Q: (L) Okay, Terry, we're waiting. What happened in the year 1964 and the year following? (T) In the year following I was 15. (L) Who were your friends and what kind of relationships did you have? What were you doing? (Susan) How did you feel about everybody after this event? (T) In a way, but it was not immediate. After high school. But, in those days I was mainly hanging out with some people I met over at Edison. Tom ___, a lot of people named Tom. I used to go to the lake and take drives around it at night. We just used up gas. I felt comfortable because I did a lot of things but most of the people I knew didn't get along with each other. I still do this today, I have learned from hard experience that I can't mix my friends. I learned at that time that every person in any group that had a counterpart in any other group. Groups may be different, but they all have the same make-up, and I was always "my" person in each of a number of groups. There was nobody in any of the groups I hung out with that was like me; I was that individual for several groups. (L) Is this the issue here?
A: No.
Q: (T) Does it have to do with when I got my driver's license and we all used to drive around a lot out in the country? We drove all through the lakes area...
A: Some.
Q: (T) We used to drive all through the hills out there at night... long drives. (L) Did something happen on one of these drives?
A: Maybe 0...
Q: (T) Maybe nothing. (L) What is the objective of this particular line? (T) Does this have something to do with that bizarre town I came across one night and never was able to find again? Is that tied in here somehow?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Strangest town I have ever seen. Talk about David Lynch! (J) Divulge. (T) I was driving down through southwest New York one night. I was out of high school. I used to get stoned then too, so a lot of my experiences aren't dependable because I got stoned. I went through a town one night down there in the Southern Tier, in the Finger lakes area, and it was the strangest thing. I have been through all these little towns, and there's usually people and stuff. Not a lot, but at least somebody around. It was about nine or ten o'clock, and I went through this town; it was two story buildings built right up to this 2 lane main street, with a little narrow sidewalk, and it was like driving into a canyon, and the buildings went straight up into the air. There was a street light every so far, but they were those little yellowish bulbs that don't cast much light on the street. There was absolutely nobody out there. There was nobody in any of the buildings, they were all boarded up and shut down. It looked like a town but it didn't look like a town. It went about four blocks. I came back out of it, turned around and drove through it again because I didn't believe it. I could never find it again, and I didn't know the name of it.
A: Discover.
Q: (Susan) It was the Twilight Zone... (T) Was this town...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You drove into another reality. (T) It wasn't really a town, was it?
A: Nope.
Q: (T) It gave me the willies. And, I turned around and drove through it a second time because I didn't believe it was there. (Susan) Were you by yourself? (T) Yes, I was all alone. There was nobody out there. One signal light that looked like it was out of the 1920s; old street lamps... like a ghost town, literally. (L) What are you guys trying to tell us here about Terry, through Terry? We are big kids now, we can take it.
A: Not the issue.
Q: (L) What is the issue?
A: Learning increases power.
Q: (L) Okay, what are we trying to learn here in this walk down memory lane?
A: How many times do you learn when led by the hand, network!
[Break to discuss Terry's experiences.]
Q: (L) Are we getting anywhere?
A: It's all interrelated.
Q: (L) It is interrelated with what. What event that just occurred... has it been our period of attack?
A: No.
Q: (L) The event that just occurred is private to Terry and happened in his life only?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Each of my relationships was with an individual who thought for themselves, they understood things, they had their own experiences that were different from most people, and knew that most people could not relate or understand. It doesn't have to be abduction experiences, but they have had life experiences...
A: Yes, but that is the sign of something more significant.
Q: (L) So, in other words, the fact that Terry... (T) Is it that these relationships formed and shaped who I am today because these people and I shared these different things with each other?
A: No.
Q: (L) No, I think it is the fact that you were able to form friendships with these people of all different kinds, that that was the sign of something significant. The thing that flashed through my mind is: are you a messenger, are you a catalyst?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he have something or did he do something in his interactions with these people that caused...
A: No.
Q: (L) Did any of them do something where he was concerned?
A: No.
Q: (T) Is it the fact that I am able to form relationships with vastly different types of individuals?
A: All originate from same "plane."
Q: (L) In other words, he formed relationships with others like himself? And, did they all originate from the same plane, as in somewhere else?
A: Close.