Jet crashes into Philadelphia residential area at high speed

to gain a sense of whether there is more anomaly and spectacular distraction than usual.

The story of this crash seemed to knock out all the coverage of the D.C. crash. Turned on Fox news just before Jesse Watters (which had the closing moments of the Ingraham Angle) to catch the latest details of the D.C. crash only to see that another plane had crashed. I didn't watch nonstop, but every time I checked, the next hours of the Fox news lineup was entirely of the Philadelphia crash with mostly the same info and vids playing over and over. It made me wonder if that's normal to focus entirely on such an incident, maybe because it was so dramatic with so many unknowns and on the heels of the other crash? Certainly took the attention away from any speculation concerning the Black Hawk helicopter's role in the D.C. crash. Or just coincidence that another plane crashed.🤷‍♀️
 
So the pilot did all he could to steer the plane away from homes, aiming it for the middle of the road where it crashed.

In viewing the vid of the crash area that appeared to be mostly road, it brought tears to my eyes that the pilot knew crashing was inevitable and aimed for road and away from houses. That was truly heroic! Your post confirmed that idea and tears again. And he did it plummeting at 392 mph!
 
I may be wrong about that. The flightradar details reported vertical rate at 11,000fpm. That may have been when it was taking off, not going down to the ground.

A Learjet 55 medevac flight crashed shortly after departure from Northeast Philadelphia Airport (PNE | KPNE) on 31 January. The flight departed at approximately 23:06:16 UTC (18:06 local time) bound for Springfield, Missouri (SGF | KSGF). the ground.


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The Learjet was broadcasting ADS-B data, which was received by the Flightradar24 network. The last ADS-B message with a position update was received at 23:07:02 with the aircraft located at 40.04924, -75.0589 (as shown in the image above).

ADS-B messages received for an additional two seconds did not include position information, but did include altitude and vertical rate. The highest vertical rate reported by the aircraft was -11,008 feet per minute.

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Playback of the flight may be accessed here. The files available for download below include the standard CSV and KML files and the granular, high-frequency data in CSV format.

Aircraft information


XA-UCI is a 43 year old Learjet 55 operated in an Air Ambulance or Medevac configuration.

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Weather information

The METAR for Northeast Philadelphia Airport valid at the time of departure indicated visibility of 6 miles and overcast skies at 400 feet.
 
Learjet 55, like most Jets run on FBW that is ‘fly by wire’, I figure this one being so old has been retrofitted more than once. And that means that all inputs that are received from the pilot have to run through a computer program then it goes out to the actuator and varies it on the input.

So, just who supplies this kind of technology? Here is three that came to AI (Verified sources)

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I don’t know about you but I would expect that a simple interference could quite possibly redirect a component to do something it’s not suppose to do, without even being on-board, like in this event.

These two events are too close in distance and time, I would suspect our blue laser guys are at work here too. If only to draw your attention away from the former one.

I would suspect that it was a chance for another demonstration to those who would own their own jet, you know that very rich guy in that country, you know the one … you probably know many. I believe that this was to reel some of them in too … and say, ‘Look we did this to an old Lear, just think what we could do to your new one there!’ kind of thing. We can only see if it does work at keeping them quiet … at least for a little bit.

Now I expect that you could see connections to countries and those that were on the flight, those who ran the jet and those that made the jet on top of all this.

It’s just a big game to them now as they cling to power, the only rule is the ‘Last One Alive Wins’. Keep the popcorn handy, Haiku …
 
It sounds like the Mexican registered Jet was at full throttle when it hit.


Nuts!

More footage of the impact from street level:

 
I would suspect that it was a chance for another demonstration to those who would own their own jet, you know that very rich guy in that country, you know the one … you probably know many. I believe that this was to reel some of them in too … and say, ‘Look we did this to an old Lear, just think what we could do to your new one there!’ kind of thing. We can only see if it does work at keeping them quiet … at least for a little bit.

Regarding a "message", if it was one;

lots of big wig politicos in DC use those military helicopters to get ferried to VIP meetings. Lots of the same big wigs use private jets. If they got the message from past events (like GermanWings) that they were not safe on commercial planes, and decided to use more private military aircraft and jets, well, now they got a message about those also.
 
Learjet 55, like most Jets run on FBW that is ‘fly by wire’, I figure this one being so old has been retrofitted more than once. And that means that all inputs that are received from the pilot have to run through a computer program then it goes out to the actuator and varies it on the input.

So, just who supplies this kind of technology? Here is three that came to AI (Verified sources)

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I don’t know about you but I would expect that a simple interference could quite possibly redirect a component to do something it’s not suppose to do, without even being on-board, like in this event.

These two events are too close in distance and time, I would suspect our blue laser guys are at work here too. If only to draw your attention away from the former one.

I would suspect that it was a chance for another demonstration to those who would own their own jet, you know that very rich guy in that country, you know the one … you probably know many. I believe that this was to reel some of them in too … and say, ‘Look we did this to an old Lear, just think what we could do to your new one there!’ kind of thing. We can only see if it does work at keeping them quiet … at least for a little bit.

Now I expect that you could see connections to countries and those that were on the flight, those who ran the jet and those that made the jet on top of all this.

It’s just a big game to them now as they cling to power, the only rule is the ‘Last One Alive Wins’. Keep the popcorn handy, Haiku …
I was wondering when a conspiracy angle would present, and here is one with points to consider.
For me, I had a few questions about the passenger compartment. We are told of a Mexican pediatric case that completed treatment at Shriners Hospital, and so was returning to Mexico, via Branson, MO. I thought it unusual to use an air ambulance for any non-critical medical transportation, but have since learned that all on board were Mexican, and tasked with transit both ways for this case.

Off topic, but just for scale, a ride to a "trauma center" on an air ambulance (helicopter) maybe 3 counties away (60-75 miles) can set you back $500K, typically NOT covered by medical insurance! They listen on scanners for MVAs, and there might be 2-3 Medevacs trying to get there first! Totally predatory. They depend on auto insurance liability payouts, I suspect. Anyway, may want to avoid if injury is not life threatening.

I can't imagine what a ride on a med-Learjet might cost. In our case here, it cost everything that money could not buy. So very sad.
 
This guy is disagreeing with multiple speculations (on the internet) that the aircraft went into a stall. This is because of the speed it crashed at. He also says it will be a very difficult accident to investigate.


This bloke states that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is also contributing to the investigation (5.55 min). :huh: (I know they would have oxygen on board which most likely contributed to the explosion - but really?). He also says that in one lot of footage, it appears as if something 'comes off' the plane just prior to impact (5.30 min).

 
Learjet 55, like most Jets run on FBW that is ‘fly by wire’, I figure this one being so old has been retrofitted more than once. And that means that all inputs that are received from the pilot have to run through a computer program then it goes out to the actuator and varies it on the input.
There is a possibility that the software has a 'backdoor,' allowing the pilot's inputs to be canceled and enabling remote control of the plane. Since they use Fly-By-Wire (FBW) systems, I think they wouldn’t miss the opportunity to intentionally design the software in this way, or they could be using malware to enable that backdoor.
 
There is a possibility that the software has a 'backdoor,' allowing the pilot's inputs to be canceled and enabling remote control of the plane. Since they use Fly-By-Wire (FBW) systems, I think they wouldn’t miss the opportunity to intentionally design the software in this way, or they could be using malware to enable that backdoor.
I doubt NTSB will ever consider such a theory. I'm reading about spatial disorientation as a possibility. I've experienced this while diving, and I doubt it might apply here because (in my limited experience), it takes a bit to realize the state of it, then practice calm for re-orientation. There wasn't anything like enough time here (but I could be wrong). We know this craft had momentum to keep going forward and should have had instrumentation for good readings. We assume our pilot was fully conscious. Hmmm... I don't think he replied to the last prompt from ATC. Is this typical? So, something wrong with pilot, instruments or a takeover of either/both? I know nothing about aircraft, so just grasping at straws here.
How was his health? Something as simple as a pulmonary embolism could drop him fast. Probably vaccinated and spent a lot of time flying. :(
 
Here's a breakdown. Worth noting, he says based on ground speed there was no stall. "They have lost control of the plane." Based on the data he shows, ground speed of the plane upon impact was 233 knots/268mph and he says based on videos that both engines sound like they are operating. Also, no fire on board the plane. What people were seeing were the landing lights. He does bring up spatial disorientation, saying that the NTSB will have to rule out all other factors first before they consider it.

 
There was speculation that the pilots might have been gassed, similar to the United Airlines crew during the Twin Towers attack on 9/11.

I wouldn't be surprised if the black boxes are too damaged to recover any data.


Preliminary flightpath analysis indicates the ambulance Learjet 55 which crashed in Philadelphia had climbed to about 1,500ft before steeply descending and striking the ground.

Its high-energy impact spread pieces of wreckage over a wide area of a suburb about 2.5nm from the departure end of Northeast Philadelphia airport’s runway 24, from where it took off on 31 January.

Investigators have located the Learjet’s two engines, and retrieved the cockpit-voice recorder, disclosing that it was found at the point of impact at a depth of 8ft (2.4m).

Search personnel have also located the jet’s enhanced ground-proximity warning system which could also provide the inquiry with valuable flight data.

The aircraft’s flight “lasted less than a minute”, said National Transportation Safety Board investigator-in-charge Ralph Hicks during a 1 February briefing.

Hicks says the jet made a “a slight right turn, followed by a slight left turn” before the descent – although the inquiry has yet to establish whether this motion is relevant to the crash.

Philadelphia mayor Cherelle Parker, speaking on 1 February, said four crew members, a patient and a relative were on board the jet, and that the fatalities also include at least one person in a car.

City of Philadelphia managing director Adam Thiel says a number of individuals are in hospital, adding that there are “a lot of unknowns” about the identities and locations of people who were in the vicinity at the time of impact.

“We also have debris in a remote area where something happened with the aircraft,” he says, without elaborating.

The NTSB was not aware of any object falling from the aircraft at the time of its briefing – or the specifics of the remote debris claim – but encouraged the submission of video evidence from witnesses.

Chair Jennifer Homendy says there was no communication from the aircraft about problems before air traffic control lost contact with the flight.

Philadelphia jet crash victims identified; cockpit voice recorder recovered Snip
Updated Mon, February 3rd 2025 at 10:34 AM
PHILADELPHIA (TNND) — Four of the passengers killed in a medical transport jet crash in Philadelphia Friday have been identified by the Mexico-based company that was operating the plane.

Jet Rescue Air Ambulance said a child patient and five other people were on the Learjet 55 when it plummeted to the ground shortly after takeoff around 6:30 p.m.

The child had recently completed treatment at Shriners Children’s Philadelphia hospital for a condition not easily treated in Mexico, hospital officials said. Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said all six victims on the plane were from her country.

A spokesperson for Jet Rescue Air Ambulance confirmed the names of the four crew members who were killed in the crash:
  • Capt. Alan Alejandro Montoya Perales
  • Copilot Josue de Jesus Juarez Juarez
  • Dr. Raul Meza Arredondo
  • Paramedic Rodrigo Lopez Padilla
The Ensenada municipal government confirmed Valentina Guzmán Murillo was the child receiving treatment and that her mother, Lizeth Murillo Osuna accompanied her.

On Saturday, Mayor Cherelle Parker said during a press conference that one person on the ground who was in a car was killed in the crash. The individual has not been identified.

In an update on Sunday, Parker said 22 people were injured and five of them remain hospitalized. At least 11 homes were significantly damaged, along with some businesses.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is leading the investigation with assistance from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

The jet's cockpit voice recorder was recovered at the impact site at a depth of about 8 feet, the NTSB reported in a Sunday update. Also recovered was the aircraft's ground proximity warning system, which could contain flight data.

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