"Life Without Bread"

Rhiannon said:
I use organic walnut oil and it is delicious - could probably eat it alone by the spoonful :lol:. ..

Wow, I made some mayo with walnut oil yesterday and was it ever delicious! :D

Incognito said:
I tried the bacon mayo and could not get it to thicken. I even tried to start it over with a fresh egg and still couldn't get it to emulsify. If someone else is successful I'd love to know how it tastes! I'll bet is really yummy.

Fwiw, my mayo wasn't emulsifying yesterday either so I used Julia's trick to fix it -

Warm a metal bowl with hot water & drain. Add 1 t of dijon mustard. Slowly start to dribble 1/2 t of mayo mixture into mustard while mixing. Continue to slowly add thin mayo into emulsifying mixture, increasing to 1T at a time until all mayo has been incorporated.

Incognito said:
I ended up making regular mayo with grapeseed oil, used a little less oil than the recipe called for, then stirred in a tablespoon and a half of ghee after it was done. It is rich, creamy and deeeliciious, the best mayo I've ever tasted, if I do say so myself. :P

So, throw some ghee in your mayo to fatten it up!

Will have to try that. :)
 
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Fwiw, my mayo wasn't emulsifying yesterday either so I used Julia's trick to fix it -

Warm a metal bowl with hot water & drain. Add 1 t of dijon mustard. Slowly start to dribble 1/2 t of mayo mixture into mustard while mixing. Continue to slowly add thin mayo into emulsifying mixture, increasing to 1T at a time until all mayo has been incorporated.
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Thanks, wish I would have known about this trick yesterday. I hated throwing out the ingredients. I cooked a lot of bacon to get the 1/2 cup of bacon grease:)
 
I've occasionally been feeling tired and very sleepy after eating, which I reported earlier. It may be related to excess protein intake, although I'm not yet sure. Another thing I've been having lately is regular headaches. I have been gradually upping the carbs in the form of vegetables, but the headaches were there before and continue since. It's a bit puzzling since I never used to suffer from headaches.

Right now I'm cutting down on protein, taking digestive support supplements (HCL and digestive enzymes) and also intestinal repairers (L-glutamine, slippery elm, turmeric, aloe vera), but the tiredness after meals and the headaches can be really disabling.

Perhaps I have overwhelmed my body with too few carbs and too much protein, I don't know, but I have small rashes, bloating (much better since I starting taking some intestinal support supplements), occasional tiredness after meals (possibly protein related?), and headaches. I'll be upping the carbs at a faster rate since I'm still at very low levels, be very strict with my protein intake, and see how it goes.

Anyone else experiencing headaches?
And for the ones who were also experiencing post meal tiredness have you, so far, found how to overcome it?

ADDED: I've been searching for a relation between ketosis, headaches, skin rashes and post meal tiredness, but everything I came across so far relates to people who have just entered ketosis, instead of having been in it for a couple of weeks (about 8) as I have. It could still be an effect of adapting to ketosis, although I'm not completely sure.
 
I don't know if this applies to you Gertrudes but some of those symptoms sound like they could also be adrenal fatigue. I have just finished reading the chapter on adrenal function in PBPM and was pleased to see her mention adaptogenic herbs as they have been on my mind over the last few days. I've read before that Ginseng, being considered the supreme adaptogenic herb is famous for improving digestion as well as being energizing. Well isn't that what we're all doing here, trying to adapt to a new diet and improve our digestion? I'm certainly going to be looking into getting some. In an article I just read here: _http://blog.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue/dietary-supplements-herbs-stress-and-adrenal-fatigue/ he recommends that women avoid using it (but I would say that this might need more investigation as I hadn't heard that before) but there are other good adaptogenic herbs such as American Ginseng (considered to be as potent as Panax Ginseng or Siberian Ginseng (not a true ginseng but still a prized adaptogenic herb). One other herb that I know is recognised for its support of adrenal function is licorice. I posted some info on licorice a while back in relation to its anti-viral properties here:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23713.0.html and of course there's the Adrenal Fatigue thread which you've probably read (I just noticed it now!)
Anyway, it may not be your case but then again, I think lots of us might benefit from a bit of a tonic. Maybe now that we're eating the right foods (or getting there) these herbal remedies might have something to work with!
 
Don Genaro said:
I don't know if this applies to you Gertrudes but some of those symptoms sound like they could also be adrenal fatigue. I have just finished reading the chapter on adrenal function in PBPM and was pleased to see her mention adaptogenic herbs as they have been on my mind over the last few days. I've read before that Ginseng, being considered the supreme adaptogenic herb is famous for improving digestion as well as being energizing. Well isn't that what we're all doing here, trying to adapt to a new diet and improve our digestion? I'm certainly going to be looking into getting some. In an article I just read here: _http://blog.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue/dietary-supplements-herbs-stress-and-adrenal-fatigue/ he recommends that women avoid using it (but I would say that this might need more investigation as I hadn't heard that before) but there are other good adaptogenic herbs such as American Ginseng (considered to be as potent as Panax Ginseng or Siberian Ginseng (not a true ginseng but still a prized adaptogenic herb). One other herb that I know is recognised for its support of adrenal function is licorice. I posted some info on licorice a while back in relation to its anti-viral properties here:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23713.0.html and of course there's the Adrenal Fatigue thread which you've probably read (I just noticed it now!)
Anyway, it may not be your case but then again, I think lots of us might benefit from a bit of a tonic. Maybe now that we're eating the right foods (or getting there) these herbal remedies might have something to work with!

All through my getting off of .... well everything but meat, eggs, fat and low carbs, I have eaten a consistent diet that includes ginger, garlic, onion and yam. That was it for several months, maybe more, maybe less. I can say I had fatigue, depression and other symptoms but over all I was healthy. I can see myself in the future finding a local source for ginger. Thanx for the info. :)
 
Gertrudes said:
I've occasionally been feeling tired and very sleepy after eating, which I reported earlier. It may be related to excess protein intake, although I'm not yet sure. Another thing I've been having lately is regular headaches. I have been gradually upping the carbs in the form of vegetables, but the headaches were there before and continue since. It's a bit puzzling since I never used to suffer from headaches.

It may just be digestive issues, if your digestive system hasn't yet adapted to the "new" food you are feeding it.

If you are burning stored fat then you can figure that you are releasing toxins stored in it, and that can be unpleasant. Some of the reading material can help but I have read so much lately that it just blurs together. Can anyone else remember? I seem to recall a warning to do something to insure that the toxins are flushed out through the gut and not reabsorbed. Personally I start each day with a "detox cocktail" consisting of vitamin C in water, NAC, and ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid, not Alpha Linoleic Acid), based on Sherry Rogers advice in Detoxify or Die. To that I have added L-carnitine for fat metabolism.

Stay with veggies with low net carbs (total carb grams minus fiber grams). I just spent a week returning to ketosis because I had too many starchy carbs at once. That will not make you feel better, I don't think.

I had headaches until I increased my salt intake. I tried off-the-shelf bouillon, but it contained "suspicious" ingredients that may have been causing other problems. Now I have a bottle of Celtic Sea Salt at work, and I add a little to my (filtered) drinking water. Interesting taste.

Right now I'm cutting down on protein, taking digestive support supplements (HCL and digestive enzymes) and also intestinal repairers (L-glutamine, slippery elm, turmeric, aloe vera), but the tiredness after meals and the headaches can be really disabling.

Perhaps I have overwhelmed my body with too few carbs and too much protein, I don't know, but I have small rashes, bloating (much better since I starting taking some intestinal support supplements), occasional tiredness after meals (possibly protein related?), and headaches. I'll be upping the carbs at a faster rate since I'm still at very low levels, be very strict with my protein intake, and see how it goes.

Perhaps you are UNDERwhelming your body with too few carbs, but more likely it would like to thank you for that change. You are relieving it of having to dispose of all that excess glucose before it wreaks havoc in your system. You might be having withdrawal symptoms from some of the accompanying addictive anti-nutrients, though. I had problems when I introduced too many new supplements at once! I am having trouble with eczema, and I have had to increase my water intake.

I am not sure how much to recommend raising carbs. People are so different. I am able to do fine at 72 g/d, but then I eliminated all wheat and gluten (and most other grains) for the last time about a year ago. My carbs were coming mostly from things like sweet potatoes, onions, garlic, other root vegetables, ultrashakes, etc., etc. If you are coming straight from "bad" foods as advised earlier then you may need to start higher, and you may not have the advantage of blood sugar stabilization at first if you do that. It depends on whether your body is able to take the sudden change.

I can see why so many people fail at low-carb diets. This is not easy to figure out, if you run into problems, especially if you are older. But you can't really fail unless you were wanting to. You just learn, adjust, and go on.

...And for the ones who were also experiencing post meal tiredness have you, so far, found how to overcome it?

I spent an hour or two last night going over my carb/protein/fat intake and found that I basically was taking in an extra meal's worth of protein every day. It could be poor digestion or it could be just too much food. I think I overdid it with the Atkins advice to not skip meals. I am going back to what I did at first: if I don't feel hungry then I am not going to eat. The body does not have a built-in clock that says to eat three times a day. Our ancestors ate when they had food! But until you are keto-adapted, you may need to eat regularly (or keep "throwing wood on the fire," as in PBPM). Your carbs don't have to be super-low for that to happen. Just low, like 72 g/day. But it varies a lot from person to person.

ADDED: I've been searching for a relation between ketosis, headaches, skin rashes and post meal tiredness, but everything I came across so far relates to people who have just entered ketosis, instead of having been in it for a couple of weeks (about 8) as I have. It could still be an effect of adapting to ketosis, although I'm not completely sure.

I did fine at 72 g/day, with only the occasional headache. My blood sugar stabilized and so did my weight. When I dropped to 20 g/day, though, my GI tract stopped working. I was flushing through undigested food. Both levels represent ketosis for me. The lower level is needed to lose weight at a good rate. Right now I am at about 40-50 g/day and doing OK, titrating vitamin C to keep things moving, and generally feeling better. But I am still not losing much weight at all and I am 30 pounds over what is comfortable for me, verging on what is considered "obese."

So are you really having trouble going into ketosis at all, or are you having trouble reaching very low carb intake? They are not the same thing. If your blood sugar and weight are stable, and cravings are ceasing, be glad. You don't have to hit a particular grams/day figure, and you don't have to feel like you are running on rocket fuel. That may only be a transient feeling anyway, not that I have ever experienced it.

The New Atkins approach recommends starting at a low figure to lose weight, but doesn't suggest that you need to stay there forever (unless you are super-carb-intolerant). Try to find a variety of healthy (low anti-nutrient) low-carb foods to eat, and try to minimize protein intake. I think that is where this is heading. At least until we find the next book that changes everything again. :)
 
Gertrudes said:
I've occasionally been feeling tired and very sleepy after eating, which I reported earlier. It may be related to excess protein intake, although I'm not yet sure. Another thing I've been having lately is regular headaches. I have been gradually upping the carbs in the form of vegetables, but the headaches were there before and continue since. It's a bit puzzling since I never used to suffer from headaches.

Right now I'm cutting down on protein, taking digestive support supplements (HCL and digestive enzymes) and also intestinal repairers (L-glutamine, slippery elm, turmeric, aloe vera), but the tiredness after meals and the headaches can be really disabling.

Perhaps I have overwhelmed my body with too few carbs and too much protein, I don't know, but I have small rashes, bloating (much better since I starting taking some intestinal support supplements), occasional tiredness after meals (possibly protein related?), and headaches. I'll be upping the carbs at a faster rate since I'm still at very low levels, be very strict with my protein intake, and see how it goes.

Anyone else experiencing headaches?
And for the ones who were also experiencing post meal tiredness have you, so far, found how to overcome it?

ADDED: I've been searching for a relation between ketosis, headaches, skin rashes and post meal tiredness, but everything I came across so far relates to people who have just entered ketosis, instead of having been in it for a couple of weeks (about 8) as I have. It could still be an effect of adapting to ketosis, although I'm not completely sure.

Well, if things are just starting to get bad for you now that you're dropping protein, I can relate. I've dropped my protein to within the established limits (or there abouts) and feel like I'm transitioning to ketosis all over again - I've had sore achey muscles, sore joints, fatigue, grouchiness, minor acne, heartburn and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting.

I was routinely eating 75g of protein or so per meal prior to this, so this current protein drop has been significant. It's obvious to me now that I was eating too much protein and converting it all to glucose. I was probably flip-flopping in and out of ketosis as a result, which would explain some of the symptoms I was having.

But, as was suggested by Laura, I've added some veggies with a whole ton of fat to try to make up for lost calories (for lack of a better term). Mushrooms and onions are nice as they can really soak up the fat, and I found a sea veggie at the health food store I work at called "sea asparagus" which is really delicious lightly steamed with a lot of ghee on it. Despite what I had thought (and what actually did happen to me the first day I restricted protein), I haven't been going hungry.

The aches and pains seem to have subsided a bit today as I increased my water intake substantially. This may help you, too. I think the whole "drink when you're thirsty" idea isn't such a great guide when you're transitioning - you really need some extra water to stay hydrated since you lose it at an increased rate when you go into ketosis. The extra water probably increased my sodium by a little bit too, since I've been adding a pinch of sea salt to my water, so that may be helping things.

I also found this article on gnolls.org about the dreaded "low carb flu," which is another way of saying "difficult symptoms associated with transition to ketosis". The author suggests exercise will help with the conversion to fat metabolism. It kinda makes sense, but I'm not much of an exerciser, so I haven't tried it out.

I'm not out of the woods yet, but things are substantially better today than the past few days. Yesterday evening I tried to catch up on the forum and my head was swimming so much I couldn't do a thing. I ended up just crashing out.

Hope this helps Gertrudes :)
 
dugdeep said:
I also found this article on gnolls.org about the dreaded "low carb flu," which is another way of saying "difficult symptoms associated with transition to ketosis". The author suggests exercise will help with the conversion to fat metabolism. It kinda makes sense, but I'm not much of an exerciser, so I haven't tried it out.

You know, I have meaning to start some kind of exercise regimen but have failed to do so. That article is pushing me to start, I think it may be what I need to really get things moving in terms of ketoadaptation. I don't feel so lethargic anymore so this should be the perfect time to get on it. Thanks!
 
beetlemaniac said:
dugdeep said:
I also found this article on gnolls.org about the dreaded "low carb flu," which is another way of saying "difficult symptoms associated with transition to ketosis". The author suggests exercise will help with the conversion to fat metabolism. It kinda makes sense, but I'm not much of an exerciser, so I haven't tried it out.

You know, I have meaning to start some kind of exercise regimen but have failed to do so. That article is pushing me to start, I think it may be what I need to really get things moving in terms of ketoadaptation. I don't feel so lethargic anymore so this should be the perfect time to get on it. Thanks!

It's almost like low-carb diets are designed to fail. It makes sense in a perverse sort of way. It's hard to hide information from people these days, but you can confuse the message so that it isn't taken seriously. Neither 4D STS nor the pharmaceutical/medical industry nor the food processing industry wants people to be healthy. Low carb diets to them are a problem that has to be dealt with, though it is not a huge one because a great many people are hooked on their carbs and aren't going to give them up.

If "diving in" to induction like Atkins and others suggest produces too many unpleasant side effects (as it did for me), try starting by finding your upper limit instead. Try 72 net carb grams per day as in Life Without Bread. Adjust that figure if you have to. You can probably switch to fat burning without killing yourself.

And read the book (LWB). The "diet" is presented in chapter 1. It is not a weight loss diet. You can also use the method in The New Atkins for a New You to find your "ACE" (Atkins Carbohydrate Equilibrium), rather than relying on the arbitrary number 72. There is nothing in the New Atkins plan that says you have to go into Induction or Ongoing Weight Loss. That should be clear if you have read the book. So if those parts aren't working for you, start at a higher level and give your body time to heal.

I still think it's worth trying to start at 20 grams/day (Induction) if you are young or your health is reasonably good. If the symptoms aren't bad, if you drink your water and supplement with salt or broth, and if you are able to adjust without too much difficulty within a few weeks (2-6 they say, if I remember correctly) then why not? That is, assuming that you need to lose weight or have one of the other needs that suggest that you would need to start in Induction. Or that you just don't tolerate eating plant foods. But if it isn't working, you can go up in carbs and still stay in ketosis. You just may not lose weight, or may lose it very slowly. Which can be OK too.

You can also choose to eat a very low carbohydrate diet long-term even if you don't care about weight loss, if it works well for you and if you educate yourself thoroughly about the nutritional requirements. Otherwise don't do it.
 
dugdeep said:
Gertrudes said:
I've occasionally been feeling tired and very sleepy after eating, which I reported earlier. It may be related to excess protein intake, although I'm not yet sure. Another thing I've been having lately is regular headaches. I have been gradually upping the carbs in the form of vegetables, but the headaches were there before and continue since. It's a bit puzzling since I never used to suffer from headaches.

Right now I'm cutting down on protein, taking digestive support supplements (HCL and digestive enzymes) and also intestinal repairers (L-glutamine, slippery elm, turmeric, aloe vera), but the tiredness after meals and the headaches can be really disabling.

Perhaps I have overwhelmed my body with too few carbs and too much protein, I don't know, but I have small rashes, bloating (much better since I starting taking some intestinal support supplements), occasional tiredness after meals (possibly protein related?), and headaches. I'll be upping the carbs at a faster rate since I'm still at very low levels, be very strict with my protein intake, and see how it goes.

Well, if things are just starting to get bad for you now that you're dropping protein, I can relate. I've dropped my protein to within the established limits (or there abouts) and feel like I'm transitioning to ketosis all over again - I've had sore achey muscles, sore joints, fatigue, grouchiness, minor acne, heartburn and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting.

I had similar symptoms and still have some, from nausea, weak legs, strange dizziness and tiredness. Yesterday I needed to take three naps over the day with a length of 0.5 - 1 hr. Today I'm doing better, but this dizziness/heavy head is kind of annoying, I searched some books for it some weeks ago but couldn't find a thing, what causes it or how to help it. My hunger and fat need is also decreasing, where my body complains when I think about taking more than 20gr of raw butter at one meal, the total fat intake was about 180 grams yesterday to 68 proteins and 7 carbs. Also Vit C upsets my stomach, also really small doses (1.2 gr) as already reported by someone.

So I will increase some veggie carbs today, as suggested by Megan to get about 20 grams instead of about 3-8 and see how it goes. On the positive flip-side, my blood-sugar is very stable and follows the same pattern from day to day. :)


Megan said:
beetlemaniac said:
dugdeep said:
I also found this article on gnolls.org about the dreaded "low carb flu," which is another way of saying "difficult symptoms associated with transition to ketosis". The author suggests exercise will help with the conversion to fat metabolism. It kinda makes sense, but I'm not much of an exerciser, so I haven't tried it out.

You know, I have meaning to start some kind of exercise regimen but have failed to do so. That article is pushing me to start, I think it may be what I need to really get things moving in terms of ketoadaptation. I don't feel so lethargic anymore so this should be the perfect time to get on it. Thanks!

It's almost like low-carb diets are designed to fail. It makes sense in a perverse sort of way. It's hard to hide information from people these days, but you can confuse the message so that it isn't taken seriously. Neither 4D STS nor the pharmaceutical/medical industry nor the food processing industry wants people to be healthy. Low carb diets to them are a problem that has to be dealt with, though it is not a huge one because a great many people are hooked on their carbs and aren't going to give them up.

IMO Gluten plays there a huge role, cause of it's addictive effects, and also the brain chemistry is used to and knows where to get pleasures from: small sugar candies to feel good, like over the years trained behavior. And the most important point imo, without an encouraging and caring network, it seems impossible to do alone.
 
dugdeep said:
Gertrudes said:
I've occasionally been feeling tired ... It may be related to excess protein intake, although I'm not yet sure. ...

Right now I'm cutting down on protein, taking digestive support supplements (HCL and digestive enzymes) and also intestinal repairers (L-glutamine, ..., turmeric, ...), ...
...

And for the ones who were also experiencing post meal tiredness have you, so far, found how to overcome it?

Well, if things are just starting to get bad for you now that you're dropping protein, I can relate. I've dropped my protein to within the established limits (or there abouts) and feel like I'm transitioning to ketosis all over again - I've had sore achey muscles,
sore joints, fatigue, grouchiness, minor acne, heartburn and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting.

I was routinely eating 75g of protein or so per meal prior to this, so this current protein drop has been significant. It's obvious to me now that I was eating too much protein and converting it all to glucose. I was probably flip-flopping in and out of ketosis as a result, which would explain some of the symptoms I was having.

But, as was suggested by Laura, I've added some veggies with a whole ton of fat to try to make up for lost calories (for lack of a better term). ... onions are nice as they can really soak up the fat, and I found a sea veggie at the health food store I work at called "sea asparagus" which is really delicious lightly steamed with a lot of ghee on it. Despite what I had thought (and what actually did happen to me the first day I restricted protein), I haven't been going hungry.

The aches and pains seem to have subsided a bit today as I increased my water intake substantially. This may help you, too. I think the whole "drink when you're thirsty" idea isn't such a great guide when you're transitioning - you really need some extra water to stay hydrated since you lose it at an increased rate when you go into ketosis. The extra water probably increased my sodium by a little bit too, since I've been adding a pinch of sea salt to my water, so that may be helping things.

I also found this article on gnolls.org about the dreaded "low carb flu," which is another way of saying "difficult symptoms associated with transition to ketosis". The author suggests exercise will help with the conversion to fat metabolism. It kinda makes sense, but I'm not much of an exerciser, so I haven't tried it out.

I'm not out of the woods yet, but things are substantially better today than the past few days. Yesterday evening I tried to catch up on the forum and my head was swimming so much I couldn't do a thing. I ended up just crashing out.

Hope this helps Gertrudes :)

No headaches, or tiredness after eating, only a lack of energy by early evening that stops everything. Like dugdeep, I've moved from an excess of protein (100g plus) to the level for my weight, 63.5g; carbs are from between 14 and 20g (6th day of doing this), and eating lots of butter with my meals, and a need for lots of water - may require even more as my age spots, rather than receding they seem even stronger which suggest (if I recall properly) ketones are coming out through the skin. Also, eating three meals when feeling hungry, the space between them is not as long as before - this may be the stomach adjusting to new levels of 'fullness'.

This may help or not.
 
Thanks for the thoughts everyone.
Don Genaro said:
I don't know if this applies to you Gertrudes but some of those symptoms sound like they could also be adrenal fatigue.

Haven't thought of that. Thanks for the pointer Don Genaro.

Megan said:
It may just be digestive issues, if your digestive system hasn't yet adapted to the "new" food you are feeding it.

If you are burning stored fat then you can figure that you are releasing toxins stored in it, and that can be unpleasant.

Yes, perhaps this is still part of the adaptation phase. I remember how in "Life without bread" the author provided charts showing the progression of various health aspects throughout months, if not years, of being on a low carb diet. It was interesting to see how much those charts fluctuated only reaching stability, if I remember correctly, after having been on the diet for one year.

The release of toxins is something that I'm considering, particularly since I got skin rashes with this diet. I may also need to drink more water as suggested by dugdeep and Trevrizent, I drink lots of tea but probably not enough water.

Megan said:
Stay with veggies with low net carbs

Yes, will do. No starchy vegetables so far, and also taking salt.

Megan said:
I am not sure how much to recommend raising carbs.
(snip)
If you are coming straight from "bad" foods as advised earlier then you may need to start higher, and you may not have the advantage of blood sugar stabilization at first if you do that. It depends on whether your body is able to take the sudden change.

I've been "bad" foods free for more then 2 years, having done the USD twice. I've also been low carb since the end of February this year because I started the anti candida diet then, having lowered my carb intake even more, to about 5g a day when this thread came to life. Over the past days I started eating more low carb vegetables, but have not yet reached the 20g mark. Hopefully today.

Megan said:
So are you really having trouble going into ketosis at all, or are you having trouble reaching very low carb intake?

Neither really, I've been low carb for months and stopped craving any carbs long ago. I also think I have been in ketosis for about 2 months, I felt like superwoman for a period of time about 2 months ago, then my energy levels stabilized, and my ketostix has been showing high levels of ketones ever since.

Megan said:
I can see why so many people fail at low-carb diets. This is not easy to figure out, if you run into problems, especially if you are older.

Indeed, there are so many variables to take into consideration, and we all react so differently. I can very well understand how people doing this on their own might get scared when being surprised with a few uncomfortable symptoms and not having enough information on why that may be happening and how to handle it.

dugdeep said:
Hope this helps Gertrudes :)

It does, thanks dugdeep. You're also confirming some of my suspicions: too much protein, not enough water, should start including a few more veggies.
Glad to hear you're feeling much better though!
 
Might be useful to look at IBS for some possible clues. One of the things commonly noted with IBS is skin rash. Whenever Atriedes has a tummy upset, he gets a rash, usually on his abdomen, arms, and legs.

IBS comes in two main varieties: constipation, or diarrhea.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001292/

Of course, they say very contradictory and often stupid things like: "
Increase dietary fiber
Fiber supplements can make symptoms worse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irritable_bowel_syndrome
 
Laura said:
Might be useful to look at IBS for some possible clues. One of the things commonly noted with IBS is skin rash. Whenever Atriedes has a tummy upset, he gets a rash, usually on his abdomen, arms, and legs.

IBS comes in two main varieties: constipation, or diarrhea.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001292/

Of course, they say very contradictory and often stupid things like: "
Increase dietary fiber
Fiber supplements can make symptoms worse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irritable_bowel_syndrome

I have IBS constipation type tendency, although I have lately been regular. So yes, my bowel is probably a lot more sensitive and reactive to dietary changes then non IBS people.

And yes, from all the things I have so far read about IBS the main consensus seems to mostly be to increase dietary fiber and cut down the oh so evil fat. It really is hard to find something IBS related that doesn't have this approach. Fiber Menace being one of the exceptions.
 
Gertrudes said:
And yes, from all the things I have so far read about IBS the main consensus seems to mostly be to increase dietary fiber and cut down the oh so evil fat. It really is hard to find something IBS related that doesn't have this approach. Fiber Menace being one of the exceptions.

Our experience is that fiber can kill a person with IBS as almost happened with Atriedes. In my case, fiber kept me constipated for years.

BUT, having said that, one still has to deal with fats carefully too!
 

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