Low dose Lithium for better mental health

Michael Nehls, in his book, "The Indoctrinated Brain" takes about the Corona virus AND especially the jab as having damaging effects on the hippocampus, in conjunction with fear in terms of reprogramming our brains, our historical memory. Apparently Lithium helps grow and regenerate our hippocampus, so Lithium would be a protective agent against this attack.
In this video, the author spends the last half of the interview talking about all the benefits of lithium. Apparently, it has a significant impact on reducing neuro-inflammation in the brain.

 
I used this page to find methylation issues, it's quite good and private.

Hmm, I wonder whether that it more accurate than the Promethease report, or viceversa. On this one, I seem to have no MAOA mutations, but 3 COMT mutations (COMT V158M, COMT H62H, COMT P199P) plus VDR Bsm, MTHFR C677T and BHMT-02, while on Promethease, it shows no COMT mutations, but one "Reduced MAOA activity" gene (rs6323 (TT)).

I'm pretty confused now, and only know that it looks like a very messy genetic soup. :lol: Has anyone else run their data through both databases?
 
I'm pretty confused now, and only know that it looks like a very messy genetic soup. :lol: Has anyone else run their data through both databases?

I did. I also got totally different results. Things that appear on Promethease don't appear on that site and what appeared on that site isn't there at all in Promethease.

I would think that Promethease has better track record regarding reliability. At least that's what I read in different kind soft forums. I read that generally speaking Promethease is the best for health things and is actually used in the medical field but the problem is that because it is mostly raw data (not interpreted) it's very hard to understand what the report shows unless you spend some time reading the papers and all that.

Ultimately, I think when interpreting or deciding about what these sites say, it must be more based on other things that you know: for example, your particular medical history, what you think is more likely according to your knowledge and observation, etc.
 
That makes total sense, thanks @Yas. At least from the symptoms listed in "Dirty Genes", Promethease matches way better for me. But of course, we know that the mutated genes are still related to others, so some symptoms may overlap, and such. Not to mention that things change, and that genes don´t tell the whole story, since they can be active or not, change their activity throughout life, etc. We just have to learn, experiment and observe.
 
Just a heads up: If you also take sodium bicarbonate pay attention, because it may interact with lithium, according to this article.
Some products that may interact with baking soda include aspirin and other salicylates, barbiturates, calcium supplements, corticosteroids, medications with a special coating to protect the stomach, lithium, quinidine, and diuretics.
I took lithium orotate for a few weeks, then stopped as the capsules also contain silica and magnesium stearate and instead I took the homeopathic remedy Lithium Carbonicum and I have to say that it seems to help really well.

I really have to keep my wits about me as the people in my surroundings are losing it and lithium seems to help me take it on the chin without becoming angry or disgruntled. At the same time I am using my creativity to put my focus on constructive activities, but I think my taking lithium has helped considerably.
 
I started taking it a couple weeks ago coincidentally when I was frustrated and noticed that it helps with anger. It seems to have worked, if only as placebo. Not to say that I don't get angry anymore. So hard to say if there is a long term benefit, but I see no reason to stop taking it.

Just a heads up: If you also take sodium bicarbonate pay attention, because it may interact with lithium, according to this article.
It seems it just reduces the effectivness of the lithium. Sometimes I take baking soda a few hours after breakfast for heartburn.
 
I started taking it a couple weeks ago coincidentally when I was frustrated and noticed that it helps with anger. It seems to have worked, if only as placebo. Not to say that I don't get angry anymore. So hard to say if there is a long term benefit, but I see no reason to stop taking it.

Great! See how you feel. For me, it seems to have worked to just do a "cure" of 2 months. Now I hardly take it, and my anxiety levels are still lower than they used to. I plan on doing another cure once in a while.
 
I tried the orotate, then switched to a cheap version over the counter, and I think that both have helped a lot. But also, the advice on the book "dirty Genes" that you recommended. Good stuff so far!

Just in case it helps someone, the cheaper version I mentioned above is called lithium gluconate, and it comes in blisters. After having tried it several more times, I am pretty sure that the effects are more noticeable than with the ororate. I couldn't find much in English about it, other than its use for serious psychological issues. But in France it's sold over the counter. I remember that when I was in my 20s and was going through a period of anxiety, my naturopath at the time recommended it because it was natural and very mild, just to take the edge off.

Short description:

This drug is used as a terrain modifier, particularly for minor psychic or psychosomatic symptoms in children over 6 and adults (mild sleep disorders, irritability).

Lithium's beneficial properties in mood and behavior disorders were discovered in 1949. It is thought to be involved in nerve cell function and in the regulation of molecules involved in the transmission of information in the brain. Its involvement in membrane exchanges explains its role as a “nervous system tranquilizer”.

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(It contains a little bit of glucose, but I take it so rarely that I don't mind.)

It's 8,14mg of lithium gluconate (corresponding to 0.2796mg of lithium)

I guess it may depend on how each person absorbs each supplement, but I prefer this one so far.
 
Lithium shows promise as a potential therapy for autism spectrum disorder

A groundbreaking discovery has highlighted lithium - a drug long used to treat bipolar disorder and depression - as a potential therapy for autism spectrum disorder (ASD). This research, conducted by a team at the Center for Synaptic Brain Dysfunctions within the Institute for Basic Science (IBS) led by Director KIM Eunjoon, reveals that lithium can restore brain function and alleviate behavioral symptoms in animal models of ASD caused by mutations in the Dyrk1a gene.

ASD is a neurodevelopmental disorder affecting 2.8% of the global population, characterized by social deficits, repetitive behaviors, intellectual challenges, and anxiety. Because ASD imposes a heavy burden not only on the patients themselves but on their families and society as a whole, new therapeutic methods must be developed to treat the core symptoms of ASD. Despite its prevalence, there are no definitive treatments or preventive measures.

Among the many genetic risk factors for ASD, Dyrk1a mutations stand out as significant, leading to conditions such as Dyrk1a syndrome. Patients carrying Dyrk1a loss-of-function mutation have presented with ASD, microcephaly, language problems, social disability, and anxiety. The mouse model carrying Dyrk1a I48K truncation mutation (a human patient mutation), also mimics these phenotypes closely.

One of the underlying mechanisms of ASD symptoms by Dyrk1a mutation discovered within this study is impaired phosphorylation levels of mTOR (mammalian target of rapamycin). To find the specific substrate of Dyrk1a, the researchers needed to generate mice lacking the entirety of Dyrk1a expression (homozygote), a condition that has been known to be embryonically lethal. However, by switching the mouse genetic background, it was possible to generate live animals with this mutation. Even so, the survival rate was abysmal, with less than 5% of the mutant pups surviving. After overcoming this hardest part, the authors found that the phosphorylation levels of various elements of the mTOR pathway, and mTOR itself were altered by Dyrk1a expression levels.

Accordingly, they have chosen lithium to address this deficit, and as a tentative cure drug in Dyrk1a mutant mice. When lithium was administered to the mutant mice during their juvenile period, the results were remarkable. Lithium normalized brain size, restored the structure and function of excitatory neurons, and significantly improved behaviors related to anxiety and social interaction. Even more promising, the effects of this short-term treatment lasted into adulthood, suggesting that lithium may have long-term benefits by enabling structural and functional recovery in the brain.

Through advanced mass spectrometry analysis, proteins and their phosphorylation levels rescued by lithium in Dyrk1a mutation mice were extensively screened. The team discovered that lithium's therapeutic effects are partly mediated through its action on Kalirin-7, a molecule essential for synaptic structure and function. By targeting this molecule, lithium helped to restore balance in the brain's signaling networks, addressing one of the core mechanisms of ASD.

This is an exciting breakthrough. Dyrk1a mutations disrupt neural connectivity, much like a traffic jam or roadblocks in a city. Lithium helps to clear the congestion, restoring smooth communication between neurons."

Director KIM Eunjoon emphasized the potential impact of these findings, stating, "Our research shows that lithium, a widely used drug for bipolar disorder, could also serve as a treatment for ASD. The fact that its effects persist long after treatment ends underscores the importance of early intervention during critical developmental windows."

This study, published in the prestigious journal Molecular Psychiatry on December 5, not only paves the way for new therapeutic approaches for ASD but also underscores the critical importance of early diagnosis and intervention. It offers a glimmer of hope to families and individuals affected by ASD, suggesting that targeted treatments may one day reduce the burden of this complex disorder.

 
I found two bottled waters in my country that have a little bit of lithium in them. I don't know in which form, but I suspect that it's in carbonate form, because the water is rich in carbonates. Since carbonate form is not very bioavailable, do you think that it would be a good idea to mix such water with lemon or citric acid to convert carbonate form into citrate form?
 
I found two bottled waters in my country that have a little bit of lithium in them. I don't know in which form, but I suspect that it's in carbonate form, because the water is rich in carbonates. Since carbonate form is not very bioavailable, do you think that it would be a good idea to mix such water with lemon or citric acid to convert carbonate form into citrate form?
It is possible, but you have to know that there is more malic acid in lemons then citric acid. I don't konw if you will get the lithium salt of the malic acid too, or if that is more likely to get the malate out of it.
Maybe it is the best, if you go and buy citric acid in order to get only lithium citrate... (You know, the one you use for baking)
 
It is possible, but you have to know that there is more malic acid in lemons then citric acid. I don't konw if you will get the lithium salt of the malic acid too, or if that is more likely to get the malate out of it.

I don't know where did you get that information? Here is what scientists say:

Lemon, with 0.08% oxalic acid, 0.07% tartaric acid, 0.98% malic acid, 1.32% lactic acid, 85.26% citric acid, and 0.91% ascorbic acid, has the highest amount of malic acid and citric acid among the mentioned fruits (Khosravi and Rastakhiz 2015).

Maybe it is the best, if you go and buy citric acid in order to get only lithium citrate... (You know, the one you use for baking)

Yes, if I use a lemon, I will probably get all kinds of salts of lithium. But that is not necessarily a bad thing. Apart from citrate, ascorbate version is also popular.

Organic lithium salts are a promising area for searching for effective and safe neuroprotective drugs. By using chronic bilateral common carotid artery occlusion models, the authors have previously found that lithium gluconate and lithium citrate are effective agents to prevent a neurological deficit in brain ischemic or neurodegenerative damages. The use of organic lithium salts in brain ischemia leads to their targeted accumulation in the frontal lobes of the brain and in the cerebrospinal fluid, normalizing trace elemental homeostasis in the brain Objective: to compare the neuroprotective effects of different lithium salts (chloride, carbonate, ascorbate, and citrate).

Material and methods. A neurocytological study was performed using a glutamate-induced stress model in cultured granular neurons (CGNs).

The state of CGNs was monitored daily and at each experimental stage, by viewing in an inverted phase contrast microscope. The final concentrations of the test substances in the culture medium were 0.1, 0.2, and 0.5, and 1 mM. The survival of CGNs was quantified by directly counting the neurons with intact morphology in 5 fields of vision. Five experiments were carried out for each substance. The number of neurons with intact morphology in the control cultures was taken as 100% survival.

Results. Lithium chloride and lithium carbonate in the studied range of concentrations did not show significant neuroprotective properties.

Lithium ascorbate and lithium citrate, on the contrary, significantly increased the survival of neurons
in mild, moderate and severe glutamateinduced stress. Lithium citrate at a concentration of 0.2 mM increased the survival rate of CGNs by an average of 30% (p < 0.003). The active neuroprotective principles of lithium citrate were shown to be both lithium ion and citrate anion. These positive qualities of the test organic lithium salts are explained primarily by the fact that ascorbate and citrate anions contribute to the enhanced transport of lithium ions into the cells through appropriate ion channels for the transport of organic acids (SLC13A5, etc.).

Conclusion. Lithium ascorbate and lithium citrate were confirmed to have an immediate neuroprotective effect on cerebellar CGNs. Treatment of CGNs with lithium citrate showed a 30% increase in cell survival during glutamate-induced stress.


This Russian group published several studies with lithium ascorbate. They also have a product sold on Amazon.

Here are two of their patents:



Here is a Chinese patent:


Boron can also be used as ascorbate:

US2635102A - Boron derivatives of ascorbic acid - Google Patents

Here is one famous American water that has lithium, as I suspected, in a bicarbonate form:

 
Hmm, I lerned that in school, that there is actual more of malic acid in an lemon, but maybe it is a kind of mandela effekt, or, and that is more likely, that I myselve have mistaken it in my memmory and in reality it was sayed, that there is actual more citric acid in apples, then there is malic acid.
So sometimes it is good to talk again about such things, in order to get correkted. So thank you for your reminder :flowers:
 
I also remember hearing something about apples having more acids than lemons, which doesn't make much sense. They do have more malic acid than lemons, but cherries have even more.

Here are excerpts from two more patents. In general, many metals from mineral rich waters could be treated with acids in order to make them more bioavailable.

It is known that cevitamic acid, also known as "vitamin C," normally occurs in the free condition in the human body. I have found that this acid and certain derivatives thereof form salt or salt-like combinations with metals and thereby yield therapeutic agencies for the introduction of such metals into the human system which are characterized by valuable and unusual properties. In addition to the therapeutic values imparted to these products by the therapeutic metal itself, the compounds in general have also anti-scorbutic effects. They possess anti-scorbutic action, which was not to be expected in view of the fact that the vitamin occurred universally as a free acid in fruits and vegetables and in the animal tissues; still less was it to be expected that, as I have found, the cevitamate radical will enhance the therapeutic efficiency of the metal.


In carrying out the objects of my invention, I first dissolve ascorbic acid in a suitable solvent, preferably water. To the solution thus formed I may add a solution of a base or salt of calcium or zinc or the solid compound itself. In most cases the reaction between the acid and the base or salt takes place spontaneously without the application of heat or pressure. It is sometimes desirable to moderately heat the reaction mixture in order to speed the reaction and render it more complete. In some cases, the reaction may take place under pressure and heat may be used simultaneously therewith. Where a carbonate is employed, I prefer to conduct the reaction in the cold, or with a minimum of heat, in order to keep as much as possible of the carbon dioxide in solution, as the gas increases the solubility of the metal ascorbate and preserves it.

 
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