Joe Szimhart & CultAware - New Niche for Psychopaths

Laura

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Thank you for continuing to dig on this. These connections need to be documented as is being done here, and available for anyone searching on the names of these individuals and institutions.
 

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Laura said:
Thank you for continuing to dig on this. These connections need to be documented as is being done here, and available for anyone searching on the names of these individuals and institutions.
Thank you for that much needed pat on the back :-) I'm of course continuing with this and will eventually send in a third file package about this business.


Would you, or the other mods, consider trying to contact plasticsmith, whom I mentioned in the Davidis thread, and, supposing that he is still alive and is game, to interview him? He must be in his seventies now and at least last time I looked he used to live in the Toronto area, where he had a small plastics business. plasticsmith is IMO relevant because he is the only (apparently sane) survivor of spook-related psychiatric abuse known to me. He appears to me to be legit, and I have been aware of him since before Alex Constantine "discovered" him and migrated his material to his own website, for reasons which I I don't care to explain in public. Supposing that plasticsmith still lives, he is an important historical witness of these atrocities.


I have been retracing the steps of Dave McGowan during the last weeks, and thinking about what this has become in size, the links and names found, this whole business of gross abuse of psychiatry and psychology by the moneyed establishment and spooks is an inseparable and undeniable part of recent American history (and the histories of many other countries), thus my astonishment at the fact that nobody, apparently apart from Dave McGowan, and that only episodically, has invested any time in investigating this issue to its roots. The US probably does not lack capable historians. The phenomenon seems far worse than the Soviet Psychushka due to its insidiousness and the normality with which it has spread to many sectors of society. My only possible explanations for the apparent lack of interest is that this is an ongoing issue and the spooks will react angrily of stepped on, and secondly, that about half of the people in influential positions whom I have found in this issue are identifiable as jews, and we know who you can't criticize, much less put near execrable crimes as these, in most of the world. The phenomenon deserves far more attention than what a few persons almost devoid of resources can give it, it should indeed receive attention at least on par with the raucous holocaust whining fest going on.
 

Laura

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Can you send me the link to the specific post or PM me with what details you have about plasticsmith?
 

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I'm just watching this interesting presentation from Dr. Colin Ross "presenting a history of CIA Mind Control Experimentation by Psychiatrists, declassified programs, case studies, controversial theories, and more":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29TZSBm-ggA

At 01:25:28 Ross starts to talk about a psychiatrist called "Louis Jolyon West. M.D.".
Here is the wikipedia article on him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Jolyon_West

From wikipedia:
Louis Jolyon ("Jolly") West (October 6, 1924 in Brooklyn, New York - January 2, 1999 in Los Angeles) was an American psychiatrist, human rights activist and expert on brainwashing, mind control, torture, substance abuse, post traumatic stress disorder and violence[citation needed].
West was according to Ross a MKUltra contractor:

From Dr.Colin Ross's slide presentation:
MKUltra Subproject 43

Invastigator: Louis Jolyon West M.D.

Status: Memoradum for the Record 21 March 1955:

"Dr.[West] is cleared trough TOP SECRET
and is aware of the true nature of the project."

Subject matter: "Psychobiology of dissociated states and of hypnosis."
Ross proceeds in explaining how Louis Jolyon West. M.D. (and another Psychologist called "Martin Theodore Orne, M.D., Ph.D" (I'm assuming that this is the right Psychologist of wich Ross is speaking in his presentation, but I could be wrong)) after they both were contracted by the CIA for Mind Control programs they became "experts on destructive cults" and Louis Jolyon West. M.D. was then on the board of the Cult Awareness foundation.

Colin Ross gave a talk on their conference (Cult Awareness foundation) in the early 90s. After his talk. Ross was escorted by the organisers into a car and then to the airport until he was checked in through the gate. The reason they did that was because the previous year the registration of the "Cult Awareness foundation" was stormed by the "children of god Cult" and "scientology". Scientology was starded by " L. Ron Hubbard" who worked for naval intelligence and the big confrontation between sociology and psychiatry was primarely between L. Ron Hubbard and Louis Jolyon West. And so scientology got upset that the Cult Awareness network, on wich Louis Jolyon West was on, was saying that scientology is a cult. So after they (scientology) stormed the Cult awarness network they (scientology) subsequently sued the Cult awarness network. And Scienology won the case because they were big and Cult Awarness lost because they were so small. So now Scienology owns the Cult awarness network...

You can listen to the whole section from 01:25:28 until 01:33:25.
 

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I'm wondering if the "Cult Awareness foundation" or "Cult Awareness network", of wich Dr. Colin Ross is talking about, is in fact the same as the one in question here on this thread?
 

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Jan Irvin interviewed Dr. Colin Ross 6 days ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_2x8Cgnlk

From 00:48:20 till 00:58:05 Ross and Irvin talk more about Louis Jolyon West. M.D. his puplications and connections and the Cult Awareness network.
 

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Pashalis said:
Jan Irvin interviewed Dr. Colin Ross 6 days ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_2x8Cgnlk

From 00:48:20 till 00:58:05 Ross and Irvin talk more about Louis Jolyon West. M.D. his puplications and connections and the Cult Awareness network.
Absolutely fascinating discussion. And we notice that Colin Ross is not a lightweight, either.
 

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After watching the Waco Texas documentary here @ SotT which brings up some of the grossest conduct of TPTB, not to mention assassination of children, lies, lies and more lies and the pathological players involved (well people know the story). Anyway, the documentary never discusses CAN, yet it is discussed here in this tread, and while searching this out, came across this archived email article listed below:

Bill Kingsbury Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:15:11 -0700

-Caveat Lector-

from Compuserve, 7/93, (c) 1993 by Ross & Greenthread which ends with "..continued", yet have not found the rest. It was written by this

WHAT IS THE CULT AWARENESS NETWORK
AND WHAT ROLE DID IT PLAY IN WACO?
_http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg23749.html

Much is contained in this thread, with a few more additions.

General Snips.

The influence of the Cult Awareness Network was made clear
by the role it played in influencing media coverage of the
siege and subsequent massacre of the Branch Davidians in
Waco, Texas earlier this year, and the role CAN-associated
"deprogrammers" played as advisors to the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) and the FBI during the siege
.

{Can well imagine what they said in their explicitness.}

[...]

What is remarkable, given the large number of abductions
that allegedly have been carried out by CAN-associated
"deprogrammers," is how few prosecutions--and even fewer
convictions--have resulted from their activities. This
virtual immunity from legal liability has resulted in a high
level of arrogance among "deprogrammers." U.S. Attorney
Lawrence Leiser, who successfully prosecuted Galen Kelly,
told the Times Herald Record in Middletown, New York: "Mr.
Kelly thinks he has the right to go out, because someone
pays him, and kidnap someone. That's incredible, and he'd
been doing it for 10 or 15 years. He admitted on the stand
that he has abducted 30 to 40 people"
(Hall, 1993).

[...]

PSYCHOLOGISTS AND PSYCHIATRISTS

{playing both sides of the fence, pointing them out under authoritative language and then attending as "expert witnesses" in court. There is a section about Dr. Jolly West & Margaret Singer here, too, and Szimhart (not reproduced).}

A handful of psychologists, psychiatrists and sociologists,
some of whom serve on CAN's board of advisors, provide
pseudo-scientific cover for these activities. They give
talks at CAN events, write articles, mostly in their own
publication, Cultic Studies Journal, and provide quotes to
the media when a "cult expert" is needed. Many of these
individuals also earn money testifying as "expert witnesses"
in kidnapping cases, litigation in which disaffected ex-
members are suing their former group or group leaders, and
conservatorship cases in which parents are seeding legal and
financial control of grown children who have joined so-
called "cults."
There is also another writer by the name of Daniel Brandt (not sure who he is) who seems to have written on different subjects and uses citations.

Cults, Anti-Cultists, and the Cult of Intelligence
by Daniel Brandt
http://www.astraeasweb.net/religion/cult.html

snip said:
The Davidians moved to Waco, Texas in 1935, and since then have minded their own business. James Wood, a professor of religion at Baylor University and resident of Waco since 1955, said that before February he hadn't heard of them referred to as a "cult." The librarian at the Waco Tribune-Herald confirmed that until their seven-part series on the Branch Davidians -- the first installment of which began one day before the initial assault on February 28, 1993 -- the Tribune-Herald referred to them as a "religious group," not a "cult."

The reporters for the series relied on "experts" from the Cult Awareness Network (CAN). A year earlier there had been allegations of child abuse, and the child protective services went to the compound, knocked on the door, walked in, and interviewed the children. They found no evidence of abuse and left.[1] But that was before CAN began playing the media like a fiddle.

Rick Ross, who was convicted of jewel theft in 1975 and boasts of more than 200 "deprogrammings," has been praised by CAN executive director Cynthia Kisser as being "among the half-dozen best deprogrammers in the country." In 1992 Ross, Adeline Bova, and CAN national spokesperson Priscilla Coates worked their magic on David Block, a group member for five years. He told them about the guns in the compound, and Ross tipped off the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF).

The affidavits supporting the search warrant used the word "cult," and BATF even adopted one of CAN's media savvy: they alerted television stations before the February 28 raid so that cameras could catch the action. It was expected to go as smoothly as those drug raids on cop shows, and might prove helpful to next year's budget.

To serve the search warrant, 100 BATF agents approached the compound on February 28. But the Branch Davidians had been tipped off and were in an apocalyptic mood, so four agents and six group members were killed by gunfire. This began a siege that lasted 51 days. CAN "experts" such as Priscilla Coates alleged child abuse, and others consulted further with authorities. CAN president Patricia Ryan recommended the use of lethal force.[2] Janet Reno and Bill Clinton picked up on the allegations of child abuse, and decided to put an end to it. This was finally achieved on April 19, when federal stormtroopers attacked again and over 80 men, women, and children perished in a fire.

During the 51-day siege, Koresh allowed 13 adults and 21 children to leave the compound. After a nine-week study of these children, the Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services concluded that there were no indications of abuse. Even while Reno and Clinton were speaking of abuse, FBI director William Sessions said that his agency had no such evidence. Coates' response was, "I know how these types of groups work and children are always abused." Within a week the press dropped the child abuse angle as effortlessly as they had hyped it. It seemed like a good story at the time.[3]

Before the trial of eleven Branch Davidians began in San Antonio, one defense attorney asked that prosecutors and their witnesses be barred from using the word "cult" during the trial because i has "negative and dangerous" connotations. The judge denied this motion, but did allow the jury to consider self-defense in their deliberations. The verdict was a mixed bag. During the trial, BATF agent Dan Curtis defined a "cult" for the court as "a group of people who live together differently than the rest of society."[4]

Meanwhile, a diverse group of activists, ranging from the ACLU to the National Rifle Association, recommended increased oversight of federal law officers, and less reliance on uncorroborated, paid informants as a basis for obtaining search warrants. NRA legislative counsel Richard Gardiner pointed out that federal agents ignored an offer by David Koresh that would have allowed them to inspect all firearms in the compound.[5] Even Soldier of Fortune magazine, which had never met a well-armed, patriotic assault team they didn't like, referred to the BATF as a "gun gestapo."[6]

But the message appears to have been lost. BATF director Stephen Higgins was replaced by John W. Magaw in September 1993, and two months later the new acting director was still determined to keep an eye on other cults: "They're out there. They don't yet have the weaponry that we saw in Waco ... but they will develop if society allows them to." Magaw said the BATF was currently keeping tabs on cults in "three or four places around the country," but declined to be more specific.[7]

The problem with the word "cult" is not that cults don't exist, nor that they should be left alone. The problem with the term, and with others like "brainwashing" and "mind control," is that they are too easy to use. Larger issues get lost when convenient labels are attached to complex phenomena, and sometimes the larger issue is more important than what the label attempts to describe. CAN, BATF, and the media all used the word "cult," and thereby obscured the fact that these were men, women, and children with civil rights. By the time everyone could see that this issue was more important than whatever weapons they were said to have possessed, it was already too late.

There is no legal or scientific basis for the use of such terms, only a broad and vague recognition that certain techniques (hypnosis, food and sleep deprivation, confinement, degradation, fear of punishment, threats of death, repetitious propaganda, peer pressure, and other forms of abuse) can be effective with certain persons as a means of lowering their resistance to stimuli. In other words, they foster authoritarian social structures in which individuals are content to follow orders. But with other persons, the same techniques may provoke opposite reactions. mere fact that orders are followed may also reflect a reasonable decision to subordinate one's individual interests to a higher ideal. And to complicate matters further, the techniques used by so-called "cults" are frequently more subtle. It's a tough call in all but the most flagrant situations. As Judge T.S. Ellis III admonished deprogrammer Galen Kelly, "One man's cult is another man's community, no matter how wacky you or I might think that is."[8]
There is much more worth reading in this article on subjects known such as Jones Town, covert warfare et al. This also is worth quoting from this arcticle:

This "strategy of tension" accounts for much of the recent history of Italy, along with other factors such as corruption and organized crime. Since the 1970s, electoral politics there has been perverted by coup attempts and nominally left-wing terrorism -- both of which, experts now believe, were covertly sponsored by the Italian secret services and the notorious "Propaganda Due" lodge run by Licio Gelli. Arms and explosives apparently came from the buried caches of NATO's Operation Gladio, and of course there were the inevitable CIA connections. Gelli himself was linked to U.S. presidents; he attended the inaugural ceremonies of Ford, Carter, and Reagan, and called himself a friend of George Bush. In July 1981, Gelli's daughter was stopped at the Rome airport and documents were confiscated from a false bottom in her suitcase. One of these was a photocopy of Supplement B. The "strategy of tension" used some of the same techniques on the entire Italian electorate that cult leaders use to manipulate their followers.[16]
 

JAFaura

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After reading Laura's post asking for advice for the forum member I did a bit of research and reached out to a friend from law school who does constitutional work. He suggested that the individual on whom the 'intervention' is being conducted document all encounters with his family or anyone else who may be trying to 'set them free'. Documentation in such cases is often quite lacking as folks do not realize the lengths to which some people, especially family members, will go. In this instance if his ex-wife has sever mental issues he would be well-advised to document that as well. Using a smart phone or small recorder to record any conversations dealing with their 'concern' should be more than sufficient.

Some of the law that deals with such issues often devolves into a he said/she said scenario and usually the individual who has the most complete documentation ends up winning. He also suggested that the individual develop a way of 'checking' in with trusted friends who know his routine so that he cannot simply 'go missing' with no one aware of it happening. If he feels threatened in any way a restraining order is not difficult to obtain, particularly if he has proper documentation.

I hope this info is of some help.
 

susy7

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Found this:
_ https://flic.kr/p/6pKqfQ


Added: Link to book pictured on above page:

Thank you for the source. I try to understand, because I can not understand what lived Cathy O'Brien, it exceeds me !! Can we really live after these descriptions? I mean from a "physical" point of view?
 
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