"Life Without Bread"

I thought it about time to check in. :)

Just lately I've restricted myself to far fewer veggies, just a medium sized avocado and about 25 grams of broccoli which I have with about 450 grams of pork belly chops. As a consequence I feel far less bloated and 'windy'. At this stage, I too, in common with others find it difficult to cut down significantly on the amount of protein I eat. As well as the pork mentioned above, breakfast comprises of 2 eggs, 3 or 4 rashes of bacon and roughly 150 -200 grams of ham. Anything less and hunger pangs kick in. As suggested no doubt the sensible approach would be to slowly reduce my intake, that is, if it is in fact too much at this juncture. In short experiment.

A little while back I was experiencing night cramp with my calf muscles but since I supplementing with potassium and Himalayan salt in water these have eased up. I think the problem was compounded for me because of the amount of cycling I do. :(

Other supplements I'm taking are l-carnitine ( 4 times 500mgs tablets), l-glutamine (500mgs), vit c, magnesium (250mgs) and cod liver oil. The latter I've increased from one tablespoon a day to three. (Just to ensure I'm getting sufficient omega -3, better too much than too little I reckon.)

Would these supplement amounts be about right (for me)? I weigh about 59 Kilos. I sometimes wonder if the daily recommended dosage that they suggest on the bottle of these products are the absolute bare minimum and maybe we should be taking more.

Are 3 tablespoons of cod liver oil a bit over the top?

Any comments much appreciated.
 
Laura said:
Courageous Inmate Sort said:
That is interesting to hear 1984. I have recently begun to play with raw meat. I'm still very cautious (especially because of bacteria or parasites) but I'm finding that it fills me up more than cooked meat. I'm eating thin slices or small cubes. I tried to put some condiments on it but the best taste was just pure red raw meat. Although salt sometimes is nice.

I've been researching the benefits of raw meat but I did not find good scientific data yet. I'll post here as soon as I do. Meanwhile there are some raw paleo forums and a guy called Aajonus Vonderplanitz who apparently eats only raw meat and some raw vegetables. They all speak wonders of eating raw meat. I thought it might be one way of dealing with some of the difficulties of digesting meat and fat, as raw meat seems to have enzymes that are degraded when cooked.

Cooking the food is a form of pre-digesting it and takes a lot of burden off the digestive tract. Sure, there's a trade-off, but this was discussed in the Paul Mellars/Neanderthal thread, I believe.

Laura, that is true for vegetables. However, it does not apply to raw meat and fat, which I've been eating and enjoying with absolutely NO problems whatsoever for over 9 years now. Cooking absolutely degrades the fat in particular by destroying lipase, the fat digesting enzyme, and by introducing AGEs and ALEs which cause severe harm in the body. The harm is so great that it is even visible on the skin, i.e., they are the cause of "liver spots," of which I have none at age 58.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_glycation_end-product
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_v127/ai_3762054/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18426758

Aajonus Vonderplanitz spews a bit of misinfo here and there (particularly in regards to dairy products, which I avoid for the most part), but he is right on the money when he says that parasites and bacteria are of little concern re raw meat and fat, as long as the animals are 100% forage-fed and well cared for, as opposed to the abused and poisoned animals raised in industrial CAFOs (see the film Food, Inc. to learn about those).

I grow my own beef and eat only that as well as other forage-fed meats from other grass farmers like myself, in particular, from family farmer extraordinaire Joel Salatin. www.polyfacefarms.com
 
RedFox said:
Laura said:
I must report that last night's experiment with cole slaw goes in the category of "I shouldn't have done that" for about everybody in the house. A few hours after eating, there were sudden, intense, horribly painful cramps and gas. Fortunately (for me, at least), it triggered a "fast exit" so I didn't suffer all night.

Today, however, I am bloated, brain fog, joints aching, feel like hell, more or less. The carb count was very low, but the raw cabbage was just evil. We'll try sauerkraut in a few weeks to see if that works.

I've tried a few raw vegetables, and I have trouble with all of them it seems (with the possible exception of carrots, cucumber and lettuce). Perhaps you could make cole slaw with chopped carrots/nuts instead of cabbage? A little apple cider for the tang the cabbage usually gives too.

Have you tried broccoli slaw? Fwiw, really delicious and offers the same crunch of cole slaw. Just peel the tough outer layer of broccoli stalks and trim off 1/4 inch from bottoms of stalks (should be about 3/4 of a pound of tender broccoli stalks remaining). Could probably blanch if pre-digestion is a concern, but still leaving broccoli crunchy. Shred stalks in food processor, then shred carrots. Combine shredded broccoli and carrots with mayo, a little xylitol, salt and pepper and toss to combine. Can sprinkle with nuts if tolerated and desired.
 
I've noticed since starting the diet that I have been smoking more. Could be that I'm smoking in the place of snacking or breaking my routine of eating (I eat two bigger meals and a snack of left over meat at night), but my frequency of of smoking seems to go beyond this. Has anyone else experienced the same?
 
Bear said:
I've noticed since starting the diet that I have been smoking more. Could be that I'm smoking in the place of snacking or breaking my routine of eating (I eat two bigger meals and a snack of left over meat at night), but my frequency of of smoking seems to go beyond this. Has anyone else experienced the same?

Yes I think I'm doing the same. I sometimes smoke to the point I get sick of it. And then a little while later I want another stick. Like right now. It really does feel like a snack.
 
Laura said:
PBPM has an entire chapter on fatty acids including arachidonic acid. She writes:


It is quite good! The way she puts it make it very clear why we all should supplement ourselves with omega 3s:

Deep within the cellular structure (chloroplasts) of plankton, green and leafy plants such as grass, and other sources such as walnuts and flaxseeds lies ALA [alpha-Linolenic acid], the "parent" form of a class of essential fatty acids known as omega-3 fatty acids. The term essential here means that something cannot be manufactured by the body and must be supplied by the diet. When a grass-eating animal or plankton-eating fish comes along and consumes this substance in plant foods, a series of enzymatic and metabolic conversions take place to transform the ALA into its derivative forms: EPA [eicosapentaenoic acid] and DHA [docosahexaenoic acid]. Herbivores make these conversions quite readily, though they are able to make only limited amounts of DHA. Humans make these conversions much less efficiently, and numerous factors may complicate this process.

To initiate this important metabolic conversion, a critical enzyme, known as delta-6 desaturase, must be present. It is essential to the process of elongation and desaturation into the active derivative forms of omega-3 fatty acids (EPA and DHA) from ALA. Once the body has either consumed or manufactured EPA, it can manufacture from this a series of eicosanoids such as series-3 prostaglandins, thromboxanes, and leukotrienes. All are essential to the functioning of the human body as complex hormones that work on the tissue or cellular level.

DHA, another derivative, makes up the highest percentage of the fatty acids in the human brain, facilitating visual and cognitive function, forming neuroreceptors for neurotransmitters such as serotonin and dopamine, and serving as a storage molecule that the body can reconvert to EPA if needed later on. Omega-3 fatty acids also make up a significant portion of all cellular membranes, giving them fluidity and helping facilitate all metabolic and bioerectrical processes. No one can function optimally without them.

[...]If We Used to Get So Much Omega-3 Fatty Acid, Where Did It All Go?

Traditional and primitive sources of EPA and DHA in the diet have included such things as the meat and organs of wild game and other exclu¬sively grass-fed meats and wild-caught cold-water seafood. At one time in our evolution, these essential fats were so prevalent in our diet that it is hypothesized that they alone were responsible for the threefold increase in the size of the human brain (Aiello et al. 1995). As much as 10 percent of human brain size has been lost in just the last century alone, likely due to the decreased amounts of available dietary EPA and DHA and the increased consumption of processed foods (Leonard et al. 2003).

Increased consumption of grains and legumes—as well as nuts, particularly, seeds, and, more recently, vegetable oils—added excessive levels bf another essential fatty acid: omega-6. Although omega-6 fatty acids are needed in balanced quantity with omega-3 fatty acids for optimal health, recent trends in agriculture, food processing, and animal husbandry practices have resulted in dangerous dietary imbalances. Because delta-6 and delta-5 desaturase enzymes are also needed for metabolism of omega-6 fatty acids, the resulting competition more often than not squeezes omega-3 fatty acids out of the picture. The result is that omega-6 fatty acids, along with trans fats and others, dominate the composition of membrane phospholipids and of fatty acids found in the brain and nervous system in the absence of the much needed omega-3 fatty acids. Excess omega-6 fatty acids—particularly in the presence of insulin—also results in excess production of series-2 Prostaglandins, many of which promote or exacerbate inflammatory processes.

In today's world, however, excess omega-6 fatty acids are not the only culprit interfering with delta-6 desaturase activity and the use of omega-3 fatty acids. Among the most insidious sources of interference with this vital nutrient are the man-made trans fats, found, in margarine, vegetable shortening, most commercial baked goods, nearly all fast foods, most pro-cessed foods, and commercial salad dressings and vegetable oils, includ¬ing all commercial canola and soybean oils. They may appear on labels as "hydrogenated" or "partially hydrogenated" substances.

Labeling laws do not require full disclosure of processing methods, however, due to certain loopholes in them, and the presence of trans fats in most commercial vegetable oils remains largely hidden. Once they are consumed, it can take at least two full years for the body to get rid of dietary trans fats, causing untold metabolic chaos in the meantime (Enig 2001). [...]

Deficiencies of biotin, vitamin E, protein, zinc, magnesium, and vitamins B12 and B6 all interfere with the action of delta-6 desaturase and other enzymes involved in healthy prostaglandin production. Consumption of sugar and starch also interferes with the desaturating enzymes, and the concomitant production of excess insulin can readily divert omega-6 fatty acid elongation toward proinflammatory prostaglandin pathways (Enig 2001). As if all this weren't dismal enough, diabetes, poor pituitary function, and low thyroid function are also synonymous with altered and inhibited delta-6 desaturase function.

Individuals of northern European, coastal Irish, Scandinavian, Inuit, and Native American descent may not produce this enzyme at all and may actually have an increased requirement for EPA and DHA due to genetic adaptation to the abundance of these substances in their ancestral diets. Deficiencies of omega-3 fatty acids and insulin resistance (metabolic disorders) are exceedingly common among these populations. [...]

Regardless of whether one makes these healthy dietary changes, it is likely that, for a time, some period of additional supplementa¬tion of the omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA from either fish oil or Antarctic krill oil may be necessary for remediation of deficiency states.

Supplements of flaxseed and hemp oils are commonly promoted as rich sources of vegetarian omega-3 fatty acids. Although this is true, flaxseed and hemp oils contain omega-3 fatty acid exclusively in its parent form, ALA, and they contain zero EPA or DHA. ALA requires the action of delta-6 desaturase and highly involved metabolic processes in order to be fully elongated and used by the body and brain in its most abundantly needed forms.

These conversions occur very inefficiently, if at all. Under optimal conditions and with certain individuals, one might expect a maximum of about 6 percent of the ALA in flaxseed oil to convert to EPA and about 4 percent to DHA—assuming none of the aforementioned limitations is present. Should excess omega-6 fatty acid or dietary trans fats be present, this reduces to an average of only about 2.7 percent proper conversion overall, at best (Enig 2001).

Clearly, flaxseed oil is not the most preferable source of omega-3 fatty acids—particularly in a deficient individual—though there may be other benefits to flaxseed oil supplementation, and small amounts are okay. Walnuts also contain some ALA. Cod-liver oil is an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids, rich in the EPA and DHA forms (also containing a little ALA, as well), but it is mainly a supplement for vitamin A and—to a lesser extent—vitamin D.

Regular fish oil or Antarctic krill oil supplements for omega-3 fatty acids, combined with small amounts of cod-liver oil, are far and away the best supplemental sources. Many companies molecularly distill their fish oil to remove any impurities or contaminants. Keep in mind that mercury t is generally concentrated in protein and not very fat soluble, so it's usually not considered a significant contaminant risk where fish oil is concerned. Also, sufficient tissue zinc and dietary selenium levels can help mitigate the potential for mercury toxicity and retention.

[...]

Other Important Essential Fatty Acid Considerations

Given the difficulty in relying on the activity—even the very presence—of the delta-6-desaturase enzyme in the metabolic conversions of parent and vegetable forms of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids to their active derivative forms, it is important to consider the plight of certain forms of omega-6 fatty acid as well. Delta-6-desaturase is also responsible for the conversion of alpha-linoleic acid (ALA, the parent form of omega-6 fatty acid) to gamma-linolenic acid (GLA), an important precursor to dihomo-gamma-linolenic acid (DGLA), which is naturally abundant in liver and other organ meats. In turn, DGLA gives rise to series-1 prostaglandins, which are necessary for certain anti-inflammatory actions as well as mood regulation, cognitive function, hormonal balance, and prevention and treatment of skin disorders, and they may be conditionally essential.

It is probably advisable for most people to consider supplementation with small amounts (the recommended dosages on labels are probably sufficient for most people) of either black currant seed oil or evening primrose oil to cover this base and prevent imbalances from occurring. Borage seed oil, although arguably the richest natural source of GLA, contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids that are known to be hepatotoxic. I'd avoid making this my sole source of GLA. Also, be certain these delicate seed oils are labeled as hexane and solvent-free.

There are essentially three classes of prostaglandins. Prostaglandins are hormonelike substances made from essential fatty acids that operate on a cellular level to mitigate inflammation and various bodily processes.

Series-1 prostaglandins arise from GLA, a unique form of omega-6 fatty acid found in evening primrose oil, borage seed oil, and blackcurrant seed oil, and from DGLA, which is found in organ meats. Both have an anti-inflammatory effect.

Series-2 prostaglandins are manufactured from arachidonic acid (AA), also an omega-6 fatty acid, which is commonly found in organ meats, animal fat (especially pork), eggs, butter, and seaweed, They are typically associated with proinflammatory processes (though this is a little overly simplistic). Both inflammatory and anti-inflammatory com- pounds can result from AA, and this is partly mitigated by the presence of insulin.

Series-3 prostaglandins are manufactured from omega-3 fatty acids, more specifically EPA, and are found abundantly in exclusively grass-fed meats, wild-caught cold-water fish (such as salmon and sar¬dines), fish oil, and krill oil supplements.

Worthy of comment here is the widespread controversy and vilification of arachidonic acid (AA), an important form of omega-6 fatty acids, by the popular writer Barry Sears, author of The Zone Diet, who insists that this omega-6 fatty acid is to be avoided at all costs due to its proinflammatory properties.

Commonly found in liver, butter, and eggs, AA comprises 11 per¬cent of the fatty acids found in the brain, and it is absolutely required for healthy cognitive functioning as well as being necessary for healthy inflammatory response following injury. There is also more recent evi¬dence that the interaction of AA with vitamins A and D is absolutely essential for healthy neurotransmitter functioning. It is additionally the precursor to what are known as series-2 prostaglandins, some of which are inflammatory and some of which are anti-inflammatory.

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For those of you who are having bad carb cravings, here are some suggestions by Nora Gedgaudas. She also includes some anti-glycating supplements.

Primal Body said:
Taming the Carb-craving Monster

Note: It is not necessarily suggested that you need to take all the supplements presented below. This list is merely a guide to many action and substances that are known to be additionally helpful to the basic dietary guidelines presented.

• Eliminate sugars and starches from the diet. (Note: If you al: extremely insulin resistant or diabetic, it may take you a longer time to undergo the metabolic conversion allowing for the use of fat as a primary source of fuel, which may best be facilitated by and accomplished in tandem with the use of additional support supplements.)
• Consume moderate amounts of nutrient-dense protein and enough natural dietary fat to satisfy your hunger. This greatly helps normlize blood sugar levels. Be sure to get adequate amounts of essential fatty acids, particularly EPA, DHA, and GLA.
• Regularly take a B-complex supplement with meals (preferably are that is whole food complex—based or coenzymated). B vitamins assist in improving carbohydrate metabolism. Vitamin B1 and daily its fat-soluble derivatives allithiamine and benfotiamine can greatly help reduce glycation. From 100 to 250 mg or more per day is the common dosage.
• L-carnosine is an amino acid that can serve as a powerful neuroprotective, antiglycating nutrient. From 500 to 1000mg one or two times daily, is a tipical dose.
L-carnitine (not to be confused with L-carnosine) is a quaternary ammonium compound and an amino acid derivative, not an actual amino acid, and is necessary for transporting fatty acids into the mitochondria, where they can be burned for energy. It can reduce the time it takes to convert from sugar burning to fat burning in resistant individuals. From 2,000 to 5,000 mg per day may be helpful.
,• Acetyl-L-carnitine is fat soluble and is better able to protect and aid in fueling the brain than regular L-carnitine. It is ultimately antiglycating and, especially in tandem with R-lipoic acid, has been shown in studies to markedly reverse neuropathy. From 500 to 2,000 mg per day may yield beneficial results.
• Chromium is a trace mineral essential to the normalization of glucose metabolism and is commonly deficient. From 200 to 400 mcg per day of chromium picolinate or GTF chromium is usually sufficient.
• R-lipoic acid, which functions as an antioxidant, is uniquely effective against both fat-soluble and water-soluble free radi- cals, can prevent and even help reverse glycation, can improve blood sugar metabolism, and can improve cellular energy pro- duction. From 50 to 250 mg per day or more may be needed by some people.
• Benfotiamine is a powerful, fat-soluble version of vitamin B1 that is known to significantly inhibit the formation of AGEs and help prevent damage to nerves and small blood vessels caused by glucose. Its fat solubility also gives it better overall bioavailability and aids its passage to the interior of the cell so that it can prevent glycation within the cell, where our vulnerable DNA lies. Doses of from 100 to 250 mg per day have been used in studies, often with dramati¬cally positive effects.
• Pyridoxamine is a unique form of vitamin B6 that specifically interferes with toxic glycation reactions. It is among the most potent natural substances for inhibiting AGE formation. Doses of from 50 to 100 mg have commonly been used in studies that
reported beneficial effects. It is so effective, in fact, that the FDA has blatantly sought to reclassify this natural nutrient as a drug. I'll spare you my colorful comments on this.
• Trans-resveratrol is found in grape skins and red wine. This com-pound has shown itself to potentially have many dramatic and excit¬ing benefits to health, among them significantly improving insulin sensitivity. The downside is its exorbitant cost. Recommendations include taking no less than 100 mg per day to supposedly relatively mimic the benefits seen in laboratory animals. Be especially careful of sources. The cis form of resveratrol is completely ineffective but is widely sold in commercial resveratrol supplements simply labeled "resveratrol." Read the label carefully. Only the trans form of resveratrol is known to be of benefit.
• CoQ10 (in the form of ubiquinol) helps support healthy mitochondrial
function, serves as a powerful fat-soluble antioxidant, and can greatly improve oxygen and energy use. It is found in every major organ, espe¬cially the heart, and is dramatically and dangerously depleted by the use of statin drugs. Common dosage ranges from 50-300 mg (note: err on the higher dose if you hae a history of statin drug use).
Omega-3 fish oil or Antarctic krill oil has something to offer to almost everyone. Getting adequate amounts is critically important. This vital nutrient often calms or eliminates carbohydrate crav¬ings and can greatly enhance insulin sensitivity, as well as help curb inflammation and enhance mood and cognitive function.
L-glutamine, an amino acid, can stop cravings for sweets, starches, and alcohol instantly as the brain is able to use L-glutamine tem¬porarily for fuel. It is also the number one food for enterocytes, the cells lining the small intestine, and can greatly help regenerate the gastrointestinal mucosa. It usually comes in 500 mg cap¬sules and needs to be taken on an empty stomach for best effect. Start with the lowest dose and increase as necessary. It can also be absorbed sublingually (sprinkled under the tongue) for a more immediate effect. Up to 5 g (5,000 mg) or even more may be necessary. Loose powders are widely available and quite palatable if larger doses are needed. (Caution: Refrain from using L-glutamine if you knowingly have cancer, as L-glutamine can serve to fuel certain types of tumor growth.)
• Candida overgrowth can create severe carbohydrate cravings in some people. Addressing this issue can be key for them. Numerous supplemental and detox approaches exist for candida problems.
• For people who crave carbohydrates under stress, gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA, an amino acid) or GABA-enhancing compounds such as L-theanine can be helpful.
,• For people who are addicted to carbohydrate comfort foods due to a lack of adequate endorphin production, the amino acid D-phenylalanine can be helpful in enhancing endorphin levels and subsequently reducing cravings.
• For some people, what appears to be a simple case of "carb cravings" may, in fact, be related to an addiction to the exorphins (morphine-like compounds) in grains and to hidden gluten sensitivity. Getting tested for gluten sensitivity through either Cyrex Labs (www.cyrex¬labs.com) or EnteroLab (www.enterolab.com) can be the first step to getting to the bottom of a much deeper problem.
• The herb Gymnema sylvestre, taken in 4 g (4,000 mg) increments three times a day, can usually eliminate most, if not all, cravings for sweets. In extremely addicted individuals, twice this dose may be needed to successfully eliminate cravings. This is a great tool that can be likened to using bicycle training wheels while dietary modifications are being made. After a time, the herb will no longer be needed, once healthier eating habits are adopted. It also possesses compounds that can support the restoration of insulin sensitivity.
• Eliminate the use of caffeine and other stimulants. Stimulants aggravate blood sugar problems and deplete two important neurotransmitters, serotonin and norepinephrine, adversely affecting mood and energy.
• Sometimes a person craving carbohydrates is merely starved for adequate protein and, more specifically, L-triptophan, the least abundant amino acid in our food supply. Supplementing with appropriate doses of L-tryptophan can calm these cravings and help restore healthy neurotransmitter (serotonin) function. Start with one 500 mg capsule on an empty stomach and increase the dose by one capsule each half hour until a feeling of increased well¬being is achieved. Do not use L-tryptophan if you are currently
taking antidepressants such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) or monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs), except under the guidance of a knowledgeable health care practitioner.
Try adding some pancreatic lipase on an empty stomach. Deficiencies of lipase are common in people who have trouble managing blood sugar, and supplementation can improve your ability to digest and use fats instead of sugar for fuel! (Pancreatic lipase is found typically as part of a pancreatic enzyme—complex supplement.)
• Seek to reduce or eliminate the unnecessary use of over-the-counter and prescription medications.
• Stop smoking. Duh! {clearly, she is clueless on this one}
• Eliminate the use of alcohol.
• Avoid alternative, "natural" sweeteners such as honey, rice syrup, rice syrup, fructose, agave nectar, and maple syrup.
Stevia is a carbohydrate-free sweetener derived from a South American herb. It is anywhere from two hundred to three hundred times sweeter than sugar and is therefore used only in very small amounts. Extracts containing steviosides (active herbal compounds) have been shown to benefit blood sugar stability. It is the only sugar substitute I am comfortable recommending for all but the most sugar-reactive individuals. Stevia is widely sold in health food stores and many supermarkets. It works very well in beverages and can be used in cooking. It can be purchased in refined form in packets, in liquid extracts, and as a powdered herb. The brand of stevia I've found that is the least refined (short of growing it yourself in an herb garden, which many people do) is Stevita, which can be pur¬chased at www.stevitastevia.com. Caution: Sweet tastes can foster sweet cravings.
• Eliminate the use of aspartame (Nutrasweet), sucralose (Splenda), acesulfame-K (Sweet-One), saccharin (Sweet-n-Low), and all other artificial sweeteners. Period. Avoid them like the plague. Studies show these substances are more likely to make you fat than thin and can increase your risk for cancer and numerous other health problems.
• Eliminate all MSG. It is an excitotoxin that has been shown to directly cause leptin resistance and induce obesity
in addition to being markedly toxic and readily damaging to the brain.
• Identify and eliminate foods to which you may be allergic or sensitive. This can be an extremely problematic source of cortisol-induced, unwanted insulin production and weight gain. Elimination/ provocation diets are the gold standard and the most affordable method of diagnosis. Grains (gluten) and dairy (casein) are the most common offenders, followed by soy, peanuts, and corn. Chicken eggs are also commonly problematic for many people. Cyrex Labs (www.cyrexlabs.com) has extremely accurate test¬ing. A stool antigen test by Enterolab (www.enterolab.com) can be reliably diagnostic of several common food sensitivities as well.
• Get a good night's sleep. Don't be a night owl. Studies repeatedly show sleep deprivation as strongly correlated with decreased insulin sensitivity and unwanted weight gain, along with other problems. Try to get at least six to eight quality hours of sleep every single night, as we were designed to do!
• Exercise daily, or at least three to five times per week. Short bouts of high-intensity interval training or exertion-and-resistance train¬ing are most effective. Exercise has been shown to decidedly help improve insulin sensitivity. Exercise such as this immediately fol-lowing a meal containing carbohydrates also can help burn off some of the sugar.
• Give special attention to stress management. Increased levels of stress hormones (e.g., cortisol) may significantly elevate blood sugar levels and insulin production, as well as suppress the immune sys-tem. Actively cultivate stress-reduction habits—or else!

Note: Cravings for sugar, alcohol, or carbohydrates, as well as cravings for stimulants such as caffeine, may be an indication of serotonin deple-tion. Chronic use of these substances actually depletes serotonin over time and can lead to low levels of this important neurotransmitter. This lack of serotonin can either generate or exacerbate cognitive deficits, as well as depressive, labile, or anxious states—particularly in susceptible individu¬als (Schwarzbein and Deville 1999).
 
Here, we come back again to the importance of proper hydration which is often underestimated:

Primal Body said:
Next to oxygen, water is the most important substance we put into our bodies. Most of us fail to get enough of it. It is used in every metabolic process in the human body and is utterly essential to the function of the human brain and nervous system. The human body mass is composed of roughly 55 to 60 percent water at minimum and the human brain of 70 to 80 percent water. The human body can produce about 8 percent of its water needs from its own metabolic processes. That leaves 92 percent that must be obtained through diet. Caffeinated beverages and alcohol cause dehydration, as do stress and physical activity. Replenishing the body with substantial amounts of pure, clean water is critical. No nutrient in the body can function without water. And the body's bioelectrical system is nonexistent without it.

[...]

Contaminants and other substances combined with water ultimately make water less hydrating. This is why pure water from almost any source is always more hydrating than, say, juice or tea. Sweetened "sports drinks" may enhance the retention of water (through extracellular bloating), but they are inefficient at actually rehydrating the inside of your cells, where water is most needed. Save your money on these heavily marketed products and stick to pure, clean (or possibly ionically enhanced) water instead
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Without ample purified water, life is not possible—nor is health or', optimal brain function. We are only in our infancy with respect to our scientific comprehension of what water actually is and what it does within and surrounding our cells. One thing we know for certain is that it is essential to critical cellular communication on all levels and is the single most important substance for life.

Often, what may seem like a complex physical or emotional issue is little more than chronic dehydration. Losing as little as 2 percent in your body's water content through diuresis or dehydration can result in noticeable fatigue. A drop of 10 percent can cause problems ranging from musculoskeletal issues (e.g., joint pain, back pain, cramps) to digestive problems (e.g., heartburn, constipation), immune problems or allergies, and even cardiovascular symptoms or anginal pain.

The importance of this foundational substance, which is essential to all life, should never, ever be underestimated.

Save your money by avoiding sodas, juices, and other unnatural, unnecessary, and sugary beverages. Water is always best. And it's afford-able. Among dehydrating beverages are caffeine, alcohol, some herbal teas, all juices, and sodas. Be sure to add another 12 to 16 ounces of pure water to, your daily intake for every 8 ounces of diuretic beverage consumed. For further excellent information, look for the book Your Body's Many Cries for Water, by F. Batmanghelidj, M.D. Also see the Water Cure website, at www.watercure.com.

Symptoms potentially associated with chronic dehydration include:

• depression
• stress
• dyspeptic pain
• colitis pain
• false appendicitis pain
• hiatal hernia
• rheumatoid arthritis pain
• low-back pain
• neck pain
• anginal pain
• anxiety
• headaches
• high blood pressure
• high blood cholesterol levels
• excess body weight
• excess hunger
• asthma and allergies
• chronic fatigue
• irritability
• constipation
• cognitive impairment

Feeling symptomatic? If in doubt, try drinking a tall glass of pure, clean water! But please make sure it's properly purified and filtered first.
 
Psyche said:
For those of you who are having bad carb cravings, here are some suggestions by Nora Gedgaudas. She also includes some anti-glycating supplements.
Thank you for posting this Psyche as I was just thinking this morning that my carb cravings for pineapple at night is my main crutch right now. I eat my mostly carbs for dinner, because I find that eating protein at night slows down my digestive track. I am already taking things like milk thistle, etc, to help with that, but it's still an issue if I eat meat for dinner.

So, I'm thinking of switching from fish oil to krill oil supplements, but I just can't figure out which one is best even after reading up on other websites. I think I take fish oil because it's the more common of the two, but some people say krill better, hmm...And this L-glutamine might be good for me to try too, I'm thinking. Thanks again for this post!
 
Incognito posted some parts of the book Primal Body, Primal Mind having to do with the reason why we have to moderate protein intake and why we should not eat more than 25 grams at a time in one meal. Here is more of the reasons as to why this is so important:

Primal Body said:
All energy production in the earliest primordial times was fermentative and anaerobic. These two nutrients eventually established the basis and driving force behind reproduction for all organisms, and, consequently, behind aging and life span.

The first living cells were prokaryotic in nature; each one was identical to the next, much like bacteria, lacking a nucleus and feeding anaerobically on sugars.

Later, development of an oxygen-based atmosphere allowed for evolution into eukaryotic cells (possessing a nucleus), which allowed for cellular differentiation into organs, eyes, skin, and other tissues, making higher organisms possible. The developing presence of oxygen—essentially among the first waste products of Earth's earliest life-forms—eventually allowed for the use of fat as a nutrient for the first time. Eukaryotic cells are fueled aerobically and use fatty acids and ketones for this purpose, just as most human and other mammalian cells do today. Fat is an aerobic nutrient and forms the basis of aerobic metabolism. Herein lies the dis- tinction between the two energy sources: aerobic and anaerobic forms.

One theory of how cancers develop involves the idea that an excessively fermentative, acidic, sugar-rich, and anaerobic environment (known to be friendly to cancer growth) somehow simulates our earliest primordial environment and stimulates the reversion of some cells to their primordial, prokaryotic state. Tumors are basically masses of undifferentiated, identical cells with a weak protein matrix that feed exclusively on sugars. In other words, when the environment is ripe—when the availability of sugar is high and a fermentative, acidic, and anaerobic environment is allowed to take hold—this primordial component of our genetic makeup is somehow triggered and stimulates cells into an unhealthy, abnormal, and exceedingly primitive form of cellular proliferation. Healthy cellular differentiation cannot occur in a fermentative environment. This certainly presents a plausible model for carcinogenesis as well as other unhealthy forms of cellular proliferation.

The development of an oxygen-based atmosphere eventually allowed for the use of fat as an important energy source. In the evolution of more-complex organisms such as mammals, it is fat that serves as the primary, most efficient source of fuel. Leptin, which is the key fat sensor in the body, then controls and regulates all our energy stores via the hypothalamus, which manages the signals given to every other hormone in the body.

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Evidence of the effects of caloric restriction in slowing aging and extending youth can be found in its abilities to prevent the immune dysfunctions of old age, improve DNA repair abilities, reduce damaging free-radical activity, lower glucose and insulin levels, maintain fertility at advanced ages, boost energy levels, increase protein synthesis, reduce the accumulation of damaged proteins, inhibit the inflammatory responses of aging, lower the levels of cholesterol and triglycerides in the blood, counteract neural degeneration, and prevent the age-related decline in the health-building hormone dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA).

Caloric restriction also prevents or postpones the incidence of and reduces the severity of diseases such as cancer, kidney disease, and cardio-vascular disease (Masoro 2003).

It is also known today to be additionally important that adequate vitamins, minerals, and nutrients be supplied or added to caloric restriction approaches to avoid nutrient deficiencies. The idea is to limit calories, not nutrients (Nicolas et al. 1999). Therefore, nutrient density also plays a very important role.

Longevity enthusiasts who attempt to apply the earlier caloric restriction research by attempting to sustain themselves each day on a single kumquat and a tablespoon of oatmeal are gravely missing the point, to say nothing of living an unnecessarily stress-inducing, deprivation-oriented life. No such thing is necessary, nor is it really helping them arrive at their hoped-for objective. Recently popularized raw-food vegan diets can achieve temporary improvements by essentially down-regulating insulin and mTOR (and through such diets being generally detoxifying). The problem here is multifold, however. In addition to the fact that we as humans lack four stomachs and cud-chewing ruminant tendencies to maximize the use of plant-based foods to meet all our needs, such a diet ' completely fails to provide many essential animal-source nutrients needed, for long-term maintenance of our health, our brain, our nervous system, and our vitality. Without adequate fat to normalize leptin (among countless other things) or complete protein sources to allow for critical rebuild¬ing and maintenance, such dietary approaches ultimately do far more depletive harm than good in the long run.

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Modern studies of healthy human centenarians, those people who are one hundred years old and older, have revealed the presence of a certain class of genes that seem to be activated in these individuals. Called sirtuins, they have come to be known as our longevity genes. In mammals, one of these genes is referred to as SIRT-I (in worms, it is called SIR-2 In certain fortunate people who appear to age unusually gracefully and remain vital to extremely old age, the SIRT-1 gene just sort of seems to inherently activated, for unknown lucky reasons. This is why certain lived people can claim not to have taken particular care of their health and still seem to make it to very old age. [...] Recently, a nutrient found in red wine called resveratrol was shown to have the effect of activating this gene. It has also been clearly demonstrated that calorie restriction similarly activates these genes in all organisms and has all the same beneficial effects.

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The newly discovered genes are called SIRT-3 and SIRT-4. Like SIRT-1, they are part of the larger class of sirtuins. The newly discovered role of SIRT-3 and SIRT 4 confirmed the particular importance of mitochondria as vital for sustaining the health and longevity of a cell.

Mitochondria, cellular organs that are found in the cytoplasm, are often considered to be the cell's battery packs or energy-producing factories. When mitochondria become compromised by particular stressors, energy is drained out of a cell and its days are numbered. This, in turn, compromises our energy production, health, and metabolic efficiency. Sinclair and his colleagues discovered that SIRT-3 and SIRT-4 play a vital role in a longevity network that maintains the vitality of the mitochondria and keeps cells healthy when they would otherwise die. The most powerful method found of activating these life-saving and life-extending genes is caloric restriction.

When cells undergo caloric restriction, signals sent in through the cell membrane activate an enzyme called nicotinamide phosphoribosyl-transferase (NAMPT). As levels of NAMPT ramp up, a small molecule called nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD+) begins to amass in the mitochondria. This, in turn, causes the activity of enzymes created by the SIRT-3 and SIRT-4 genes—enzymes that live in the mitochondria—to increase as well. As a result, the mitochondria grow stronger, energy out¬put increases, and the cell's aging process slows down significantly.

In laboratory experiments, certain animal subjects have had their healthy life span extended by 30-60 percent—sometimes even by 300¬400 percentusing methods of optimized caloric restriction! The impli¬cations are staggering. The same basic mechanism seems to exist across all species studied, from yeast to even primates (like us).

But Why Does Caloric Restriction Work?

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Insulin in these simple life-forms has nothing to do with blood sugar regulation, but instead is entirely designed to regulate reproduction and actual life span. Subsequent research has confirmed this role of insulin across all species, including primates.

How much insulin we produce over the course of our lives controls how long we live! And it turns out, the less insulin we need, the better.

Studies looking at the effects of insulin levels on human health and longevity are emerging, and the picture is quite clear. One study showed that over a ten-year period, the risk of dying was almost twice as great for people with the highest insulin levels than for those with the lowest levels. The study authors stated that excess insulin, or hyperinsulinemia, associated with increased all-cause and cardiovascular mortality, independent of other risk factors (Dekker et al. 2005). High levels of serum insulin promote high blood pressure by impairing sodium balance. Prolonged exposure to excess insulin can severely compromise the vascular system. By acting as a catalyst in promoting cellular proliferation, excess insulin also increases the risk for and progression of certain cancers. High insulin levels promote the formation of beta-amyloid in brain cells and may contribute to the development of Alzheimer's disease. Overproduction of insulin even contributes to prostate enlargement by helping to promote the overgrowth of prostate cells. Insulin resistance, a by-product of chronic excess insulin production, is associated with the development of abdominal obesity and health problems such as atherosclerosis and impotence. Furthermore, insulin resistance and obesity are risk factors for type 2 diabetes mellitus. Hyperinsulinemia is, in fact, a predictive factor for type 2 diabetes mellitus.

It turns out that insulin is an extremely ancient molecule and exists in identical form in everything from yeast cells to humans. Far from its formerly perceived, limited role in nutrient storage or even blood sugar control (a trivial sideline for insulin), insulin is now being understood as something far more important and fundamental to the very underlying mechanisms of our health and longevity. In monitoring our energy availability, while leptin oversees the actual energy stores, it is insulin that switches on and off the extremely ancient mechanisms that allow us to outlive what our body thinks is an apparent famine.

That's the clue to as to how we beat Mother Nature at her own game. The down-regulation of insulin (and mTOR) triggers the up-regulation of repair and maintenance on a cellular level that allows us to remain healthy until food becomes more available and we can finally reproduce. Bingo.

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Research across the board has shown that long-lived individuals (animals and humans) share the following characteristics:

• low fasting insulin levels
• low fasting glucose levels
• optimally low leptin levels
• low triglyceride levels
• low percentage of visceral body fat
• lower body temperature
• reduced thyroid levels

Low thyroid levels, you say? Isn't that a bad thing?

The idea here is that a reduced caloric load, which results in the almost exclusive use of fat for fuel and optimal nutrient intake, improves metabolic efficiency. [...] In a human clinical study article titled "Clinical Experience of a Diet Designed to Reduce Aging," the authors remarked, "It has been stated that the reduction in T3 and body temperature could alter the aging process by reflecting a reducing metabolic rate, oxidative stress and systemic inflammation" (Rosedale et al. 2009).

{Description about a twenty-year study on the effects of caloric restriction on primates published on "Science". The primates were rhesus monkeys which are very similar to humans even in terms of diet.}

Twenty years later, only 63 percent of the monkeys that ate as much as they wanted were still alive. Thirty-seven percent of them had died from age-related causes. And the caloric-restriction group? Eighty-seven per-cent of them were still alive, and only 13 percent had died of age-related causes. Throughout their lives, the calorically restricted group maintained superior health and aging-related biomarkers in every area: brain health, metabolic health and rate, insulin sensitivity, and cardiovascular vitality. The monkeys in the caloric-restriction group enjoyed a threefold reduction in age-related disease! Also, they lost fat weight but maintained healthy levels of lean tissue mass. They also retained greater brain volume, which nor¬mally shrinks with age and glycation, but more than that, they retained superior cognitive function. The cardiovascular disease rate of the caloric-restriction group was fully half the rate of the control group. Forty percent of the monkeys in the control group developed diabetes or prediabetes. Not one single monkey in the calorically restricted group developed either.

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Another area of human longevity research getting a lot of publicity these days involves manipulating the length of something called a telom-ere. Telomeres are sequences of nucleic acids extending from the ends of chromosomes that act to maintain chromosomal integrity. Every time our cells divide, telomeres are shortened, leading to cellular damage and cellular death associated with aging. Shorter telomeres have been associated with significantly higher cancer incidence. In fact, a recent Italian study showed that people with shorter telomeres have ten times the cancer risk of those with longer telomeres (and those with short telomeres were twice as likely to die from cancer) (Armanios et al. 2009).

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Drug companies, of course, are looking for ways to enhance telomerase any way they can. In fact, look for other upcoming supplements and, possibly, life extension—related media¬tions claiming to do just this. What they won't tell you, however, is that caloric restriction also preserves and may even also reverse telomere length.

[If] you apply the caloric-restriction model in a way that does not leave you hungry, which is exactly what this book tells you how to do. Just follow the simple, most basic dietary guidelines outlined here to eat optimally well, and you will feel fully satisfied, live healthier and longer, and even save some real money along the way! Even while buying the best-quality produce, grass-fed meats, and wild-caught fish, you can find yourself saving considerable money on groceries. The basic guideline to remember is this: Greatly restrict or eliminate sugar and starch (preferably eliminating gluten completely); keep your protein intake adequate (roughly the RDA: 44-56 g per day or 0.8 g of protein/ kg of ideal body weight), amounting to a total of approximately 6 to 7 ounces of organic eggs, grass-fed, or wild-caught meat or seafood per day; eat as many fibrous, "aboveground," nonstarchy vegetables and greens as you like; and eat as much fat (from fattier cuts of meat or fish, nuts, seeds, avocados, coconut, butter or ghee, olives, olive oil, and other sources) as you need to satisfy your appetite. The bottom line here is that natural dietary fat is not at all our enemy and that, in the absence of dietary carbohydrate and with adequate protein, eating natural dietary fat can result in a far more satisfying, longer, and healthier life overall.
 
Laura said:
Thor said:
FWIW, from a chef I know I was recommended to use avocado oil instead of olive oil to get rid of the bitter taste, when making mayonnaise. Organic avocado oil is obviously preferred. The only down-side is that it is quite expensive, so often time I mix 50-50 avocado and olive oil and the result is much better. However, using 100% avocado oil gives the most delicious and also beautiful mayonnaise you can imagine :P

Hmmm... have to try that! But obviously you can't use it for everyday! I've been wondering about using clarified bacon fat. I bet that would taste delicious!

I will have to try avocado oil too. I use organic walnut oil and it is delicious - could probably eat it alone by the spoonful :lol:. I have also used grapeseed oil and like that as well, as long as it is the light colored one. The greenish grapeseed oil has a very strong taste. Have used olive oil and don't care for the taste.
 
They've uploaded a few video recordings from the presentations at the Ancestral Health symposium, have a look:

_http://vimeo.com/ancestralhealthsymposium/videos/
 
Aragorn said:
They've uploaded a few video recordings from the presentations at the Ancestral Health symposium, have a look:

_http://vimeo.com/ancestralhealthsymposium/videos/

The abstracts and the slides are also here: http://www.ancestryfoundation.org/

I'm certain that there is very good stuff. Gedgaudas herself recommends that website and the founder also wrote an intro for her book. But I ain't holding my breath, I follow must of the blogs of all the guys who participated and a lot of them are really into carbs and questionable science. They often quote each other as well to support this. At least this is the impression that I got. Others have very good stuff and we try to publish often their material on sott.net
 
Here are the list of supplements to heal the gut:

Primal Body said:
Once a food to which one is sensitive has been removed, a regimen of supplementation for no less than a year and preferably two can help restore gastrointestinal, mucosal integrity, calm the inflammatory cycle, and improve immunologic function. A list of the principle supplements for accomplishing this follows.

• L-glutamine: primary source of fuel for enterocytes; helps to fuel the regeneration of a damaged small intestine.

• Probiotics (various strains): help to restore normal gut health and immune response.

• Grass-fed bovine colostrum: functions to reduce inflammation, pro¬tects against irritation from toxins, checks any potential infection while promoting epithelial growth and repair (helping to reduce excess permeability and leaky gut), can help promote recolonization by friendly gut flora, and is a very potent immune system modulator.

• Proline-rich polypeptides also known, as colostrinin): are composed of a group of related polypeptides derived from bovine colostrum that have the unique ability to stabilize and modulate both immune and cytokine (inflammatory) processes in the body. Pure bovine proline-rich polypeptides are available in oral sprays that can greatly enhance the effectiveness of restorative therapies.

• Vitamin D3: helps support healthy immune function, mitigates inflammation, and can help restore normal intestinal permeability.

{Psyche: but consider what she writes about vitamin D, I quoted it in this post: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,19723.msg283214.html#msg283214}

• Omega-3 fish oil or krill oil (supplement for EPA, in particular): helps promote production of anti-inflammatory prostaglandins.

• Curcumin (found in turmeric): has a powerful anti-inflammaton¬effect.
 
Psyche said:
• Vitamin D3: helps support healthy immune function, mitigates inflammation, and can help restore normal intestinal permeability.

{Psyche: but consider what she writes about vitamin D, I quoted it in this post: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,19723.msg283214.html#msg283214}

From what I gather, it is very important to make sure your Vitamin A supplement is matched by your Vitamin D intake or an imbalance can arise. I take cod liver oil which is high in Vitamin A (2500IU) but only has 400IU of Vitamin D so I supplement with 2000IU of Vitamin D3 as well to keep them in balance. Hopefully, that does the trick. :)
 

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