Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election

Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

I didn't support trump for 9 months, until about April, then I warmed to him just a little. I understand the system is really screwed up, but I suppose I am more of a moderate republican but I don't call myself that. Its just that I liked Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, and Jeb Bush in the primaries. Each for different reasons really.

But one reason I like Trump is purely selfish. I am at a College Campus, and I am so unhappy with the culture. I live In a really nice town, In way northern California. I love the area, and the people. The students on university are at war with the county. They say that it is racist, and that racism is common place outside of the school. And they constantly talk down the place, and the people, and publish the worst things in our school paper. I don't see it at all. I constantly see blacks talking to whites, and I think people of all backgrounds are much more integrated here than in the city. If Trump wins, I will feel very smug and happy, because it will be a defeat of these people, a self-inflicted defeat, of the those that are constantly stoking racial strife and tensions.

The other reason I like trump is about foreign policy. I think in the next 4 years will be horrendous no matter what, because of our debt, and our unsustainable spending obligations. For that reason it doesn't matter who is president, or what administration we have, either would have to reckon with the same thing. We could see all manner of economic and resultant social chaos. But at least we would not be at war with Russia I think with Trump.

What I also find interesting, is my brother, who is like and old school socialist, a reader of Roussseau and Henry George. He was enthusiastic about Sanders. We have had all manner of political debates over the years. Somehow he became in the last couple months a bigger Trump advocate than me, and I poke fun at him for that, and I just can't believe it.

But what is happening with the fbi at the moment? One reason I turned away from conspiracies a couple years ago ( meaning my interest in them waned) is because I realized that despite the deplorable situation America is in, there is many good people in government, dedicated public servants that want the best of the American people. the recent actions of the fbi support this hypothesis of mine. The reason America has prospered since the 80's is largely because of our military, which props up the dollar as the global reserve currency. Even if I object to this state of affairs, I am also indebted to it as an American. In any event, I think the American Empire is winding down and coming to an end, and you could say that is good, but it will be a dramatic adjustment for our country.

If Clinton is elected, I believe she will be impeached quickly. So this is really an interesting juncture. If Trump wins there will be massive fallout of another kind, not in the congress and the courts, but among the people in the streets. In either case, I'm very worried about the stability of the next few years, about my future as well.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Alada said:
axj said:
Yes, I think it comes down to perception and our intent behind the choices we make. That decides what kind of reality we choose.

There is a difference between blindly believing in the system and seeing that one of the two may offer a higher chance of not starting a war, opening people's eyes, etc. That is actually one thing that shouldn't be discounted about Trump: whether or not he wins, he brought many important issues such as the extent of political corruption and media propaganda to the awareness of millions of people.

It brings this session snippet to mind, about the importance of seeing things are they are. Not believing negatives to be a positives or of negligible effect.

Laura said:
Session 9 April 2011

Q: (L) Well, I guess we can try asking some questions. Let me see the list. Hold everything! Pause! {Stops to read over list of questions.} Ok, I have a series of questions that have been written out here. The first one is; why have we all been feeling so inflamed/low on energy/depressed/irritable for the last two weeks?

A: Cosmic changes in process. Each person experiences this differently according to genetics and environment. Recall previous sufferings preparatory to DNA boosts? All must keep vigilant about diet and psychic hygiene during this time as there are also external factors that seek to block the natural process.

Q: (L) Does this have anything to do with our super-moon dance?

A: Indeed. And recall that the universe is about balance. After each period of suffering there is always joy.

Q: (Burma Jones) What do they mean by “psychic hygiene”?

A: Being careful about what you allow into your ”field”.

Q: (L) In what sense?

A: All senses.

Q: (L) What do you mean “all senses”?

A: Seeing, hearing, speaking, and so on

Q: (Ark) So, uh, I will tell a story about this “using all your senses”. A few days ago, I went out and I almost had an accident. I was driving on the interior peripherique - on the lane that was closest to the middle. There are three lanes. There was a guy behind me who was very unhappy that I was driving only 90kmh. He was swaying from left to right, trying to get past me and I could see it in the rear-view mirror. I looked to the right and realized I cannot do anything, because there was a car. I could see it.

So, I stayed. After about two minutes, you know, the one behind me again starts to act impatient behind me. But then, I look in the mirror again and the car to the right is gone. So I figure he must have moved somewhere else. Then I started to do {Ark makes descriptive hand gestures showing his driving maneuver} – only the car was there exactly in the right angle [to be in the blind spot.] But, uh, he was a young guy and he was fast. He steps on the brakes – and nothing happened, you see? I usually do not do such things. I was thinking very fast and that he must be gone, but I was not 100% sure. So, I should have waited until I was 100% sure. So, of course nothing happened, he just got upset.

A: We have more in mind. Take care with interacting with negative energies.

Q: (L) Well that’s kinda like creating your own reality, isn’t it?

A: Not what we mean… Keep your guard up and do not allow negative energies to slip by… such as believing lies… listening to negative music while thinking it is positive…watching negative movies and thinking it is negligible. It is extremely important to not lie to the self. One can listen or watch many things as long as the truth of the orientation is known, acknowledged, and understood. Clear?

Q: (L) So, in other words: awareness. Calling a spade a spade and not allowing something negative to enter you and believing it is positive. You can see it, perceive it and acknowledge it but not allow it to influence you. Because obviously, you cannot shut off your perceptions of the world, but you can control how it affects you. So, don’t let it inside, thinking it’s something that it’s not.

(Belibaste) So, see it as it is. If it is negative, see it as negative.

(L) Yeah, and they’re saying to focus on truth in order for changes to manifest in you that are positive. That is, “positive” can mean acknowledging that something is negative because it is truth.

Q: (Galatea) Choose the seeds you wish to water.

(L) Is that basically what we’re talking about here?

A: Yes

I think this goes both ways: not believing negatives to be positives and not believing positives to be negatives or of negligible effect. Again, the exposing of many important truths to the whole country through Trump should not be taken as negligible.

Is he a perfect leader? Of course not, but neither is Putin, as the C's have said. Putin has been very capable when it comes to foreign policy, but much less so in domestic affairs, especially since the price of oil went down.

I think it is good to see the shortcomings of leaders and the system clearly, but at the same time we cannot wait for someone perfect and need to weigh the positives and negatives and draw a line somewhere.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

The following video was published on 24.10.2016 and has almost 3 milion views. It explores some of the direct connection of Huma Abedin (Hillary Clinton's longtime -- and arguably closest -- aide) and Killary, to Saudi Arabia and other Islamists and the connection to 9/11:


All just coincidence of course :pinocchio:
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Both Clinton and Trump will be holding Election Night events in New York City.

I can see it all now - fireworks and aerial detonations, riots in the streets, mass chaos and NYPD out in full force with riot gear?

Hillary already planning her giant victory celebration
http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/hillary-planning-election-night-fireworks-show-on-hudson-river/

This could blow up in her face!

Hillary Clinton may have lit the fuse for her victory celebration a little too soon — by planning an Election Night explosion of fireworks over the Hudson River, The Post has learned.

Law enforcement officials and the FDNY have been told to prepare for a barge-launched pyrotechnic display off Manhattan’s Javits Center, where Clinton and running mate Tim Kaine will join their supporters for the Nov. 8 vote count, sources said.

The aerial detonations would last for two minutes, with the triumphal celebration permitted to start as early as 9:30 p.m. — a mere half-hour after the polls close in New York, sources said.

But the Democratic presidential nominee’s blueprint for lighting up the sky was sketched out before last week’s revelation that the FBI had revived its probe of her private email server scandal.

That move followed the discovery of a huge cache of emails that top aide Huma Abedin left on a laptop computer that her now-estranged hubby, Anthony Weiner, may have used to sext with an underage girl in North Carolina.

Republican rival Donald Trump has since surged in the polls, with the Real Clear Politics National Average showing him trailing by just 2.5 percentage points Monday.

The FDNY memo ordering its Marine 1 company to provide stand-by protection for the fireworks show was sent out Friday — the same day FBI Director James Comey alerted Congress that agents would check to see if the new emails contained any classified information.

The memo, obtained by The Post, also reveals that Clinton’s campaign hired Garden State Fireworks to put on the show — an ironic choice, as its resume includes the grand opening of the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, NJ.

Cops and firefighters were blown away by Clinton’s hubris in planning the fireworks display, which would eclipse the shower of blazing sparkles that preceded the balloon drop at July’s Democratic National Convention.

“It’s a little presumptuous of her to plan on winning. I guess she put in for this before Friday,” one NYPD detective said.

Others said the actual election results could put a damper on things, but one firefighter raised the specter of a 2000-style recount and added, “So what’s she going to do, put the fireworks on ice?”

Another source wondered: “If she loses, will she take it over to the East Side and sell it to Trump for half-price?”

A retired firefighter said the FDNY’ s “rank and file is outraged they are being forced to do political work.”

“This will make it seem like the firefighters endorsed Hillary,” the source said.

The only fire-related union to back a candidate is the Fire Marshals Benevolent Association, which endorsed Trump.

Meanwhile, the fact that both Clinton and Trump will hold Election Night events in New York City — marking the first such coincidence in modern history — is creating an unprecedented security challenge for law enforcement authorities, sources said.

In addition to protecting both candidates and their running mates, there are fears of violent clashes “breaking out in the streets” between supporters on either side.

“We’ve seen during the campaign that there have been fights at rallies across the country,” a law enforcement official noted.

Clinton’s campaign didn’t respond to requests for comment.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

I had another thought...

The Boston Bomber people have been quiet lately.

If Hillary wins, future scripted events might take on a different character, one painted as internal unrest. Such events could easily be characterized as angry Trump supporters.

If Trump wins, such social engineering could instead be used to accelerate any plans toward eliminating Semitic blood lines. -If he buys into that narrative.

Also.., the events transpiring in Standing Rock currently hold a lot of public attention on social media, if not the MSM. That such a standoff looks like it will not conclude before it crosses the boundary between the current leadership and the next may serve as an indicator -or even a kind of catalyst- of things to come within any psychological atmosphere shift now approaching. -Worth watching to see how truncheon power responds to the perception of what sort of behaviors the new leadership will approve of and upon which they will model themselves.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Woodsman said:
If Trump wins, such social engineering could instead be used to accelerate any plans toward eliminating Semitic blood lines. -If he buys into that narrative.

Woodsman, I know you're just speculating, but please try to have at least some reality in your speculations. Why would Trump "buy into" eliminating Semitic blood lines? Do you know that his own daughter married a Jewish man and converted to Judaism?
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

axj said:
Woodsman said:
If Trump wins, such social engineering could instead be used to accelerate any plans toward eliminating Semitic blood lines. -If he buys into that narrative.

Woodsman, I know you're just speculating, but please try to have at least some reality in your speculations. Why would Trump "buy into" eliminating Semitic blood lines? Do you know that his own daughter married a Jewish man and converted to Judaism?

"Semite" means a great deal more than "Jew".

I assumed that was generally accepted knowledge around here, but I can understand why clarification might have been needed given the charged nature of the term.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

angelburst29 said:
Both Clinton and Trump will be holding Election Night events in New York City.

I can see it all now - fireworks and aerial detonations, riots in the streets, mass chaos and NYPD out in full force with riot gear?

Hillary already planning her giant victory celebration
http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/hillary-planning-election-night-fireworks-show-on-hudson-river/

This could blow up in her face!

Hillary Clinton may have lit the fuse for her victory celebration a little too soon — by planning an Election Night explosion of fireworks over the Hudson River, The Post has learned.

Law enforcement officials and the FDNY have been told to prepare for a barge-launched pyrotechnic display off Manhattan’s Javits Center, where Clinton and running mate Tim Kaine will join their supporters for the Nov. 8 vote count, sources said.

The aerial detonations would last for two minutes, with the triumphal celebration permitted to start as early as 9:30 p.m. — a mere half-hour after the polls close in New York, sources said.

But the Democratic presidential nominee’s blueprint for lighting up the sky was sketched out before last week’s revelation that the FBI had revived its probe of her private email server scandal.

There’s certainly potential for a lot of double meaning there, makes you wonder if events could indeed "blow up in Hillary’s face". How would it play out if some major event happened after the polls closed but before a result were announced, a 'state of emergency' and then business as usual for Obama?
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

This guy makes the case that the Elite had wanted Trump all along. Perhaps that is true or partially true as it could also be a late plan or it could show that there are power struggles within the ruling elite.
_http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/why-us-presidential-election-has-entire-world-confused

Why The U.S. Presidential Election Has The Entire World Confused

by Tyler Durden


Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

Well, everyone thought it was a sure thing — Hillary Clinton had the White House in the bag; the entire political system from the DNC to the RNC and the mainstream media had already called the election over and done. Online gambling sites listed Clinton as a sure bet and Irish site Paddy Power even paid out one million dollars on the assumption of a Clinton win. And then, one Weiner ruined everything — Anthony Weiner.

The revelation of an October surprise re-opening of the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s misuse of classified data on private and vulnerable email servers does not come as a shock to me, but it certainly does to many people around the world. Hundreds of mainstream outlets are scrambling to spin the news as misconduct by the FBI rather than a victory for the halls of justice. Numerous alternative media analysts are rushing to cover their butts and admit that there is now a “chance” of a Trump win. Confusion reigns supreme as the weirdest election in U.S. history continues to bewilder observers.

The first issue that needs to be addressed is the lack of an open mind displayed by some when it comes to the real purpose behind this election. The second issue here, of course, is one of timing.

Through the majority of this election cycle the public consensus has been that Clinton will win. Some argued that Trump would not be able to compete with the leftist media empire standing against him, while others have argued that the entire system including the Republican establishment would ensure that Trump would fail. The alternative media has in the past simply pointed out that elections have always been rigged, either by the elites playing both sides of the competition, or through outright voter fraud. They have assumed that the elites want Clinton, and therefore, the election has already been decided.

I tend to agree with the latter point of view, though I disagree with the conclusion. U.S. elections are indeed controlled, and have been for decades, primarily through the false left/right paradigm. However, as I have been pointing out since I correctly predicted the success of the Brexit referendum, I don’t think that Clinton is the choice of the elites.

I outline my reasons for this conclusion in-depth in articles like '2016 Will End With Economic Instability And A Trump Presidency', published in August. For the past several months it seems as though I have been the only person holding the view that Trump will be president. Only in the past few days have I received emails from readers stating that they used to think I was probably crazy, but now they aren’t so sure…

To be clear, my position is that Trump is slated to take the White House and that this is by design. This has been my position since before Trump won the Republican Primaries, it was my position when the election cycle began, it has never changed, nor have my views on the reasons for this outcome ever changed. Of course, the election is not over yet, and if Clinton ends up soiling the already thoroughly soiled Oval Office with her presence, then everyone can color me confused as well. That said, here are some issues that I think many people are overlooking when coming to conclusions on the election and the events surrounding it.
Clinton Is The Worst Candidate The Elites Could Have Chosen

I have been studying the activities and behaviors of establishment elites for over a decade and I have to say… they are not stupid. They certainly have hubris, and I would not call them “wise,” but they are definitely devious. They know how to rig a game. They know how to play both sides. They know how to cheat to get what they want when it comes to politics and how to manufacture consent from portions of the public. They’ve been doing it a long time. They have mastered it.

So, in my view it is rather insane for the elites to field a candidate such as Hillary Clinton IF the entirety of their globalist empire hangs in the balance (I don't think it does). Though she is fond of BleachBit, the woman is unbleachable. With a decades-long rap sheet from her work at Rose Law Firm (in which document destruction and “misplacement” was apparently routine) to her interference with investigations into Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions, to the strange odyssey surrounding her lies on the Benghazi attack, as well as her rampant mishandling of classified documents as head of the State Department, not to mention the Clinton Foundation’s pay to play scandals, it is impossible to endear her to the masses. Her dismal crowd turnouts are rather indicative of this.

On top of all this, Clinton’s anti-Russia rhetoric is coming off as absolutely crazy, and I think this is by design. Many in the alternative media, while assuming that Clinton is paving the way for WWIII, forget that the average person may not be up to speed on the same information we are, but most of them aren’t ignorant. Clinton’s ravings on Russian hacking and potential war are even putting liberals off rather than inspiring their confidence.

One would think that if the elites have their veritable pick of any politician to represent their interests in the White House and convince the American public to go along for the ride, Clinton would be the worst choice. Even if the intention were to rig the election in favor of Clinton, she would be a lame-duck president the second she took office, and, her mere presence would galvanize conservatives to the point of mass rebellion.

This is not generally how the elites play the game. Instead, they prefer co-option to direct confrontation.
Which President Is Better For The Elites During An Economic Breakdown?

If you consider the premise that Clinton is NOT the chosen one, and that the entire election is theater, the situation changes rather drastically.

Those that follow the underlying economic data that the mainstream tends to ignore know that large swaths of the global financial system are not long for this world. With Europe’s banking system plunging towards a Lehman-style event, the OPEC production freeze deal ready to fall apart yet again, and the Federal Reserve threatening to raise rates into recessionary conditions in December, our already floundering fiscal structure is approaching another crisis.

My question has always been who would the elites rather have in office when this crisis occurs? I’ve said it a hundred times before and I’ll say it again here: with Clinton in office, globalists and international financiers get the blame for any economic downturn. With Trump in office, conservative movements will be blamed. In fact, I suggest anyone who doubts this scenario watch stock market reactions every time Trump rises in the polls or Clinton faces renewed scandal. The narrative is already being prepared — a Trump win equals a market loss.

For those that think it outlandish that the public could be tricked into blaming Trump and conservatives for an economic crisis, I suggest they consider that possession is nine-tenths of the law in the minds of many. People can also be irrational when facing financial ruin. I would remind readers that history is written by the victors. The globalists plan to be victorious in the dismantling of America and our founding principles. Whether or not they succeed is really up to average conservatives and liberty proponents, not Trump.
The FBI’s Move Prepares The Way For Trump

Clinton and the DNC argue that FBI Director James Comey’s announcement of a re-opened investigation is politically motivated. And they are right, sort of. The real motivation, I believe, is that Clinton was never meant to win the election in the first place, and that the elites want Trump placed in power during the final hours of the U.S. economy. Everything else is just a Kabuki dance.

The democrats are crying foul and accusing Comey of “working with Putin,” or working with the alt-right. The nefarious Harry Reid has even accused the FBI of hiding Trump’s supposed ties to the Russian government and violating the Hatch Act.

I think much of this outrage is real, as I believe much of the mainstream media attacks on Trump are coming from people who really think they are waging a propaganda war to get Hillary Clinton elected. This, however, does not mean that the elites plan to install Clinton.

Some might see my position as bizarre. I understand. But equally bizarre to me are some of the rationalizations people attempt to argue when dealing with the Comey revelation.

For example, the argument that the entire re-opening of the investigation is a complex ploy designed by the establishment to distract away from the Wikileaks data dumps. This makes little sense. If anything, the re-opening investigation is only bringing MORE attention to the Wikileaks data, not less. If the elites were hoping to create a distraction, they failed miserably.

The FBI’s announcement ONLY harms the Clinton campaign. Period. Even if it fizzles out, even if they announce that nothing was found, the investigation hitting the news streams so close to election day refocuses all public attention back on Clinton’s corruption and will continue to do so for the next week at least. The idea that the elites hope to use it to help Clinton is nonsensical.

I have also seen the argument that Comey is acting to cover his own posterior, perhaps because of a fear that Trump may steal away a victory. I find this equally absurd. Months back the consensus among alternative analysts was that Comey (placed in the FBI by Obama) was a traitor and the FBI was a puppet agency of the establishment. Now, suddenly, Comey is worried about a possible Trump win and so takes an action which might self-fulfill the prophecy?

Comey does what he is told. The FBI is an owned and operated elitist franchise. They do not go rogue. If the rogue FBI narrative were true and Comey actually feels the need to cover his bases with Trump, then it is only because he knows something the rest of us do not. With Clinton in office, his goose would be cooked after this little incident. Comey only gains an advantage if Trump is slated to win.
Trump May Or May Not Be Aware Of The Plan

The bottom line, according to the evidence I have seen in terms of elitists influence over U.S. elections, is that if Trump wins it will only be because they wanted him to win. The FBI firestorm this past week appears to support my view and we still have another week left for further Clinton ugliness to be revealed. I also expect that if Trump wins, the reaction from conservatives and liberty activists will be that the event was a “miracle,” a shocking upset against the establishment. Much like the reaction to the Brexit referendum. I continue to hold that conservatives and sovereignty champions in Europe and America are being set up to take the fall for a coming global destabilization.

I have not taken this position just to be contrary. If I think about it honestly, my position is truly a losing position. If I am mistaken and Clinton wins on the 8th then I’ll probably never hear the end of it, but that’s a risk that has to be taken, because what I see here is a move on the chess board that others are not considering. If I’m wrong, then I’m wrong.

That said, if I am right, then I still lose, because Trump supporters and half the liberty movement will be so enraptured that they will probably ignore the greater issue — that Trump is the candidate the elites wanted all along.

If I am right, I cannot say either way if Trump is aware that he will be a potential scapegoat for the elites. With Trump on the way to the White House I can guarantee a Fed rate hike in December. Imagine what a staged war between Trump and the Federal Reserve will do to the U.S. dollar? What a way to destroy the currency's world reserve status and make way for the IMF's Special Drawing Rights! I also suspect that widespread rioting is on the schedule as well from various social justice mobs; a perfect excuse for expansive martial law measures, don’t you think?

The point is, as horrifying as a Clinton presidency might be to conservatives (or to everyone), don’t get too comfortable under Trump. The party is just getting started and our vigilance must be even greater with a conservative White House, because, like it or not, everything Trump does is going to reflect on us. We can no more allow unconstitutional activities under Trump than we could under Clinton. If you think the election has been chaotic and confusing so far, just wait until after it is over.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Interesting Aeneas, thanks for sharing.

I came across this video on facebook, shared (and endorsed?) by RT's Peter Lavelle, which I found totally creepy:


Yes, he says a lot of true things. But the video also ommits all the problematical (to say the least) aspects of Trump. Notice also that he talks about the 'movement', the same term the Nazis used. Really, just replace a few words (like 'international establishment' with 'international Jews'), and you come close to Hitler's speeches. Plus all the melodramatic music and images...

It reminds me again of this session:

Session 16 Oct 1994 said:
Q: (L) "His mouth was like that of a lion..." What does mouth represent and why is it like a lions?

A: Noisy and boastful.

Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to manifest?

A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about a new world order?

Q: (L) The United States?

A: Close. Elements of same.

Q: (L) "One of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound, but his death stroke was healed and the whole earth went after the beast in amazement and admiration..." What does it mean that one of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound?

A: Aliens.

Q: (L) The aliens will seem to be a deadly wound to the Beast?

A: Initially.

Q: (L) "But his death stroke was healed, and the whole earth went after the Beast with amazement and admiration..." What does this mean?

A: Initial fear gives way to worship and admiration.


Q: (L) "They fell down and gave homage to the dragon because he had bestowed on the beast all of his dominion and authority..." Who is this dragon?

A: World Body Politic.

Q: (L) And who is this Beast?

A: New World Order aka Brotherhood aka Lizzies aka antichrist.

Q: (L) "The Beast was given the power of speech uttering boastful and blasphemous words and was given freedom to exert his authority and exercise his will during 42 months..."

A: Timing is open. Power of speech is self explanatory in terms of audio and video media.

Q: (L) "And he opened his mouth to speak slanders against God blaspheming his name and his abode even vilifying those who live in heaven..." Does this mean that this group, this beast are going to...

A: Disseminate disinformation with respect to encouraging worship, loyalty and obedience to antichrist.

Q: (L) "He was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people and to overcome them and power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people and every tongue and nation..." Does this means trials and tribulations of those who refuse to submit?

A: No. See previous answer.

Q: (L) "And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation of the world..." What are "those whose names are recorded in the Book of Life... what is the Book of Life?

A: Supercomputer.

Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who are going to worship the Beast are names that have not been recorded... does that mean that there is a supercomputer recording the names of those who do not worship the beast?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?

A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient or disobedient.

Q: (L) Who is this "Lamb?"

A: Beast.

Q: (L) "If anyone is able to hear let him listen: whoever leads into captivity will himself go into captivity; if anyone slays with the sword, with the sword will he be slain... herein is the call for the patience and fidelity of the saints (God's people)... "Who are God's people?

A: All.

Q: (L) What does it mean: "Whoever leads into captivity will go into captivity?"

A: Follow the leader.

Q: (L) If they follow the leader they will become captive and if they fight with the leader they will be killed?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) "Then I saw another Beast rising up out of the land; he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke like a dragon..." What does this signify?

A: Other faces of the same entity.

Q: (L) What does it mean that he had two horns like a lamb? A lamb doesn't have horns. Why does it say he has horns?

A: Confusion by contradiction.

Q: (L) And what does the lamb represent?

A: Same face of the Beast.

Q: (L) What does it mean he "spoke like a dragon"??

A: Same.

Q: (L) "He exerts all the power and right of control as the former beast in his presence and causes the earth and those who dwell upon it to exalt and deify the beast whose deadly wound was healed and worship him..." Well, it seems to say that there is a second beast that is different from the first beast but you are saying that it is just another face of the beast...

A: Yes. Look at it this way, aliens one face; God another; government another et cetera.

Q: (L) Did you mean to say that God was another face of the beast?

A: As represented by religion.

Q: (L) "He performs great signs, startling miracles, even making fire fall from the sky to the earth in men's sight.." What does that mean?

A: Aliens perform "miracles".

Q: (L) And what is the "image" of the Beast?

A: Aliens.

Q: (L) What does it mean to have been wounded by the sword and still live?

A: Perceived as scary then Godlike.

Q: (L) "And he was permitted to impart the breath of life into the Beast's image so that the statue of the beast could actually talk and to cause all to be put to death that would not bow down and worship the image of the beast." What does this mean?

A: Total control once deception is complete.


I could be wrong of course. But I think we should be very vigilant now - it's easy to be so fed up with the system, the Clinton gang etc., fall for cheap rhetoric, and ignore other important bits of data in the process.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Aeneas said:
This guy makes the case that the Elite had wanted Trump all along. Perhaps that is true or partially true as it could also be a late plan or it could show that there are power struggles within the ruling elite.
_http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/why-us-presidential-election-has-entire-world-confused

Brandon Smith attributes a god-like power to the elite. Smith also thinks Russia's moves are also guided by 'the globalists' and that it is no different from the U.S. He's ignoring a whole lot of data, context, and not seeing how events unfold. See Sott's comments on his article here. It seems there is an effort to take down Killary now, but for the majority of the campaign the force of the media as well as the political establishment was behind her. Seems they couldn't prop her up anymore, and as Niall said in a recent Focus, she's a liability.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

luc said:
[...]

I came across this video on facebook, shared (and endorsed?) by RT's Peter Lavelle, which I found totally creepy:


Yes, he says a lot of true things. But the video also ommits all the problematical (to say the least) aspects of Trump. Notice also that he talks about the 'movement', the same term the Nazis used. Really, just replace a few words (like 'international establishment' with 'international Jews'), and you come close to Hitler's speeches. Plus all the melodramatic music and images...

[...]

Very interesting! Curious, curious, to say the least. Notice closely what Trump says at 44 seconds into the video:

https://youtu.be/nF0YpXcZw9U?t=44s

Here is it in text form:

Trump said:
This is not simply another 4 year election, this is a cross roads in the history of our civilization, that will determine whether or not, we the people, reclaim control over our government...

Those are almost exactly the same words Killary used, even in the same sequence and meaning, here:

Pashalis said:
Here is the full thing:


There is one statement from Killary that stood out for me especially and nobody seemed to have noticed. Which is kind of strange in itself. It starts at 02:03:05 in the video above.

She says:


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/us/politics/transcript-second-debate.html?_r=0 said:
So I believe that this election has become in part so — so conflict-oriented, so intense because there’s a lot at stake. This is not an ordinary time, and this is not an ordinary election. We are going to be choosing a president who will set policy for not just four or eight years, but because of some of the important decisions we have to make here at home and around the world, from the Supreme Court to energy and so much else, and so there is a lot at stake. It’s one of the most consequential elections that we’ve had.

And that’s why I’ve tried to put forth specific policies and plans, trying to get it off of the personal and put it on to what it is I want to do as president. And that’s why I hope people will check on that for themselves so that they can see that, yes, I’ve spent 30 years, actually maybe a little more, working to help kids and families. And I want to take all that experience to the White House and do that every single day.

What did she just say there, at the end of the debate? She says that this time is different and that the new president will set the policy not just for 4 or 8 years!? What? What does she mean by that and what does she know from her PTB handlers, that would let her make such a statement?
What do they plan, or know, to make something like that happen?

Did she just blurb something out nobody is supposed to know at this stage? The agenda of the PTB?

Normal procedure is that after 4 years of presidency, there is another (s)election, in which the new president is voted for. The normal term of a president is 4 years, after that it can be expanded by another (s)election for another 4 years. So what does she know that makes her say/know that this president will already set the policy for the next 8 years and beyond? What is up with that?

Sounds to me that she said something there, that she wasn't supposed to blurb out. Or the PTB wanted her to blurb that out, to see what the reaction (if any) from the public is, about such a announcement. Sort of a tes: "Will they just swallow it? Will anybody even question it?".

It is beyond me that no political analyst has even questioned this most peculiar and strange statement as of yet.

The above strongly suggest to me, that both Killary and Trump have the same text writers, and that the PTB behind it are openly telling the public and both candidates "you [or the powers behind it] will be in power, for longer then the usual term". Great dictator, anyone? So maybe both are so eager to become that "man in chief", because they can be that person? We should also remember that there were serious rumors that Trump studied Hitler closely. So maybe both get the message from the PTBs , that they will become "the next Hitler"?

Weather or not this is what the PTB really plan to do, is another question, but it is surely highly interesting that Killary, as well as Trump, say almost the exact same thing about this "special election" that will determine the route for the US and our civilization, for a long time.

What if we can translate it as follows:

Trump said:
This is not simply another 4 year election, something will interupt, that will make our power hold much longer, this is a cross roads in the history of our civilization, that will determine whether or not, we the Psychopaths, reclaim full control over our government and the world...

So, is what we are seeing, the final move of "the aliens" taking over the US and the world, in full blown fashion, that will ensure also that that "Holocaust dry run", will not remain a dry run and the open world fascism can finally implemented?
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Pashalis said:
luc said:
[...]

I came across this video on facebook, shared (and endorsed?) by RT's Peter Lavelle, which I found totally creepy:


Yes, he says a lot of true things. But the video also ommits all the problematical (to say the least) aspects of Trump. Notice also that he talks about the 'movement', the same term the Nazis used. Really, just replace a few words (like 'international establishment' with 'international Jews'), and you come close to Hitler's speeches. Plus all the melodramatic music and images...

[...]

Very interesting! Curious, curious, to say the least. Notice closely what Trump says at 44 seconds into the video:

https://youtu.be/nF0YpXcZw9U?t=44s

Here is it in text form:

Trump said:
This is not simply another 4 year election, this is a cross roads in the history of our civilization, that will determine whether or not, we the people, reclaim control over our government...
Yes, it is hardly surprising that they almost sound the same, with as Pashalis notes having almost identical scriptwriters. They belong after all to the same party, that of the elite.

In listening to the video that Luc posted, I got the feeling that it was modelled on the speech by V in the film "V for Vendetta". Yes, the elite will not let an opportunity go to waste, if is serves them to fool the people one more time.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Aeneas said:
This guy makes the case that the Elite had wanted Trump all along. Perhaps that is true or partially true as it could also be a late plan or it could show that there are power struggles within the ruling elite.
_http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/why-us-presidential-election-has-entire-world-confused

Pretty much what I've been saying. And notice I compared Trump to the Hitler "clown" scenario VERY early in this thread. Everybody was calling him a clown, all the conservative authorities were against him, but he won anyway and only afterward, did people learn by inference from the process of history, that Hitler was WANTED by all of them to do what he did.
 
Re: Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Why is nobody asking those two "candidates" what exactly they both mean by "this is not a normal election, but a special one, that will already determine/set the policy, for at least the next 4 to 8 years"?

It is beyond me, why nobody in the "free media" asks that simple and obvious question, that arises from their statements there. At least that would certainly be a interesting question to ask, one would think. How is that compatible with the so called "democracy" in which people supposedly live in the US?
 
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