Learning to Walk
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E said:
I'm not sure it's going to go this way but who knows?
During rockclimbing, sometimes your whole body weight is staying on a few square millimeters area under your foot, it generates important pressure on the toes.
Actually this pressure can be so important that stretched toes can't resist it and would bend, that's why rockclimbers usually choose very small shoes where the toes will be flexed in order to have more "pressure resistance".
So the current tendency, but it might change one day, is to flex the toes and group them together (several toes can resist a pressure that a single toe can't).
Here is the picture of a recent model, notice this totally unnatural shape, particularly the shortness (allowing to flex the toes), the bent sole and the sharp end (helping to put the toes together)
Well, as you can imagine rockclimbing shoes is one of the worst torture machine ever invented. The best moment in rockclimbing is when you remove the shoes
PS : Sorry for digressing a little bit
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During rockclimbing, sometimes your whole body weight is staying on a few square millimeters area under your foot, it generates important pressure on the toes.
Actually this pressure can be so important that stretched toes can't resist it and would bend, that's why rockclimbers usually choose very small shoes where the toes will be flexed in order to have more "pressure resistance".
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No I see what you're saying, but we don't climb on that level. Theses extreme 'suicide missions' don't appeal to me. I'm actually getting myself in shape for a climb, I've been bad lately, but as long as the spinning bike says "heartrate dangerously high", the mountain has to wait! I just wanna be in nature with a relatively challenging climb. These toe shoes will be perfect for that.
During rockclimbing, sometimes your whole body weight is staying on a few square millimeters area under your foot, it generates important pressure on the toes.
Actually this pressure can be so important that stretched toes can't resist it and would bend, that's why rockclimbers usually choose very small shoes where the toes will be flexed in order to have more "pressure resistance".
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No I see what you're saying, but we don't climb on that level. Theses extreme 'suicide missions' don't appeal to me. I'm actually getting myself in shape for a climb, I've been bad lately, but as long as the spinning bike says "heartrate dangerously high", the mountain has to wait! I just wanna be in nature with a relatively challenging climb. These toe shoes will be perfect for that.
Gimpy
The Living Force
All I can think of looking at the picture of these new 'barefoot shoes' is wearing them with brightly colored toe socks. I'm sure they are to be worn without socks, but I can't help thinking of folks running round in stripy toe socks inside them.
spyraal said:Heimdallr said:
Very interesting topic! After a little search, i found a lot of info on the "bare foot running" concept and the whole thing seems to make a lot of sense. I also found a picture showing the Vibram shoes from underneath.
There are also other "bare foot running" shoes, check http://barefootrunningshoes.org
Thank you!
:)
abstract
Dagobah Resident
Mkay, so i've been fox walking for over a month now, and it's great.
One thing i noticed: I used to lift weights, and i read a book once called HIT: high intensity training. and it says that one of the KEY things to remember when lifting weights:
Do not lock your joints! We lock our joins when we "cow walk" and it puts too much pressure on the joints, basically, the muscles don't do their job when you lock you joints.
Which of course contributes to the atrophy of these muscles.
One thing i noticed: I used to lift weights, and i read a book once called HIT: high intensity training. and it says that one of the KEY things to remember when lifting weights:
Do not lock your joints! We lock our joins when we "cow walk" and it puts too much pressure on the joints, basically, the muscles don't do their job when you lock you joints.
Which of course contributes to the atrophy of these muscles.
G
Gertrudes
Guest
abstract said:
Yes, very important. Not only your muscles won't be working as they should, as you will partly be relying on the joint itself to do the work for you rather then on proper muscular effort, but you will also be considerably decreasing the "life expectancy" of your joint if consistently locking it.
abstract
Dagobah Resident
After about 3 months of fox-walking (every single day) I feel that now I am fully integrated into doing this type of walking.
So here's how it went for me, getting into the whole thing. (as far as I remember)
First off, if you're a lifelong cow walker, expect it to be really awkward at first, maybe even uncomfortable. At the end of some days, I had mild pain in my legs/feet
because when you start using muscles you never use, they're almost kind of useless. The muscles can barely operate for a fox walk if you cow walk your whole life.
I started out trying various leg movements, putting down the balls of my feet first. Had a hard time bending the knee correctly, they felt a bit stiff!
I gradually, through practice, was able to bend the knee correctly so i could put the ball of the foot down first. My stance eventually changed, and i kid you not, my legs
are shaped differently now, as though walking in correct, natural fashion corrected any deformity caused by the cow walk. I stand differently too, I no longer slouch, (I see a lot of older people who slouch chronically because of these deformities) my back can just
stay straight on it's own because of my stance. Even putting weight on my heels while standing, the knees now stay bent, and it feels oh so strange now not to have a bend in my knees at all times.
The arches in my feet seem to have more of a curve to them now.
Just recently have I been able to finally get used to the action of "rolling" the feet a little bit when you take a step.
My legs in general have more muscle definition, buttocks and thighs have tightened up too.
Because of the way your feet are designed, you have better balance and almost never trip. You can be in full jog and turn 180 degrees
without falling because the concentrated pressure on the ball of the foot really helps you "stick" to the ground and the bent knees
provide your manueverability, OSIT. Running and walking are almost seamless because you don't change the length of your stride that much.
You can walk longer and your feet don't hurt so much even after being on your feet for hours and hours.
So that's as much as i understand currently, all in all it seems like a good idea to teach this walk to children so they don't grow up
with structural deformities. I really don't see how the majority of people couldn't easily learn to walk this way with just a bit of practice.
One other thing I feel like i should mention is that cow walking is just lazy. It can only ruin your knees and your back and lead to
medical bills later on. The way I see it, anything that keeps me outta the doc's office seems a good idea.
So here's how it went for me, getting into the whole thing. (as far as I remember)
First off, if you're a lifelong cow walker, expect it to be really awkward at first, maybe even uncomfortable. At the end of some days, I had mild pain in my legs/feet
because when you start using muscles you never use, they're almost kind of useless. The muscles can barely operate for a fox walk if you cow walk your whole life.
I started out trying various leg movements, putting down the balls of my feet first. Had a hard time bending the knee correctly, they felt a bit stiff!
I gradually, through practice, was able to bend the knee correctly so i could put the ball of the foot down first. My stance eventually changed, and i kid you not, my legs
are shaped differently now, as though walking in correct, natural fashion corrected any deformity caused by the cow walk. I stand differently too, I no longer slouch, (I see a lot of older people who slouch chronically because of these deformities) my back can just
stay straight on it's own because of my stance. Even putting weight on my heels while standing, the knees now stay bent, and it feels oh so strange now not to have a bend in my knees at all times.
The arches in my feet seem to have more of a curve to them now.
Just recently have I been able to finally get used to the action of "rolling" the feet a little bit when you take a step.
My legs in general have more muscle definition, buttocks and thighs have tightened up too.
Because of the way your feet are designed, you have better balance and almost never trip. You can be in full jog and turn 180 degrees
without falling because the concentrated pressure on the ball of the foot really helps you "stick" to the ground and the bent knees
provide your manueverability, OSIT. Running and walking are almost seamless because you don't change the length of your stride that much.
You can walk longer and your feet don't hurt so much even after being on your feet for hours and hours.
So that's as much as i understand currently, all in all it seems like a good idea to teach this walk to children so they don't grow up
with structural deformities. I really don't see how the majority of people couldn't easily learn to walk this way with just a bit of practice.
One other thing I feel like i should mention is that cow walking is just lazy. It can only ruin your knees and your back and lead to
medical bills later on. The way I see it, anything that keeps me outta the doc's office seems a good idea.
Mrs.Tigersoap said:
And what would you say about the following shoes? I would say that our modern art is in a deep dung.
Artist INSA Sculpts 10-Inch-Tall Elephant Dung Stilettos
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/11/artist-insa-sculpts-10-in_n_495093.html
Mrs.Tigersoap
The Living Force
Keit said:
I'm at a loss for words... When I see things like that (and there are many in modern art, unfortunately), I always like to imagine what was going on inside the 'artist's' head when he 'got inspired' (I use the term loosely). But here I'm drawing a blank...
And anyway, when you make shoes out of elephant dung, why do you even bother to decorate them with pearls? If that's the road you're going to take, go for it, don't sugar-coat it!
Edit: quote & grammar
Carlybee
Padawan Learner
Lol those shoes look like my blundstone boots (minus the bling lol) after walking around the horse paddock!
I started the fox walking only a few days ago now and Im already starting to notice my whole body position changing and calves are sore but toning up so fast!
Another thing I noticed is that when I fox walk past my cat, he freaks out now lool, thinks Im trying to stalk on him or something his eyes widen and he just stares at my feet not quite knowing what to do haha.
I started the fox walking only a few days ago now and Im already starting to notice my whole body position changing and calves are sore but toning up so fast!
Another thing I noticed is that when I fox walk past my cat, he freaks out now lool, thinks Im trying to stalk on him or something his eyes widen and he just stares at my feet not quite knowing what to do haha.
Sodajaxon
Jedi
I have to agree with Mrs tigersoap's.
My word losses' can be brutal, but im leaned to digress'es.
art in the eye of the beholder, lacks. my little brother is about to get his doctorate in arts and somethin else, cant think of it right now but he started a site that expanded of course !;)
_www.avant-garde.com, i dont think thats his site, but his site uses the actual english words- avant garde.
looks as if he, has done well, that site is not "ALL" his, i dont think, mostly his 'theme' how do u say, 'influence' -
no - 'project' would be better said.
Scotty want's to go to 'L.A' to 'top-off' his thesis, ' for a complete conclusion'. He may loose his fiance`,(longtimegirl) but he ventures, as we all do. Scott is UOFA not Miami, im not sure if he held or sold his domain. sorry, but Avant garde is a term he used for one of his site's.
we dont talk much kuz, im an axxhole, and dad say's to leave him alone.
but again, art is - In the Eye of the beholder.
My word losses' can be brutal, but im leaned to digress'es.
art in the eye of the beholder, lacks. my little brother is about to get his doctorate in arts and somethin else, cant think of it right now but he started a site that expanded of course !;)
_www.avant-garde.com, i dont think thats his site, but his site uses the actual english words- avant garde.
looks as if he, has done well, that site is not "ALL" his, i dont think, mostly his 'theme' how do u say, 'influence' -
no - 'project' would be better said.
Scotty want's to go to 'L.A' to 'top-off' his thesis, ' for a complete conclusion'. He may loose his fiance`,(longtimegirl) but he ventures, as we all do. Scott is UOFA not Miami, im not sure if he held or sold his domain. sorry, but Avant garde is a term he used for one of his site's.
we dont talk much kuz, im an axxhole, and dad say's to leave him alone.
but again, art is - In the Eye of the beholder.
