Japan - 8.9 Earthquake - Fukushima Meltdown

mkrnhr said:
EGVG said:
My friend was with her school mates and they all where on a trip to the south of lima, outside the city and they all saw this phenomena coming from the sky and from the sea into the air where it flashed very strongly! Same when I saw the lights they came from the sea area.

Interresting. It may suggest some sort of electrical discharges then.

XRz said:
Do you have some links to share? I would be interested in learning more about these lights.

wikipedia
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_light
gives particularly a link to
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=22089

4/2/2011 -- Japanese Volcano - Sakurajima Erupts - April 1, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmBFYskGObg&feature=player_embedded

:huh:

UFOs Electric Anomalies Sakurajima Volcano April -5 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg8lqaCDii0&feature=player_embedded
 
April 7, 2011: The things become more and more clear. Whereas AREVA distributes a pdf (en) pdf (fr) where the only reason of explosion of the reactors refers to the explosion of hydrogen in the room of maneuver of the superior floor (what was the case for the unit number 1), even the Japaneses, in spite of censorship, and of the silences embarrassed of their mindless, begin to say themselves that the explosions of the reactors 1 and 3 was of fundamentally different natures, the second capable to be imputed to the beginning of a critical event, or in any case to an explosion taking its source in the interior floors.

Fukushima_deux_visions.jpg


Two explosions having completely different starting point

The explosion of the reactor 3 contradicts the report published by AREVA.

Fukushima: Thirty years of hidings and lies! (mix of French & English): http://fukushimaleaks.wordpress.com/

source: http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/seisme_au_japon_2011/seisme_japon_2011.htm#8_4_11

[edit] link to English Areva pdf added
 
April 8 2011-A: A strange gleam on the heart of the reactor n° 3 of Fukushima :

This photo of the site has been shoot by satellite April 4, 2011.

Fukushima_satellite_4_Avril.jpg

In blue, the numbers of the different reactors. The size of the shades indicates that the cliché has been taken in the middle of the day.


Close shot on the reactor number 3 :

Fukushima_Satellite_gros_plan.gif

Do you see the gleam indicated by the arrow. Another Tchernobyl in preparation???


Subsidiary question :
Do you see armored construction equipments, as well as the crowd of technicians and engineers who gather around the four damaged reactors?

source: http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/seisme_au_japon_2011/seisme_japon_2011.htm#8_4_11
 
A couple of more articles, relating to radiation levels and food chain...


http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/eu-follows-epa-raises-acceptable.html


America and EU Agree: Raise Radiation Levels for Food


[...] However, since public opinion is worth virtually nothing, once a proposed change is published in the Federal Register, it is well on its way to becoming new policy. This is unfortunate considering the fact that, according to PEER (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, the new standards would result in a “nearly 1000-fold increase for exposure to strontium-90, a 3000 to 100,000-fold hike for exposure to iodine-131; and an almost 25,000 rise for exposure to radioactive nickel-63” in drinking water. [...]




http://www.tabletalkatlarrys.com/index.php/2011/04/coverup-the-dirty-secret-of-our-radioactive-food-chain/


COVERUP – The Dirty Secret of Our Radioactive Food Chain

[...] As those fish feed on the coast of Japan in preparation for their journey and then make their way across the ocean, they will feast on massive amounts of smaller fish such as sardines, anchovies and squid. They will consume as much as 25% of their own weight each day.

The odds are strong that significant numbers of those Pacific albacore tuna will bring radioactive iodine 131 and/or cesium 137 from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant with them. That the radiation has been spewing into the air and water for weeks while utility and government officials try futilely to stem the flow from the devastated nuclear reactors. [...]

[...] This radioactivity, along with that from Chernobyl, atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons, frequent releases at nuclear power plants around the world, and other sources have raised the so-called background level of radiation on Earth. It is against that ever escalating level of background radiation that we are offered assurances that each successive release at Fukushima and elsewhere is no greater than the background level to which we all are exposed in the course of daily life. Plain and simple: it’s a false and arbitrary standard.

Try as they may, utility executives and government officials in the U.S. and Japan can no longer hide the fact that radiation being released at Fukushima will impact the world’s food chain for decades – maybe centuries – to come. [...]
 
April 8, 2011-C: Here are some pictures that allow to know a few more on what happens in Fukushima. In the days that followed the earthquake, the engineers quickly noted an important crack that had appeared in a basin situated to the immediate contact of the water of the port, bound to the reactor number 2.

fuite_unite_2.jpg

It is at this place that a radioactive water leak operate toward the sea


fuite_unite2-2.jpg

View of the crack created by the earthquake. Behind, the well.​


fuite_unite2-3.jpg

Plunging view on the fissured well. Inflow of the electric conducts


fuite_unite2_4.jpg

The well, drowned in the concrete, while hoping to fill in the leak.



The Japanese call on the Americans, who lend a barge permitting to bring soft water on the site :

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The American barge filled of soft water, in tow


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The arrival of the US tug, pulling the barge from soft water, to supply the trucks of firemen: March 31, 2011



The Japanese call on the Russians, while asking them to send them their specialized floating unit capable to treat liquid sewages, while extracting the radioactive components chemically. Capacity of treatment: 35 cubic meters per day, 7000 per year.

unite_flottante_russe.jpg


source: http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/seisme_au_japon_2011/seisme_japon_2011.htm
 
Don't be fooled by the spin: radiation is bad: The Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/dont-be-fooled-by-the-spin-radiation-is-bad-20110407-1d63z.html

With the 25th anniversary of Chernobyl looming, the pro-nuclear lobby is in overdrive.

You have to hand it to the nuclear industry and its acolytes. In the middle of the second-worst nuclear power disaster in history at Fukushima, and with still no end in sight, you would think they would respond with contrition, humility and profuse mea culpas. Not on your life. The industry representatives and its acolytes came out swinging in full denial attire.

Ziggy Switkowski, former chair of ANSTO (Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation) and a proponent of nuclear power for Australia, claimed "the best place to be whenever there's an earthquake is at the perimeter of a nuclear plant because they are designed so well", and then quickly added: "On the other hand, you know, if the engineers do lose control of the core, then the answer becomes different."

Strident nuclear advocate Professor Barry Brook gave assurances in his running commentary that seemed ironically prescient of what was about to happen, stating ''I don't see the ramifications of this as damaging at all to nuclear power's prospects'' and that ''it will provide a great conversation starter for talking intelligently to people about nuclear safety''.

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Other arguments trotted out by pro-nuclearists about how safe nuclear power is demonstrated their chutzpah more than their good judgment. My favourite: the justification for nuclear power is that it kills fewer people than the coal industry. Ignoring the false choice this proposition entails, what does it say about the safety culture of the nuclear industry when one of its selling points is that it kills fewer people than the competition?

But more insidious and objectionable is the creeping misinformation that the nuclear industry has fed into the public sphere over the years. There seems to be a never-ending cabal of paid industry scientific ''consultants'' who are more than willing to state the fringe view that low doses of ionising radiation do not cause cancer and, indeed, that low doses are actually good for you and lessen the incidence of cancer. Canadian Dr Doug Boreham has been on numerous sponsored tours of Australia by Toro Energy, a junior uranium explorer, expounding the view that "low-dose radiation is like getting a suntan". Toro must have liked what it heard because it made him a safety consultant for the company in 2009.

Ionising radiation is a known carcinogen. This is based on almost 100 years of cumulative research including 60 years of follow-up of the Japanese atom bomb survivors. The International Agency for Research in Cancer (IARC, linked to the World Health Organisation) classifies it as a Class 1 carcinogen, the highest classification indicative of certainty of its carcinogenic effects.

In 2006, the US National Academy of Sciences released its Biological Effects of Ionising Radiation (VII) report, which focused on the health effects of radiation doses at below 100 millisieverts. This was a consensus review that assessed the world's scientific literature on the subject at that time. It concluded: ". . . there is a linear dose-response relationship between exposure to ionising radiation and the development of solid cancers in humans. It is unlikely that there is a threshold below which cancers are not induced."

The most comprehensive study of nuclear workers by the IARC, involving 600,000 workers exposed to an average cumulative dose of 19mSv, showed a cancer risk consistent with that of the A-bomb survivors.

April 26 marks the 25th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster. The pro-nuclearists have gone into full-spin-ahead mode, misrepresenting the latest UNSCEAR (United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation) report on Chernobyl.

Two days ago on this page, George Monbiot (''How the anti-nuclear lobby misled us all with dodgy claims''), citing the report, wrongly plays down he death toll. He correctly states that the report found 6848 cases of thyroid cancer in children, although he fails to acknowledge it was due to the effects of radioactive iodine in the nuclear fallout. The number of cases will continue to increase, according to the US National Cancer Institute, for a further 10 to 20 years.

Thyroid cancer is easy to detect because it is normally a rare cancer. Most other cancers caused by radiation are not that easy to detect above the high background natural rates of cancer. It is the proverbial needle in a haystack scenario - but in this case the needles (radiation-induced cancer) look the same as the hay (other cancers). What the report therefore said was that statistical limitations and large uncertainties precluded being able to single out any radiation-induced cancers. It did not say there have been no cancers, as Monbiot and others claim, or that none will develop, only that it is not possible at this stage to detect them.

IARC states that ''by 2065, predictions based on these models indicate that about 16,000 cases of thyroid cancer and 25,000 cases of other cancers may be expected due to radiation from the accident and that about 16,000 deaths from these cancers may occur''. Whether we will be able to detect them when there will also be more than 1 million other cases of cancer over this period is debatable. But every one of these excess cancers is a tragedy for each victim and their family, and is no less so simply because cancer is a common disease.

George Monbiot should read properly the BEIR VII report that Helen Caldicott gave him - all 423 pages.

Dr Peter Karamoskos is a nuclear radiologist and a public representative on the radiation health committee of the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency. The opinions expressed in this article are his own.

From the department Of Nuclear Engineering University Of California Berkeley:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/UCBAirSampling

Food Chain Testing: http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2525
UCB Food Chain Sampling Results
Back to Main UCB Air and Water Sampling Page

Radionuclides, once deposited by rainwater or air onto the ground, will find their way through the ecosystem. We are already tracking its path from rainwater to creek runoff to tap water, but we would also like to monitor how much these isotopes that make their way into our food. For example, how much gets taken up by the grass and eventually winds up in our milk?

We have been collecting produce that is as local as possible to test for the radioactive isotopes. We might expect different kinds of plants to take up different quantities of cesium and iodine, so we are trying to measure as many different plants and fruits as we are able to. So far, we have measured spinach, strawberries, cilantro, grass, and mushrooms. We have also measured local topsoil.

In the tables below, we are providing two numbers for each of the isotopes. The first is a standard concentration unit of Becquerel per kilogram (Bq/kg) which is the number of particles decaying per second in each kilogram of the sample. The number in parentheses after the activity is the number of kilograms that one would need to consume to equal the radiation exposure of a single round trip flight from San Francisco to Washington D.C. (0.05 mSv). For more information on how this equivalent dose is calculated, the details are here: How Effective Dose is Calculated

The experimental setup used for the food testing is the same setup used for the Rainwater Collection Experiment.

Topsoil,(4-6-2011) Grass (4-5-2011), Wild Mushrooms (4-2-2011), Spinach(4-8-2011), Strawberries (4-1-2011), and Cilantro (4-4-2011).
Alameda, CA. USA: http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2525
 
Well, here's one possible ray of light as a result of this disaster - Germany is discussing phasing out nuclear power.

Germany to Phase Out Nuclear Power - Deputy Minister

Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:51pm GMT

* 7 oldest reactors plus Krummel to stay off line -official

* Other 9 to be phased out before end of decade -official

* First meeting of Ethics Commission held on Monday


ABU DHABI/BERLIN, April 4 (Reuters) - A German deputy environment minister said the government would phase out all nuclear power in the country before 2020, taking a hard line stance that may not be reflective of the centre-right coalition.

"A decision has been taken to shut down eight plants before the end of this year and they definitely won't be reactivated. And the remaining nine will be shut down by the end of the decade," Juergen Becker told Reuters on Monday.

"Japan has shown that even if there is a miniscule occurrence, the residual risk is too high to justify the continuation of nuclear power (...) It is better to go for other energy services in a civilised country," he said.

The rest of the article is here: _http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE7331AN20110404
 
Inside video from the evacuation zone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ3pPuL8

All is abandoned in the zone and roadsigns do not work any more.
 
Thank you both for the 2 replies below, and I've read these articles. VERY INFORMATIVE!!

But I ask again because I'm scheduled to be in KC MO next week and it would seem to me from logic that the closer one is to Japan the more radiation, but from the limited maps I see it seems that the East Coast and Fl has more radiation than the Mid West.... but I don't know if this is correct. I should be there for 4-5 months...


Any info would be greatly appreciated.....


*edited*
 
Ellipse said:
Inside video from the evacuation zone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ3pPuL8

All is abandoned in the zone and roadsigns do not work any more.

It's almost unbelievable!
 
EGVG said:
Ellipse said:
Inside video from the evacuation zone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ3pPuL8

All is abandoned in the zone and roadsigns do not work any more.

It's almost unbelievable!

Those poor animals in the evacuation zone...(but they run "wild and free")
 
The links below are very informative, these display models of several agencies (like ZAMG, EURAD, NOAA HYSPLIT, NILU), to my understanding they show models that predicts how it is going to be in 2 days or more, depends on when the analysis was done.
I try to check them every day as they update, and about reliability I'm not totally sure how trustworthy they are.
Well here it is:

This one , sums (Xenon-133, Cessium-137, and Iodine-131) and even on different heights the Cessium and different parts of the world or even the entire world:
  • http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?VAR=nilujapan131
(Just click on the right panel to see other isotopes and click too on Loop, to see how according to them how is going to be the next few days)

This mostly show the West Coast of the US, and the Plumes from Japan:
  • http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~tcanty/hysplit/

There's another one, but can't remember it. I'll look it.
By the way, where I found those, are from a guy in youtube from his channel that is _http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse_

He puts a lot more of links, even from other countries (like Spain, Finland, Swiss, France). He puts those links in the description of his youtube videos:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87CJv4T4_o

Again not sure about reliability on this one too.

[quote author= Dutchsinse Youtube Channel Video Descriptions]
Already forecasted to be hitting Alaska NOW.. and west coast tomorrow (April 9/10, 2011)..

Full mid levels of Cesium , Xenon, and Iodine.. particulate matter, in the cloud vapor from surface level to 5000m (15,000 feet) ..

These levels are now a full level higher than all the previous forecasts.

It is up to you to decide how you want to approach this data.

Personally, I believe it to be IN THE PRECIPITATION for sure.. which means you do not want to get the rain or snow on you, and do not want to injest the fluid.. (i.e. drink the water) until levels deminish.

here are all the links: make sure to refresh each one so you get the most current data:

the revealed US site:

http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~tcanty/hysplit/

the known European sites forecasting basically the same data:

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis131&...

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis133&...

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis137&...

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=eurad5000&amp...

Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air.
Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site.


XE-133
CS-134
BA-136M
CS-136
CS 137
I-131
I-132
I-133
TE-132

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&...

Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe.

All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below.

http://www.woweather.com/

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=hysplitheight

The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several models... tells the tale of the isotopes coming our way... .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexico...

Finland radiation:

http://www.stuk.fi/fi_FI/

radiation forecasting links:

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=webcam&SA...

http://eurdeppub.jrc.it/eurdeppub/home.aspx#

spain radiation link:

http://www.csn.es/index.php?option=com_maps&view=mappoints&Itemid=32

http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/

http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

http://www.epa.gov (click on radiation update)

http://www.irsn.fr/EN/Pages/home.aspx

http://www.nucleartourist.com/

http://www.stuk.fi/index_en.html

http://www.mext.go.jp/english/radioactivity_level/detail/1303962.htm

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/index.html

http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/

http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P867_02.html

http://www.mapion.co.jp/topics/genpatu/

http://strahlenbelastung.wo-wann-wer.de/

dutch radiation monitoring:

http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/

swiss radiation monitoring:

https://www.naz.ch/en/aktuell/zeitverlaeufe.html

Finland radiation monitoring:

http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P160_01.html

www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P867_02.html

French radiation monitoring: (thanks to youtube user: RehKurts ! )

http://sws.irsn.fr/sws/mesure/index

http://www.irsn.fr/FR/Documents/france.htm

jet stream forecasting:

http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/CT/animate.arctic.color.0.html

http://nowcoast.noaa.gov/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/srh/tropicalwx/satpix/nwpac_ir4_loop.php

http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis131&...
[/quote]
 
Just weird...

1.- http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24216

Radioactive rain causes 130 schools in Korea to close — Yet rain in California had 10 TIMES more radioactivity


The article in incomplet, but here you can find levels of redioactivity in USA

2. http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/RainWaterSampling


:huh:
 
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