Kidney Stones

Hesper said:
That IS an interesting BTW Mac! :thup:

I was reading and found that, according to some "new research" back in August, iced tea (which I love) is a big contributor to kidney stones. Only problem was that since I decided to look deeper and find out what kind of tea, and why, I found out the study never existed:

_http://www.healthnewsreview.org/2012/08/iced-tea-kidney-stones-and-the-study-that-never-existed/

Now how bunk is that?? I have started using some kidney stone tea and have kept up with the apple cider vinegar, which has produced the most immediate soothing effect in my kidney area. I have yet to pick up Vitamin B6, but will keep everyone updated on how this turns out. Maybe I won't even have to get the surgery - that would be great!

Yeah, it's amazing how little MSM journalists do to confirm these health stories. Dr Milner probably pulled that "health tip" right out of his ear. Then suddenly it was a "study"

Started apple cider vinegar today, I pick will up some B6 next time I go to the food co-op. That would be great if your stone dissolved and no surgery. Your doctor will probably be flabbergasted.

Mac
 
Mac said:
Started apple cider vinegar today, I pick will up some B6 next time I go to the food co-op. That would be great if your stone dissolved and no surgery. Your doctor will probably be flabbergasted.

And we will be delighted ;)
 
I found this article.

Pumpkin seeds reduce calcium-oxalate crystal occurence in the urine of children.

We investigated the effect of pumpkin-seed supplementation on oxalcrystalluria and urinary composition in 20 boys age 2-7 yr from a hyperendemic area of Ubol province in Thailand. The experiment had four periods: control (before treatment), oxalate supplementation 5mg X kg-1 body wt X day-1, pumpkin-seed or orthophosphate supplementation 60 mg X kg body wt-1 X day-1, and posttreatment. Causal morning and 24-h urines were collected analyzed for crystalluria, pH, calcium, phosphorous, oxalate, creatinine, sodium, potassium, citrate glycosaminoglycans, and pyrophosphate. The results demonstrated that the longer the supplementation period of pumpkin seeds, the better were the results. Pumpkin seeds lowered calcium-oxalate crystal occurrence and calcium level but increased phosphorus, pyrophosphate, glycosaminoglycans, and potassium values in urine as compared with orthophosphate supplementation. Pumpkin seeds provide high phosphorus levels and can be used as a potential agent in lowering the risk of bladder-stone disease.
 
As a little warning, the keto-paleo-organic diet can be pretty restricitve in choice of foods and it led me to kidney stone. I did'nt actually had to pass one stone just saw the flow being restricted and started to dig about it.

The suspected culprits high in oxalate wich I was eating almost daily: Kale, Brocoli, Almonds, Pepper, Healthy doze of salt (Salt protocol for Iodine) and occasional coffe or chocolate.
Also with a low carb diet I prided myself of not needing much water. I was probably drinking 4 times less than a high carb diet if not less. Not a good idea to cut down on fluids. It is said to help pass the kidney stones and prevent the formation.
 
The kidney stones for me ended in October 2012 after 11 agonizing rounds. I started taking 150 mg B6, extra zinc and magnesium citrate. That seems to have taken care of it. Exception: In January 2015 I had a colonoscopy. In the following two weeks I had 4 rounds of kidney stones. Then they stopped again. No stones since. I am not sure why the recurrence then, maybe the prep day when I took no supplements was enough to start it again. A doctor I spoke to didn't see how the colonoscopy could be related to kidney stones.

When I am reviewing things that grateful for being free of kidney stones is near the top of the list.
I have realized that what I am most grateful for is that I exist, that I have being. Thanks to the Universe for bringing me into being.
 
I recently had a kidney stone pass, but wasn't sure so went to the emergency room. They did a CT scan and found that there is a pocket of kidney stones in my left kidney.

I went to see an urologist and she told me that there are 2 ways of handling this. I have an x-ray taken and if she can see where the stones are, she can sonic-blast them into dust. If she can't see them, she would have to run an instrument up into the kidney, and go over and down into the kidney since the stones are at the bottom of the kidney according to the last scan that was done and laser them. Because they are so low in the kidney, it could do damage to it.

So my question is, if after doing the x-ray, she cannot see exactly where the stones are and is not able to blast them, do I let her go into the kidney with the lasers and maybe do damage; or would going the supplement route and taking Chanca Piedra and Citracal be good enough to do the trick?

Heck, should I just forget the whole thing and only take the supplements?

Any help would be appreciated
 
Maybe you should try home remedies that link to this website,



Best home remedies to cure the kidney stones

Below is the list of 20 home remedies for the kidney stones which are helpful in treating them.

Drink plenty of water
Water is necessary for kidney stone natural treatment. This is the easiest home remedy for the treatment of kidney stones which cleanses the entire system. Water flushes out the toxins and stones from the body. Drinking about 10 glasses of water is advised each day for the best outcome.

Dandelion root treatment
It acts as a kidney tonic as well as a cleanser. Dandelion root is the perfect herb which can be used for the everyday treatment of kidney stones. Taking 500 mg of dried dandelion extract two times a day may help ease the symptoms of kidney stones or prevent the formation of the kidney stones. Talk to your doctor before taking this as it may interact with other medication.

Pomegranate juice
Another best remedy for kidney stones is pomegranate juice. You should take out the fresh pomegranate juice each day and you should consume it without the sugar. The astringent and sour properties of the fruit are known to give the benefit to remove the kidney stones.

Uva Ursi
This has been used as a natural remedy for removing the kidney stones issues for many years now. This helps in fighting off all the infections of the organ and it cleanses the urinary tract to ensure the prevention and cure of the stones. The dosage of uva ursi depends on various factors such as age, health and severity.

Apple cider vinegar and honey
Apple cider vinegar is successful in dissolving the kidney stones because of the acidic nature plus with the combination of the raw honey with apple cider vinegar. It has the properties to make the urine alkaline. Also, to get the best outcome, you can add 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar to 6-8 ounces of water and drink this throughout the day. People with diabetes should keep a note while taking this remedy.

Basil and honey
Basil is the tonic for kidneys. It’s one of the home remedies to remove the kidney stones from the kidneys.

Take basil leaves and extract the juice out of them
Now, a teaspoon of the fresh basil juice with some amount of raw honey
Consume this mixture at least 3 times per day
It should be taken early in the morning for the next 5 months for the visible outcomes
There are antioxidants and anti-inflammatory agents in basil juice which will help you to remove the kidney stones
Wheatgrass
Wheatgrass is one of the most effective home remedies for men to remove kidney stones. Along with the treatment of the kidney stones, taking wheatgrass juice also sorts out all the problems of the kidney. A glass of wheatgrass juice with lemon juice is a perfect way to sort out the problems. Taking it 3 times a day may increase the urine flow. Taking it on an empty stomach may reduce the risk for nausea.

Kidney beans
The high levels of fiber which are there in kidney beans are perfect for cleansing the organ and helps in the removal of the stones. All you need is to include them in your diet in small portions. They can give you the results along with many benefits of nutrients for the body.

Celery
If you take a glass of celery juice which is another best home remedy for kidney stones. Celery has antispasmodic properties but it also helps in cleansing of the toxins from the organ. The diuretic properties of celery also help.

Olive Oil
Olive oil is also beneficial for kidney stones. When the olive oil is mixed with lemon juice or vinegar, it produces an excellent drink which can cure kidney stones in very less time. It will also make you healthy from the inside and provide you with the good news regarding your health.

Baking soda
Baking soda is an ingredient which helps to remove the acidic environment in the body. This happens because stones get enhanced in the acidic environment and baking soda helps in removal of it. You can mix ½ teaspoon of the baking soda in 2 spoons of apple cider vinegar and then consume the solution twice a day after the fizz.

Warm water
It’s a kidney stone remedy warm water is best but you need to keep in mind that you should mix it with some apple cider vinegar. You can also take the warm water with honey, consume this twice a day for the best results.

Honey and baking soda
When the apple cider vinegar serves as constant in every remedy the combination of the baking soda and honey alongside to get the full benefits of the remedy. Take a big cup of water and add this ¼ teaspoon of the baking soda and good amount of the honey. Consume this as one of the natural remedies for kidney stones.

Olive oil and lemon juice
The combination of olive oil with citric acid which is present in the lemon juice is the best remedy for the treatment of kidney stones. Mix two ounces of olive oil and lemon juice, mix two ounces of apple cider vinegar in water. Now mix both these solutions and consume it twice a day.

Coconut oil
If you are wondering how to dissolve kidney stones naturally, you should try coconut oil. This ingredient can flush out the stones and protect your kidneys. Mix two tablespoons of the apple cider vinegar with an equal amount of the coconut oil. Now mix these two really well and mix them in warm water. Shake this to mix this in the oil and take it alteast twice a day.

Raw lemon juice
How to get rid of kidney stones naturally? The answer is by lemon juice. Studies have shown that consumption of ½ cup of lemon juice per day will increase citrates in the urine. This is used in the prevention of the kidney stones while flushing them out.

Extract the lemon juice from a lemon and don’t mix any water with it. Consume it raw because the citric acid will help in dissolving and breaking down the kidney stones. This is the reason why you should have this for 2-3 times a day for a quick recovery.

Lemon and sugar
If you are willing to remove the kidney stones naturally, lemon and sugar is also a solution for some suffering from kidney stones. While the raw lemon juice is good and you can also add water and sugar to make it tastier. This will help you to flush out the kidney stones quickly. This is one of the simplest home remedies.

Horsetail tea
This is one of the best home remedies for kidney stone pain. Experts also emphasize on drinking this tea throughout the day. It has proved to remove kidney stone problems.

Flavored ice cubes
Ice cubes are the perfect way to keep your body hydrated, you will also get a refreshed feeling. Try this method to make the ice cubes nutritious, take a lemon or other fruit which is effective for the treatment of kidney stones, extract the juice out of the fruit and fill the ice trays with same, freeze it to form the flavored ice cubes.

Nettle leaves
Nettle leaf tea also helps in the removing of mineral deposits from the kidneys and prevent them into becoming stones. Take about 2-3 spoonfuls of the dried nettle leaves and mix it with hot water. Let the leaves seep in and drink the solution for 2-3 times in a day.

These home remedies for kidney stones are a simple and most economical way to curb these problems. You can try these methods with your regular medications to get faster results.

In other words, switching to a healthy diet full of fresh fruits like lemon and pomegranate, cutting down on soda, processed foods and alcoholic beverages will definitely keep you away from problems such as kidney stones. Also, consult a doctor if these home remedies are not helping you treat kidney stones.
 
I saw a video a few years ago in which a naturopath consulted another, a colleague, about his kidney stones and was recommended liquid corn silk extract made with alcohol (I have some by Hawaii Pharm LLC, made in Hawaii, USA, easily found/ordered online). He said he was astonished that it resolved his stones within just a few hours, and never would have known about it otherwise, so vast is the field of natural herbal healing. It's hearsay and they may be wrong, of course, or it could have worked in this particular instance, but such an inexpensive experiment would be worth it if feeling that kind of pain.
 
I have experience because my son now 15 has been suffering from this disease practically since he was about 2-3 years old. The disease started earlier and was not detected until he was about 3 years old. When he was 4 years old he had his stones smashed with ultrasound waves in one of the best children's specialist hospitals in Warsaw (military hospital), then at the age of 6 he returned to the clinic for another stone smashing. Due to a doctor's misdiagnosis of the reason for kidney stone formation he had to undergo the procedure again. The key was to examine the composition of the kidney stones, and my son was diagnosed with calcium oxalate forming a stone in his left kidney, and in his case it helped to take vitamin D3 and magnesium daily, which the wise doctor understood and recommended for use. Till date there has been no relapse and the left kidney has not formed stones for about 10 years. I advise you to first examine the composition of the stones, then a wise doctor must apply the appropriate therapy and it does not have to be expensive. I know personally a man who at the age of about 50 years underwent a similar procedure to break up the stones with ultrasound, but the composition of the stones was completely different than my son, and it was urate stones. The stone smashing procedure is done under anesthesia and lasts 45-60 minutes depending, but I know it is not recommended to do it in adults more than 1 to 2 times in general because the better thing is a proper diagnosis as to the cause and then prevention, whether it be diet or vitamins. For your information I will add that my son's stone was about 12 mm in size at the age of 3 and his kidney length was at 70 mm, o caused attacks of renal colic and he could spend 5-6 hours in the arms of my wife and his mother and not shed a single tear. I am not a doctor, but I sincerely sympathize with your pain, as I know it is very painful and the only remedy during the attack before they flared up was simple decongestants to lower the pain level. This is just my experience as a father of a child with kidney stones and I am in no way giving medical advice, but I sincerely hope that my child's case will help you with your pain and suffering. If you see fit to ask anything I will answer to the best of my experience, knowledge and ability. Kind regards Nienna.

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