "promoted" via influencers (like Joe Rogan, although he doesn't mention him specifically) and that this promotion was part of the con. The problem is that govts. and media went to great lengths to TRASH ivermectin in the eyes of the public. So why would they do that if it is bad for people?

 

[hobnob]

According to this link, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2114907

Ivermectin can cause low blood pressure (not enough blood supply to the brain), poor muscle control (this time attacking the brain), gastrointestinal distress (if you take too much, this might be the most common sign), rash, and, confusion. High levels of the drug have also been found to settle in the lungs in high concentrations. People consider this protective, but it is best to be on the safe side, especially as people tend to take a lot more of all things than is good for them.

However, I seem to recall the C's mentioning that it is protective, but before you become infected.

 

[Z...]

According to this link, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2114907

Ivermectin can cause low blood pressure (not enough blood supply to the brain), poor muscle control (this time attacking the brain), gastrointestinal distress (if you take too much, this might be the most common sign), rash, and, confusion. High levels of the drug have also been found to settle in the lungs in high concentrations. People consider this protective, but it is best to be on the safe side, especially as people tend to take a lot more of all things than is good for them.

However, I seem to recall the C's mentioning that it is protective, but before you become infected.

Many medications can have this effect if not taken in appropriate doses.
Ivermectin has pretty good safety record in appropriate doses, it has been used in veterinary medicine for at least half a century with no known adverse reactions. The exception being collie dog breeds which lack certain enzymes to process Ivermectin.

 

[nicklebleu]

And of course it depends on the dose and the reason you take any drug - anything in very high doses is lethal: water, table salt, antibiotics, pain medication etc. Doesn’t mean these medications are ‘toxic’ or useless, just depends what you need it for and at what dosage.

Ivermectin certainly is not lollies ….

 

[Kadam303]

Hello @Kadam303. Ivermectin is mentioned on so many threads that it is hard to point you at just one, however, if you enter it into 'search' you will immediatly find good discussions of its use and its effects.

Now I've not listened to Yeadon speaking here, and if the brief look I had is anything, it sounds concerning and one would need to read a lot more to see what he is getting at. Perhaps you could provide a breakdown of what he is saying?

yes i can. i have many of this papers in one of my laptop . but i will dig out. thanks for your time.
and i have read about ivermectin many "good" papers thru the whole "pandemic" i even bought some :)

 

[Fluffy]

And of course it depends on the dose and the reason you take any drug - anything in very high doses is lethal: water, table salt, antibiotics, pain medication etc. Doesn’t mean these medications are ‘toxic’ or useless, just depends what you need it for and at what dosage.

Ivermectin certainly is not lollies ….

Pretty much what I think about everything too. In the event that you’re sick or are threatened by a potentially life threatening illness, the possible negative consequences of something like ivermectin are outweighed by the pros IMO.
I took my then 8 year old to see an immunobiologist after she broke out in a weird, splotchy, itchy, red torso rash a few weeks after the Aussie gov rolled out the hokus pokus for school aged children and he suggested ivermectin paste for horses on the skin. The rash was gone after a few doses.

 

[Fluffy]

Pretty much what I think about everything too. In the event that you’re sick or are threatened by a potentially life threatening illness, the possible negative consequences of something like ivermectin are outweighed by the pros IMO.
I took my then 8 year old to see an immunobiologist after she broke out in a weird, splotchy, itchy, red torso rash a few weeks after the Aussie gov rolled out the hokus pokus for school aged children and he suggested ivermectin paste for horses on the skin. The rash was gone after a few doses.

we didn’t get vaccinated here, this rash was from shedding of her school friends’ vaccines. Poor little things

 

[Breo]

In addition to right dosage, Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug. Die off is to be expected that contains toxins. Bio-toxins and/or heavy metals, everything that was released by the species that fell apart. Often conventional practioners will overlook, that so called "side effects" are confused with die-off reactions (Herxheimer reaction) that have to be treated as well.

 

[Kadam303]

Many medications can have this effect if not taken in appropriate doses.
Ivermectin has pretty good safety record in appropriate doses, it has been used in veterinary medicine for at least half a century with no known adverse reactions. The exception being collie dog breeds which lack certain enzymes to process Ivermectin.

as per my understanding the main said effect is fertility. which would be a devilish plan .... if true

 

[Kadam303]

thanks to all that took time to respond !!
learning is fun : )

 

[Voyageur]

as per my understanding the main said effect is fertility. which would be a devilish plan .... if true

The makers of the covid so-called vaccines have also been accused of compromising fertility, all with some or a lot of basis in fact, and certainly damage and miscarriage's, which the establishment, of course, vehemently denies.

Many medications can have this effect if not taken in appropriate doses.

Doesn’t mean these medications are ‘toxic’ or useless, just depends what you need it for and at what dosage.

Yeadon is looking to old studies since it was first developed, he was saying, and still have not seen what he was referencing. It may just come down to dosis sola facit venenum, so like anything, as is said above, the dose is always important, vital even (like salt).

The problem is that govts. and media went to great lengths to TRASH ivermectin in the eyes of the public. So why would they do that if it is bad for people?

Doctors fell by the score, their whole careers and families were ruined with just one mention of Ivermectin from their lips. The media also went full apocalyptic if Ivermectin was even whispered. So, indeed, what is with that? It has been often been posited, that in order to push the so-called vaccines the ptb had to maintain emergency status, and anything that jeopardized said status was not going to survive.

Will have to await and see what is presented.

Note: Yeadon's timing is perhaps a little interesting, or maybe not, in light of, er, a certain U.S. campaigner who once or twice referenced ivermectin as been good.

 

[Laura]

Makes you wonder. I just saw this on X:

 

[Bobo08]

That's very interesting. It reminds me of this snippet from Session 9 August 1997

A: You should know that these bloodlines become parasitically infected, harassed and tinkered with whenever a quantum leap of awareness is imminent.

Q: Whenever a quantum leap...

A: Such as "now."

And Session 18 July 2015

(L) So... Are you suggesting that, for example, if there are people who get infectious diseases that cause atherosclerosis, heart disease, cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, lupus, or any of these so-called autoimmune diseases, that these diseases are not genetically caused as they have been saying for the last 50 or 60 years, but that perhaps they were designed for people who carry certain genetic markers in their DNA, which then get labeled as the causative gene? Is that what we're getting at here?

A: Very close indeed. There is also the "tinkering" that can take place.

Q: (L) So in our particular reality and time and place, the so-called "Great Work", the alchemical self-transformation, must necessarily include work on diet and health issues and a vast increase in knowledge in those areas in order to cancel out the effects of transmarginal inhibition?

A: Yes

Q: (L) I don't know of any better way to put it. Anybody else?

(Pierre) There seems to be something else. The way they refer to parasites is that they are preventing not only the gaining of knowledge and growth of awareness, but also this quantum leap. Maybe if you have parasites, you can still increase your knowledge and awareness, but you'll reach a sort of glass ceiling that prevents you from graduating.

A: Yes

Q: (L) What's the tinkering there?

A: The parasites act as receivers.

Q: (Pierre) Yeah. The parasites act as receivers. So when you are full of parasites, you are more under the influence of bad waves, or waves sent by bad entities. You're more susceptible to those messages. There's a bad influence on you beyond the parasites.

A: Getting free of parasitic microorganisms is one of the first orders of business for transformation.