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I recently thought that maybe the C's learn as much from the sessions as the rest of us. This lead me to the conclusion that the more sessions, the better. However, It seems to me the limiting factor is the amount of good, decent, no asked-before questions. And since I've read all the sessions (as far as I'm aware) who better to come up with some good, decent, not asked-before questions. :P

I haven't read everything and done the research that some of the people here have done (I haven't even read any Gurdjieff, but part of me has to be a rebel, so if someone tells me I should read it, I'm going to say "Why don't you explain your understanding of it to me instead ;)"), so if anyone has any thoughts, please feel free to discuss, after all, these questions may never get asked, as that would be up to Laura et al.

Also, I understand that the idea is to learn for ourselves, so these questions could even be thought of as just normal questions about the universe, so for that reason, please feel free to add to the list. :)

Questions

* How do they know that all is one and one is all? i.e. Do they know from experience or did they follow some kind of logic?

* Does contemplating the nature of the prime creator and how it relates to the self lead to the spirit?


* Are they aware of such a thing as an assemblage point?

* What did they mean by "See" and "seer?" Is it like what's in Castaneda's books? Or is it something else?

Just for reference, here's where the C's used those words. From Session 13 July 2002 (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=21637.msg227019#msg227019):

Q: Do the "centers" as described by Mouravieff relate at all to the idea of "chakras?"

A: Quite closely. In an individual of the organic variety, the so-called higher chakras are "produced in effect" by stealing that energy from souled beings. This is what gives them the ability to emulate souled beings. The souled being is, in effect, perceiving a mirror of their own soul when they ascribe "soul qualities" to such beings.

Q: Is this a correspondence that starts at the basal chakra which relates to the sexual center as described by Mouravieff?

A: No. The "sexual center" corresponds to the solar plexus.

Lower moving center - basal chakra

Lower emotional - sexual chakra

Lower intellectual - throat chakra

Higher emotional - heart chakra

Higher intellectual - crown chakra

Q: (L) What about the so-called seventh, or "third eye" chakra?

A: Seer. The union of the heart and intellectual higher centers.

From Session 20 August 2011 (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24722.msg285390.html#msg285390):

Q: (Burma) I think that they're saying that schizophrenia could essentially be a way to be open to seeing other aspects of reality but diet can make it so it basically just makes you crazy without actually seeing anything.

A: Primitive societies that eat according to the normal diet for human beings do not have "schizophrenics", but they do have shamans who can "see".

* Is the human aura related to electric charge in some way?

- If so
* Can charged objects aid in healing?

- If so
* Is the healing electric charge positive, negative, or either?
* Is this how Reiki works?

- If no
* How does Reiki work in terms of particle physics?

* Is being in a state where you don't have to eat (see Gerald Pollack presentation in this thread (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31363.0.html) he talks about people who don't eat food) a desirable state?

- If so
* Is it related to EZ water?
* Is it better to be in this state for the transition to 4D?

- If so
* Is it necessary to move to 4D bodily?

* How can we go about achieving the no food state?
* Will it just happen naturally with time?

* Is there a "natural" way/method for dissolving blood clots that they are aware of?


* What am I missing with my CC interpretations?

* How does the astronomical interpretation fit in?


* Is my super-secret theory of physics accurate?

- If not
* Where did I go wrong? :P

Here are a bunch of questions about windows from this thread (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31376.0.html)

* Are windows what Seth (by Jane Roberts) called co-ordinate points?

* Do windows exist at points where gravity cancels?

* Did the Philadelphia experiment and project Montauk involve windows?

* Is Phi related to the Earth's grid somehow?

- If so
* How?

* Will the Wave interact with windows and/or the grid somehow?

- If so
* How? :)

* Are sunspots related to windows?

- If so
* Do UFO's use sunspots?

* Will the Earth's grid be different in 4D?

And one last random crack-pot question...

* If wishful thinking becomes reality in 4D, then would it be possible to travel to other planets using only a telescope?
 
Archaea said:
Hello,

I recently thought that maybe the C's learn as much from the sessions as the rest of us. This lead me to the conclusion that the more sessions, the better. However, It seems to me the limiting factor is the amount of good, decent, no asked-before questions. And since I've read all the sessions (as far as I'm aware) who better to come up with some good, decent, not asked-before questions. :P

I haven't read everything and done the research that some of the people here have done (I haven't even read any Gurdjieff, but part of me has to be a rebel, so if someone tells me I should read it, I'm going to say "Why don't you explain your understanding of it to me instead ;)"), so if anyone has any thoughts, please feel free to discuss, after all, these questions may never get asked, as that would be up to Laura et al.

Also, I understand that the idea is to learn for ourselves, so these questions could even be thought of as just normal questions about the universe, so for that reason, please feel free to add to the list. :)
I've had the same idea pop into my head a while ago. What could they get from the sessions? They learn how to teach
or something along those lines, and since they are STO what better way to spend their "time" than sharing and assisting.

Now the second statement (the more sessions the better), I'm not so sure that's true, if they had the same amount
of sessions as they did when the experiment began, that would imply that they haven't learnt much and are perhaps relying to much
on simply being given information instead of doing the work themselves.

As for your questions, I find them confusing to say the least.
 
Hello Archaea,

I have read discussions of many of your questions. The information is here... Somewhere... Speaking for myself here, I do not have the time to do this amount of research for you. Methinks most, if not all of us have questions. I gotta say though... With regards to your question about if your super secret theory of physics is accurate. I sure don't know and just me here, but "I" would never expect "them", or whomever to read my mind. I may be wrong, this is what I interpreted as your question. The more read, I am sure you will also see much about free lunches.
 
Archaea said:

Hi.

Archaea said:
I recently thought that maybe the C's learn as much from the sessions as the rest of us.

That's a pretty broad statement. You do learn something no matter what you do. I was just searching on google and found out that Katy Perry's Roar single is outselling Lady Gaga's Applause single. Which is just horrible IMHO. I didn't know that before, so obviously I've learned something. I wouldn't say it's worth knowing.

I am sure the C's could learn a lot from any one of us, but what percentage of that do you think they would consider worth knowing?

Archaea said:
This lead me to the conclusion that the more sessions, the better.

I've always though you were a very giving person..

Archaea said:
However, It seems to me the limiting factor is the amount of good, decent, no asked-before questions.

I don't think you even realize how insulting that comes across. You probably didn't mean it that way...but just so you know, sick burn dawg, sick burn.

Archaea said:
And since I've read all the sessions (as far as I'm aware) who better to come up with some good, decent, not asked-before questions. :P

I haven't.

Archaea said:
I haven't read everything and done the research that some of the people here have done (I haven't even read any Gurdjieff, but part of me has to be a rebel, so if someone tells me I should read it, I'm going to say "Why don't you explain your understanding of it to me instead ;)"),

Wow, are you sure you know where you are? Have you really met with much success on here with that attitude. Just saying...

Archaea said:
so if anyone has any thoughts, please feel free to discuss, after all, these questions may never get asked, as that would be up to Laura et al.

Not sure how genuine that offer could be considering the first part of the sentence...

Archaea said:
Also, I understand that the idea is to learn for ourselves, so these questions could even be thought of as just normal questions about the universe, so for that reason, please feel free to add to the list. :)

Can we only add?

Archaea said:
Questions

* How do they know that all is one and one is all? i.e. Do they know from experience or did they follow some kind of logic?

* Does contemplating the nature of the prime creator and how it relates to the self lead to the spirit?


* Are they aware of such a thing as an assemblage point?

* What did they mean by "See" and "seer?" Is it like what's in Castaneda's books? Or is it something else?

Just for reference, here's where the C's used those words. From Session 13 July 2002 (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=21637.msg227019#msg227019):

Q: Do the "centers" as described by Mouravieff relate at all to the idea of "chakras?"

A: Quite closely. In an individual of the organic variety, the so-called higher chakras are "produced in effect" by stealing that energy from souled beings. This is what gives them the ability to emulate souled beings. The souled being is, in effect, perceiving a mirror of their own soul when they ascribe "soul qualities" to such beings.

Q: Is this a correspondence that starts at the basal chakra which relates to the sexual center as described by Mouravieff?

A: No. The "sexual center" corresponds to the solar plexus.

Lower moving center - basal chakra

Lower emotional - sexual chakra

Lower intellectual - throat chakra

Higher emotional - heart chakra

Higher intellectual - crown chakra

Q: (L) What about the so-called seventh, or "third eye" chakra?

A: Seer. The union of the heart and intellectual higher centers.

From Session 20 August 2011 (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24722.msg285390.html#msg285390):

Q: (Burma) I think that they're saying that schizophrenia could essentially be a way to be open to seeing other aspects of reality but diet can make it so it basically just makes you crazy without actually seeing anything.

A: Primitive societies that eat according to the normal diet for human beings do not have "schizophrenics", but they do have shamans who can "see".

* Is the human aura related to electric charge in some way?

- If so
* Can charged objects aid in healing?

- If so
* Is the healing electric charge positive, negative, or either?
* Is this how Reiki works?

- If no
* How does Reiki work in terms of particle physics?

I almost cracked with the last one.

Archaea said:
* Is being in a state where you don't have to eat (see Gerald Pollack presentation in this thread (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31363.0.html) he talks about people who don't eat food) a desirable state?

Wow...you've read the sessions? All of them? Words fail me at this point.

Archaea said:
- If so
* Is it related to EZ water?
* Is it better to be in this state for the transition to 4D?

- If so
* Is it necessary to move to 4D bodily?

* How can we go about achieving the no food state?
* Will it just happen naturally with time?

Wow...It doesn't stop. You are really obsessed with this idea of no food? Why?

Archaea said:
* Is there a "natural" way/method for dissolving blood clots that they are aware of?


* What am I missing with my CC interpretations?

* How does the astronomical interpretation fit in?


* Is my super-secret theory of physics accurate?

- If not
* Where did I go wrong? :P

Here are a bunch of questions about windows from this thread (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31376.0.html)

* Are windows what Seth (by Jane Roberts) called co-ordinate points?

* Do windows exist at points where gravity cancels?

* Did the Philadelphia experiment and project Montauk involve windows?

* Is Phi related to the Earth's grid somehow?

- If so
* How?

* Will the Wave interact with windows and/or the grid somehow?

- If so
* How? :)

* Are sunspots related to windows?

- If so
* Do UFO's use sunspots?

* Will the Earth's grid be different in 4D?

And one last random crack-pot question...

* If wishful thinking becomes reality in 4D, then would it be possible to travel to other planets using only a telescope?

I am really glad you are super excited about the C's. Awesome. But every single one of your questions has either been answered directly, or indirectly in the material, and can be found there. No, I will not tell you where. Read it all. If you still haven't found it, the answers might not be there(I know. The sentence is that way on purpose). What I mean to say is if you are digging for rusty mufflers in a pile of diamonds, you'll be pretty disappointed that you don't find a muffler.

I think Aesop said it best:

A rooster was once strutting up and down the farmyard among the hens when suddenly he espied something shinning amid the straw. "Ho! ho!" quoth he, "that's for me," and soon rooted it out from beneath the straw. What did it turn out to be but a Pearl that by some chance had been lost in the yard? "You may be a treasure," quoth Master Rooster, "to men that prize you, but for me I would rather have a single barley-corn than a peck of pearls."


Well, good luck! And all the best in your quest.
 
Just wondering, Archaea, have you read the Wave series yet? If not, you can read it for free here. There are lots of answers there, but you have to read it get them. As the Cs have said, giving answers out like candy doesn't help you to learn.

And, as Atreides has said, a lot of your questions have been answered in the sessions. The Wave is much better, though, imo.
 
Hi Archaea

Your post shouts falsity to me. That doesn't mean it is false of course. But I'm left with a sense of negativity after reading it.

The emoticons are markedly abundant in your post. It is littered with them. I would be genuinely interested in your reasons, or motivation, for using so many. Emoticons have their use in reinforcing a text message, rather than a vocal one, or face to face interaction. But an overload of them suggests, at least to me, a sense of 'thou doth protest too much" or something similar.

If the Cs are Laura, or others, in the 'future,' what could they learn from Laura, or others, here in the 'past,' that they don't already know, and that is of any worth?

Bearing in mind that they are of a higher density would we really have knowledge that they don't have?

The Cs clearly communicated that the way to receive answers is to ask, and ask a direct question. Would they not themselves, if needing an answer to a question, ask that question?
 
Nienna said:
And, as Atreides has said, a lot of your questions have been answered in the sessions. The Wave is much better, though, imo.

My bad for not being clear, I meant the whole material, not just sessions, but the Forum, Books, Sites, Articles and so on and so forth. But yeah, the wave would be a super good start.
 
Archaea said:
Also, I understand that the idea is to learn for ourselves,

If that's what you understand, then you would try to find the answers to your questions yourself, right?
 
Wowser. I had some misgivings about my get snotty program post. But myyy word. Seems like something going down here I'm oblivious of. Y'all talking to Archaea as if y'all are old friends. Or an arch Nemesis...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
 
Hmmm....

I don't think you even realize how insulting that comes across. You probably didn't mean it that way...but just so you know, sick burn dawg, sick burn.

It certainly wasn't my intention to be offensive to anybody in anyway, but I can see how what I said regarding the limiting factor being good, decent, not asked-before questions could've come across as me saying that the team here doesn't have any, so hmm... no hard feelings?

My introduction may have betrayed my self-importance somewhat, I was trying to be positive... I like to think of myself as a nice guy, but then I talk to people and the things I say sometimes leave me with the feeling that maybe I'm just a cynical, unsociable dim-wit. But then I like to take a leaf from Don Juan and make an effort to laugh at myself. :P

The reason I decided to make this post comes down to what I think of as the mystery of existence (i.e. Why is there something instead of nothing?) and how the C's might relate to it, do they know the answer, or is it still ultimately a mystery to them?

I figured since the C's are Laura et al in the future, then the interaction between the past and future selves, might be helping the C's to understand themselves better, and thus help them to pin down the mysteries of reality. So I think maybe if the sessions help the C's learn in the same way they help us learn then it can't hurt to have more, and if there are more sessions then there needs to be more questions, and even if there aren't more sessions, it can't hurt to at least ask some questions, can it?

As for my questions, they probably aren't good questions (especially if they're confusing and others can't understand them), and if I'm so smart, I could probably just work the answers out for myself. All except for the blood clots question, I'd like to know the answer to that one, does anybody have any ideas about that? Also I really liked the 4D telescope question, I thought that one was great. :halo:

Just wondering, Archaea, have you read the Wave series yet? If not, you can read it for free here. There are lots of answers there, but you have to read it get them. As the Cs have said, giving answers out like candy doesn't help you to learn.

And, as Atreides has said, a lot of your questions have been answered in the sessions. The Wave is much better, though, imo.

I've read some of the wave, I read the Wave and the adventures series over at the old http://www.cassiopaea.com/ site, but I don't think I'll read the new bits. I feel the Wave is just a deprogramming tool that gets the "engine" started, so I think I won't read the rest just yet. I'd rather read High Strangeness, but I don't trust the internet with my credit card details...

Wow...It doesn't stop. You are really obsessed with this idea of no food? Why?

I am pretty obsessed with the idea of not having to eat, I don't know how you picked up on that. It would be so convenient, I could just get a tent, pick a direction, and go for a walk. I wouldn't have to work, pay rent or anything, I could just follow the wind.

Wowser. I had some misgivings about my get snotty program post. But myyy word. Seems like something going down here I'm oblivious of. Y'all talking to Archaea as if y'all are old friends. Or an arch Nemesis...
:shock: :shock: :shock:

I don't think there is anything going down here that you're oblivious to, unless I'm oblivious to it also...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
:) :) :)

P.S. I accidently posted half way through writing this post and it wouldn't let me modify to correct it. This is the real one, can a mod please delete the unfinished one?
 
Archaea said:
Hmmm....

I don't think you even realize how insulting that comes across. You probably didn't mean it that way...but just so you know, sick burn dawg, sick burn.

It certainly wasn't my intention to be offensive to anybody in anyway, but I can see how what I said regarding the limiting factor being good, decent, not asked-before questions could've come across as me saying that the team here doesn't have any, so hmm... no hard feelings?

My introduction may have betrayed my self-importance somewhat, I was trying to be positive... I like to think of myself as a nice guy, but then I talk to people and the things I say sometimes leave me with the feeling that maybe I'm just a cynical, unsociable dim-wit. But then I like to take a leaf from Don Juan and make an effort to laugh at myself. :P

The reason I decided to make this post comes down to what I think of as the mystery of existence (i.e. Why is there something instead of nothing?) and how the C's might relate to it, do they know the answer, or is it still ultimately a mystery to them?

I figured since the C's are Laura et al in the future, then the interaction between the past and future selves, might be helping the C's to understand themselves better, and thus help them to pin down the mysteries of reality. So I think maybe if the sessions help the C's learn in the same way they help us learn then it can't hurt to have more, and if there are more sessions then there needs to be more questions, and even if there aren't more sessions, it can't hurt to at least ask some questions, can it?

As for my questions, they probably aren't good questions (especially if they're confusing and others can't understand them), and if I'm so smart, I could probably just work the answers out for myself. All except for the blood clots question, I'd like to know the answer to that one, does anybody have any ideas about that? Also I really liked the 4D telescope question, I thought that one was great. :halo:

Just wondering, Archaea, have you read the Wave series yet? If not, you can read it for free here. There are lots of answers there, but you have to read it get them. As the Cs have said, giving answers out like candy doesn't help you to learn.

And, as Atreides has said, a lot of your questions have been answered in the sessions. The Wave is much better, though, imo.

I've read some of the wave, I read the Wave and the adventures series over at the old http://www.cassiopaea.com/ site, but I don't think I'll read the new bits. I feel the Wave is just a deprogramming tool that gets the "engine" started, so I think I won't read the rest just yet. I'd rather read High Strangeness, but I don't trust the internet with my credit card details...

Wow...It doesn't stop. You are really obsessed with this idea of no food? Why?

I am pretty obsessed with the idea of not having to eat, I don't know how you picked up on that. It would be so convenient, I could just get a tent, pick a direction, and go for a walk. I wouldn't have to work, pay rent or anything, I could just follow the wind.

Wowser. I had some misgivings about my get snotty program post. But myyy word. Seems like something going down here I'm oblivious of. Y'all talking to Archaea as if y'all are old friends. Or an arch Nemesis...
:shock: :shock: :shock:

I don't think there is anything going down here that you're oblivious to, unless I'm oblivious to it also...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
:) :) :)

P.S. I accidently posted half way through writing this post and it wouldn't let me modify to correct it. This is the real one, can a mod please delete the unfinished one?

I recently came across an old email I wrote in response to a job from the same company I failed a job interview with earlier. I really wanted that previous job and was cut for not even hearing back from them, so I "casually" emailed them responding to the new position I found out about. I didn't want to show I cared but I wanted too at the same time show how smart I was. The truth is I felt out of depth, I felt extra intimidated for not being selected, and I put those working there on a pedestal. It was a "hip" digital ad agency with all "cool" types, so my email for that new job was trying to be "cool". What I read yesterday was very arrogant, aloof and self-important. It's funny because at the time I would never have seen it, I even reread my message to them a number of times before sending I recall. I'm saying all that because in a similar way I don't believe you're really seeing how arrogant, aloof and self-important your postings are here on this thread. Perhaps like me there could be some deeper feelings of rejection coupled with elevating the "important" members here. Maybe its something like that, if not though its worth reflecting on how you're coming across and thinking about why that might be.
 
Archaea said:
I've read some of the wave, I read the Wave and the adventures series over at the old http://www.cassiopaea.com/ site, but I don't think I'll read the new bits. I feel the Wave is just a deprogramming tool that gets the "engine" started, so I think I won't read the rest just yet. I'd rather read High Strangeness, but I don't trust the internet with my credit card details...

I absolutely disagree here and would really recommend you read ALL of it, even if it means you read parts again. As others previously remarked: The answers are indeed there.

Do you know casssessions? It has a fine search function...

M.T.
 
Minas Tirith said:
Archaea said:
I've read some of the wave, I read the Wave and the adventures series over at the old http://www.cassiopaea.com/ site, but I don't think I'll read the new bits. I feel the Wave is just a deprogramming tool that gets the "engine" started, so I think I won't read the rest just yet. I'd rather read High Strangeness, but I don't trust the internet with my credit card details...

I absolutely disagree here and would really recommend you read ALL of it, even if it means you read parts again. As others previously remarked: The answers are indeed there.

Do you know casssessions? It has a fine search function...

M.T.

Archaea, if you can't take the time to read what is recommended to you, or you think it is "a deprogramming tool", then, why ask these questions that you most likely wouldn't like the answers to anyway, other than that way you don't have to actually work to learn the answers? What, exactly, are you fishing for?

Since this forum is based on the Cs, Gurdjieff and Mouravieff, along with other 4th Way teachings, and you don't seem to be collinear with most of these things, why are you even here?
 
* How do they know that all is one and one is all? i.e. Do they know from experience or did they follow some kind of logic?
The idea of them arriving at that conclusion by some brand of logic is interesting, but I don't think this question matters much. They are 6th density after all.

* Does contemplating the nature of the prime creator and how it relates to the self lead to the spirit?
Contemplating this could have been said to be a "spiritual" activity for me
You literally are the "figments" of someone's imagination, and nothing more!
long before I came across the term "Prime Creator."

* Are they aware of such a thing as an assemblage point?
Glossary entry here

* What did they mean by "See" and "seer?" Is it like what's in Castaneda's books? Or is it something else?
"The union of the heart and intellectual higher centers" : higher abilities, graduation to 4th density...
Ouspensky said:
Spirituality is not something opposed to “intellectuality” or “emotionality.” It is only their higher flight. Reason has no bounds.

… In a man the growth of reason consists in the growth of the intellect and in the accompanying growth of higher emotions: aesthetic, religious, moral – which, as they grow, become more and more intellectualized; moreover, simultaneously with this the intellect becomes impregnated with emotionality and ceases to be “cold.” Thus, “spirituality” is the merging together of the intellect and the higher emotions; the emotions are spiritualized from the intellect.

* Is the human aura related to electric charge in some way?
I think everything has to be intertwined in a human: genetic, aural, karmic, electric, soul...

* Is being in a state where you don't have to eat (see Gerald Pollack presentation in this thread (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31363.0.html) he talks about people who don't eat food) a desirable state?
Whatever anyone says, I think it's been established that we need to eat to live. Unless our cosmic environment changes and reality drastically rearranges itself, I say carry on eating food.

* Is there a "natural" way/method for dissolving blood clots that they are aware of?
Chelation? I don't know, I'll have to google this.

* What am I missing with my CC interpretations?
Be patient, keep trying.
Bringers of the Dawn said:
... They come into your reality to show you that the reasoning mind cannot control all of the data, much as it would like to. ....

... Basically, they exist to force reality to move - to get you feeling rather than thinking. Most who explore these circles think their way through the circles rather than feel their way through them. ...

* How does the astronomical interpretation fit in?
I guess it fits only where it fits! Not all crop circle patterns have to do with astronomy.

* Is my super-secret theory of physics accurate?
That is between you and the C's.

* Are windows what Seth (by Jane Roberts) called co-ordinate points?
I wonder if it's easier to put aside the term "dimension" and approach this using the concepts of "realities" and "densities".
Q: (L) Physicists talk about multi-dimensional universes. ... How many dimensions does the true universe have?

A: Not correct concept. Should be: How many universes does the “true” dimension have?

Q: (L) All right, then. I think that from a previous session we were told that the number of universes was not countable. Is that correct?

A: Infinite, maybe, but more to the point: variable and selective.

Q: (L) Explain variable and selective, please?

A: For those who know how, universes can be created at will in order to transmodify reality merge.

Q: (L) What is a reality merge?

A: What does it sound like?

* Do windows exist at points where gravity cancels?
Unstable gravity waves.

* Did the Philadelphia experiment and project Montauk involve windows?
I'm confident this is a yes. How could it not be?

* Will the Wave interact with windows and/or the grid somehow?
The Wave is the realm border i.e. it is a "window," isn't it? The window of all windows, lord of them all.

* Are sunspots related to windows?
[quote author=www.thunderbolts.info]Sunspots are the direct evidence that electric discharges punch holes in the photosphere to deliver current directly to lower depths, exposing a view of the cooler interior.[/quote]

* Will the Earth's grid be different in 4D?
Does Jupiter have a grid? I wonder.

* If wishful thinking becomes reality in 4D, then would it be possible to travel to other planets using only a telescope?
Could be. Or, "traveling" would become an obsolete term. You could be anywhere and everywhere. The planet you see through the telescope might not be the same planet when you get there.
 
Muxel said:
* What did they mean by "See" and "seer?" Is it like what's in Castaneda's books? Or is it something else?
"The union of the heart and intellectual higher centers" : higher abilities, graduation to 4th density...


Ouspensky said:
Spirituality is not something opposed to “intellectuality” or “emotionality.” It is only their higher flight. Reason has no bounds.
… In a man the growth of reason consists in the growth of the intellect and in the accompanying growth of higher emotions: aesthetic, religious, moral – which, as they grow, become more and more intellectualized; moreover, simultaneously with this the intellect becomes impregnated with emotionality and ceases to be “cold.” Thus, “spirituality” is the merging together of the intellect and the higher emotions; the emotions are spiritualized from the intellect.

Muxel, could you share with me what book that quote is in? I have "In Search Of The Miraculous" by Ouspensky, but I can't find it there.
Thank you
 

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