Learning to Walk

Sorry to be redundant here, but I have been fox walking all day today and it's fabulous. I can feel my glutes getting worked on when i walk like this, and my calves, and a little in my low, low back.

Now, this speculation here might be outright nonsense but here it goes:

If you read the "squatting" thread, you know of the physiological benefits, so to speak, when you bring the legs up toward the chest in that way, how it works and all that.

My speculation is that the way you have to bend the knee and bring the leg up in the fox walk, as opposed to a locked knee and the leg not coming up in the cow walk,

sort of does what squatting does, only to a lesser degree. Like I said, maybe i'm just making a ridiculous connection here. But the reason I am thinking this is because today at work,

fox walking the whole way through, I experienced some flatulence. This is quite rare for me, and my brain suddenly made the correlation between fox-walking, squatting, and the way the legs

need to come up for both. So, am i onto something, or just being crazy and weird again?? That's the best I can explain it. :)

Quite frankly, I think that collection was directly beamed in Alexander Mc Queen's head by the 4D STS..

I agree!
 
Like I said, maybe i'm just making a ridiculous connection here. But the reason I am thinking this is because today at work,

fox walking the whole way through, I experienced some flatulence. This is quite rare for me, and my brain suddenly made the correlation between fox-walking, squatting, and the way the legs

need to come up for both. So, am i onto something, or just being crazy and weird again??


:lol: :lol: Better out than in! After reading this thread, I paid attention to my gait, and found out that, yes, I'm still walking on the front ends of my feet. Whether this is from contractions in the muscles on the backs of my legs or a return to how I walked from childhood, I don't know. ;)

You may find that the older you grow, the more common flatulence will be. ;D
 
You may find that the older you grow, the more common flatulence will be.

Heh, maybe.

On a side note, the more i hear older people tell me that this and that happens when you get older, the more it encourages me to do this health-stuff so I don't end up as a

grumpy, hump-backed, energy deprived bag of wrinkles. :lol: (not that I'm mentioning anybody I know :))

But really, the thought of not being able to jump and run and be strong and flexible JUST BECAUSE I GET OLDER is not desireable. Screw that, dude! :lol:

Gotta get this detox going more...
 
Wow, I didn't realize that I'm fox walking most of the time.
Few years ago I was inspired by this man in his 70's, with whom I did the job of moving household. Just the two of us - we moved all the heavy furniture, fridge ect. onto the truck and into another house. He didn't wear any shoes. It was winter and it started snowing (yes, it snows occasionally here).
I noticed, that snow and cold didn't bother him. When asked about shoes, he simply said: I haven't worn shoes for 50 years !
I thought: 70 years old, in top condition - walking barefoot can't be bad. And I was taught since childhood to always wear socks and shoes or I catch the cold !

So I started discarding shoes. Little by little I stopped wearing them. Last year and a half I only wore them to work (when lucky - not too often).
I now find shoes sooo uncomfortable, it just doesn't feel right to wear them. As soon as work is finished and shoos are off - there is always: aaah.
Last winter I found that as long as I'm moving (walking) cold isn't a problem. Only when I stop it can get uncomfortable.
When walking in the bush fox walking is natural. I just didn't know there was a name to it.

In the last few months I noticed, that walking on the wet grass in particular (during or after rain) feels somewhat energizeing. Can't describe the feeling exactly, it kind of makes me smile happily, feels like I'm cuddling the grass with my feet - I just love it.

I guess, it saves money too - I don't think I'll buy shoes ever again.
I highly recommend walking barefoot whenever possible.
The only downside is that I had to get used to strange stares and kids pointing fingers at me.
 
A very good article, thank you Arctodus for posting it.

We feel and even think with our whole bodies, and the constant pressure, shearing and pain that the “cow walk” puts us through with every step eventually seeps into our attitudes, beliefs and outlooks.
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There is nothing mystical at work here; any creature in constant pain will begin to develop a sour disposition.

I think I can confirm this. ;) One of my biggest complaints for a long time was chronic body pain. Basically my whole body; feet, legs, back, neck, wrists, shoulders, etc., constantly hurt. Looking back to about 4-5 years ago when I first went to a Rolfer, I can easily see how my daily general attitude has improved a lot. Previously the norm was high irritability, impatience, and at times, a nasty personality. Let's just say that things have improved quite a bit since then. :)

The mythical dualism of “mind” and “body” deadens us to the effect such ubiquitous, constant pain can have.

Yep. Or to put it another way, when you are dissociated from your body you block out the full awareness and feeling of this pain, which interferes with growth. And as the situation persists, it worsens; who wants to "return" to such a broken body?

My feet hurt, and this chronic pain was growing in intensity, making even simple walking painful.

As it was for me, although walking wasn't my big issue, it was my wrists because I work in computers. However it was my feet that brought the issue to the forefront of my consciousness. One day I was walking in flip-flops as I had many times before. Except this time I guess I finally really paid attention to, gave thought to, the sounds I was making. It was basically *thwap* *THWAP* *thwap* *THWAP* ... and so on. Whenever my right foot struck the ground, it made considerably more noise then my left foot and finally caught my attention. Through that experience, I started to pay a lot more attention to my body, and how I use it. My "walk" is not over yet, but things have gotten much better.

We might say with regards to fox walking that in times of universal pathology, walking like a healthy human being will draw a lot of attention.

I agree with this. Myself and several friends of mine have noticed that by sitting up straight you will garner more attention. I can also say the same in reverse. I have walked into a crowded restaurant or watched a movie showing a lot of people sitting down, and if there is only one person sitting with very good posture they have "jumped out" at me. Reminds me of what Laura said in regards to breathing, something along the lines of "we fear the powerful natural expression inherent in our breath". Perhaps part of the cause of this "extra attention" is due to the fact that emitting* a more natural vibration (expression) can induce the same in others, which then stirs up such fear in themselves?

It's like what the priest friend said in the story, it's animal-like. It's not predictable. It's not vulnerable, it's powerful. And it scares the hell out of (some) people.

At any rate, I was able to try out a little bit of this tonight while walking on some ice. I slipped a few times, remembered this article and so I tried fox walking (I don't think I followed it entirely). I ended up walking downhill on ice this way and didn't slip a bit. I also felt more in control of my body weight. I am definitely going to try to this out more in life. But I worry about being an urbanite, going around without shoes does not go over well, as the author notes and as I have experienced personally. Will have to do what I can I suppose and seek out and take advantage of situations where I can go shoeless.

*for lack of a better term
 
But I worry about being an urbanite, going around without shoes does not go over well, as the author notes and as I have experienced personally.

Thank you for sharing your post, I am intruiged how my energy and attitude have gotten better with the fox walk.

Yeah, wearing shoes isn't that great. I find though, with the shoes I wear I can still get the ball of my foot down first and make the step as fully as possible, although movement inside the shoe is kinda restricted.

Yep. Or to put it another way, when you are dissociated from your body you block out the full awareness and feeling of this pain, which interferes with growth.

I noticed immediatly as I began to awkwardly re-adjust to fox walking, it made me more attentive to my surroundings, in a sense of experiencing new sensations. A step was not a step anymore, it was a conscious movement, it now has a purpose. I plan to go fox running around the track as soon as the weather gets better here. I want to experience, if only briefly, the "exhiliration" of running this way. It really gets you more in touch with everything.
 
Here is another article about the benefits of going barefoot: _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/6968891/Why-expensive-trainers-could-be-worse-than-useless.html

Why expensive trainers could be worse than useless
Western runners, of whom 90 per cent suffer injuries every year, would be better off leaving their sneakers at home, and running barefoot.

By Chris McDougall
Published: 7:00AM GMT 12 Jan 2010

Science and sceptical runners are catching up with something the Tarahumara Indians have known for ever: your naked feet are fine on their own. According to a growing body of clinical research, those expensive running shoes you've been relying on may be worse than useless: they could be causing the very injuries they're supposed to prevent.

Perhaps the best research in the field has been going on for hundreds of years in a maze of canyons in northern Mexico. There, the reclusive Tarahumara tribe routinely engage in races of 150 miles or more, the equivalent of running the London Marathon six times in the same day. Despite this extreme mileage, as I learnt during several treks into the canyons, the Tarahumara are somehow immune to the injuries that plague the rest of the running world.

Out here in the non-Tarahumara world, where we have access to the best in sports medicine, training innovations and footwear, up to 90 per cent of all marathoners are injured every year. The Tarahumara, by contrast, remain spry and healthy deep into old age. I saw numerous men and women in their seventies loping up steep, cliffside switchbacks on their way to villages 30 miles away. Back in 1994, a Tarahumara man ventured out of the canyons to compete against an elite field of runners at the Leadville Trail Ultramarathon, a 100-mile race through the Rocky Mountains. He wore homemade sandals. He was 55 years old. He won.

So how do the Tarahumara protect their legs from all that pounding? Simple – they don't. They don't protect and, most critically, they don't pound. When the Tarahumara aren't barefoot, they wear nothing more cushioned than thin, hard sandals fashioned from discarded tire treads and leather thongs. In place of artificial shock absorption, they rely on an ancient running technique that creates a naturally gentle landing. Unlike the vast majority of modern runners, who come down heavily on their foam-covered heels and roll forward off their toes, the Tarahumara land lightly on their forefeet and bend their knees, as you would if you jumped from a chair.

This ingenious, easy-to-learn style could have a profound effect on runners, not to mention the multi-billion dollar running-shoe industry. Ever since Nike created the modern running shoe in the Seventies, new joggers have been repeatedly warned that their first step should be through the door of a speciality store. Without proper footwear, they're told, crippling injuries are inevitable. Take this recent comment by Dr Lewis G Maharam, "the world's premier running physician" as he's known, and medical director for the New York City Marathon. "In 95 per cent of the population or higher, running barefoot will land you in my office," Maharam said. That's because only "a very small number of people are biomechanically perfect."

Shortly before the New York City Marathon, David Willey, the editor of Runner's World magazine, broadcast a similarly dire warning on the radio. "If a lot of runners or all the runners out there in America did that tomorrow [ran without shoes], the vast majority of them would get hurt very quickly and would have to stop running for a long time." And why? Because, Willey said, "the vast majority of people are not blessed in that way. They've got some biomechanical inefficiencies."

This logic has at least one major flaw: the vast majority of runners, "blessed" or otherwise, are getting hurt anyway. The injury rate among all runners has hovered somewhere between 60 and 80 per cent for the past 40 years. You'd expect casualties to decrease as technology improved, but you'd be wrong: there are more heel and Achilles' tendon injuries now than ever, even though Adidas sells a trainer with a microprocessor in the sole to customise cushioning, and Asics spent $3 million, and eight years – three more than it took the Manhattan Project to create the first atomic bomb – to invent the awe-inspiring "Kinsei", a shoe that boasts "multi-angled forefoot gel pods" and an "infinitely adaptable heel component".

Astonishingly, there's no evidence that any of this technology does anything, which may explain why Nike ads never explain what, exactly, those $190 shoes are supposed to do. In a 2008 research paper for the British Journal of Sports Medicine, Dr Craig Richards, a physician at the University of Newcastle in Australia, revealed that after scouring 30 years' worth of studies, he couldn't find a single one that demonstrated that running shoes made you less prone to injury.

So if shoes aren't the solution, could they be the problem? That's what Dr Daniel Lieberman, the head of the evolutionary anthropology department at Harvard, began to wonder. Humans, after all, are the only creatures that voluntarily cover their feet, and we're also the only creatures known to suffer from corns, bunions, hammer-toes and heel pain.

Last spring, Lieberman recruited Harvard students for an experiment: he had them kick off their sneakers and run every day in either bare feet or wearing a thin, rubber foot-glove called the Vibram Fivefingers. The results were remarkable. Once their shoes were taken away, the students instinctively stopped clumping down on their heels. Instead, they began landing lightly on the balls of their feet, keeping their feet beneath their hips and bending at the knees and ankles. Without knowing it, they were mirroring the Tarahumara.

Lieberman was so taken by his discovery that before long, he was startling undergraduates by loping past them in bare feet for miles at a time through the streets of suburban Boston.

In Germany, meanwhile, the world's leading researcher in human connective tissue, Dr Robert Schleip at the University of Ulm, began a similar experiment to see whether he could end his own battle with plantar fasciitis, a vexing heel pain that is almost impossible to cure fully.

"If you encase the foot in thick shoes," Schleip says, "you not only lose ground awareness, you limit your natural elasticity." Schleip began slipping out of his shoes to run barefoot through the parks of Berlin. Soon, his heel pain vanished, never to return.

So harmful are running shoes that you're better off walking in high heels. That's the conclusion of a study published this month in PM&R, the journal for the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. A team of researchers put 68 young adult runners on a treadmill, and found that they suffered 38 per cent more twisting in their knees and ankles when wearing shoes than they did in bare feet.

"Remarkably, the effect of running shoes on knee joint torques," the lead researcher said, "is even greater than the effect that was reported earlier of high-heeled shoes during walking."

Similarly, a study in The Journal of Sports Medicine and Physical Fitness in March 2009 found that even when running on hard surfaces, barefoot runners experience less impact than runners with shoes because – as the Harvard students discovered – they naturally take shorter strides and bend their knees and ankles. No one needed to feed those numbers to Abebe Bikila, the two-time Olympic champion, or Zola Budd, who held the
5,000 metre world record and competed for Britain in the 1984 Los Angeles Games: both preferred running in bare feet.

Sceptics like to argue that runners bring injuries on themselves by doing their miles on hard, man-made surfaces and being less athletic than marathoners of yore. That reasoning ignores the fact that barefoot humans got along quite well on hard terrain for two million years, running on cement-like surfaces like the sun-baked African savannah, the beaten-dirt trails of the Amazon, and the stony canyons of Mexico.

When it comes to novices, no one has more experience than the military and less margin for error. For centuries, armies have had to train out-of-shape recruits to cover marathon distances on their feet. Rather than dispensing plush trainers, the military took another route. As described in the classic military text The Soldier's Foot and the Military Shoe, all new recruits are taught to land lightly on the balls of their feet. They keep their feet under their hips, swinging their legs in a quick, light shuffle to a beat of 180 strides per minute – which, not surprisingly, exactly matches the ancient running rhythm of the Tarahumara.

'Born to Run' (Profile, £16.99) by Chris McDougall is available from Telegraph Books for £14.99 (RRP £16.99) plus £1.25 p&p.

I am a regular jogger and fortunately have not sustained any injuries yet. I am looking into the Vibram Fivefingers mentioned in the article to replace my usual jogging shoes. Has anyone any experience with this brand?
 
Nicolas said:
I am a regular jogger and fortunately have not sustained any injuries yet. I am looking into the Vibram Fivefingers mentioned in the article to replace my usual jogging shoes. Has anyone any experience with this brand?

I came across with an article recommending them as well, here they are:

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_http://chaitowschat-leon.blogspot.com/2010/01/latest-research-recommends-walking-and.html

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A news item yesterday suggested that new research shows that running, wearing cushioned shoes, is actually harmful to joints.....and that barefoot is better.
So, I am led to wonder whether this would also apply to my brisk walking and aging knees?
The research on which this news was based was by Kerrigan and colleagues (The Effect of Running Shoes on Lower Extremity Joint Torques 2009 American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation 1:1058-1063). This research looked at the effect of modern-day running shoes on lower extremity joint torques during running. Simplistically torque is the tendency of a force to rotate an object about an axis.What happens when we walk or run is that a degree of twist or torque occurs in the joints of the leg, pelvis and spine....and it seems that the research showed that increased joint torques occurred at the hip, knee, and ankle when running shoes were worn, compared with running barefoot.

Synchronistically I have just been editing a section for the April 2010 issue of the Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies.
The topic? A survey by one of my Associate Editors, Matt Wallden ND DO, of various products on the market that mimic barefoot conditions. These include footwear by Masai Barefoot Technology (MBT), FitFlop, Nike FREE, Vivo Barefoot, Newton running shoes, and the oddest of all, Vibram FiveFingers.

Each of these has its advantages, and each attempts to mimic barefoot, but with some protective features for the foot.
If you want to know more about these you may need to wait until April, for the JBMT editorial by Matt.

If you really cannot wait, do some google searches for details of these alternatives.....I know I will.
 
Psyche said:
Nicolas said:
I am a regular jogger and fortunately have not sustained any injuries yet. I am looking into the Vibram Fivefingers mentioned in the article to replace my usual jogging shoes. Has anyone any experience with this brand?

I came across with an article recommending them as well, here they are:

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Those are the latest rave in the specialty shoe stores where I live - haven't considered trying them, but they are certainly eye catching when you see them in the store - seem to get a lot of attention as well.
 
anart said:
Those are the latest rave in the specialty shoe stores where I live - haven't considered trying them, but they are certainly eye catching when you see them in the store - seem to get a lot of attention as well.

I wonder how thick the bottom is on it? Those look interesting, but if one were to step on a rock while running outside, you'd hope that their would be a little protection from that. Either way, if I had my druthers I would be able to walk and run barefoot all the time, but factors such as weather and lack of protection do not allow it.
 
anart said:
Those are the latest rave in the specialty shoe stores where I live - haven't considered trying them, but they are certainly eye catching when you see them in the store - seem to get a lot of attention as well.

Looks like some kinda ninja shoe. :ninja:
 
Heimdallr said:
anart said:
Those are the latest rave in the specialty shoe stores where I live - haven't considered trying them, but they are certainly eye catching when you see them in the store - seem to get a lot of attention as well.

I wonder how thick the bottom is on it? Those look interesting, but if one were to step on a rock while running outside, you'd hope that their would be a little protection from that. Either way, if I had my druthers I would be able to walk and run barefoot all the time, but factors such as weather and lack of protection do not allow it.

Very interesting topic! After a little search, i found a lot of info on the "bare foot running" concept and the whole thing seems to make a lot of sense. I also found a picture showing the Vibram shoes from underneath.

vibram-kso-barefoot-running-shoes.jpg


There are also other "bare foot running" shoes, check http://barefootrunningshoes.org

Thank you!
:)
 
Nicolas on Yesterday at 04:25:27 PM said:
I am a regular jogger and fortunately have not sustained any injuries yet. I am looking into the Vibram Fivefingers mentioned in the article to replace my usual jogging shoes. Has anyone any experience with this brand?

Heimdallr said:
I wonder how thick the bottom is on it? Those look interesting, but if one were to step on a rock while running outside, you'd hope that their would be a little protection from that. Either way, if I had my druthers I would be able to walk and run barefoot all the time, but factors such as weather and lack of protection do not allow it.

I have not used these shoes, as I am other than a jogger (although i have been known to 'jog' down mountain slopes). I do know of at least one person in the UK who has used them for walking in the hills. However, a few years back I decided to replace my 'heavy walking boots' with lighter footwear, what I found was that three things are important: fit, fit and actual performance. I went through at least half a dozen pairs of trail shoes that fitted well in the shop, walked well in the shop, but within an hour of walking in the hills/mountains i wanted to throw them away (which I did when I stopped walking for the day). I eventually settled on a brand of very light fell running shoes, the fit was brilliant, the walking superb, in fact rather than 'can't wait to get these boots off and into my normal shoes', I would rather stay in my lighter fell running shoes than putting my normal shoes back on. The saving in energy of using light weight shoes is evident after a day in the hills.

As far as stepping on a rock whilst (running) walking outside is concerned - have you ever seen the rate that fell runners 'fly' down rocky hills - the lighter sole actually is better as the foot can do what it wants to do naturally rather than be constrained by what the heavier shoe sole dictates the foot can do. This is a similar principle to the shoes highlighted (Vibram Fivefingers) in the previous posts. I f the shoes fit, a thinner sole is better (in my opinion), and there is no substitute for trying them out in practice. I haven't looked back since walking the hills/mountains in lightweight fell running shoes, and I (my feet and legs (and the rest of my body)) feel better for it too.
 
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