"Life Without Bread"

[ScarletBegonias]

Some of my tablets (Magnesium for example) are a bit too big to swallow, and I was wondering if it's okay to chew them into smaller pieces and then swallow them with water?

I was also wondering which fish oil supplements you guys are using? I see that in many supplements soy derivatives are present.

Have you tried putting them under your tongue right before you take a drink? I do this and can swallow maybe like ten vitamins at once, but also a little air in the gulp. When the liquid enters your mouth pulling your tongue back immediately will cause the liquid to sweep them up and I am able to gulp them down easily that way. Well, this is just my method and I hope it helps...

I am also having difficulties with getting supplements without so many potentially harmful additives. I just bought Nature Made Omega 3 Fish Oil (_http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Made-Omega-3-Fish-1200/dp/B001OBNIGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313749838&sr=8-1) and the other ingredients listed are: gelatin, glycerin, water, tocopherol...Contains soy...:/

I just received my order of l-gutamine in the mail yesterday (Source Naturals 500mg capsules) and the ingredients list maltodextrin, but that wasn't in the description online when I ordered it. I plan to return them, but don't know what brand is good for l-glutamine. Does anybody know of one without maltodextrin?

 

[truth seeker]

For what it's worth, I purchased it in the powder form in an attempt to sidestep that issue and got the brand below. It only lists l-glutamine as the ingredient.

_http://www.bluebonnetnutrition.com/product/24/L-Glutamine_Powder

 

[Gawan]

I just received my order of l-gutamine in the mail yesterday (Source Naturals 500mg capsules) and the ingredients list maltodextrin, but that wasn't in the description online when I ordered it. I plan to return them, but don't know what brand is good for l-glutamine. Does anybody know of one without maltodextrin?

Try to look for 100% powder, so that are no hidden things in it. Some fitness stores should be selling it.

Edit:

But I would definitely send it back, cause Maltodextrin is evil!

Some of my tablets (Magnesium for example) are a bit too big to swallow, and I was wondering if it's okay to chew them into smaller pieces and then swallow them with water?

I was also wondering which fish oil supplements you guys are using? I see that in many supplements soy derivatives are present.

Gedgaudas writes about it in her book, so there are differences between the oils: there is fishoil, cod-liver oil and krill-oil. She recommends mostly krill oil, but it is very expensive or a good fish-oil. Codliver-oil is not that rich in omega 3 fats and has more vitamin a.

 

[Jacques]

The first thing I thought of when you [Gandalf] mentioned hiking and biking was jerky. Have you tried that? I think I might try to get some of this myself - it might be a good way to go for snacks. Adding fat somehow would probably be key.

Pemmican is ground jerky in a beef tallow (or dripping or suet) matrix. I use a homemade bar (there are recipes here on the forum) of it for lunch when walking in the mountains. It is a very concentrated protein source

Thanks to both of you.

I'm going to try that next time.

 

[Tina]

[quote author=Scarlet]
I just received my order of l-gutamine in the mail yesterday (Source Naturals 500mg capsules) and the ingredients list maltodextrin, but that wasn't in the description online when I ordered it. I plan to return them, but don't know what brand is good for l-glutamine. Does anybody know of one without maltodextrin?
[/quote]

Hi Scarlet,

I get mine from NutraBio.com in powder form, 100% pure pharmaceutical grade.
http://www.nutrabio.com/Products/glutamine.htm

 

[Angchop]

Hi Angela, in the sluggish liver thread, there is a post that describes the procedure of cleaning gallstones with grapefruit juice and epsom salts. It is worth to read the whole thread though, as it is packed with important information on how to clean the liver.
Having said that, and as it was advised to me at the time, it is probably best to start by cleaning the liver by taking milk thistle and perhaps the juice of half a lemon with two tbsp of olive oil first thing in the morning, and only after having done this for a couple of weeks going for harsher measures with the gallbladder cleanse. You'll find more details on that thread though.

Thanks for the response-I am familiar with the liver cleanse. Back in 2001 I was looking online and found the Curezone website and how to do a liver flush. I have done a few with very good results. Now I am just a little bit worried that I can't or shouldn't do one. I have had my bladder removed, and I now have a pouch that I have to put a catheter in to drain. Plus I have one kidney that works fine, but the other one not so much. I am not sure if it would be too harsh on my kidney. I will definately get some milk thistle, thanks for reminding me of that.

Thanks,
Angela

 

[Thomas Alan]

I read LWB and TAASOLCL in the past couple of days. Ok, now I have a road map travel by. I am slowly reducing carbs and increasing animal fat. I am proceeding with caution watching body's responses to each step. At my age I'm not sure how much damage has been done that is not repairable.

I've found that, as suggested in LWB, that I need to increase my salt intake as I reduce carbs or I feel very heavy, brain fogged. Just an 1/8 teaspoon added to water a couple times a day seems enough.

I was concerned about loosing weight as I reduced carbs as I am already slender. I have lost a pound or two but my muscles have become firmer, tighter and stronger.

I asked the meat manager at the local food co-op to order broth bones and beef fat for me. Should have them soon. He is very knowledgeable about the meat products they sell from various local producers. How they are fed, how they are "finished" etc. He said that none of the suppliers they use use antibiotics.

Moving forward.

Mac

 

[ScarletBegonias]

For what it's worth, I purchased it in the powder form in an attempt to sidestep that issue and got the brand below. It only lists l-glutamine as the ingredient.

_http://www.bluebonnetnutrition.com/product/24/L-Glutamine_Powder

Thank you, truth seeker! I guess the powder form is the one I should get.

[quote author=Scarlet]
I just received my order of l-gutamine in the mail yesterday (Source Naturals 500mg capsules) and the ingredients list maltodextrin, but that wasn't in the description online when I ordered it. I plan to return them, but don't know what brand is good for l-glutamine. Does anybody know of one without maltodextrin?

Hi Scarlet,

I get mine from NutraBio.com in powder form, 100% pure pharmaceutical grade.
http://www.nutrabio.com/Products/glutamine.htm
[/quote]

Thank you, Incognito! I see they are on sale this month and think I will try this brand out! I appreciate both of you posting these links. They really help me out!

 

[Laura]

I read LWB and TAASOLCL in the past couple of days. Ok, now I have a road map travel by. I am slowly reducing carbs and increasing animal fat. I am proceeding with caution watching body's responses to each step. At my age I'm not sure how much damage has been done that is not repairable.

Remember to work on healing the gut first before you go gung ho on reducing carbs too far!

 

[Laura]

Check out this article about glutathione vis a vis "leaky gut" and auto-immune conditions.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/233779-Glutathione-recycling-for-autoimmune-disease

I think NAC is the one supplement I have taken most consistently for the past three years. In the beginning, I would take 3 or 4 of them per day. Now, it's more like one every couple of days.

 

[mcb]

Remember to work on healing the gut first before you go gung ho on reducing carbs too far!

Gut healing could well be a "lifelong process" for me (i.e. what's left of my life), after so many decades of damage, but things are turning around, I believe. I am going to calculate my new carb/protein/fat intake this weekend, just for reference, but I can tell that it is good from the way I feel. I am above 20 g/d carbs but below 72, and things are still moving, if a little sluggishly, aided by the vitamin C titrate. And I am losing weight again!

I like the perspective offered by Rethinking Thin that the much-publicized correlation between weight and disease may just be more bad science, but I have a bad lumbar disc that doesn't do well with extra weight as well as edema that I have only been able to manage by bringing my weight down. And losing weight isn't such a big deal when you don't have to go hungry all the time.

My current book is Deep Nutrition. I keep wanting to read some other kind of book, and there are several waiting (The Thirteenth Tribe is sitting here tempting me), but the "food" books just keep coming, and every one of them fills in important gaps. I guess this makes up for all those years of not being able to find much of anything that was truly helpful. Too much reading is a good problem to have. :)

 

[Ca.]

Branched Chain Amino Acid and Ketosis
http://www.livestrong.com/article/487378-branched-chain-amino-acid-and-ketosis/

Overview

A ketogenic diet, while allowing you to drop body fat, presents challenges, including recovery from exercise. Branched-chain amino acids can sometimes help with this, and may allow you to better tolerate a ketogenic diet. Like all supplements, branched-chain amino acids represent only a very small part of a sound dietary program. Consult a health care practitioner before dieting or using a dietary supplement.

Ketosis
Ketosis is the state where you burn ketones, or free-floating fatty acids, as your primary source of energy. Normally, you burn glycogen, or sugar, and you will always burn a small amount of sugar regardless of how long you spend in ketosis. To achieve ketosis, you must limit your carbohydrate intake by removing all non-fibrous carbohydrates from your diet. This process can be accelerated through exercise, which depletes your glycogen reserves.

Effectiveness

Ketosis allows you to effectively burn fat, but there is nothing unique about the diet. To reduce body fat, you still must expend more calories than you take in. This can be done effectively long-term, as the state of ketosis may be maintained indefinitely. According to a 12-month study published in March 2007 in the "Journal of the American Medical Association," premenopausal and obese women on a low-carbohydrate diet lost more weight than their counterparts on low-fat, high-carb diets. While questions remain about long-term effects and mechanisms, a low-carbohydrate, high-protein, high-fat diet did have promising results.

Branched-Chain Amino Acids
Branched-chain amino acids are the most prevalent amino acids in your muscle tissue. Leucine, isoleucine and valine, the branched-chain amino acids, comprise more than 30 percent of the amino acids in your skeletal muscle. These amino acids are present in all complete proteins, but are most common in meat and dairy products. There is no negative effect when using branched-chain amino acids when in ketosis. To push yourself out of ketosis, you would need to consume nearly 50 g of amino acids as supplements.

Use of Branched-Chain Amino Acids
Branched-chain amino acids promote recovery from exercise, as your skeletal muscle quickly utilizes them. In a study published in June 2010 in the "International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism," supplementation with branched-chain amino acids not only improved recovery, but decreased muscle soreness in participants. In a study published in February 2009 in the "Journal of Nutritional Science and Vitaminology," branched-chain amino acid supplementation increased short-term muscular endurance and recovery in participants. As such, supplementing with branched-chain amino acids can help improve your recovery while in a caloric deficit or ketogenic state.

About this Author
Gis Gibbs first began writing professionally in 1985 and has been published in "Metabolics" and the "Journal of Nutrition. Gibbs has a Ph.D. in nutrition from Ohio State University and a M.S. in physical therapy from New York University. She has worked at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs and currently develops comprehensive nutritional and rehabilitative programs for a neurological team.

References
" Ketogenic Diet, The: A Complete Guide for the Dieter & the Practitioner"; Lyle McDonald; 2000

"Journal of the American Medical Association"; Comparison of the Atkins, Zone, Ornish, and Learn Diets for Change in Weight and Related Risk Factors Among Overweight Premenopausal Women: the A to Z Weight Loss Study: a Randomized Trial; C.D. Gardner, et al.; March 2007


"Textbook of Biochemistry with Clinical Correlations"; Thomas M. Devlin; 2010

"International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism"; Branched-chain Amino Acid Supplementation Before Squat Exercise and Delayed-onset Muscle Soreness; Y. Shimomura, et al.; June 2010

"Journal of Nutritional Science and Vitaminology"; Branched-chain Amino Acid Supplementation Increases the Lactate Threshold During an Incremental Exercise Test in Trained Individuals; K. Matsumoto, et al.; February 2009

Ketogenic Amino Acids
http://www.livestrong.com/article/486163-ketogenic-amino-acids/

 

[Don Genaro]

Remember to work on healing the gut first before you go gung ho on reducing carbs too far!

My current book is Deep Nutrition. I keep wanting to read some other kind of book, and there are several waiting (The Thirteenth Tribe is sitting here tempting me), but the "food" books just keep coming, and every one of them fills in important gaps. I guess this makes up for all those years of not being able to find much of anything that was truly helpful. Too much reading is a good problem to have. :)

Same as that. I've finished PBPM- I couldn't wait for the hard copy so I downloaded the kindle version last week! I got Deep Nutrition the other day and I'm about a fifth of the way through it. Like you, I'm mad to read other books but the diet area is just so important. I also get the feeling that once I have a handle on the diet issue, my brain will be better able to process and retain information.
I had rarely ever gotten leg cramps before they were mentioned here recently. Since then, I've been woken up on a few occasions by them as well as feeling slight spasticity every now and then in my left calf. I've started taking potassium for that. I'm also drinking lots of broth and I love it. I make it with meaty beef bones, oxtails, lamb's heart and kombu seaweed. I'm currently looking for a big stockpot so that I don't have the cooker on for 48 hours every week.
After the recent discovery of the dangers of protein overdose I cut right back and started measuring everything. I don't measure everything- just having an idea of what the protein content is enables me to work with my intuition as to what feels right. Anyone who is feeling like the limited protein is "too little" would do well to try and wash down dinner with a good cup of fatty broth. It is so satisfying.
I would say I'm easily under 20 grams of carbs a day, often under 10. I'm in no hurry to up the dosage yet as I think I'm very carb sensitive or maybe just "extra carb sensitive until my gut heals". For example, the other day I had not even half a carrot in my stew and noticed sweet cravings afterwards. It may just be a carrot sensitivity as I consumed lots of carrots with my potatoes before and potatoes are definitely out for me right now- I found that they were really messing with my metabolism.
My breath is fresher, my bowels are pretty regular and stools the way they should be according to the scale in Fibre Menace- I very rarely get diarrhea now and my energy levels have improved a lot in the afternoons. Another tip for those who aren't satisfied with smaller meals is to eat plenty of pork sausage. I make my own from high fat belly pork and they have almost half the protein of the same amount of beef. All in all, I'm doing pretty well. I know I still have a long way to go. I chose to eat wheat for many years, knowing it didn't agree with me (but not knowing how serious an issue it was). In a way I think I had good luck and bad luck in a sense. Good luck in that I seem to have healthy genes (I never had many symptoms but I'm sure that if I tested for celiacs it would be a positive result); bad luck for the same reason- I never really had symptoms so I know I've done a lot of damage to my gut. The only real symptoms I had were allergies which disappeared once I cut out gluten. So for me, the measure of how healed I am seems to be answered by the question of how well my brain is working. It's already working a lot better and I'm looking forward to moving through the diet section and tackling the history, religion and psychology books with a brain better equipped to grasp it all!
Back to Deep Nutrition :)

 

[Harold]

Remember to work on healing the gut first before you go gung ho on reducing carbs too far!

Gut healing could well be a "lifelong process" for me (i.e. what's left of my life), after so many decades of damage, but things are turning around, I believe. I am going to calculate my new carb/protein/fat intake this weekend, just for reference, but I can tell that it is good from the way I feel. I am above 20 g/d carbs but below 72, and things are still moving, if a little sluggishly, aided by the vitamin C titrate. And I am losing weight again!

I like the perspective offered by Rethinking Thin that the much-publicized correlation between weight and disease may just be more bad science, but I have a bad lumbar disc that doesn't do well with extra weight as well as edema that I have only been able to manage by bringing my weight down. And losing weight isn't such a big deal when you don't have to go hungry all the time.

My current book is Deep Nutrition. I keep wanting to read some other kind of book, and there are several waiting (The Thirteenth Tribe is sitting here tempting me), but the "food" books just keep coming, and every one of them fills in important gaps. I guess this makes up for all those years of not being able to find much of anything that was truly helpful. Too much reading is a good problem to have. :)

Sounds like great news in general... inspiring.

I have wondered about gut healing. I have not started calculating my intake but I used to do it allot many years ago... I put myself into ketosis 16yrs ago as I was into the high protein dieting then. I have over the years ate closest to a Mediterranean diet. Cut out pop and juice many years ago.

I do not weigh myself. I had to drill 2 new holes in my tool belt as it had started to fall off, I am wearing shorts I have not fit into for years and I had to buy a new belt of a smaller size.... so I think I'm losing weight, it appears to be a couple of inches off my waist.

I was/am still surprised too at how little I need to eat this way and all the energy I get. I'm lucky with that I think.

I have stopped taking supplements in the last 5 weeks. I was taking around 3 to 6g of vit C, 4oooIU of vit D3 and K2. I may wait untill I go for my blood work and check up, it has been a year. I want to find out my blood type too.

 

[dugdeep]

Nora Gedgaudas' talk at the Ancestral Health Symposium is up online. It's called "Primal mind: nutrition & mental health—improving the way you feel & function & cultivating an ageless mind". I'm part way through it now and it's quite fascinating.

http://vimeo.com/27961539