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Q: Hi Laura, first of all thankyou for your nice conversation with us and can you explain to us what does it mean; what of the changing of the diet , what do you recommmend for that and what do you think for the vegetarian, because here I think there are lot of people there are vegetarian. Can you just explain what does it mean, exactly that.
L: How about this, why don't I just suggest some books for people to read and then they decide for themselves, because I'd rather that people would read the research, than.. I know what the cassiopaeans have said about this and we got some recent sessions from last year on the topic. You know since I started experimenting with the diet, let me tell you back in 2004.. How many people here where at our workshops in 2004? Ok you where here, we got 1,2,3,4. Ok I would like for each of you to stand up and describe the difference between me then and me now, for the rest of the people.
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WP1 (workshop participant) : I suppose you mean physically.
L: yeah
WP1: Well the first time I met you , you looked like 15 years older than you look to me now. So for me it's seems like ,,,
L: Ok that's good enough. What about over here. Cause I better not say it myself, listen
WP2: I met Laura in 2004 and basically as he said she looked 15 years older than she does now, and when I see her now it's like reversed aging, she's gone through the process where she looks much younger and healthier than she did in 2004.
WP3: I as well would say definatly that she has gone through an age reverse, but also I noticed: you know in 2004 the way she walked ,,, compared ,,, there is more strength also ,,, sizewise
L: I lost weight
WP3: definetly age reverse and seeing her there is more colour in the skin.
L: Ok that's enough. 3 out of 4 is not bad. But the point is ok that was in 2004. I was deteriorating at that point, like I said I've was with rheumatory arthritis all my life and the pain(?) of it was getting worse and worse and I was trying to do everything I could possibly, tried to ,,, condition. And the in 2005 we went to Trieste in Croatia (Italy) to a congress. And the first night there at the hotel in Trieste I turned and moved in bed, I swear to god , all I did was turn over. I didn't do anything weird, I did'nt jump, jerk or pop anything and I herniated a disc to my head (?) I don't know if any of you have tried a herniated disc but let me tell you what; that will turn you into a screaming animal, backed into a corner you know. 'Don't come near me' cause thats how bad it hurt. And hoteldoctors, neckbraces ,,, trip, lots of drugs ,,, got home - nothing touched it. It was just really horrible and the finally I just broke down as I was trying to go with just pain medication. I broke down and the doctor put me on major high doses of Cortizon. And the next day after I took this I was cleaning the garage, dancing around and I felt great. I thought 'Holy ....' You know I feel like a 20 year old with this medication, and I thought about it. Cortizon is the most powerful anti-inflammatory they make, especially in the doses they were giving to me, it was probably the ,,, anybody. Not only was it my neck, my low back, it was my knees, it was fingers it was my head... I mean I could even think better. And I said to myself: obviously anything that is wrong with me is inflammation, because an anti-inflammatory fixed it. Problem is: what was causing the inflammation, and that's what started me researching.
And I continued to research and I was making these little changes here little changes there. Joe could tell you, 'What diet are you on this week?' So I was tryin different things and it still wsn't getting me to where I should be going even though I was getting somewhat better. Because at this point my shoulder my shoulder just completely went, I had so much pain in my shoulder. If I were sitting like this I wouldn't be able to reach out and pick up this glass. I couldn't do it, it was like 'arrrr'. I was really a cripple. So it's ,,, for people. I had trouble dressing myself, all I could do was sit in front of my computer and write.
So I ended up having surgery because I was in so much pain that I had no choice. Because at this point they were giving me Cortizon injections directly in to my joints a couple of times, it was a really long needle. I went in and had micro-surgery done and I came out of the hospital, I felt fine, my shoulder didn't hurt any more. Ok, great. But the unfortunate thing was that the brain fog set in. And I really got to the point where I couldn't speak a coherent sentence. And I thought: I depend, what I do is figure things out and if I can't construct a coherent sentence I'm in really deep doo-doo. Throw me out the window ,,, . So it scared the begeebees out of me. So I started researching, and I found out that a lot of the drugs they put into me while at the hospital having surgery plus a lot of the stuff that I'd been eating throughout my life plus allt the other surgeries I had, because this was my sixth major surgery was toxic waste in my body. And I thought at first ther's not anything to do about it, I toxified myself I might aswell just die.
Then I found out that you can reverse toxicity but that it's a process. So I started reading books on it, I got an Infra-Red sauna blanket. I started changing my diet, making adjustments this way and that way. All these different things, this went on for a period of a couple or 3 years and I would get to be much better. I'll tell you right now that cutting out all of simple-carbs and all gluten containing products probably had one of the most profound effects on my body than anything else. At that point I could sit at my desk that my legs swelled so bad that they were like little shiny sausages, that I had to go lay down and put my feet up again. So, I read about the evils of dairy and gluten and sugars. So I cut those 3 things out, and I used the Infra-Red sauna blanket for one week, and at the end of the one week all of the swelling in my legs was gone and to never come back, never. You know you go to the supermarket and you see the old ladies with their ankles that swell and fall over their shoes, and think that 'oh my God I don't want that to happen, that's awful' but that's where I was.
So I did that, and continued going on and then last year we'd been playing about with a modified paleo-diet, we were eating like meats and plenty of vegetables, everything except; nothing with gluten, nothing with sugar, nothing with dairy. But it was still a pretty varied diet. And then last christmas, and my son, you know everybody in the house we were experimenting on ourselves and he was eating this and I kept pushing 'eat more vegetables' and he kept having problems, this irratable bowel syndrome and it just kept getting worse and worse and I kept thinking, eat more vegetables, eat more vegetables and pusing it and pushing it. Then finally the day after christmas he ends up in the hospital, he had such an infection in his insides, he's 25 years old and they want to take his colon out. And we went into talk with the gastro-entrooligist and we said; he has to have a colonoscopy, we don't want you to take his colon out, put him on ,,, go in and see what you can do, we have to make some decisions here. So 3 days before you can get a colonoscopy you have to get your colon cleaned out, how do you get a colon cleaned out? we have to be on a special diet. What diet do you eat to clean your colon? you know what he said?
What do any of you think to you need to clean your colon? Meat! No vegetables. If you have a colonoscopy you can not have a single vegetable before you have it done. This gastro entroologist sat there and told me that. And I said all of this stuff that people say about eating fiber for keeping your colon clean, is bull? 'Oh but you still need to eat vegetables', but your telling me that you don't eat vegetables to do a colonoscopy eacuse it cleans your colon and stops the irritation, that's what your telling me. A gastroenterologist in a hospital, trained by a medical school is telling me this. And he says 'yeah', and I couldn't understand the disconnect. This man is telling me what he knows from his medical trainng, he doesn't want to go into a colon that's all inflammed and dirty, no gastroenterologist wants that, you know, they want clean. And they know how to clean it and they know what stops irritating it. they know this because they are trained and then they turn around and 'Oh but you got to eat your vegetables'. So 14 days or maybe 16, almost three weeks of 2-3 times (a day) the most powerful anti-biotic known to man, through his veins, cause he couldn't take anything through his stomach. Saved his colon, came home. And he started eating meet, we're watching this. Were all round the house, and were still this ' totally healthy, must eat your vegetables'. We're watching this kid, and he started out on veal just little, just tiny bits, remember he hadn't had anything in his stomach for 16 days. so a little bit of veal. You know what do you normally eat when you haven't eaten in days, they tell you to have ,,, or rice cereal, but if we gave him that he started bleeding again. This was like the 'canary in the mine'. So we watched him and he just got better and better and better and we started doing some research and that's where we got on to this whole paleo diet thing, and we were reading all theese books. This information was there all the time, it's just that we weren't looking for it, we weren't ready to receive it. We were still ' Got to be holy by eating vegetables' kind of thing.
So this was back in, by the time we all got convinced by my sons example, beacuse he litteraly can't eat anything else, he litteraly can't. We have a little leeway he has none, he cannot. So we started around april, right around first of april we all took on to this paleo diet, and I mean litteraly eat almost nothing but meat, we eat no grains, we eat almost no vegetables, we may have vegetables once or two times a week, maybe we have a little sald or something. We don't eat any brocolli, no cruciferous, no cabbage. And I'll tell you something that'll freak you out, if you eat nothing but meat you have almost no stool, no stink. And you no longer have any gas whatsoever. You have no bloating and you eat less.
You want to read the books, there is a book called 'primal body, primal mind' she also talks about in that book about rejuvenation research; that a appearantly a very high fat, moderate protein diet can cause the telomeres on your DNA to repair and can reverse the aging process. People have been known with a white beard to have it turn back to it's normal colour again after going on these particular diets. That's all I can tell you. We don't eat to be pure and holy just so you know that, we eat to optimize our health. Because how can you do anything for humanity, how can you do anything for yourself if you're not healthy and ,,, . Next
A: I want to ask something.
L: He does have to have the last word.
A: I get some discussion with vegetarians or vegans and I notice that people that are vegetarians consider themselves as very peaceful people. You know like in India, it's a peacefull country, everything you achieve by non-aggressive methods, so everybody considers themselves being less aggressive than meat eaters. However what I observe is that the vegetarians is not that peaceful if you start to question his vegetarian thesis(?)
L: I'll tell you that the articles we've published about paleo diet and basically against the vegetarian way of life, I have never in my life encountered such a provocation of violent invectus as those articles. I mean every vegetarian on the entire internet zeroed in on that, and in their posting their nasty, I mean it was unbelievable, it was worse than smoking! In pro-smoking articles we get every anti-smoking weirdo comes along and flames us. Sorry I'm not into the publishing thing because it's popular, I'm in the business because the research supports it. Next
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At the pace you are going, with my free time today, should I just transcribe the last 15 minutes? ;)
