Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Also, even though it's from the right-wing Breitbart, here's more evidence of bias by the moderator;

Moderator bias: Lester Holt exclusively asked Trump 15 questions during presidential debate, while only asking 2 questions to Killary

A close analysis of the transcript of the first presidential debate on Monday night shows that moderator Lester Holt of NBC News asked 15 questions exclusively of Republican nominee Donald Trump, and only 2 questions exclusively of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

The analysis, posted on social media and drawing intense attention on Reddit, walks through the entire 90-minute exchange and notes Holt asked six questions of both candidates, in addition to Trump's 15 and Clinton's two.

Holt, a newcomer to presidential debate moderation, faced intense pressure from the Clinton campaign and the mainstream media to be tough on Trump. Some explicitly called for Holt to "fact-check" Trump — the implication being that Trump is more ignorant or dishonest — and implied that he would face the same fate as NBC's Matt Lauer and Tonight Show host Jimmy Fallon, both of whom were slammed by liberal media critics for the crime of treating both candidates fairly.

Moreover, most of Holt's questions prompts were overly friendly to Clinton's point of view, while hostile to Trump. In one of the last exchanges of the debate, for example, Holt strongly implied Trump was a sexist when asking about a past criticism he had made about Clinton lacking a "presidential look." He also introduced the opening topic of the debate by praising Obama's economic performance, ignoring the fact that growth never reached 3% under Obama and labor force participation has fallen.

Breitbart News noted that Holt intervened several times to "fact-check" Trump — often erroneously — while never checking Clinton's facts, even when she was completely wrong, as in her claim that she had never flip-flopped on the Trans-Pacific Partnership. In addition, the Washington Examiner's Eddie Scarry notes Holt asked Trump six follow-up questions, and none of Clinton, leaving Trump "having to debate the highly anticipated event's moderator as well as his Democratic opponent."
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Timótheos said:
Laura said:
loreta said:
Maybe people also are fascinated by a woman who 2 weeks ago was almost dying in front of them and now look, she is so perfect, so alert, so magnificent in her words and attitude! A woman who was so sick and now seems so in good health, a SUPER WOMAN.

And wearing a POWER RED suit!!

And Trump with his soothing blue tie.

Interestingly, on electoral maps, Republican states are shown in red, whereas Democratic states are shown in blue (although it wasn't always this way). Symbolically speaking, perhaps this is a way of showing that candidates from both political parties are cut from the same cloth! ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

I think it's customary that during the first presidential debate the candidates wear the colors of their opponent. Obama and Romney did the same thing in 2012, or so I've heard.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Another Hillary Clinton mystery man was on the job last night, and this guy is called the “Cleaner.” He swooped in right after Hillary walked away from her custom podium, and what he did next proves that Hillary was in cahoots with moderator Lester Holt. Hillary’s “Cleaner” was caught red-handed, and what he did with Holt when they thought the cameras weren’t watching is shocking voters across the country.

Clinton Debate ‘Cleaner’ Swoops In, Proves Hillary Cheated (Photos - video)
_http://madworldnews.com/clinton-debate-hillary-cheated/

It’s just a few seconds of video, but it is a few seconds that changes everything. A Hillary staffer, who is called the “Cleaner,” swooped in after she walked away from her podium, and he took all the papers that were on her podium. He put her notes in a file and carried them under his arm as he looked over at moderator Lester Holt.

The Cleaner then walked to the side of the stage, not sure of where to go. He waited for a moment until Holt got up, and then the “Cleaner” started to walk toward Holt. They met at mid-stage as the “Cleaner” looked intently at Holt.

Holt’s face cannot be seen in the clip, but as they brushed past each other, the “Cleaner” seemed like he wanted to hand over the notes to Holt, but then he just nods. Again, it’s just a few seconds, but when you watch it from the time the “Cleaner” swoops in and clears Hillary’s podium to when he walks over to Holt, it is evident that something fishy is going on.

Howie Kurtz, a Fox media anchor, had this to say: “For all the debate about Lester Holt and would he fact check and so forth – the most aggressive questions from the NBC moderator, the most attempts at fact checking, the most interruptions were all aimed at Trump….I don’t think there’s any question about it.”

When Lester Holt used the mainstream media talking points, alleging Donald Trump told Howard Stern that he thought the Iraq war was a good idea in 2003, that told me everything. Trump’s statement to Stern was a nothing remark. Joking around with Stern, all Trump said in passing was, “I don’t know, whatever, maybe it’s a good idea.”

The real evidence is what Trump said at that same time in 2003 to Neil Cavuto and Sean Hannity in serious interviews, where he absolutely said he thought the Iraq war was a very bad idea. However, that false talking point, that Trump was for the Iraq war, can be traced right back to the Clinton campaign and proves to me that Holt was getting his marching orders from NBC and Hillary Clinton herself.

Trump didn’t have a “Cleaner” after he walked away from his podium, and whoever Hillary’s “Cleaner” is, one thing is clear, Hillary is consistent in lying and cheating the American people. She can employ as many “Cleaners” as she wants, but she will never be able to wash away the blood of so many, like the four heroes in Benghazi. No, that blood can never be washed away from Hillary’s hands.


Donald Trump claimed on Monday that he was given a faulty microphone during the first presidential debate.

'They gave me a defective mic': Trump lashes out over supposed mic issue
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-defective-mic-debate-2016-9

"They also gave me a defective mic," the Republican presidential candidate told reporters in the spin room after the debate at Hofstra University in New York. "Did you notice that? My mic was defective within the room."

He continued: "Was that on purpose? But I had a mic that wasn't working properly. But overall, I thought it was a great — and if you look at your polls, they're through the roof."

It was not immediately clear what issue the real-estate magnate was referring to, but some observers online noted that Trump appeared to be sniffling during the debate.

There was no immediate public evidence that Trump's microphone was tampered with.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

I just watched a video that appears to show Killary signalling Lester Holt with her hand on several occasions. There are points in the debate when she looks like she wants to make a comment on a certain topic and then uses the same specific gesture of scratching beside her nose with her finger and then looking at the moderator for confirmation.

Could be something, could be nothing. For the record...

https://truthkings.com/poker-pro-video-proves-hillary-signals-lester-holt/#
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Pepe Escobar has a good article about the first debate:

https://sputniknews.com/columnists/20160927/1045757443/us-clinton-trump-debate.html

Mother Superior VS Ranting Schoolboy

The temptation is irresistible to conceptualize the Clinton Machine’s strategy going into the first US presidential debate; let Donald Trump metastasize into a pretzel. Mission not impossible; in fact, accomplished.

Sniffin’ and slidin’, beepin’ and sippin’, angrily chokin’, even swoopin’ on the mike to choreograph a blow, “Donald” (as addressed by “Secretary Clinton”) fell for every shape and size of bait thrown by a canny, relentlessly focused and rehearsed-to-death, Yale-trained, Lawyerly Mother Superior. Freud, Jung and Lacan must have shed tears of joy in their heavenly pad watching the Ego-unraveling show.

While Secretary Clinton controlled the debate, Donald could not even control his temper; but this being The Donald, it did not prevent him from launching an out of left field self-elegy to his “temperament”. The latest installment of the longest job interview on the planet, played out in a deep blue stage with white stars featuring an American eagle with an – out of place — olive branch, may have qualified as wild, wacky TV at its apex.

Yet on the Donald front it was mostly painful to watch. Stream of consciousness non-sequiturs ruled, as in, “I have a son who’s 10, he’s so good with computers” — running commentary on US cyber-security vulnerability. But then, from a global public opinion point of view, there’s geopolitics – something that vastly infantilized swathes of Americans consider at best a big, meaningless word. Yet Secretary Clinton herself was keen to emphasize, “words matter”.

So let’s see how (and if) geopolitical words made sense at the Trump/Hillary cage match.

Trump defuses WWIII

Donald demonized mostly China (on trade) and Iran, while Secretary Clinton forcefully demonized Russia and Iran. North Korea and terrorism were also on the cards; thus both sides amply paid tribute to the Pentagon’s top five 21st century “existential threats” to the American eagle.

Trump’s view of China seems to come from someone reading Sun Tzu on LSD; “You look at what China’s doing to our country in terms of making our product, they’re devaluing their currency and there’s nobody in our government to fight them… They’re using our country as a piggy bank to rebuild China, and many other countries are doing the same thing.”

Beijing is not practicing quantitative easing (QE); actually it’s the US, Japan and Germany who do.

Unfortunately Donald did not elaborate on climate change; a November 7, 2012 Trump tweet ruled that global warming was invented by China to devastate the US manufacturing industry.

On the other hand Trump may have — indirectly — validated China’s One Belt, One Road (OBOR), a.k.a. The New Silk Roads, which are all about infrastructure upgrading; “You land at La Guardia, Newark, L.A.X., and you come in from Dubai and Qatar, you come in from China, you see these incredible airports, we’ve become a third-world country.”

Donald blamed Secretary Clinton for turning Iran into a “major power” – a shtick that may have been written by dodgy casino mogul Sheldon Adelson (in the audience, and courted like a monarch). He described the Iran nuclear deal as “one of the worst deals made by any country in history”, insisting “$400 million in cash” were part of the deal, and Hillary’s responsible. Donald knows it because “I met with Bibi Netanyahu the other day”.

China and Iran are related in varying degrees to the New Silk Roads and of course the pivot to Asia, which was first announced by Hillary. So she had to say, “I want to reassure our allies in Japan and South Korea and elsewhere that we have mutual defense treaties and we will honor them”. Crucial add-on; “Our word is good”. Asians, as demonstrated in the last G20 in China, are not impressed.

On NATO, Trump said the Atlanticist monolith must engage in direct counterterrorism operations in the Middle East. NATO actually has a Defense Against Terrorism program for 12 years now. The problem is the priorities are regime change – from Libya to Syria; keeping the heroin flowing from Afghanistan; and not giving a damn about “moderate rebels”.

Trump did promise to make NATO follow the money: “They have to understand I’m a business person”. Allies “are not paying their fair share.”

Secretary Clinton went no holds barred emphasizing Trump has been “praiseworthy of Vladimir Putin”. Trump: “Wrong”. He could have qualified, if he was not sniffin’ so hard; in a March 20 debate, Trump said, “Putin is a strong leader, absolutely. He is a strong leader. Now I don’t say that in a good or bad way. I say it as a fact.”

It went virtually unnoticed. But Trump, in one sentence, actually may have ruled out WWII if he becomes President; “I would certainly not do first-strike” – as in the official US doctrine, reiterated by Obama, that guarantees a US first nuclear strike. Secretary Clinton did not comment.

I want my Pyongyang Tower

Donald seems to have found a solution to North Korea; “You look at North Korea, we’re doing nothing there. China should solve that problem for us. China should go into North Korea. China is totally powerful as it relates to North Korea.” Crucial add-on; Iran also “has power over North Korea”.

Now imagine a three-way summit involving Xi Jinping, Ayatollah Khamenei and Kim Jong-un debating Trump’s deal, which might throw in a Trump Hotel and Casino Pyongyang for good measure.

Secretary Clinton was adamant that “Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Trump: “Wrong”. Actually, right; he did, already in 2002. But “that is a mainstream media nonsense put out by her!”

Trump Donald was adamant that “President Obama and Secretary Clinton created a vacuum for ISIS.” Actually, Hillary might have been “fighting ISIS your entire adult life”. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn has not briefed Donald properly; he meant al-Qaeda in Iraq – which sprang up as a direct consequence of Bush’s “Mission Accomplished”. Its spin-off, ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, fully emerged only in 2014, when Hillary was already out as Secretary of State. So Donald was not able to explain how the emergence of ISIS was a willful decision taken by official Washington.

It was on the theme of cyber-attacks on the US that Secretary Clinton finally managed to – subtly — conflate the Pentagon’s three “existential threats” who happen to be closely involved in Eurasia integration; Russia, China and Iran.

Expanding in one sweep from cyberspace to Full Spectrum Dominance, she said, “whether it’s Russia, China, Iran, or anybody else, the United States has much greater capacity. And we are not going to sit idly by and permit state actors to go after our information, our private sector information or our public sector information.”

Donald stressed, “whether [the DNC hack] was Russia, whether that was China, whether that was another country, we don’t know”. Technically correct. That did not prevent Secretary Clinton from doubling down; “I was so shocked when Donald publicly invited Putin to hack into Americans. That is just unacceptable.”

Highway to Hell

So, in a nutshell, Donald may have landed only two good blows; on NAFTA and dodgy trade deals, an on the absolute mess in the Middle East exacerbated by Obama/Clinton. Nothing though on the Clinton Foundation – which benefits handsomely from Persian Gulf direct/indirect supporters of Salafi-jihadism.

In the end, do all these words matter, as Hillary herself stressed? Hardly. An alleged victory by knock down in the first debate may be just a blip in the race. Secretary Clinton won’t conquer new votes beyond the “basket of deplorables” spectrum as much as Donald won’t conquer new votes among white-collar whites.

We might as well have seen the sanctimonious Lawyerly Mother Superior expelling the sniffin’ and slidin’, rantin’ and whinin’ billionaire schoolboy bully from class – to some variant of highway to hell. But next time he won’t be so easily pretzelled out. In this most irrational of political contests, stream of consciousness may even have the last word; “I have better judgment than she does…

There’s no question about that. I also have a much better temperament than she has, you know? I have a much better – she spent – let me tell you – she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising – you know, they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names – oh, temperament, let’s go after – I think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not have a…”
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Aeneas said:
Pepe Escobar has a good article about the first debate:

https://sputniknews.com/columnists/20160927/1045757443/us-clinton-trump-debate.html

Mother Superior VS Ranting Schoolboy[...]

I think "Mother Superior VS Ranting dumb Schoolboy" is exactly what most people thought during and after the debate and I think it was meant to come across exactly that way by the PTB.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

The Escobar piece was covered by SOTT on Tuesday:

https://www.sott.net/article/329448-The-presidential-debate-Mother-superior-vs-ranting-schoolboy
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

I noticed the POOP. It was not meant to be that way, it was just Trump’s head covering up most of the line ‘rights of the people’ and the closer view which truncated the word People to ‘Peop’, which looks close to POOP for those that are a little vision impaired. Now Hillary had this line showing above her head which made it more legible. It seems to me that this was setup this way because all that comes out of Trump’s face is … you guessed it POOP. But I regress, sorry …

Now onto Trump, what can I say, he acted like a 10 year old at times. He either attacked someone or he ended up talking about money. Hillary was too perfect, can you say setup because I can say it. She was very rigid to say the least. She could stand in a single position, I noticed the letter over her right shoulder was precisely held in this location may times and for durations of time. Kind of like she was being held up by 4D STS folk. You have to wonder what they did to her to make her this rigid. There was no STO in either of them, but that was expected.

I was kind of waiting for a rock to come down on the debate myself. There was so much electronic equipment and loads of STS in the air, I felt that it was inevitable or at least possible. On a personal note I had to take a shower after watching the event live on TV. I had trump and Hillary all over me, and it was disgusting. Haiku …
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Hillary's Teleprompter inside debate podium and Cleaner Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os5fe-ADtZA

Hillary Clinton's podium appears to have been outfitted with a special light that Donald Trump's didn't have. The light could have been functioning as a teleprompter to feed Hillary answers. There were multiple people paying attention to her podium after the debate and they were clearly tampering with something.

Especially a man I call the cleaner man who approached her podium on 4 occasions and was either picking up items or putting something in probably doing a swap from a tampered device to the original legit device. A proper name for this event would be #PodiumGate.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

angelburst29 said:
Hillary's Teleprompter inside debate podium and Cleaner Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os5fe-ADtZA

Hillary Clinton's podium appears to have been outfitted with a special light that Donald Trump's didn't have. The light could have been functioning as a teleprompter to feed Hillary answers. There were multiple people paying attention to her podium after the debate and they were clearly tampering with something.

Especially a man I call the cleaner man who approached her podium on 4 occasions and was either picking up items or putting something in probably doing a swap from a tampered device to the original legit device. A proper name for this event would be #PodiumGate.

I can't see the light the guy is talking about at the beginning. Where exactly does he see that? As for the cleaner man and the other guys working at her podium, what they do there can indeed give the appearance of doing "something nobody should notice". Could be too much reading into it though...
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Pashalis said:
angelburst29 said:
Hillary's Teleprompter inside debate podium and Cleaner Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os5fe-ADtZA

Hillary Clinton's podium appears to have been outfitted with a special light that Donald Trump's didn't have. The light could have been functioning as a teleprompter to feed Hillary answers. There were multiple people paying attention to her podium after the debate and they were clearly tampering with something.

Especially a man I call the cleaner man who approached her podium on 4 occasions and was either picking up items or putting something in probably doing a swap from a tampered device to the original legit device. A proper name for this event would be #PodiumGate.

I can't see the light the guy is talking about at the beginning. Where exactly does he see that? As for the cleaner man and the other guys working at her podium, what they do there can indeed give the appearance of doing "something nobody should notice". Could be too much reading into it though...

Between the 2:27 - 2:48 minute mark in the video - a younger guy takes something out of the middle of her podium. As he's walking away, he's holding something in both hands - that appears to be made of metal. Immediately after, another guy checks her podium and removes "something small" which you can notice he is carrying with one hand. After the debate - nothing was taken away from Trump's podium - not even papers.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

angelburst29 said:
Pashalis said:
angelburst29 said:
Hillary's Teleprompter inside debate podium and Cleaner Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os5fe-ADtZA

Hillary Clinton's podium appears to have been outfitted with a special light that Donald Trump's didn't have. The light could have been functioning as a teleprompter to feed Hillary answers. There were multiple people paying attention to her podium after the debate and they were clearly tampering with something.

Especially a man I call the cleaner man who approached her podium on 4 occasions and was either picking up items or putting something in probably doing a swap from a tampered device to the original legit device. A proper name for this event would be #PodiumGate.

I can't see the light the guy is talking about at the beginning. Where exactly does he see that? As for the cleaner man and the other guys working at her podium, what they do there can indeed give the appearance of doing "something nobody should notice". Could be too much reading into it though...

Between the 2:27 - 2:48 minute mark in the video - a younger guy takes something out of the middle of her podium. As he's walking away, he's holding something in both hands - that appears to be made of metal. Immediately after, another guy checks her podium and removes "something small" which you can notice he is carrying with one hand. After the debate - nothing was taken away from Trump's podium - not even papers.

The guy talks about a light right at the beginning of the video, that was what I was revering too and you quoted as well. I still can't see it.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Pashalis said:
angelburst29 said:
Pashalis said:
angelburst29 said:
Hillary's Teleprompter inside debate podium and Cleaner Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os5fe-ADtZA

Hillary Clinton's podium appears to have been outfitted with a special light that Donald Trump's didn't have. The light could have been functioning as a teleprompter to feed Hillary answers. There were multiple people paying attention to her podium after the debate and they were clearly tampering with something.

Especially a man I call the cleaner man who approached her podium on 4 occasions and was either picking up items or putting something in probably doing a swap from a tampered device to the original legit device. A proper name for this event would be #PodiumGate.

I can't see the light the guy is talking about at the beginning. Where exactly does he see that? As for the cleaner man and the other guys working at her podium, what they do there can indeed give the appearance of doing "something nobody should notice". Could be too much reading into it though...

Between the 2:27 - 2:48 minute mark in the video - a younger guy takes something out of the middle of her podium. As he's walking away, he's holding something in both hands - that appears to be made of metal. Immediately after, another guy checks her podium and removes "something small" which you can notice he is carrying with one hand. After the debate - nothing was taken away from Trump's podium - not even papers.

The guy talks about a light right at the beginning of the video, that was what I was revering too and you quoted as well. I still can't see it.
Hi Pashalis, this video focuses on the light if I have understood correctly what you are asking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzTeRZ9M_lU
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

birk said:
Pashalis said:
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The guy talks about a light right at the beginning of the video, that was what I was revering too and you quoted as well. I still can't see it.
Hi Pashalis, this video focuses on the light if I have understood correctly what you are asking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzTeRZ9M_lU

Excellent find, Birk! It shows the light on Killary's podium and might be the hardware that the third guy removed and carried with both hands?
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

2 things:

FOX News reported tonight that officials have acknowledged that Trump's microphone for the debate was "not working properly", in that it was turned up very loud (for TV broadcasts, not the audience). This is why he was heard sniffing. which lead to former Vermont Governor, Howard Dean's outrageous claim that Trump had been snorting cocaine (Trump never drinks alcohol or smokes cigarettes!). If this high volume was intentional, I'd assume they wanted him to sound more bombastic than usual.

Saw this video contending fairly convincingly that Hillary signaled the moderator, Lester Holt when she wanted an opportunity to insert a rehearsed "zinger". See what you think.
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEvQZuo1VMo
 
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