Matriarchy to Patriarchy in the Neolithic and the Y-Chromosome Bottleneck

[axj]

Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this (massacre of men, genocidal matriarchies)?

A: That (manipulation) is the crux(cross) of the (biological/genetic) matter (between men and women.. as the context suggests). a.k.a. the manipulation of crossing of male and female cromosomes in meiosis, a.k.a. genetic selection. Just as it is today.

Maybe clarify what the actual quote is from the latest session is and what you added to it. This is the actual quote:

Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this?

A: That's the crux of the matter. Just as it is today.

Hyperdimensional manipulation can be about genetics, or it can be something else, eg. maximizing the amount of negative emotions for 4D STS to "feed" on.

 

[Serendipity]

Maybe clarify what the actual quote is from the latest session is and what you added to it. This is the actual quote:

Hyperdimensional manipulation can be about genetics, or it can be something else, eg. maximizing the amount of negative emotions for 4D STS to "feed" on.

Ok I will again.

Cs said:

Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this?

A: That's the crux of the matter. Just as it is today.

Maybe it's a wordplay. And a hidden answer about the type of hyperdimensional manipulation, that is contained in the choice of words and the expression "crux of the matter" that Cs used.

So if you interpret it as:

That (hyperdimensional manipulation) is "the crux of the matter" (the cross of the matter).
You get the answer that that hyperdimensional manipulation is the crossing of the matter (between men and women when taking the context into account), which happens when male and female chromosomes are crossed during meiosis.

And that would mean that that hyperdimensional manipulation is manipulation of meiosis, a.k.a. genetic manipulation, a.k.a. genetic selection.

Which would seem to fit with the historic record data you presented (infantcide and all).
And even the fact that it was more or less global, suggests it was being directed from a 'source above', a.k.a. 4D STS.

 

[Noctu]

Ok I will again.

Cs said:


Maybe it's a wordplay. And a hidden answer about the type of hyperdimensional manipulation, that is contained in the choice of words and the expression "crux of the matter" that Cs used.

So if you interpret it as:

That (hyperdimensional manipulation) is "the crux of the matter" (the cross of the matter).
You get the answer that that hyperdimensional manipulation is the crossing of the matter (between men and women when taking the context into account), which happens when male and female chromosomes are crossed during meiosis.

And that would mean that that hyperdimensional manipulation is manipulation of meiosis, a.k.a. genetic manipulation, a.k.a. genetic selection.

Which would seem to fit with the historic record data you presented (infantcide and all).
And even the fact that it was more or less global, suggests it was being directed from a 'source above', a.k.a. 4D STS.

Would the C's not put the word crux between quotation marks if they wanted us to investigate further? So, like this: "crux". I don't think it's a play on words. I think it just means: the most important point.

 

[Serendipity]

Would the C's not put the word crux between quotation marks if they wanted us to investigate further? So, like this: "crux". I don't think it's a play on words. I think it just means: the most important point.

Not necessarily. But it doesn't have to be a hidden clue. Also it could be, I can't know for sure.

 

[Nienna]

Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this (massacre of men, genocidal matriarchies)?

A: That (manipulation) is the crux(cross) of the (biological/genetic) matter (between men and women.. as the context suggests). a.k.a. the manipulation of crossing of male and female cromosomes in meiosis, a.k.a. genetic selection. Just as it is today.

This shouldn't even need to be said, but I will because this is just not done.

@Serendipity Do NOT change what the Cs have said - ever - for any reason.

 

[Ben]

Ok I will again.

Cs said:


Maybe it's a wordplay. And a hidden answer about the type of hyperdimensional manipulation, that is contained in the choice of words and the expression "crux of the matter" that Cs used.

So if you interpret it as:

That (hyperdimensional manipulation) is "the crux of the matter" (the cross of the matter).
You get the answer that that hyperdimensional manipulation is the crossing of the matter (between men and women when taking the context into account), which happens when male and female chromosomes are crossed during meiosis.

And that would mean that that hyperdimensional manipulation is manipulation of meiosis, a.k.a. genetic manipulation, a.k.a. genetic selection.

Which would seem to fit with the historic record data you presented (infantcide and all).
And even the fact that it was more or less global, suggests it was being directed from a 'source above', a.k.a. 4D STS.

It doesn't seem to fit with anything presented here. You're talking about something completely different here than what the record shows, and what the C's answer was referring to. You're referring to the recombination that comes from the formation of 'chiasmata' during meiosis. These are the points at which the chromosomes physically touch, leading to 'crossing over' of material. Something which happens in all sexually reproducing organisms all the time. If this process were manipulated by 4D STS, then how would it result in a Y-chromosome bottleneck or have anything to do with the events discussed in this session?

 

[Serendipity]

It doesn't seem to fit with anything presented here. You're talking about something completely different here than what the record shows, and what the C's answer was referring to. You're referring to the recombination that comes from the formation of 'chiasmata' during meiosis. These are the points at which the chromosomes physically touch, leading to 'crossing over' of material. Something which happens in all sexually reproducing organisms all the time. If this process were manipulated by 4D STS, then how would it result in a Y-chromosome bottleneck or have anything to do with the events discussed in this session?

By choosing which offspring survives and reproduces. And killing the rest.

 

[Serendipity]

This shouldn't even need to be said, but I will because this is just not done.

@Serendipity Do NOT change what the Cs have said - ever - for any reason.

I hadn't. I only offered a possible play on words interpretation. I didnt insult or abuse Cs words.

For any reason? Even in pursuit of truth and learning. Respectfuly that sounds like dogmatic thinking. Am I going to be banned now?

 

[axj]

No, I am just clarifying the genesis of the concept of worship of the divine feminine.

Because otherwise, in that context, what would be the role of “The Third Man” and his relationship with Bottleneck?

I do no understand what you mean. The religion of this "Third Man" ancient society saw the divine as neither just feminine or just masculine, but as a combination of both.

Whether this "Third Man" society had anything to do with the Y-Chromosome bottleneck is unclear. It seems unlikely since they had apparently balance between males and females. According to the C's, it was the matriarchies of the time that caused the bottleneck through the killing of males.

The opinion that Marija Gimbutas is a soviet archaeologist with some success but disqualified by the smithsonian magazine (which among other things is full of incorrect and recreated pictures) with polarized feminist ideas, is an opinion that I do not share but it is a point of view and I will not go into it.

I do not care what a corrupt institution like the Smithsonian says about anything and I do not know why you bring them up at all.

The skewed feminist views of Marija Gimbutas are plain to see in her books - I read one of those recently. Her collection of the actual data (figurines, etc.) can be useful, while her interpretation of ancient history through a feminist lens seems to be highly inaccurate.

 

[axj]

I only offered a possible play on words interpretation. I didnt insult or abuse Cs words.

By not clarifying what you changed in the quote from the session you basically misrepresented what they said.

For any reason? Even in pursuit of truth and learning. Respectfuly that sounds like dogmatic thinking. Am I going to be banned now?

How can misrepresenting what the C's said result in truth and learning?

 

[Breo]

@Serendipity Do NOT change what the Cs have said - ever - for any reason.

I hadn't. I only offered a possible play on words interpretation. I didnt insult or abuse Cs words.

There are (academic and common sense) rules on how to comment on a quoted text.
Original and comment must be distinct. Readers otherwise cannot discern the original from the comment.
Putting bracket with your content within a C's quote changed the text. It comes down to manipulating a cited text, no matter of the content of your comment,

 

[Serendipity]

By not clarifying what you changed in the quote from the session you basically misrepresented what they said.


How can misrepresenting what the C's said result in truth and learning?

I put a possible interpretation of mine in the brackets, so it is clear that it is my own and not Cs. And in an attempt to explain my logic, so others would understand what I'm pointing to. And yes I don't know if that interpretation is correct, I just shared. Also my original idea that it was genetic selection campaign done by 4D STS across the world early in the cycle after Atlantis, to prepare genetic ground for later in the cycle, doesn't have to be true. I just offered it is a possible option. To me it seems likely true. And that's it.

 

[axj]

I put a possible interpretation of mine in the brackets, so it is clear that it is my own and not Cs.

No, it was not clear. And neither was your added interpretation only in the brackets:

Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this (massacre of men, genocidal matriarchies)?

A: That (manipulation) is the crux(cross) of the (biological/genetic) matter (between men and women.. as the context suggests). a.k.a. the manipulation of crossing of male and female cromosomes in meiosis, a.k.a. genetic selection. Just as it is today.

How about simply saying "yes, I should have done it differently" and be done with it?

 

[Serendipity]

No, it was not clear. And neither was your added interpretation only in the brackets:


How about simply saying "yes, I should have done it differently" and be done with it?

Sure. I could have. I expressed the best I knew based on how my mind works, and it works unusully. Whoops.

 

[PopHistorian]

I stumbled upon this 16-minute video (posted 5 months ago) based on the Y-chromosome bottleneck effect of that period. Though, the hypothesis is not that women were the killers. I didn't see it linked here, so here it is.