jasstnhawk
Jedi
GregoryJ said:
I believe 25 posts is the magic number for editing privilages ... ;D
John Major Jenkins
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I believe 25 posts is the magic number for editing privilages ... ;D
jasstnhawk
Jedi
More information about John Major Jenkins, Michael Grofe and Barbara MacLeod can be found at the JB Journeys (travel & tours) website here: _http://www.jbjourneys.com/%5Bbook%5D/itinerary
Jenkins also has other tourism interests with which he collaborates with including cruise lines, The Maya Conservancy, and Jades, S.A..
See: “Impide INAH Ceremonia Maya en Chiapas”, in El Orbe, p. A-7, _http://issuu.com/elorbe/docs/25_viernes-1/3?mode=a_p
_http://jadesmaya.blogspot.com/2008/09/tour-new-maya-cosmovision-museum.html
_http://mayaconservancy.org/blog/meso-redonda-de-izapa/
_http://www.mayaspirituality.com/uploads/4/2/2/5/4225946/izapa_2010_brochure.pdf
It seems that being the self-proclaimed "originator of the '2012 alignment theory'" can be quite lucrative.
Jenkins also has other tourism interests with which he collaborates with including cruise lines, The Maya Conservancy, and Jades, S.A..
See: “Impide INAH Ceremonia Maya en Chiapas”, in El Orbe, p. A-7, _http://issuu.com/elorbe/docs/25_viernes-1/3?mode=a_p
_http://jadesmaya.blogspot.com/2008/09/tour-new-maya-cosmovision-museum.html
_http://mayaconservancy.org/blog/meso-redonda-de-izapa/
_http://www.mayaspirituality.com/uploads/4/2/2/5/4225946/izapa_2010_brochure.pdf
It seems that being the self-proclaimed "originator of the '2012 alignment theory'" can be quite lucrative.
jasstnhawk
Jedi
Pashalis said:
Now that you mention it Pashalis, I believe you are correct. It seems I confused moving from the level of "A Disturbance in the Force" to the next level at 25 posts with the ability to edit at 50 posts.
Thank you for the correction. :)
GregoryJ
Padawan Learner
First of all, Joe has posted my response to Jenkins thus far, which we agree is a gentle yet firm nudge. JMJ is throwing stones in a glass house; he'll respond, as he does, and likely look like the bully – as he seems to be, per our collective research. No need to unsheth the sword just yet... just show a little hilt. ;)
http://www.sott.net/article/251921-John-Major-Jenkins-The-Mayans-2012-and-all-that-Jazz
This is most likely just the first wave, so keep the thread alive... like I said on FB... he's stumbled into the lion's den (meaning a vast network of those of us who Know objectivity and discernment as the breath and life of Being... the Rock over which untruth trips and falls). But he doesn't seem to realize it yet. Maybe by now he's picked up on this thread?? He seems to be VERY interested in tracking new data about himself, as we have seen and as my own research has revealed as well. We are not the first to note his "abusiveness" toward those who disagree with him. But really, it's nothing personal... we just owe to each other to keep one another one track. All to those who ask... and he surely is asking for it. ;)
Thanks, Robin for those last bits of information. It DOES help because I can pretty much see already where and what he's going to cherry-pick to discredit my observations.
And Laura,
But point taken... I'll stay better connected. :)
http://www.sott.net/article/251921-John-Major-Jenkins-The-Mayans-2012-and-all-that-Jazz
This is most likely just the first wave, so keep the thread alive... like I said on FB... he's stumbled into the lion's den (meaning a vast network of those of us who Know objectivity and discernment as the breath and life of Being... the Rock over which untruth trips and falls). But he doesn't seem to realize it yet. Maybe by now he's picked up on this thread?? He seems to be VERY interested in tracking new data about himself, as we have seen and as my own research has revealed as well. We are not the first to note his "abusiveness" toward those who disagree with him. But really, it's nothing personal... we just owe to each other to keep one another one track. All to those who ask... and he surely is asking for it. ;)
Thanks, Robin for those last bits of information. It DOES help because I can pretty much see already where and what he's going to cherry-pick to discredit my observations.
And Laura,
...yea, but then I have less time to read your material.
But point taken... I'll stay better connected. :)
GregoryJ said:And Laura,...yea, but then I have less time to read your material.
The network and its ability to support in so MANY ways is an individual's greatest resource. And each individual who is part of it needs also to keep in mind their own response-ability to support the network when needed.
Esote
Dagobah Resident
One thing to ponder with IMHO: Most people on this planet don't care at all about the Mayan calendar and its interpretations, except a bunch of New Age adepts.
If your altruist concern is "for the millions, if not tens-of-millions of credulous persons" misleaded by the theories of JMJ, there is an interesting connection between the NA Movement and the Cassiopaean Experiment, which is that they seem at first glance pretty close one to the other. Kind of two enemy brother-sisters. Which explains somehow why there is so much emphasis on the NAM's criticism amongst members of the Forum, may be.
Just a thought occurring here and there from time to time...
If your altruist concern is "for the millions, if not tens-of-millions of credulous persons" misleaded by the theories of JMJ, there is an interesting connection between the NA Movement and the Cassiopaean Experiment, which is that they seem at first glance pretty close one to the other. Kind of two enemy brother-sisters. Which explains somehow why there is so much emphasis on the NAM's criticism amongst members of the Forum, may be.
Just a thought occurring here and there from time to time...
Zadius Sky
The Living Force
Laura said:
"New Age" and "New Age Movement."
I think.
GregoryJ
Padawan Learner
Laura said:GregoryJ said:And Laura,...yea, but then I have less time to read your material.
The network and its ability to support in so MANY ways is an individual's greatest resource. And each individual who is part of it needs also to keep in mind their own response-ability to support the network when needed.
I really couldn't agree more, Laura. All that the term "Network" implies reveals the vital importance of adherence to this. It separates the wise and courageous from the lost. "Follow me and I will show you how to fish for people." Few, I feel, recognize the profound value of that statement.
Leo40 said:
Yes, Jan Irvin's work is truly impressive and revealing. I cited it in my article: http://www.sott.net/article/251816-The-2012-Collective-Shift-the-Secret-History-of-End-Times-Prophecies along with the text: "Mark my words, this is a well-planned, highly orchestrated manipulation specifically designed to distract the world from what is really going on - and the rabbit hole is likely to be far deeper than most of us realizes, or can comprehend." and accompanied as well by links to "Order-Through-Chaos..." by Andrés Perezalonso: http://www.sott.net/article/251436-Order-Through-Chaos-Who-Wants-to-Set-the-World-on-Fire- and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4 and Bernhard Guenther and Humberto Braga brilliant and illuminating film UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact http://veilofreality.com/2011/03/12/ufos-aliens-and-the-question-of-contact-%E2%98%9E-video/
GregoryJ
Padawan Learner
eoste said:
For sure, there are a lot of things like this, where things seems similar/indistinguishable (see idea vs. experience/Knowing) but are actually opposites. There are a lot of misguided, albeit sincere people out there. This is another reason why people must understand psychopathy and narcissism (self-importance), because they CAN look quite a bit similar to Enlightenment – the difference being Clarity, of course, but if the People are not clear, how would they ever know the difference?
Think about it... a narcissist can't tell the difference between himself and everything else – he is the center of the world (which is oversimplifying things, but bear with me). Likewise the Enlightened one is both the Individual ONE and the Center of the ONE Whole within his awareness. Of course that ONE Center is quite versatile and omnipresent. The problem being that many narcissist pose as "teachers", and pull it off! ...the ruse, that it. See "NAM" (I like the abbreviation, BTW).
So indeed, NAM vs. true Esoterica is the name of the game, so to speak – the polar opposites which are at a glance relatively indistinguishable. ...though to those who Know, obviously moving an entirely opposite direction.
What is relevant is: on the Path, we come up against this dynamic in many forms and all the time – it is the inbuilt trap at the gate, you see. "The camel will not fit through the eye of the needle." We must be willing to release preconceived notions or half-understandings as we pass into new Knowledge. Only herein do we Realize that Knowledge IS the Living One rather than something that "I" possess. Gate vs. trap.
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
GregoryJ said:
I think you might be missing the idea that a truly enlightened individual does not present himself/herself as such. Anyone who says they are 'enlightened' has already given themselves away. Whether that is due to pathology of some sort or just good old fashioned hypnotized ignorance is really situation-dependent.
g said:
I think that sums it up, though I would add that the internal dynamic is exactly the same and much more tricky than the external one. People lie to themselves every day about what it is they "know" and most never move past that to even the smallest degree because to sincerely question ones own thinking is too painful - that's the most fatal trap, to my understanding. I actually think the degree that one is open to following/buying into these newage hucksters/experience chasing is directly proportional to the degree that they lie to themselves about their own level of thinking/thought processes/understanding/emotions - one naturally follows the other. fwiw.
