Major Austrian Protests Following Lockdown for the Unvaccinated

SOTTREADER

The Living Force
If people aren't careful these forced vaccinations won't only apply to adults, also to kids too. It won't also apply to just 2 jabs, it'll apply to boosters too. It'll also expand to other vaccines once they establish a precedent.

There's a lot that hinges on this and I pray the population isn't docile about what's about to happen.
 

Corvus

Jedi Council Member
Some may say, and have said in other boards, that they think these people should hold out. But when people's children and loved ones are going to go hungry, have to live in poverty because there is no money coming in to feed and house them, I strongly disagree that they should hold out and let their children starve.
Soon they will have no children to starve if it continues that way, it is not going to get better if you keep appeasing the tyrant.
Price of freedom is never cheap and it is paid in blood. Looking like that nobody would ever take a stand. Changes are brought by those willing to take some sacrifice.
So, overall, I think that on a soul level, they will be okay, as they will be overall. They know what to do to mitigate the problems to the best of their ability. They've read the information, done the research, they are informed and have let the Universe know that they are doing this under duress, they know it is all a scam, but have no choice.
There is always a choice, but not everyone wants to face consequences because most people are cowards, selfish and ignorant.

Demonstrations won t do anything to change the situation like they never did and it is just a matter of time before they are banned if the trend continues.
 

Vajra2

The Force is Strong With This One
For sure it's not about becoming emotionally sucked in and for sure it's not on everybody's path to protest on the streets - they may in the latter case have a different contribution to make.

The problem with humanity however has been that we are very deeply conditioned to defer to what we perceive as those with power in those hierarchies we encounter (perhaps a hangover from tribal living) - so that most of the time we out of short term self-interest default to avoiding standing up to be counted when issues of morality or rightness (in the evolved sense) arise.

We compensate with lots of meaningless and committment free philosophising, preaching and religion. As somebody said - where are the rights brigade (that would lynch you for using a trivially wrong word) when sh** actually happens?

Most deep down feel they can better advance their life situation by ingratiating themselves with the sources of power in these hierarchies (social, work, national, professional, other) than they can by figuring out and co-operating to do what in the longer term is the right thing for the group or society.

The more arrogant think they can grab power without downsides and responsibility.

Many can't even conceive of any other way of living - but of course they miss the basic reality that if almost everybody lives entropically/by preying on those weaker and ignoring the hard issues then our societies can only be a mess of suffering and injustice.

This essentially is why the world is in such a mess and why our societies default to placing the least suited in leadership positions - even if most of the time these are also seeking to climb within other hierarchies. Very few have what it takes to stand alone.

They either way they count on our behaving as the frog in the pot of warming water....

We oblige most of the time, but when we do react we tend to do so having built up a head of excess of anger - out of a not very evolved form of what is also short-term self-interest. We often become so exercised about the issues or causes (and we're easily manipulated by those pressing our buttons) that we quickly descend into infighting and violence.

The test right now I guess is whether enough globally are awakening from this stupor to enable the mass opposition required to block what is happening - but without losing it. Even peaceful protest may well find itself subjected to violence, which is why it's critical that enough stand together.

Whatever else we can't say that we didn't know there was a problem - it's long been clear, but the letters in which it's set out have become exponentially larger and more obvious in recent years.

As everything in life it's a test of self knowledge, courage, growth and awareness - of how much we have learned and of where we are on the path...
 

Pat

Jedi
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Austria announces a new national lockdown and that vaccination will be compulsory against (you know what)
Here are the news in Instagram in Spain today. The information is kept general in the title when it is being said that the lockdown is for unvaccinated only. Scare tactics for Spanish people?

Also today, news that 60% in Intensive Emergency Unit (ICU) are unvaccinated
 

Vajra2

The Force is Strong With This One
The trouble seems to be that (a) case numbers don't necessarily entail illness caused the virus alone (the died of versus with point) or even virus caused illness at all. (ref the PRP test false positives) There's also the matter (b) that plenty of offical data sources seem pretty clearly suggest that it's at least as much the unvaccinated that are falling ill - e.g. the Public Health England reports

Also (c) that even if the cases are accepted as genuine the vaccinations clearly are not working.

The data also suggests that except in the case of the already very ill or specifically susceptible that the virus is not exactly the black death - so who is going accept the seemingly rapidly increasing risk of successive vaccine top-ups?

The goalposts keep on moving...

Why keep on doubling down at enormous risk on what doesn't seem to be working?
 
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Vajra2

The Force is Strong With This One
Ref. the various posts on human behaviours.

The following are some © bits of what I suppose could be called free verse which literally came to mind during a period of frustration with the world some years back. Not sure how they might read to anybody else, but maybe it's time to share...

Think!
As babes,
Forgetting all
We fall into the world.
Small animals consumed by need
We scream
They coo
They fuss
Is this through fear of more, denial, or instinct blind?
Or that deep down there’s seen some spark within?
We grow
The schooling starts
Life does its stuff
Naïve we swallow whole
Self-interest sold as wisdom
What else is there to do?
Then suffering
With time our drama firms
Becomes our mask
We’ve learned to bend the rules
To keep our fingers clean
The die is cast
The clothes the self, defended to the last
Yet pain persists expands
In time consumes the whole but is denied
This state for some is everything
Yet in a few the heart speaks out
The still small voice
Can this be it?
Is this the All?

***

Thus armed
We venture forth
Our battle to begin
With life
Unsure
Determined to survive
We fight
According to our way
We lie
We steal
We take from those less strong
A few concede
Give in
Some know
Most alternate
Between arrogance and hate
Or blinded by indifference
Vacillate
Taking advantage when they can
While posturing to power
Self sold
The ladder they ascend
Sound bites not wisdom
Hearts closed.
Self loathing
They stagger to the grave
Is this success?
With luck we crash and burn
Hopes turned to ash
Eased towards awakening

***
Our world,
With beauty filled,
Designed to cater for our needs,
Asks only that we Love and learn.

Somehow we won’t,
Most don’t know how,
They run in fear,
Grasp after what they think they need,
Make suffering,
Cause pain,
Refuse to see.

Consistently refuse to question self,
To learn,
Or think where this might lead.
We’re far too smart,
Not children we,
We’re rigid in our views,
Closed minds
There’s options very few.

Next thing we know,
We’re caught,
By power controlled,
And hierarchy ruled -
With leaders bought,
Bureaucracies that feed on those they ‘serve’,
Jobs for the boys,
No matter what the cost.

Then threats invented,
Minorities to blame,
Fear hyped,
Terrorism,
Regime change,
Weapons for profit,
Bankers,
Unrest,
Battles,
War.

Then death and dying,
Drugs for arms,
Societies destroyed,
Hate fed,
Dictatorship.

Whilst industry,
The stress machine,
Make rich a few,
Feeds needs unreal,
Destroys our world.
Makes mountains,
Waste for which we pay,
In oh so many ways.
Forced use of oil,
Adds fuel to the fire.

Then never-ending debt,
Declining health.
The illness industry,
Bleeds dry,
Leaves people destitute,
Whilst law,
Does similar.

Then media and religion,
Bought and sold,
Conspire to disempower.

Trapped in this bubble of belief,
Bought into lies,
Always correct,
Denying what we know to be,
We see only what we’re meant to see.
Denying self,
Denying heart,
Denying what we are,
We sleep.

Then rhetoric,
We talk of families, love and care,
Of motherhood and apple pie,
Whilst building the facade ever higher.
Doing to others what we fear they’ll do to us,
We need the work.
But this???

This is the world we make.
It need not be.
Yet be it will,
Until we answer to the call….
 
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SOTTREADER

The Living Force
Soon they will have no children to starve if it continues that way, it is not going to get better if you keep appeasing the tyrant.
Price of freedom is never cheap and it is paid in blood. Looking like that nobody would ever take a stand. Changes are brought by those willing to take some sacrifice.

There is always a choice, but not everyone wants to face consequences because most people are cowards, selfish and ignorant.

Demonstrations won t do anything to change the situation like they never did and it is just a matter of time before they are banned if the trend continues.
The problem is people want "freedom" but don't want to pay the price to be "free". People forget we live amongst psychopaths and that the freedom we enjoy / enjoyed wasn't given freely and it's now being taken away with no intention of being given back freely. People think this is a bad dream that will end by itself or because the psychopaths come to their senses but sadly they forget the rules of nature and the price that must be paid.

People will have to struggle to get back that which they lost - it sure won't be given back for free. Your children won't be free, you won't be free, no one will be free but those who rule over the cattle. It's even worse because we know they want to depopulate the world, they want complete control of biology and what people think. Does anyone really think they will stop themselves? Lest we forget the definition of psychopath.
 

Corvus

Jedi Council Member
The problem is people want "freedom" but don't want to pay the price to be "free". People forget we live amongst psychopaths and that the freedom we enjoy / enjoyed wasn't given freely and it's now being taken away with no intention of being given back freely. People think this is a bad dream that will end by itself or because the psychopaths come to their senses but sadly they forget the rules of nature and the price that must be paid.

People will have to struggle to get back that which they lost - it sure won't be given back for free. Your children won't be free, you won't be free, no one will be free but those who rule over the cattle. It's even worse because we know they want to depopulate the world, they want complete control of biology and what people think. Does anyone really think they will stop themselves? Lest we forget the definition of psychopath.
Nothing you can do then let it go to a toilet soon. I am here just for seeing fireworks, it woùld be a shame to not see it.
 

SOTTREADER

The Living Force
Nothing you can do then let it go to a toilet soon. I am here just for seeing fireworks, it woùld be a shame to not see it.
I won't lie, I'm here to see the fireworks too.

I know 2 things
  • I won't take the poison
  • There will be fireworks
I put full faith in the universe and totally embrace my mortality. Whatever will be will be. I know there is more than what we can see.
 

naorma

Jedi Council Member
Tha schedule for todays demonstrations.
As you can see this is spread all over Vienna! And pay attention to the last 2!


* Loudspeaker walk 11:00 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. Donauzentrum Kagran subway, (22nd district) via Reichsbrücke Praterstern, Praterstraße to Urania
* Loudspeaker walk 11:11 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. Reumannplatz (10th district) via Favoritenstraße, Südtiroler Platz, Favoritenstraße to Resselpark
* Loudspeaker walk 11:20 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. (18th district ) corner of Währinger Gürtel / Wahringer Straße to Votivkirche
* Rally from 13:30 to 16 o'clock Schillerplatz (1st district)
* Loudspeaker walk 6:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. Helmut-Zilk-Platz (1st distric) via Kärntner Straße, Pestsäule, Stephansplatz, Schwedenplatz and retoure
* Rally from 12:00 o'clock Heldenplatz (1st distric )
* March from 15:00 Heldenplatz (1st distric)- ring round against the direction of travel
* Rally 17:00 o'clock to 20:00 o'clock Ballhausplatz, 1st distric Vienna
* Demo walk from 11:30 a.m. 7th district, Vienna Neubaugürtel - Stollgasse - Kaiserstraße - Burggasse - Bellariastraße - Ring against direction of travel to Burgtor
* Rally 17:00 o'clock to Sunday 15:00 o'clock Ballhausplatz (1st distric)
* Rally 13:00 h to 18:00 Schwarzenbergplatz (1st distric)
* Parade at approx. 11:00 a.m. 15th district Europaplatz - Mariahilfastraße - Burgring
* Rally at 12:00 o'clock 7th district Platz der Menschenrechte / Museum Square
* Permanent demo (Democamp) City Park (1010 )
* Rally at 15:45 Human Rights Square (7th district) Registered by FEDERAL ARMY UNION:
:* Rally at 11:30 a.m. Goethe Monument in Goethegasse, (1st distric), Registered by Dr. Maria Hubmer-Mogg for NURSING PROFESSIONS

And: We have a wonderful sunny day!!
 

Ursus Minor

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Tha schedule for todays demonstrations.
As you can see this is spread all over Vienna! And pay attention to the last 2!


* Loudspeaker walk 11:00 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. Donauzentrum Kagran subway, (22nd district) via Reichsbrücke Praterstern, Praterstraße to Urania
* Loudspeaker walk 11:11 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. Reumannplatz (10th district) via Favoritenstraße, Südtiroler Platz, Favoritenstraße to Resselpark
* Loudspeaker walk 11:20 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. (18th district ) corner of Währinger Gürtel / Wahringer Straße to Votivkirche
* Rally from 13:30 to 16 o'clock Schillerplatz (1st district)
* Loudspeaker walk 6:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. Helmut-Zilk-Platz (1st distric) via Kärntner Straße, Pestsäule, Stephansplatz, Schwedenplatz and retoure
* Rally from 12:00 o'clock Heldenplatz (1st distric )
* March from 15:00 Heldenplatz (1st distric)- ring round against the direction of travel
* Rally 17:00 o'clock to 20:00 o'clock Ballhausplatz, 1st distric Vienna
* Demo walk from 11:30 a.m. 7th district, Vienna Neubaugürtel - Stollgasse - Kaiserstraße - Burggasse - Bellariastraße - Ring against direction of travel to Burgtor
* Rally 17:00 o'clock to Sunday 15:00 o'clock Ballhausplatz (1st distric)
* Rally 13:00 h to 18:00 Schwarzenbergplatz (1st distric)
* Parade at approx. 11:00 a.m. 15th district Europaplatz - Mariahilfastraße - Burgring
* Rally at 12:00 o'clock 7th district Platz der Menschenrechte / Museum Square
* Permanent demo (Democamp) City Park (1010 )
* Rally at 15:45 Human Rights Square (7th district) Registered by FEDERAL ARMY UNION:
:* Rally at 11:30 a.m. Goethe Monument in Goethegasse, (1st distric), Registered by Dr. Maria Hubmer-Mogg for NURSING PROFESSIONS

And: We have a wonderful sunny day!!

Here are some pictures taken at the demonstrations in Vienna today


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oe24 has put the number of demonstrators at 170,000.


Interesting German-language coverage and commentary can be found at

bachheimer.com
 

naorma

Jedi Council Member
Yes, that was the biggest demonstration we had in Austria since 1945, I guess.

But still too less! As a guy from Bad Aussee said: "Now we take all the people from Salzkammergut together and and then we send the Viennese packing" (I dont know if this is a correct translation of the German sentence "Und dann jagen wir die Wiener zum Teufel". I totally agreed with him and said I would join him.
 

Vajra2

The Force is Strong With This One
It's difficult to tell just how many turned out given the playing down of numbers and minimal coverage in the media - but it seems as though our Austrian friends have not been slow to stand up and be counted.:clap:

The protest was apparently spread over many centres in the city, and is ongoing. It seems likely too that the numbers are massively in excess of what is being reported. Huge protests in many other cities around the world too.

Which is so good to see!

The big question I suppose is how and whether the pressure can be maintained and leveraged to deliver the sort of deep change that is needed. It'd be timely if this week somehow saw the revelation of vaccine, virus and more wrong doing in high places - in a manner which gets real traction...

Those in power will no doubt play for time in the hope that the intensity will be short lived while trying to buy off the protestors with faint promises - when what's needed is probably the collapse of the various governments concerned...
 
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naorma

Jedi Council Member
If people get suppressed some of them become very creative!
1st picture:
Because religious practice is allowed:
Invitation for all
Association "Free Art of Living" invites to the reading of Sacred Scriptures during the lockdown.
What: We begin with the reading of the Bhagavad Gita, an epic about love and devotion.
When: Daily Mon to Fri at 5:00 pm during lockdown!
When.
All are welcome

2nd picture
When we are not allowed to go to the pub, I meet my family or friends on
Mon-Thurs 14-16, Tue and Fri 10-13, We 13-15, Saturday morning pub.
Nothing is planned for Sundays, you want your rest sometimes! Austria we love you!
(These are food stores which have to be open)

Or another one:
 

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naorma

Jedi Council Member
Report from an eyewitness concerning an attack against police officers

Very emotional moments yesterday in Vienna. One particular highlight that was shared with us:
A group of disruptive rioters wanted to attack police officers, whereupon peaceful demonstrators placed themselves between the officers and the aggressors to prevent this.

In solidarity, the officers then took off their helmets .

The politeness and friendliness of the police officers, who showed more and more solidarity, were also extremely striking!
THANKS

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