Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?
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A compilation of videos here (some have been shared in this thread):
JGeropoulas
The Living Force
According to Brave AI: --
Drones Without Propellers
Based on the search results, here’s a summary of large drones without propellers:
- Impeller Drone: Designed by Marcus Kung, a student at the Royal College of Art, this drone uses centrifugal fans or impellers instead of axial fans. It’s a unique design that eliminates the need for propellers, making it safer and quieter.
Image from Rotor Dron Pro
Dronout X1 Pro
- Dronut: Developed by Cleo Robotics, the Dronut is a drone without exposed rotor blades, making it perfect for difficult indoor applications. It uses air ducts to generate lift and thrust.
ZeRONE
- Bladeless Drone: Designed by Edgar Herrera, this drone features a central air duct and four smaller propellers surrounding it. It’s designed to eliminate the dangers associated with traditional propellers, such as injury or damage.
There is also the Coanda Effect Drone Propulsion video from 5 years ago, the guy make some trials with a 3D printing to explain the effect. Add, it does use different kind of propellers, though.
It was long and mostly videos about the drone sighting locations, their uniqueness, civilian drones becoming disabled in their vicinity, and even one showing how quickly a drone is shot down when entering Area 51.
Looks like we really need a fighter jet for personal defense now?
Because of the speed it is visually hard to tell if it was a bird or something else that hit. But I think it is likely that it was indeed just a bird.
Five former military guys discuss the drone flap and give their take on some of the videos we've seen, some valid others not. A new idea was proposed for why this may be happening. In a few of the news clips it said perhaps new regulations should be placed to protect people from drones and partial bans may be needed. The idea is this may be an attempt to ban drones for use by the public because they have become to useful in a variety of ways which interferes with the control over this tech the government wants. Its compared with the attempted ban on some guns, body armor and night vision.
The shells containing netting to shoot at drones doesn't work according to one persons experience.
Mystery Drones Over U.S. Cities: What's Flying Above? EP338
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The shells containing netting to shoot at drones doesn't work according to one persons experience.
Mystery Drones Over U.S. Cities: What's Flying Above? EP338
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That author has published the same information on his substack. [I've decided to not embed the videos in his article here as they've already been posted on this thread (and there are too many of them to embed in one post anyway)...]
We Are in the Midst of the Biggest UFO Flap in Decades and Nobody Has Answers
There are a large number of UAPs in the skies over New Jersey right now, and a number of other locations as well - and they're not hiding.
Steve Skojec
Dec 11, 2024
Most people, I would venture to say, are completely in the dark about what’s happening in our skies right now.
For the past couple of weeks, UFO sightings have been on the rise, and the strangest and most persistent manifestation of this phenomenon is happening in New Jersey, where hundreds of sightings of strange “drones” that are roughly the size of a car and disguised to look like commercial aircraft (almost, but not quite) are flying around every night, low and slow, over residential neighborhoods and sensitive installations and even military bases. Drones that broadcast no flight information as required by law. Drones that stay in the air for hours, which typical drones cannot do.
And they look…off. If it’s possible for technology to fall into the “uncanny valley” — typically reserved for humanoid images that look almost like a real person, but just far enough off to trigger danger warnings in your brain — these do the same as regards their similarity to conventional aircraft:
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They fly slower, can turn on a dime, can hover, and are at incredibly low-altitude. The people who are seeing them in person say they look like planes, but are very clearly NOT planes:
There are also multiple reports that they are coming out of the water, though I have not been able to find corroborating video.
Lest you think this is just some silly misunderstanding, or mis-identification of commercial craft — the official response proves that it isn’t. The FBI is not only investigating this, they’re completely stumped. Congress is getting involved, and this is the best the FBI could do:
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One New Jersey Senator has called for a temporary state of emergency so they can figure out what’s going on.
Rep. Chris Smith of New Jersey said a Coast Guard rep told him one of their boats was followed by “12-30” drones of unknown origin:
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Picatinny Arsenal Army base has confirmed at least 11 unauthorized drones in their airspace. People who try to fly their own commercial drones near these things to get a better view find that they either won’t take off, or their batteries die when they get near them:
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Another drone user can’t get their commercial drones to fly in New Jersey in order to investigate what’s flying overhead, with false dead battery warnings on the controller:
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Senator Mark Warner, who is on the Senate Intelligence Comittee, says he is “gravely concerned” about what’s going on.
NJ MedEvac issued a warning over radio about the flight safety danger presented by
“5 to 7 drones flying at a high level over Hamington”:
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And yet, the governor of the State of New Jersey gave a preposterous statement this week, saying that despite 49 sightings in just one night, there’s no risk to the public, while still admitting they have no idea what these are, where they’re from, who is behind them, or how to intercept them. How can you know they’re not a threat if you don’t know what they are or who is flying them or how to stop them?
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And it’s not just New Jersey. Though that area is getting the most activity, it is worth nothing that UFO/UAP sightings are increasing at an astonishing rate all around America - and sometimes abroad. Just briefly, for those who are curious, I want to link to some of the videos folks have been posting since the end of November, when this latest flap appears to have started.
The following are by location, in date order:
Meanwhile, this week, someone claims to have leaked UAP photos from the Immaculate Constellation program, which I wrote about last month:
- Langley AFB, Virginia - This went on for 17 days, beginning in Dec 2023, but reported in October 2024
- Royal Air Force Lakenheath, UK (Nov 29)
- Arizona (Nov 29)
- South Carolina (Dec 2)
- Florida (Dec 6)
- Tucson (Dec 8)
- Oregon (Dec 7-8)
- Idaho (Dec 8)
- Dover AFB, Delaware (Dec 9)
- Missouri (Dec 9)
- Texas (Dec 9)
- New York (Dec 10-ish)
- British Columbia (Dec 10-ish)
Immaculate Constellation: Not a New Marian Dogma, But a Top Secret UFO Retrieval Program
Here’s a gallery with some of those photos, as seen at The Daily Mail:
Any of these videos, photos, or sightings, individually, may end up being debunked. Some may have prosaic explanations that are not apparent.
But taken in the aggregate, this is a lot of simultaneous, anomalous activity. As someone who has been closely watching the public, official disclosure of UAP activity unfold for the past 8 years — and has seen some of it myself — I can only tell you that this feels like a significant escalation.
As I was in the middle of writing this, Congressman Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey went on Fox News and said that highly-placed, anonymous sources have told him that Iran “made a deal with China to purchase drone motherships and technology” and “launched a mothership, probably about a month ago, that contains these drones…it’s off the east coast of the United States of America…”
If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Richard Geldreich, a software developer and UAP researcher who is compiling a massive database of all publicly-known UAP events going back more than half a century, and who has been all over this New Jersey story, reacted to Van Drew’s comments in much the way I feel:
Sean Patrick Hazlett, a “finance executive, engineer, veteran, and science fiction and horror writer” then provided the exact analysis I would have, if he hadn’t gotten to it first:
America is the dominant air power in the known universe. Of the top 5 air forces in the world, America fields four - the US Air Force (#1), The US Navy (#2), the US Army (#4), and the US Marines (#5). We also have a Coast Guard that routinely combats air and shipborne drug trafficking.
Our Navy is the most powerful in the world by a factor of 10. The next most powerful are Japan and the UK, both of whom are allies. We are surrounded by thousands of miles of ocean on either side. We have NORAD constantly monitoring our skies. We have drone jammers and anti-drone weaponry. We have top-secret aircraft in our arsenal that the public will likely only know about after they’ve been in service for a number of years.
There is not a snowball’s chance in hell that even China or Russia, let alone Iran, could operate over our skies with impunity. We have every technological advantage. The only thing that could get in the way of us dealing with this threat is our own administrative incompetence, but even with things as far gone as they are, I do not believe this. These drones have been flying over military bases and other critical infrastructure, as well as just normal American suburban neighborhoods. Not to put too fine a point on it, but the American military does not fuck around with that kind of thing.
Unless the technology is beyond us.
And as far as anyone knows, nobody in the world has aerial technology that outstrips our capabilities. Our adversaries are constantly trying to keep up.
So no, I don’t buy this narrative, and you shouldn’t either. Van Drew may not be aware he’s spreading disinformation, but I believe that’s exactly what he’s doing. If he were correct, we’d certainly have taken some of these down and have dispositive information on their origin and manufacture, there would be White House press briefings, ultimatums given to Iran, and so on.
There is something else going on. And we deserve to know the truth, not be fed a bunch of ridiculous lies to keep the real story hidden.
The fact that they’re trying to cover it up only underscores how anomalous this actually is.
Oh wait - just before I hit “publish” on this, this official contradiction of the Iranian drone story came out from the Pentagon:
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Be very suspicious of any official story on these.
I had to add a post-script to this. A few minutes after I published it, I came across this clip from a very pissed off NJ Assemblyman Brian Bergen — a former military Apache Helicopter pilot — talking about how the Homeland Security briefing on this issue wasted everyone’s time:
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His tweet says it all:
Love this guy. More of this from our leadership, please.
Dr Stephen Greers take on the drones,
Useful rule of thumb: if Stephen Greer, Alex Jones, and Mike Adams are saying it's "definitely a psy-op," then it's definitely not a psy-op!
If it's 'the real thing', then you'd expect the US govt - contrary to its official statements - to have been all over it from the beginning, attempting to down the 'drones', track the 'drones', or otherwise get solid visuals on them or intercept them. Ross Coulthart told Cuomo of News Nation that he has govt sources telling them they've been doing exactly that:
I remembered this convo from last year, where Kash Patel vaguely connects cryptids with UFOs, and hints at a space battle, maybe with China. Could be nothing but intel agency noise, but his words are all the more interesting given his potential position on Trump's team, along with this flap.
