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Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Konstantin said:
N1 is a Daughter Tv station to CNN for the Balkan Region.

According to some media here there is a possibility that government organize all this in order to proclaim a state of war , which means that all demonstrations must be canceled,because in a urgent situation like that , no mass gatherings of people are allowed.

Will se how the situation will develop.

This is exactly what I see in this incident in Kumanovo :( ... Same scenario how war started in Croatia ... it is to obvious ready made fast and effective action fro government forces, that it just don't look like they are dealing with unexpected terrorist attack ... it is very difficult to get any consisten info for ordinary man through the web right now, all is very inconsistent ... and confusing ...

N1 is a project fileed and started up with greed and power of local Balkan media gurus, who couldn't take over public TVs ... I know some of them personally ... blah!

I don't like when goverment took helicopters up and say to people to stay at home ...
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Is there at some latest session from C's any mentioning of the recent Balkans affairs, and the future of Balkans? Can you maybe point to me if there is something in that direction discussed with C's on channelling sessions?

thank you! :hug2: :hug:
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

solarmind said:
Is there at some latest session from C's any mentioning of the recent Balkans affairs, and the future of Balkans? Can you maybe point to me if there is something in that direction discussed with C's on channelling sessions?

thank you! :hug2: :hug:

No, there is nothing about Balkans in the C`s sessions.
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Konstantin said:
No, there is nothing about Balkans in the C`s sessions.

Maybe it is time to ask one today, if the crew will agree? :huh: :O :cry:
 
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it is getting wild Serbia is getting ready in case of spread of conflict

http://www.jutarnji.hr/kaos-u-kumanovu-zbog-sukoba-u-makedoniji--srbija-pojacava-policijske-snage-na-granicu--vucic-trazi-hitnu-sjednicu/1345914/
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Its something big and authorities know a lot about that. I have that kind of impression.
On a official press conference the authorities said that last few days they have noticed the armed group that came from Kosovo and some domestic members or supporters of the group join it. According to official police statement , their goal was to attack the police station in Kumanovo , but they were stopped in that with the police action that started this morning.
The group is very well armed and trained. The shooting is still active since they are hiding in a one of the Kumanovo`s settlement which have a lot of houses and narrow small streets.
Special police forces are on the ground. According to some media there are more then 20 injured police officers and possibly few of them are dead. Authorities are not releasing any informations . There are lot of propaganda , and a lot of misinformation right now so its very difficult to find what is real and what is not.

Very suspicious was the statement of the USA state office in Macedonia , where they sent a condolences то the families of the killed, although no informations of such a character were released in public.
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

not good ... take care! And stay tuned ... :hug2:
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Another video from Kumanov:


https://youtu.be/2OKoJ9J_Xo8

At this point it doesn't seem to make much sense for the government to send in armed gangs from the US-occupied territory of Kosovo and basically attack their own military (which they would probably use in case of further escalation of protests), it would be like shooting themselves in the foot. Besides, there are easier ways to discredit protests. Let's just hope NATO doesn't start propagating their usual 'humanitarian' intervention to restore 'peace' in the region.

Whatever the case, the whole situation in the Balkans seems to be going down hill, to say the least.

In other news, US just announced their new embassy in Kosovo a few days ago.

_http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/05/241911.htm

As an important symbol of the enduring friendship with the Republic of Kosovo, U.S. Ambassador to Kosovo Tracey Ann Jacobson broke ground on the new U.S. Embassy in Pristina today.

The new Embassy will be situated on a 12-acre site in central Pristina, and will include a chancery, a U.S. Marine Corps residence, a support annex and utility building, and facilities for the Embassy community. The $215.5 million project will incorporate numerous sustainable features and targets Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED®) Gold certification by the U.S. Green Building Council. Most of the workers that will be involved in the construction of the new Embassy will be from the local region.

The design architect is Davis Brody Bond of New York, New York, and Page of Washington, D.C., is the architect of record. BL Harbert International of Birmingham, Alabama, will construct the project, with anticipated completion in late 2017.

Since 1999, as part of the Department’s Capital Security Construction Program, the Bureau of Overseas Buildings Operations (OBO) has completed 121 new diplomatic facilities and has an additional 39 projects in design or under construction.

OBO’s mission is to provide safe, secure, and functional facilities that represent the U.S. Government to the host nation and support our staff in the achievement of U.S. foreign policy objectives. These facilities should represent American values and the best in American architecture, engineering, technology, sustainability, art, culture, and construction execution.
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

OMG! So as we see Kosovo is literary the USA colony and claimed theritory in Europe, they are building their facilities to support USA goals, they are rulled by USA goverment ... OMG OMG ... and this is all orchestrated by NATO to start up war on Balkans again ... Macedonia is bordering with Greece too .. don't forget that the whole thing in Kumanovo started with 20 armed people from another country attacked Kumanovo, claming to unite all land that belongs to Albanians ... And NATO and EU calling people to be calmed?! and no real reports coming out from the region ... unbelievable that this is happening again!

here is a last article from Croatian news don't look good at all ... this is not something that will end in few days, this is beginning of something much serious

http://m.dnevnik.hr/clanak/vijesti/svijet/akcija-makedonske-policije-u-kumanovu-12-policajaca-ranjeno---384405.html

Take care all who are in Macedonia, if you can leave somewhere else from Macedonia, maybe it is not bad idea to consider that ASAP ... :hug2:
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

maybe we should write a new thread with more precise title, for other members to help us follow and rethink this mess? so that we can maybe be better connected and organized to help eachother if things go wrong?

Probably borders towards EU will be blocked if anything more serious continue ... I don't even want to think, but just the memories of war 25 years ago flashes through my mind, how it was difficult to do anything just overnight ...

:huh:
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

In central informative show on Croatian national TV "Dnevnik", their correspondent joined from Macedonia, and basically said there seems that really current Macedonian government is behond all of this (in line with what Konstantin wrote). He also said that there were rumors that this armed gang agitated among people of Albanian nationality in Kumanovo few days prior to this "incident", but that people haven't supported and joined them.
Of course, all this is coming through official propaganda machine, so it should be taken with a lot of salt.

Taking what Anthony wrote into account, and that US embassy already expressed condolences to families of killed policemen (apparently EU did the same), it seems to me that West (since they basically control Albanian nationalists in Kosovo) works in cahoots with officials in Skopje, and that this all scenario is staged to deflect attention from things that were going on in Macedonia last few months (huge crisis because opposition showed - tapes and videos - to general public the level of corruption of the current government).

Here's the (internet) translation of one fresh article from new Croatian news/politics website "Telegram". It's kind of short mosaic composed by their reporters and excerpts from other media (including N1 TV). BTW, I think Telegram is mainstream media, FWIW.

_http://www.telegram.hr/politika-kriminal/u-makedoniji-borbe-jos-traju-a-neki-su-uvjereni-da-ih-je-organizirao-premijer/ said:
Chaos in Kumanovo: captured 27 terrorists, just reported to the Albanian separatists and claim that they are invaders

Security forces say that a small group of rebels infected in two houses

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The terrorists in Macedonia, namely 27 of them surrendered to the police, and the fighting still going on in Kumanovo still shot, says a source telegrams from Macedonia. Pristina Bota Sot wrote that the Albanian terrorist group NLA (UCK), which as very close to the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) has claimed responsibility for the attack. "We declare that we will continue to attack without mercy the police and army. We will fight to the end to unite territories with Albanian population. Today we are stronger, and tomorrow we will be even stronger. We are everywhere in the city, people and villages, "said the statement terrorist group transferred Albanian media.

The terrorists are saying that "an attack on police came in response to the" days-long harassment of Albanians around Kumanovo. "

Ljubomir Frckoski, former Interior Minister of Macedonia, says the telegram that has so far killed five police officers and civilian victims still can not be established.

Action is still ongoing


https://youtu.be/6ytyEgZoxSE

N1 occurs that is currently ongoing action against ten terrorists who were detained in two houses. There are gunshots, and the ambulance transporting wounded in the conflict continues. According to the N1, a large number of Albanians in the column of cars and 12 buses from Kumanovo license plates, fleeing from the conflict in Macedonia in Serbia.

Interior Minister Gordana Jankulovska and Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski is still not addressed, although the attack has lasted for more than 16 hours. Telegrams source previously afternoon returned from Kumanovo, where there is ongoing conflict terrorists and police , says that many suspect that everything is organized from a village near Kumanovo. There are allegedly far unknown people, the last three days to deliver the weapons and equipment needed for this attack.

The Prime Minister organizes supporters

There are some, so far unconfirmed rumors, it will be today or these days, in addition to protests against the government of Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski , who is in Macedonia are held daily, and held a counter protest. More sources from Macedonia, confirmed to us that there are some information to the ruling party VMRO-DPMNE could organize a counter demonstration in front of the main opposition SDSM, whose leader Zoran Zaev published information incriminating Gruevski and his ministers for serious corruption and cover-up portion of the murders. "The worst thing is if VMRO really send its members to protest against the opposition," says our source from Macedonia.

A state of emergency suspending the right to protest


https://youtu.be/EMyrte9VPWo

Mariglen Demiri, an activist of the Macedonian leftist movement "Solidarity" said the telegram to this attack has nothing to do with nationalism and hatred of the Macedonian and Albanian people. "This is a spectacle that aims very well directed from the political stakeholders of government. The goal of government is to save themselves from the so-called opposition "bombs" which, according to them, have a very controversial content, "says Demiri.

Our source from Kumanovo, says the situation is quite turned the focus people to protest against the government, on the conflicts in which they killed and three policemen. "The publication of emergency, suspended the constitutional right of individuals and groups are free to peacefully protest in all public areas." Said Demiri.

The police received reinforcements

Because of the situation in Kumanovo, where conflicts persist terrorists with the police, the Macedonian President Gjorge Ivanov ended a visit to Russia and returned to Macedonia. Al Jazeera reports that in front of the Macedonian Embassy in Vienna gathered 150 Albanians carrying the Albanian flag and the flag of the United States and shouting "Kosovo Liberation Army" - the Kosovo Liberation Army.

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Macedonian portal plusinfo.mk appears to still ongoing struggle for the last stronghold of the terrorists. In addition to guns, and hear the powerful detonations, and police received reinforcements.
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Maybe all this has something to do with this Greek Stream that should ass through Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and Austria - instead of South Stream. Looks like familiar handwriting, especially knowing that Bond Steel US military base is very near in Kosovo. Maybe those infiltrators were supposed to act like Majdan snipers in that nigh demonstrations Konstantin is speaking of. As this is ofgreat importance to Russia maybe they tipped of some inrel to Skopje, of what is to come. So maybe Macedonian Majdan is forestalled. Interesting first to offer condolences to famillies of killed policemen was US ambassador to Macedonia... Macedonian president also was supposed to attend today's parade in Moscow but he returned to Skopje due to this crisis...
 
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Yozilla said:
Maybe all this has something to do with this Greek Stream that should ass through Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and Austria - instead of South Stream. Looks like familiar handwriting, especially knowing that Bond Steel US military base is very near in Kosovo. Maybe those infiltrators were supposed to act like Majdan snipers in that nigh demonstrations Konstantin is speaking of. As this is ofgreat importance to Russia maybe they tipped of some inrel to Skopje, of what is to come. So maybe Macedonian Majdan is forestalled. Interesting first to offer condolences to famillies of killed policemen was US ambassador to Macedonia... Macedonian president also was supposed to attend today's parade in Moscow but he returned to Skopje due to this crisis...

I can share this view specially after I just read this article, this was happening yesterday, americans were warning Greece not to go into that agrement ... hm

http://rt.com/business/256981-greece-russia-us-gas/

from the article:
"Washington is pushing Athens not to abandon a Western-backed Trans-Adriatic Pipeline (TAP) project in favor of the Russia-proposed Turkish Stream, a pipeline that would bring Russian gas to Europe via Greece.

Greece should consider joining the TAP, which will link Europe to natural gas supplies from Azerbaijan via Turkey, Greece, Albania and the Adriatic Sea, top US energy diplomat Amos Hochstein said after talks with Greek officials, Reuters reported on Friday.

“Turkish Stream doesn't exist. There is no consortium to build it, there is no agreement to build it. So let's put that to the side, and wait until there's some movement on that and see if that's relevant or not relevant and in the meantime focus on what's important - the pipeline we already agreed to, that Greece already agreed to”, Hochstein claimed. He didn’t give any details on the meeting with Greek officials, saying that they “more agreed than disagreed.”

Greek Energy Minister Panagiotis Lafazanis, however, responded that the country would continue supporting the Russian gas pipeline.

“We are backing this project because we think it will be useful for our country,” the minister said in a statement after the talks."
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Saša said:
In central informative show on Croatian national TV "Dnevnik", their correspondent joined from Macedonia, and basically said there seems that really current Macedonian government is behond all of this (in line with what Konstantin wrote). He also said that there were rumors that this armed gang agitated among people of Albanian nationality in Kumanovo few days prior to this "incident", but that people haven't supported and joined them.
Of course, all this is coming through official propaganda machine, so it should be taken with a lot of salt.

Taking what Anthony wrote into account, and that US embassy already expressed condolences to families of killed policemen (apparently EU did the same), it seems to me that West (since they basically control Albanian nationalists in Kosovo) works in cahoots with officials in Skopje, and that this all scenario is staged to deflect attention from things that were going on in Macedonia last few months (huge crisis because opposition showed - tapes and videos - to general public the level of corruption of the current government).

Here's the (internet) translation of one fresh article from new Croatian news/politics website "Telegram". It's kind of short mosaic composed by their reporters and excerpts from other media (including N1 TV). BTW, I think Telegram is mainstream media, FWIW.

According to reports, the opposition was 'gifted' with these tapes and videos by the CIA to blackmail the government in Macedonia, so it's doesn't seem plausible that the West would at the same time be trying to cause unrest by leaking the information while at the same time working with the government in Macedonia to cover up the information that their leaks disclosed.

http://sputniknews.com/radio_red_line/20150320/1019788637.html

Yes, we're in the middle of an attempted coup d'état for example in Macedonia, and pressure against many other countries against Anglo-American forces. First of all, by the wonder boy of American foreign policy, George Soros, who has been financing Color Revolution all over the area, and then by the State Department itself, with Melia, the Victoria Nuland's deputy, who has been defending the attempted coup d'état that has been going on in Macedonia, which you had described. Thomas Melia, Nuland's deputy, said he doesn't see any problem in the fact that the head of the opposition has received tapes, recordings, made illegally by a foreign intelligence agency, which everybody identifies with the CIA and American agencies, against the elected government of Macedonia. So the government of Macedonia, fortunately, came out very strongly and said that they will not accept that external forces will destroy their country. At this moment, the population is mobilized behind the Prime Minister, Nikola Gruevski, who's 'fault' is that he didn't accept the sanctions against Russia and is supporting this pipeline, so at this point, we're in the middle of this fight, and I hope that everyone from the East and West will support this fight against the destabilization in Macedonia.
 
Re: Nuland attempts Kiev Version 2.0 in Skopje

Anthony said:
At this moment, the population is mobilized behind the Prime Minister, Nikola Gruevski, who's 'fault' is that he didn't accept the sanctions against Russia and is supporting this pipeline, so at this point, we're in the middle of this fight, and I hope that everyone from the East and West will support this fight against the destabilization in Macedonia.

IT looks like that destabilization of Macedonia is just happening infront of our eyes, and that is exactly what they want as a next step in NATO war with Russia. Also we have to know that Montenegro is actually little Russia on Mediterranean ... so on Balkans we have a min NATO ( Kosovo ) and mini Russia ( Montenegro ), relation with Russia getting stronger in Macedonia day by day, do you think NATO will not interfere? To me all this looks like a planed action with much bigger goal, maybe of the same size as what they did in Ukraine. If Anything goes wrong on Balkans, there is such a rise of nationalism in Croatia that it will be very difficult to look for help in our country among government and authorities, and than they just need to push church + nation buttons to get unemployed mans to go to war again ... :(
 
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