Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 Crashes in Ukraine

NOTE from J. Arnoldski: Fort Russ guest analyst Dr. Eduard Popov has received confirmation of this report straight from Makeevka.

Kiev BUK missile hits Makeevka: Ukraine's Malaysian Boeing lie is now exposed (Video)
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/02/kiev-buk-missile-hits-makeevka-ukraines.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ZvmR9DdxY (1:40 min.)

February 1, 2017 - Yesterday evening, January 31st, the tail section of a BUK missile launched by the Ukrainian army from the outskirts of Avdeevka fell in the residential sector of the city of Makeevka.

The missile part fell right in the yard of a private home and caught fire.

Employees of the Ministry for Emergency Situations of the Donetsk People’s Republic arrived at the scene upon calls from local residents and extinguished the fire.

Russian Spring News would like to offer the following commentary:

At what target was this shot by such a Ukrainian anti-air defense complex which Ukraine has assured there are none of in the so-called Anti-Terrorist Operation zone in Donbass, and whose absence from the frontline is alleged to be the main reason why Ukraine couldn’t have shot down the Malaysian Boeing?

The target of the Ukrainian missile was a large unmanned aerial vehicle of the OSCE observatory mission which is recording Kiev's genocide against the peaceful civilians of Donbass and is thereby seriously hindering the Ukrainian Armed Forces from executing the criminal orders of the Kiev authorities.

Let’s see how Ukraine will comment on the presence of the infamous BUK complex in the Avdeevka area which, as it has assured, there is no such thing in Donbass.
 
With the political climate in the Netherlands heating up because of the upcoming general elections on March 15 all sorts of non-issues, scaremongering and fake news are popping up. The following contains several examples of each just for archiving purposes. It would be a waste of bandwidth to verbally cite any of them here IMO.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/02/doubts-about-authenticity-of-signatures-that-called-for-ukraine-referendum/
http://nltimes.nl/2017/02/09/voter-fraud-investigated-netherlands-ukraine-referendum-new-election-workers
Rebuttal (Dutch only): http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2017/02/eerlijk_initiatief_besmeurd_door_leugenachtige_politici.html

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/02/mps-confirm-general-election-vote-will-be-all-pen-and-paper-to-avoid-fraud/
More of the same: https://www.google.nl/search?q=elections+influencing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=j7ycWMb2OZD38Ae0q7foBA#q=influencing+elections+netherlands

http://nltimes.nl/2017/02/09/netherlands-exit-eu-catastrophic-rabobank
 
Today SOTT carries --in its Flashback series-- a May 30, 2015 article displaying eyewitness testimony about a SU fighter jet downing the MH17 Boeing airliner:

https://www.sott.net/article/342452-MH17-eyewitness-Lev-Aleksandrovich-comes-forth
 
Palinurus said:
Today SOTT carries --in its Flashback series-- a May 30, 2015 article displaying eyewitness testimony about a SU fighter jet downing the MH17 Boeing airliner:

https://www.sott.net/article/342452-MH17-eyewitness-Lev-Aleksandrovich-comes-forth

Thanks for Posting the SOTT Flashback, Palinurus.

This quote is of interest, due to the claim that some people witnessed parachutists ejecting but that the chutes didn't open? To my knowledge, I haven't read any other reports that mentioned "parachutes" during the investigation of Flight 17? Although one report did surface - suggesting 2 crash sites?

Lev's wife had gone inside the house. I hadn't noticed. Lev gave me the knife and souvenir she had just picked up from inside the house. He gave both objects to me. His wife said: "Maxim, these are for you. As a present. Because you are the first who really wanted to listen to us."

I felt tears coming. Nine months I spent behind my laptop looking for clues, now, here in the huge crash area things were totally different. I have had dreams one of my.....thoughts went through my head which I will keep to myself. I started crying, crying.......Two people had come together with me, a curious villager showed up and Lev and his wife......I couldn't stop the tears.....some people had told me they saw десантики (parachutists), but their chutes never opened.

"Maxim, maxim, cry. Don't worry. All of us cried a lot. For days we all cried."
 
This quote is of interest, due to the claim that some people witnessed parachutists ejecting but that the chutes didn't open? To my knowledge, I haven't read any other reports that mentioned "parachutes" during the investigation of Flight 17? Although one report did surface - suggesting 2 crash sites?

No, I'm pretty certain parachutes weren't mentioned before, even though some witnesses reported more than one fighter jet being airborne at the time of the downing of MH17. Must have been pilot(s) of such fighters as commercial airlines don't have parachutes on board AFAIK.


Meanwhile, more news about the Dutch referendum case -- voting on treaty ratification has been postponed at least until after the upcoming elections on March 15:

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/02/out-of-time-no-ukraine-treaty-vote-before-the-election/

Out of time: no Ukraine treaty vote before the election

February 13, 2017

The Dutch parliament will not take a decision about whether or not to ratify the EU’s treaty with Ukraine before the March 15 general election, news agency ANP (in Dutch) said on Monday.

Parliament may debate the compromise deal worked out by prime minister Mark Rutte next week but there will be no time left to finalise the bill and win approval in the senate, ANP said.

Next week is the last week parliament will meet before the March vote. The senate will only meet once more, on March 7.

In December, prime minister Mark Rutte won the support of the 27 other European leaders for a supplementary declaration to the Ukraine treaty which makes it clear what the agreement actually entails.

This, he hopes, will enable the Dutch parliament to ratify the treaty, despite the April referendum in which 61% voted against ratification. Even though the referendum was advisory, MPs have said justice must be done to the outcome.
 
Palinurus said:
This RT piece is a fair compilation of content and writing style of the JIT magazine. That's why I said almost all fluff and nearly no substance.

Meanwhile, other news has surfaced in connection with the 30 million dollar reward which was on offer previously for anyone delivering substantial clues about the perpetrators:

http://sputniknews.com/world/20160608/1040965099/mh17-private-detective-papers.html

'Explosive' Papers Seized From Private Detective Investigating MH17 Crash

02:20 08.06.2016 (updated 02:21 08.06.2016)

German and Swiss authorities have confiscated documents from private detective Josef Resch, who has been conducting his own investigation of the 2014 crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, Dutch officials and media said Tuesday.

Investigators believe that some of the documents seized after last week's raid on the detective's home in Bad Schwartau, northern Germany, may shed light on the circumstances of the tragedy. Some of the papers are said to be "explosive" and could help determine the culprits.

According to De Telegraaf daily, the German detective began his own probe two months after the catastrophe, and has received some $19 million for his investigations. His generous clients remain unknown.

"We are hoping to get some information about this. That's why the raids at his home were carried out," the spokesman for the prosecution service, Wim De Bruin, told AFP.

The contents of Resch's safe-deposit box in a bank in Zurich, Switzerland, were also inspected.

"We don't actually know what was in the box. The Swiss judge must now decide if its contents can be handed over to Dutch officials," the spokesman said.

He added that it is possible that the detective may have been in contact with the culprits.

The Boeing 777 aircraft, operated by Malaysia Airlines as Flight 17, was en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was struck by a BUK anti-aircraft missile while flying at 33,000 feet over war-torn eastern Ukraine on June 17, 2014. All 298 passengers and crew — the majority of them Dutch — died in the crash.

A criminal investigation is ongoing in the Netherlands to identify who fired the missile and where from, although many believe that those responsible will never be brought to justice.

The first official findings by criminal investigators are expected after the summer, as they await further information from Russia.

Edited to insert hyperlink to Reply #323
There is an interview with him from april 2016, two months before his house was raided, where he talks about MH17 in German. In the audio below it is ap. 7:30-10:30.
http://www.swr.de/swr1/bw/programm/leute/josef-resch/-/id=1895042/did=17352548/nid=1895042/t16vdr/index.html
 
Thanks for finding and sharing this, thorbiorn. :cool2:

It's a pity there's not much of detailed substance to report because the detective has signed a contract not to reveal anything to anyone. It appears there have been two interconnected investigations carried out by him, the known one --costing 30 million-- about what (really) happened aka who did it, and the second one --for another 17 million-- to find a new 'Snowdon'-like source to reveal who has been busy hiding the facts of the case. Both investigations are claimed to have been successfully and reliably concluded, written statements have been recorded and were deposited at a notary's office in May. The private detective has been payed off but has stopped working altogether now (gone in retirement) because of the workload and the many death threats he received especially in connection with the MH17 assignments. According to his estimate the chance that ever will be revealed to the general public who did it and who is hiding the facts (probably the same culprit) is about fifty-fifty and he warned that knowing the real facts will cause the next of kin of the victims and the public at large even more grief and pain than already has been inflicted. He supposed that in all likelihood this whole MH17 affair will be handled and concluded secretly without knowledge of anyone not directly involved.
 
Source: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/02/journalist-images-dont-suggest-more-mh17-human-remains-says-minister/

Journalist images ‘don’t suggest more MH17 human remains’, says minister

February 16, 2017

Images and evidence collected in eastern Ukraine by a Dutch journalist who returned with a piece of bone from an MH17 plane crash victim do not suggest there are more human remains, reports ANP (Dutch only).

Security minister Stef Blok announced this was the government’s view in a statement to parliament on Thursday, although a relative of one victim had asked for a new search in January.

Michel Spekkers, the journalist who found the bone, had claimed there was much more, but Blok said this was not substantiated by the evidence that Spekkers had brought back.

But Spekkers told NU.nl (in Dutch) he could demonstrate that there were human remains left to be found.

On his return to the Netherlands in January, with colleague Stefan Beck, many items they had brought back from their trip to the crash site were confiscated by officials at Schiphol airport.

Last September, a Joint Investigation Team examining the crash that killed 298 people on July 17th 2014 reported that it was caused by a hit from a BUK missile brought in from Russia. Blok added that there will be another search by local Ukrainian authorities in spring, when the snow has gone.
 
Ran into a NYT article about the Dutch referendum on the EU-Ukraine treaty, the upcoming Dutch (and other European) elections, Russian meddling in other countries' affairs, and assorted other stuff:

_https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/world/europe/russia-ukraine-fake-news-dutch-vote.html?rref=collection%2Fbyline%2Fandrew-higgins&action=click&contentCollection=undefined&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection&_r=0

(photographs omitted)
Europe

Fake News, Fake Ukrainians: How a Group of Russians Tilted a Dutch Vote

By ANDREW HIGGINS FEB. 16, 2017

THE HAGUE — Harry van Bommel, a left-wing member of the Dutch Parliament, had persuasive allies in convincing voters that they should reject a trade pact with Ukraine — his special “Ukrainian team,” a gleefully contrarian group of émigrés whose sympathies lay with Russia.

They attended public meetings, appeared on television and used social media to denounce Ukraine’s pro-Western government as a bloodthirsty kleptocracy, unworthy of Dutch support. As Mr. Van Bommel recalled, it “was very handy to show that not all Ukrainians were in favor.”

Handy but also misleading: The most active members of the Ukrainian team were actually from Russia, or from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, and parroted the Kremlin line.

The Dutch referendum, held last April, became a battering ram aimed at the European Union. With turnout low, Dutch voters rejected the trade agreement between the European Union and Ukraine, delighting Moscow, emboldening pro-Russia populists around Europe and leaving political elites aghast.

It is unclear whether the Ukrainian team was directed by Russia or if it was acting out of shared sympathies, and Mr. Van Bommel said he never checked their identities. But Europe’s political establishment, already rattled by Britain’s vote to leave the European Union and the election of President Trump in the United States, is worried that the Netherlands referendum could foreshadow what is to come.

With elections slated for France, Germany and possibly Italy this year, officials across Europe are warning that the Russians are actively interfering, echoing the Central Intelligence Agency’s assertions that Moscow meddled in the United States presidential election.

Norway announced this month that Russia-linked hackers had attacked government ministries and a political party. Britain’s defense minister has accused Moscow of “weaponizing disinformation.” German, French and Italian officials have also accused Russia-linked partisans of meddling.

The Netherlands is holding its own national elections on March 15, and domestic intelligence officials say that foreign countries, notably Russia, have tried hundreds of times in recent months to penetrate the computers of government agencies and businesses. Volkskrant, a Dutch newspaper, reported last week that the same two Russian hacking groups that pilfered emails from the Democratic National Committee were among those targeting the Netherlands.

The Dutch interior minister announced that all vote tallies in the March election would be done by hand so as to remove computers from the electoral process and calm fears of hacking by unidentified “state actors.”

“Those in power are very worried — there is more than ample reason for alarm over interference in elections,” said Sijbren de Jong of the Hague Center for Strategic Studies, a research group in The Hague, the seat of the Dutch government. “But the real risk are populists who run, knowingly or unwittingly, with Russia’s agenda because they know it is damaging to the status quo in Europe that they want to destroy. All Russia really needs to do is sit back and let populists do their bidding.”

No one has yet come up with concrete evidence that the Russian state, rather than individual Russians, is working to skew the election, and many wonder why Moscow would even bother trying to do so in a small country with none of the geopolitical heft of the United States or Germany. But Mr. de Jong said the referendum last year showed that “a little effort goes a long way” and could help “destroy the European Union from inside.”

The Netherlands should be difficult terrain for Russia. Last year, the Dutch Safety Board linked Russia to the death of 298 people — including nearly 200 Dutch nationals — in a passenger plane flying from Amsterdam that was shot down in July 2014 over territory held by Russian-armed rebels in eastern Ukraine.

The finding was a public relations disaster for Moscow, and Russian hackers have attacked computers at the Dutch agency, while Russian sympathizers in the Netherlands, including members of Mr. Van Bommel’s Ukrainian team, have labored tirelessly to promote implausible alternative theories for the downing of the Boeing jet carrying Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.

Even Geert Wilders, the country’s anti-Europe, anti-immigrant, anti-establishment firebrand, has kept a distance from Moscow, unlike populist leaders in France and Italy. Yet if Mr. Wilders, whose party is leading in opinion polls, is not an ally, his Euroskeptic agenda dovetails perfectly with the Kremlin’s broader agenda to weaken the European Union and shatter European unity against Russia.

Sico van der Meer, a research fellow at the Netherlands Institute of International Relations, said Russia viewed the West as an adversary and had a clear interest in seeing the election of anti-establishment populists who, no matter what their personal take on Russia, all want to undermine the European Union and, in some cases, NATO.

Russians, he added, “believe that making your enemy weaker makes yourself stronger.”

The Dutch intelligence agency, the AIVD, in a publicly released assessment of Russian activities, agreed that measuring the scale of any state-sponsored Russian interference was extremely difficult, as Moscow’s effort to shape public opinion “takes place in a twilight zone between diplomacy and intelligence.”

But the report also noted that the Netherlands had been targeted as part of a “global campaign to influence policy and perceptions on Russia” and, as part of this effort, Moscow had made use of a “network of contacts built up over the years.”

One such contact is Vladimir Kornilov, a Russian-born historian and political analyst who grew up in eastern Ukraine and now lives in The Hague, where he runs a one-man research outfit called the Center for Eurasian Studies. Emails stolen by a pro-Ukrainian hacking group show how Mr. Kornilov offered information and advice to politicians and others in Moscow during his previous work at a Russian-funded research institute in Kiev.

Before the Dutch referendum last year, Mr. Kornilov campaigned against the Ukraine trade deal, describing himself benignly as “a Ukrainian expat in The Hague” who was “stunned by the seemingly endless stream of lies and propaganda” about Russia and felt obliged to respond.

“After the referendum here, everybody thought this was just a Dutch problem, but now we see it was just the beginning,” Mr. Kornilov said in an interview, denying any financial or other links to the Russian state. “There is a huge crisis in the European Union.”

Nor did he agitate alone. He contacted Mr. Van Bommel as well as Thierry Baudet, the head of a conservative research group, Forum for Democracy, which he has since converted into a political party that takes Russia’s side on a host of issues and is competing for seats in the March election on a platform of hostility to the European Union.

During the referendum campaign, Mr. Baudet posted a Twitter message saying that Ukraine “is not a nation state” and retweeted a false report that Ukrainian soldiers had crucified a 3-year-old Russian-speaking boy in eastern Ukraine. The crucifixion story began with an invented report by Russia’s main state-controlled television channel, which interviewed a supposed Ukrainian witness to the crucifixion who was later identified as a Russian actress.

The bogus crucifixion story circulated through social media and was followed by an even more blatant exercise in fake news, when a video appeared on YouTube that purported to show members of the Azov Battalion, a group of Ukrainian militants, burning the Dutch flag and threatening terrorist attacks if Dutch voters did not support Ukraine.

The video was quickly dismissed as a fraud and was later linked by Bellingcat, a British-based investigative website, to a so-called troll factory in St. Petersburg, a Russian institute that churns out fake news and abuses Russia’s critics online, using social media as a distribution system.

“All the Kremlin has to do is click like or retweet and then sit back and say ‘thank you,’” said Mr. de Jong, the researcher.

The anonymity of the internet, he added, makes it difficult to distinguish between ordinary people voicing their genuine opinions and state-sponsored trolls. “There is no smoking gun, only lots of smoke,” Mr. de Jong acknowledged.

Mr. Baudet, in an interview in Amsterdam, denied spouting Russia propaganda and said he was merely trying to counter what he called “Europe’s remarkable Russophobia” and to make sure that Russia’s side of the story did not get drowned out.

Ukraine did send officials and activists to the Netherlands to lobby support for a “yes” vote, presenting Ukraine as a victim of Russian aggression. But, unlike some activists on the other side, they openly declared their identities and affiliation.

Michiel Servaes, a Labor Party member of Parliament, campaigned in favor of the pact with Ukraine and said people like Mr. Baudet promoted a narrative that was “word for word what would be used by a spokesman from the Kremlin.” He recalled facing a barrage of criticism at one public meeting from a member of the audience who introduced herself as a Ukrainian but who turned out to be Russian.

“It was really quite shocking,” Mr. Servaes said. “People presented themselves as Ukrainians but were in reality Russians.”

For his part, Mr. Van Bommel acknowledged that some of his “Ukrainian” helpers were perhaps Russian but said it was not his job to verify their identities.

“I never ask people to see their passports,” he said during an interview in The Hague. “If they support our political platform they are welcome.”

A particularly active member of the Ukrainian team was Nikita Ananjev, a 26-year-old student born in Moscow who moved with his mother to the Netherlands, where he is now chairman of the Russian Student Association.

He said he had attended 15 or more public meetings across the Netherlands during the referendum campaign, speaking out against the Ukrainian pact and what he described as the European Union’s “rusty and corrupted nomenklatura” and its unfairly negative views of Russia.

Mr. Ananjev, now a university student in the eastern Dutch region of Twente, went to Moscow in 2013 for a “youth leaders school,” a program sponsored by Rossotrudnichestvo, a state-funded organization that promotes cultural exchanges and works to promote Moscow’s take on the world. In December, he visited Brussels for the European Russian Forum, an annual gathering of Moscow-friendly politicians and experts supported by the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Complaining that Russians who defend their country and criticize its adversaries often get labeled unfairly as intelligence operatives, he said in an interview: “I am not a spy. Not yet.”

Rebuttal here (Dutch only; warning -- strong and foul language): http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2017/02/wat_no_munnie.html
 
Source: http://nltimes.nl/2017/02/22/parliamentary-majority-supports-pm-ruttes-ukraine-deal-compromise

Parliamentary majority supports PM Rutte's Ukraine deal compromise

By Janene Pieters on February 22, 2017 - 10:50

Prime Minister Mark Rutte got support from a majority in the lower house of Dutch parliament for amendments he wants to add to the association agreement between the European Union and Ukraine so that the Netherlands can ratify it. In the Tweede Kamer on Tuesday the VVD, PvdA, D66 and GroenLinks supported his solution, NOS reports (in Dutch).

The Tweede Kamer, the lower house of Dutch parliament, already approved the association agreement. But when a majority voted against the agreement in a referendum last year, a solution had to be sought. The Netherlands is currently the only EU country who hasn't ratified the agreement yet.

Rutte came up with a compromise in which amendments would be added to the treaty to ease the no-voters' concerns about the treaty. These amendments include that the treaty is not a stepping stone for the Ukraine to become a EU Member State and that it does not bind EU countries to provide military support to Ukraine, among other things.

The leaders of other EU countries already agreed to these amendments. Now that the Tweede Kamer gave the go ahead, it is only the Senate that still has to consider them. It is not yet clear whether a majority in the Eerste Kamer will vote for the amendments. According to NOS, the CDA plays a clear role here. In the Tweede Kamer, the CDA voted against the amendments, but it is possible that the CDA senators will support the compromise.

It is unlikely that this will happen before the elections on March 15th. It takes on average about three months for a bill to pass through the Eerste Kamer.

Similar, but shorter: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/02/dutch-lower-house-votes-in-favour-of-ukraine-treaty-compromise/
 
Source: http://nltimes.nl/2017/03/06/ukraine-russia-face-mh17-lawsuit-icj

Ukraine, Russia face off in MH17 lawsuit in ICJ

By Janene Pieters on March 6, 2017 - 10:11

The Ukraine and Russia are facing off in a lawsuit filed by the Ukraine at the international Court of Justice in The Hague from today. Kiev wants the ICJ to condemn "Russian aggression" and order the country to pay compensation for all "fatal events", including the downing of flight MH17 in 2014, AD reports (in Dutch).

According to Ukraine, Russia violated two international conventions regarding the financing of terrorism and racial discrimination. Kiev is accusing Moscow of the "illegal annexation" of Crimea, "illegal arms supply" of separatists and terrorism and discrimination against Ukrainians and Tatars in Crimea.

If the court convicts Russia, Ukraine wants the return of the Crimea and a ban on any interference form Russia with separatists. Kiev also wants financial compensation for all "fatal events.

This includes the disaster with Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 on July 17th, 2014. All 298 people on board the plane were killed when the Boeing was shot down over eastern Ukraine. Among the victims were 196 Dutch.

The preliminary results of an international investigation into the disaster concluded that the plane was shot down from within a separatist controlled area in the Ukraine. It was shot down with a Russian BUK missile system, which the investigators were able to track moving from the Russian border to the field from which MH17 was shot down, and then back again after the disaster.

Moscow calls these results "biased and politically motivated". According to the Kremlin, no missile systems ever crossed the border from Russia to the Ukraine.

Ukraine is turning to the International Court of Justice because all other means have been exhausted, Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin said, according to AD. "For over two years we've tried to settle the conflict through negotiations, but Russia will not cease its human rights violations", according to the Minister.

The International Court of Justice is the main judicial body within the United Nations and is located in the Peace Palace in the Hague. The court has 15 judges that rule on legal disputes between countries. Should the ICJ rule in favor of a criminal case in this trial, hearings for which start today, the outcome is binding to all parties and there is no possibility of appeal.

Relatives of MH17 victims are following the trial, but at a distance, Thomas Schansman, member of the MH17 commission of truth, said to the newspaper. "We are not part of this", he said. "With the government we have taken other steps against Russia. That is our priority."

Antoinette Collignon, spokesperson for the core team of damage lawyers MH17, told AD that "everything that happens to get to the truth is important. Including the hearings of the International Court of Justice".


First mention of this case (January 17, 2017) here:

https://sputniknews.com/world/201701171049662542-ukraine-sues-russia-violating-un-conventions/

Analysis, relevant links and comments (January 22, 2017) here:

https://sputniknews.com/politics/201701221049888396-ukraine-russia-legal-battle-icj-analysis/
 
Just archiving another take on the same news:

https://www.sott.net/article/344540-Poroshenko-begs-Hague-to-arrest-Putin-in-final-attempt-to-avoid-being-lynched-by-neo-Nazis
 
Keeping tab on the proceedings (day one):

https://www.sott.net/article/344644-Moscow-accuses-Ukraine-of-misleading-The-Hague-denies-terrorism-and-racial-discrimination-claims
 
Palinurus said:
Keeping tab on the proceedings (day one):

https://www.sott.net/article/344644-Moscow-accuses-Ukraine-of-misleading-The-Hague-denies-terrorism-and-racial-discrimination-claims

It seems that Poroshenko will most definitely fail. Russia is presenting evidence, while Ukraine is just throwing allegations. As the previous article you posted in this thread said, it's a desperate attempt by Poroshenko. Plus: "They may present everything they want. But the UN International Court of Justice does not deal with criminal cases. According to its Charter, it considers only disputes between states. Thus, Poroshenko has no prospects."

I also agree with what the Russian Foreign Ministry said: "Ukraine's main aim - if not the sole one - was not a settlement of some disputes, but search for a pretext for taking Russia to an international court."
 
Thanks Oxajil for your comments. It seems the Ukrainian plot is already backfiring (from Alexander Mercouris -- The Duran):

https://www.sott.net/article/344759-MH17-Russia-reveals-scale-of-Ukraines-BUK-missile-deployments

In court testimony about MH17 tragedy Russian official reveals Ukraine deployed 17 BUK missile launchers to eastern Ukraine.

The Russian authorities have for the first time revealed in court testimony the full extent of Ukraine's deployment of BUK missile systems to eastern Ukraine when MH17 was shot down.

The Russians have previously produced satellite photos of some of these launchers, the authenticity of which has sometimes been challenged (for example by the Bellingcat site in Britain) but which is now generally acknowledged. These satellite photos have however never received wide publicity in the West. On one occasion I found when I mentioned their existence to a British MP that he knew nothing of them.

The Russians' disclosure of the extent of Ukrainian BUK missile deployments to the war zone in eastern Ukraine on the day that MH17 was shot down was made by Ilya Rogachyov, a Russian Foreign Ministry official, in evidence to the International Court of Justice in The Hague, where Ukraine is bringing a case against Russia. This is what Rogachyov is reported to have said:

It is noteworthy that in the summer of 2014 Ukraine's 156th air defense regiment armed with Buk-M1 systems was in the area of the conflict. The regiment's command center and the first unit were in the
area of Avdeyevka, near Donetsk, the second unit was near Mariupol, and the third, near Lugansk. All in all the regiment had 17 Buk-M1 systems at its disposal. All were identical to the one the JIT
identified as the weapon that downed the air liner.


continued...

EDIT: minor spelling
 

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