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Well, actually I'm not a smoker. But that dosen't mean I don't have something to say. That article really got me to thinking; I have always regarded
info that I did not have any way to verify with caution. I'm talking about mainstream info, BTW. The kind that says smoking is deadly. I can't know that for sure. Fact is, there are many who smoke all their lives into old age who die of other causes. I read the article recommended as a "must read" by Laura about cell phones. Unfortunately, there's no one out there looking out for your best interest.

I've seen for a while how the "authorities" are outright hostile in there dissemination of information regarding serious health risk to the point of the only conclusion I can seriously come up with: "their tryiing to kill us!"

Am I paranoid?

Perahaps, but please keep in mind there are irrational fears, but then there is also survival instinct.

It all depends on one's awareness.

What say you?

Donald
 
Thanks for that. Right now there's a big crackdown on illegal immigrants going on here in Arizona. The timing is suspicious. Did they wait until there was such large numbers of them here on purpose? Are they looking to start civil war?

It's now illegal to pick up day laborers. There are more stringent protocals to prove citizenship when applying for a job.

And interesting that Arizona has banned smoking state wide. Well, I don't need to smoke to see what's going on. I've got a keen eye on all of this.

So far things are still pretty calm, but just yesterday hispanics were on street corners with protest signs.

I'll report if things begin to escalate.
 
And interesting that Arizona has banned smoking state wide.
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Hi Donald,

They haven't banned smoking state wide, but in many public places.

_http://www.smokefreearizona.org/
 
Hmm... perhaps there's yet another reason smoking may be good for you.
Laura said:
In one of the coversations I asked: What, if anything, can increase the concentration of hemoglobin in blood? [...] The answer suprised me [...] NICOTINE.
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High levels of hemoglobin! I've heard that one before.
Eight Olympic cross-country skiers, including a former gold medalist, were suspended for five days after they were found to have excessive hemoglobin levels -- the first hint of scandal at the Turin Games. [...] Hemoglobin is the part of a red blood cell that carries oxygen from the lungs to all cells and can increase endurance. Illicit strategies such as the use of synthetic hemoglobin and blood transfusions have been used by some athletes to increase the oxygen in the muscles.
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Usually smokers are portrayed as having worsened aerobic performance. I'm a nonsmoker myself, so can anyone verify, at least anecdotely, my theory. Has anyone, say, smoked a carton and then ran a marathon :)? Or is my theory missing something?
 
genero81 said:
It's now illegal to pick up day laborers. There are more stringent protocals to prove citizenship when applying for a job.
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I dunno, but this sounds to me like more ammo for using the RFID chip in employees.

Although, I too, could just be paranoid. Ah, how about just highly suspicious.
 
genero81 said:
Thanks for that. Right now there's a big crackdown on illegal immigrants going on here in Arizona. The timing is suspicious. Did they wait until there was such large numbers of them here on purpose? Are they looking to start civil war?

It's now illegal to pick up day laborers. There are more stringent protocals to prove citizenship when applying for a job.

And interesting that Arizona has banned smoking state wide. Well, I don't need to smoke to see what's going on. I've got a keen eye on all of this.

So far things are still pretty calm, but just yesterday hispanics were on street corners with protest signs.

I'll report if things begin to escalate.
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I agree about the timing. What better way to create strife, take attention away from what is really going on, and get everyone concerned about the immigrant issue? No smoking allowed, tension escalating...sounds like an experiment to me.

Peg
 
Kesdjan said:
Usually smokers are portrayed as having worsened aerobic performance. I'm a nonsmoker myself, so can anyone verify, at least anecdotely, my theory. Has anyone, say, smoked a carton and then ran a marathon :)? Or is my theory missing something?
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Maybe this will help:

In high school, I was on the track team. Our coach wanted the smokers in the group to quit, got into trouble a couple of times because I didn't. But it never caused a problem in performance. In 1985, I started taking martial arts classes. Didn't quit for that either, nor for later competition. I've smoked since 1973. It never caused me to be tired, or winded. Sports included over the years: rock climbing, hiking, jogging, swimming and scuba diving. It has not affected any of those to any point where I'm uncomfortable.

I have noticed that at times of high stress or anxiety, I smoke a bit more than is the norm, and it does cause coughing. But returning to the amount I'm used to clears that up quickly.
 
I remember when I quit smoking for a few years, I kept waiting to see an improvement in my fitness, aerobic performance, health, etc, but nothing happened. I did my usual workouts and felt no difference at all. At the time I was disappointed because I had been expecting that there would be a change but it really didn't happen.
 
My feeling is that if one thinks that smoking is going to affect aerobic performance/fitness, then it probably will. Most people believe what they are told in this area: that smoking will make it more difficult to run and that it decreases lung capacity. But I have known smokers who were in just as good or better shape as non-smokers. And I've known non-smokers who couldn't run up the block.
 
Kesdjan said:
Usually smokers are portrayed as having worsened aerobic performance. I'm a nonsmoker myself, so can anyone verify, at least anecdotely, my theory. Has anyone, say, smoked a carton and then ran a marathon :)? Or is my theory missing something?
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Lol, Kesdjan - I smoke one pack of cigarettes a day and can skate four hours straight. And I'm not speaking about chillout skating, but hardcore free-ride through the city :D

I have some naughty pleasure lighting up while skating as well. Those scornful comments "Look, what an idiot, he exercises and smokes at the same time" usually make my day!
 
There have been high-profile, high-aerobic professional athletes who smoked. I'm thinking of hockey player Derek Sanderson in the 70s, tennis player Karsten Brasch in the 90s. Luis Tiant, Keith Hernandez. Many in the more distant past, of course. I think baseball players used to smoke during games in the old days!
 
A lot of hockey players smoke. Wayne Gretzky smokes cigars (during his playing days), among others. Many baseball players smoke and chew tobacco. You would be hard-pressed to find any track and field athletes who smoke though, because they are very picky about what they put in their body and if they want to compete at the highest level (Olympics) they cannot risk anything at all. So that's not the best standard to use. I've known a few professional football players who smoked also.
 
Extremely interesting. Definitely food (or smoke) for thought. Although, even after reading Laura's article I can't imagine how smoking could be overall beneficial to your health. I am a smoker and I do not intend to quit but tar is tar is it not? Hemoglobin may be one thing, but clogged, blackened lungs is another. Shouldn't we be chewing nicorette instead?
 
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I am a smoker and I do not intend to quit but tar is tar is it not? Hemoglobin may be one thing, but clogged, blackened lungs is another.
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Pure tobacco is not what causes such things. It's all the additives that the major brands (Marlboro, Newport, Camel, etc.) mix with tobacco which are like poison to your body.
 
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