'Missing 411', by David Paulides: Tracking unusual missing persons cases

I'm fascinated by David Paulides and his work, and of course I love this thread.

I love the interviews, I love the cluster maps, I love the mystery and the suspense.

I think it's great that he's ready to say "Don't go hiking all by yourself in national parks!"

This morning it hit me. I thought that he's going around in circles and should add a new angle to his work.

I hope I'm not being disrespectful but I would like to see him cooperating with experienced remote viewers.

They probably wouldn't be able to bring anybody back that went missing but could take a look at the scene when and where things were happening.

They may be able to find out where the victims who came back spent their time while they were missing.

Could it be that all of these events were so supernatural (or hyperdimensional) that nothing will come of it?
 
David writes this on August 13th:


Which links to this story of a missing TV producer (2018):


But what should have been another notch in his growing résumé quickly took an unusual turn. On the morning of Woods’ disappearance, he texted his father to let him know he was cutting short his time on the shoot by a number of weeks. The reasons for this are unclear. He did not explain why to his father, according to the texts seen by Deadline, but told Raw in an email that he wanted to see his mother, Valerie Woods, back in Maryland because she had health issues. This was despite Valerie informing her son before he went missing that she did not require surgery, as originally feared.

In the early evening that same day, the shoot was progressing as planned in the uncertain terrain of Orogrande, when Woods shocked his colleagues by doing something completely unexpected. Without warning, the producer ditched his radio in the dirt and ran down the side of a steep cliff before disappearing into a forest, multiple witnesses told the Idaho County Sheriff’s Office. He has not been seen since.

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There is this similarity to the case of Gia Fuda, two young people suddenly having an impulse or an urge to go or drive somewhere where no other people are around.

The novelty in this case is that everybody could watch him disappear on his own, so seemingly 'no foul play' there.

I think we are cattle and our owners are able to pick us off any time they like. :shock:
 
The novelty in this case is that everybody could watch him disappear on his own, so seemingly 'no foul play' there.

In this link the whole thing is expanded somewhat, and it turns out that his family were saying just that, foul play, yet reading on there seems no basis for it, and people with him that day were mighty perplexed and some chased after him, to no avail. His tracks went cold down near a road. There some oddities of changing character mentioned.

In that link, and only 50 miles away, on the same day Connie Johnson also went missing (a cook at a hunting camp who had worked in the forest service) and she has not been found since:

For some, the unexplained circumstances of Woods’ disappearance have been compounded by another missing person case on the same day, around 50 miles north of his last known location. Connie Johnson and her dog Ace vanished from a hunting camp in the Fog Mountain area of Idaho County. The dog was later found, but Johnson has not been seen since. Giddings said there was no connection between the cases and any suggestion to the contrary had been “thought up by those who were nowhere near the mountain or have any first-hand knowledge of the incident.”

Recalled the name, Connie Johnson, yet it was not in this thread. Here is that story:

 
David had this up:


Which brings up this link in his post:


Mentioning these 6 men missing, which have been captured in the above many posts (or some of them).

Missing men cases in B.C.'s southern Interior

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Marshal Iwaasa, 26 last seen Nov. 17, 2019

Iwaasa's torched GMC pickup truck was found by hikers on a remote forest service road near D'Arcy B.C., Nov. 23, 2019. His last known location was visiting a storage locker in his hometown of Lethbridge, one week earlier. Lethbridge Police are leading the investigation and say there is no evidence of criminality in the case.

Ryan Provencher, 38, and Ben Scurr, 37 last seen July 17, 2019, found dead one month later

The two Surrey men were last seen alive in a 2019 white Jeep Cherokee which was found four days later, abandoned in a wooded area near Logan Lake, located between Kamloops and Merritt. One month later, their bodies were found in a rural area north of Spences Bridge, 80 kilometres away. The RCMP has said there was "criminal behaviour" associated with the case, but no further details or cause of death have been made public.

Ben Tyner, 32 last seen Jan. 26, 2019

Tyner, a working cowboy, vanished from the Merritt area after riding into the hills to look for cattle. His abandoned horse was found fully saddled on a forest service road northwest of the city two days later. An extensive search by volunteers and police on foot, horseback, in helicopters and on snowmobiles, found no trace.

Ryan Shtuka, 20 last seen Feb, 18, 2018

The 20-year-old disappeared after leaving a house party at the Sun Peaks Ski Resort outside of Kamloops. RCMP and hundreds of volunteers have searched extensively through the village and its surrounding trails, forests and mountains, but few clues have ever emerged as to what happened to him.

Luke Neville, 48 last seen Oct. 9, 2017

Neville's burned-out white van was found on a forest service road 20 kilometres from his home in Spences Bridge. A cadaver dog search of the area in June 2018 turned up nothing. Last year the Neville family erected a billboard on the Trans Canada Highway in Spences Bridge, asking anyone with information to come forward. Police say they consider the disappearance suspicious. Brother Mark Neville says the family has not been informed of any developments in the case. "No leads, no suspect, no news," he said. "It's all in the police's hands and up to them."
 
This one could be added to that list, IMO.
Eagle Mountain is located in Indian Arm Provincial Park:
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Coquitlam Search and Rescue
August 24 at 3:59 PM ·

Coquitlam RCMP are asking for the public's assistance to find missing hiker Ali Naderi
Ali Safar Naderi was reported missing just before 9:00 p.m. last Sunday night (August 23, 2020) when his vehicle was found in the 2100 block of Diamond Crescent, Coquitlam.
Naderi is known to hike alone in that area almost daily. However, a concerned citizen called police after observing that Naderi’s vehicle had been parked many hours longer than usual.
Naderi is described as:
A 52-year-old Persian man,
With brown eyes,
Black, salt and pepper hair of medium length,
178 cm (5’10) and 80 kg (176 lbs),
May be wearing hiking gear
If you have seen Naderi, or may have information about his whereabouts, please contact the Coquitlam RCMP at 604-945-1550 and quote file number 2020-22677
http://coquitlam.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=2115&languageId=1&contentId=65676
Coquitlam RCMP - Police need your help finding missing hiker Ali Naderi

COQUITLAM.RCMP-GRC.GC.CA
Coquitlam RCMP - Police need your help finding missing hiker Ali Naderi
Police need your help finding missing hiker Ali Naderi

An article posted in the local news stated this:
" “Coquitlam RCMP investigators have searched Naderi’s vehicle and apartment for clues and have spoken to Naderi’s extended family and neighbours. There is nothing to explain what happened to Naderi and there is significant concern for his well-being,” reads a release from police."

A trail camera captured a photo of him , so the search has been recalibrated for that area of the Mountain:
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Ali Naderi hiking up a trail on Eagle Mountain on the day he went missing, August 23, 2020 (Courtesy Coquitlam RCMP)
 
It's been just over a year since Irish-French teenager Nora Quoirin went missing in a jungle in Malaysia. Even before she was found dead on day 10 of the intensive search for her, the case ticked all the boxes for 'Missing411', which I wrote about here.

In the meantime, her parents and British authorities (Nora was UK-born, so a British citizen) lobbied hard for Malay authorities to double-check every detail, re-question every possible witness, follow up every possible lead. This has culminated in a formal inquest; a review of the police investigators' conclusions that is open to cross-examination by British and French police investigators and coroners.

Because of the high degree of publicity this case generated (via British and thus international media), you'll rarely come across a more thoroughly investigated case. They fervently hope that by doing so it will pressure 'someone' in Malaysia to 'crack', resulting in a breakthrough that exposes the 'perpetrator'.

But all this is really doing is further strengthening the case for this being a 'Missing411' case, or what we would call a paranormal abduction.

The inquest is currently adjourned, but the first two weeks of it in late August firmly established that the developmentally-disabled teenager was found naked, partially submerged in a stream, surrounded by giant boulders, with no cuts or bruises on her feet, no foreign DNA in or on her body, at a spot police S&R teams with sniffer dogs had previously checked on days 4, 5, and 6.

Here's David Paulides with some recent commentary on the case:

 
In another recent update from Paulides, he discusses very interesting research conducted by a reader of his books, who checked the moon phase for all the cases in the Missing411 series. Paulides says he'll post this research on his website, though I don't see it there yet.

As per his emailed summary to Paulides, the researcher's finding is that paranormal abductions have a greater chance of occurring on a full moon or a new moon. In the case of missing hunters, he found that 16% of those occur on a full/new moon (whereas the statistical expectation of such occurring is 6-7%).

Not only that, 71% of missing hunter cases occur when the moon is either <75% illuminated or >25% illuminated. 42% of cases occurred when illumination was either <90% or >10%. He found such percentages consistently across all datasets in the Missing411 books. For comparison, he said there is no such signal in correlation between moon phases and suicides/crime.

 
In the meantime, her parents and British authorities (Nora was UK-born, so a British citizen) lobbied hard for Malay authorities to double-check every detail, re-question every possible witness, follow up every possible lead. This has culminated in a formal inquest; a review of the police investigators' conclusions that is open to cross-examination by British and French police investigators and coroners.

There is a brief here (September 3rd, 2020) regarding Nora's fingerprints associated with the window (broken as was explained by David). There is nothing conclusive. This window business itself is not explained (broken how - Inward or outward glass? et cetera):

8 fingerprints lifted from villa occupied by Nora Anne, cop tells inquest
SEREMBAN: The Coroner’s Court here was told today that eight fingerprints were lifted by the Photo and Fingerprint Unit of the Nilai district police headquarters (IPD) from the side of a window on the lower floor of the villa occupied by Nora Anne Quoirin the night she went missing.

Wan Rukman Wan Hassan, 55, who is now the strategic planning officer at the Bukit Aman CID, said for that, 20 fingerprint samples of family members of the Dusun Resort manager Haanim Ahmed Bamadhaj, employees and former resort workers, as well as family members of the French-Irish teenager, were taken for comparison.

Wan Rukman, who is the 11th witness in the inquest to determine the actual cause of the teenager’s death, said the samples of the fingerprints were sent to Bukit Aman for analysis and matching.

“The results found four of the eight fingerprints had inadequate features and could not be matched, while four were in suitable condition and one matched the mother of the missing person,” he said when testifying before the coroner Maimoonah Aid.

Wan Rukman, who was then with the Negeri Sembilan CID, said the results of the fingerprint analysis were conveyed to him two days after Nora Anne was reported missing from her accommodation at the villa at Sora House, The Dusun Resort, Pantai, here.

To a question from lawyer S Sakthyvel, representing Nora Anne’s family, on whether the teenager’s fingerprint was among the eight lifted, Wan Rukman said the sample from the missing person was inadequate.

He also said the fingerprint sample of the girl was later obtained with the assistance of the international police (Interpol).

To another question by Sakthyvel whether Nora Anne’s fingerprint sample was taken when her body was found on Aug 13, 2019, the witness said: “Some were taken for comparison but the fingerprints had shrivelled.”

During the proceedings, the court was also told that eight other fingerprints were found on the window frame on the upper floor of the villa, as well as a bloodstain in the bathroom of the villa.

Nora Anne, 15, went missing on Aug 4 last year, a day after she and her family arrived in Malaysia for a two-week holiday at a resort in Pantai here, 60km south of Kuala Lumpur

On Aug 13, 10 days after she went missing, her body was found near a creek in a ravine, 2.5km from the resort where she and her family stayed, following a massive search.

Preliminary surgical reports ruled out foul play in the death of the teenager who had learning disabilities.

It was said she died from gastrointestinal bleeding due to prolonged hunger and stress.

Probably nothing, yet as an observation - more of a curiousity, is this 'gastrointestinal bleeding' finding that is also not uncommon when at a high altitude (NCBI Paper):

High-altitude gastrointestinal bleeding: An observation in Qinghai-Tibetan railroad construction workers on Mountain Tanggula

Moreover, epidemiological and clinical studies suggest that gastrointestinal bleeding (GIB) is not uncommon at high altitude, and is often life-threatening[3,4].
 
"The right to film in National Parks is explained in relation to the First Amendment. David also discusses two unusual cases of missing people inside Yosemite National park.. "

Sidenote:
This Monday morning, the research to try to find her resumed, report our colleagues from Dauphiné Libéré.

They will focus on the nature reserve of the Saint-Bonnet pond. An area extending over about fifty hectares, composed of a pond, reed beds and woods. Because it is in this sector, according to information from the released Dauphiné, that the gendarmes lost track of the young girl.

Engaged on several occasions this Sunday, the dog team, with a Saint-Hubert dog known for its flair, lost its trace near the wood located in the extension of the Prairie stadium.


"My little sister has disappeared ... She was on her way home. The path she takes to return is from Saint-Bonnet center to the Fougères in Villefontaine, the last call she made was at Prairie stadium at 7 pm since she no longer responds to messages, calls ... ", relates Romane Dartois. "I write this message with a lot of emotion and I count on you to find her in good health. This is not a runaway, it is absolutely not her style."
 
Some interesting analysts, and minor anomalies, but they say, it's a possible homicide. The investigation is on going.

Death of Victorine in Isère: an open investigation for kidnapping, forcible confinement and intentional homicide
Mort de Victorine en Isère : une enquête ouverte pour enlèvement, séquestration et homicide volontaire
Par Vincent WALES - 18:40 | mis à jour à 19:00 (Time-Line, Videos, Pictures) Snips:
Saturday:
At the beginning of the evening, this Saturday, and after having strolled with friends and girlfriends in the Village of Marques, the student in Lyon 3 was to join the family home in the district of Fougères.

An 18-year-old girl disappeared on Saturday, September 26 in Villefontaine in Isère. It was his sister who gave the alert this Sunday morning. The gendarmes as well as search groups are currently looking for the girl.

"She was on her way home. The path she takes to return is from Saint-Bonnet center, to Fougères in Villefontaine," her sister said in the Facebook post announcing her disappearance. “The last call she made was at the Prairie stadium at 7 pm, since she no longer responds to messages, to calls,” explains Romane Dartois.

Thus, research is currently focused around the Prairie stadium, the Saint-Bonnet pond and the rise of Vaulx-Milieu, specifies Le Dauphiné. Contacted by the regional daily, the Vienna prosecutor's office confirmed the information and specified that an investigation for a worrying disappearance had been opened and entrusted to the Villefontaine territorial brigade.

URGENT ! MY LITTLE SISTER IS MISSING! This pretty 18 year old girl who is my little sister is missing ... she was ...
Posted by Romane Dartois on Sunday September 27, 2020

When she disappeared, the girl was wearing jeans, a pink Nike sweatshirt, white Puma sneakers and sunglasses. She measures 1m65. In her Facebook post, her sister also clarified that the girl was wearing the same white handbag she has in the photos released as well as the same earrings.

Shortly before 7 p.m., she was seen in the area of the Prairie stadium, which is confirmed by the use of the city's video surveillance cameras. She probably had to take a bus back to Les Fougères.

For his part, the mayor of Villefontaine, Patrick Nicole-Williams, provided support to the family, while the municipal police put their resources at the disposal of investigators.

"An investigation for worrying disappearance was opened on Saturday evening by the prosecutor, after the parents came to report the disappearance of their daughter to the gendarmes" at 9:30 p.m., prosecutor Audrey Quey told AFP, confirming information from the released Dauphiné .

"All the hypotheses, from the most reassuring to the least reassuring, are considered and I do not exclude any hypothesis," she added.

The gendarmes of the Grenoble research section are responsible for directing the investigation and work in joint referral with their colleagues from the Bourgoin-Jallieu research brigade.

Sunday:
7:40 am:
Concern is growing hour by hour in Villefontaine where Victorine, 18, has been missing since Saturday evening.

Because it is in this sector, according to information from the released Dauphiné, that the gendarmes lost track of the young girl.
Engaged on several occasions this Sunday, the dog team,
with a Saint-Hubert dog known for its flair, lost its trace near the wood located in the extension of the Prairie stadium.

Yesterday, divers began to explore one of the area's four "water points", to no avail. They will continue their research this morning. Pedestrian sweeps will also continue this Monday morning.

While the research resumes this Monday morning, the released Dauphiné learns that the investigators cannot count on the student's phone: he has remained silent since his disappearance. Either the device was turned off or its battery was flat. Also, it cannot be geoconnected.

Monday:
8:48 am:
The research with a Saint-Hubert dog has just resumed in heavy rain.

The gendarmerie calls on the population not to participate
in the research so as not to cloud any olfactory traces. The Saint-Hubert dog followed by his master himself followed by one of several gendarmes, has sunk into the woods.

8:10 am: This morning, research will resume, focusing on the Saint-Bonnet pond nature reserve. An area extending over about fifty hectares, composed of a pond, reed beds and woods.

1:55 p.m.: The Vienna prosecutor has just clarified the circumstances of the discovery of a body that remains to be formally identified. First, investigators found his sneakers, purse, and a surgical mask in this small stream. As they progressed, they discovered a body that, as of yet, has not been formally identified, in the words of the prosecutor.

A second team of criminal identification technicians has also arrived on the scene. The prosecutor also announced that it was "probably facts of a criminal nature", announcing that she would withdraw in the afternoon in favor of the criminal center of Grenoble.

2:29 p.m.: Three technicians in criminal identification put on their white coveralls before entering the "criminal scene". The technical and scientific police findings could last a good part of the afternoon.

3:57 p.m.: The forensic doctor is in the process of making findings on the victim's body. According to information from the released Dauphiné, the body of the young girl would not be naked.

3:49 p.m.:
The criminal identification technicians continue their meticulous findings. A white marquee has been erected on the road in order to protect them from the rain and to carry out the necessary investigative acts under cover. The different "effects" of the young girl are placed under seal once the samples have been taken.

4:13 p.m.:
Victorine's body was discovered just before the outlet of the stream allowing it to cross the departmental road, before flowing 200 meters further into the pond.

The place of discovery is a few tens of meters from the first clues discovered at the end of the morning, namely the student's sneakers and handbag, as well as a surgical mask. The banks of this stream are steep and wooded.

A second team of criminal identification technicians has also arrived on the scene.
The prosecutor also announced that it was "probably facts of a criminal nature", announcing that she would withdraw in the afternoon in favor of the criminal center of Grenoble.

The body of Victorine DARTOIS, 18, was found near the pond of St Bonnet (38). She had disappeared on Saturday 26/09 around 7 p.m. while she was walking back to Villefontaine (38). If you have any information, please contact the at the following toll-free number: 0 800 200 142

Other publications of this incident.

The national gendarmerie is still fully engaged in the investigations relating to the worrying disappearance of Victorine. 167 staff from SR Grenoble, GGD38, RGARA staff and EGM 25/4 Grenoble are continuing their research at Villefontaine.

The lifeless body of Victorine Dartois, 18, was found Monday, September 28 in Villefontaine, in Isère. The public prosecutor of Vienna, Audrey Quey, confirmed that it was indeed the body of the young woman, missing since the previous Saturday evening. The body "was submerged in a stream and difficult to access," the prosecutor said at a press conference. "It is too early to say when he died and what are the causes," she added.

Sneakers and a handbag matching those of 18-year-old Victorine had previously been found as part of research in the area. "Everything suggests that this is not an accident," said the Vienna prosecutor earlier today. The Grenoble criminal center is now in charge of the investigation. The prosecutor recalled that anyone who can provide information to the investigation should call the following number: 0 800 200 142.

The disappearance of Victorine on Saturday evening prompted the immediate opening of an investigation for "worrying disappearance".

Although she is of age, her absence immediately worried because according to the last elements of conversation with her relatives, "she was going home, there was no discomfort, she had not had any problem in her day. It does not look like a fugue ", had underlined the magistrate.

A beat gathered many volunteers

Large resources had been engaged with helicopter, ground police and a Saint-Hubert dog specialized in searching for people. The water points (ponds, streams) have been screened by divers since Sunday. Several dozen gendarmes were on the ground again on Monday and the prosecutor urged "to let them work and pollute the places of investigation as little as possible".

At the same time, technical investigations were carried out on the telephony, CCTV tapes are being used and investigators have conducted numerous hearings.

The older sister of the young missing had already launched an appeal Sunday on social networks, posting photos of her sister and describing her outfit on Saturday (jeans, pink sweatshirt, sneakers).
 
Hmm, something just seems to vague.

The young Victorine "died by drowning with the intervention of a third party", according to the conclusions of the autopsy, carried out this Wednesday.

The findings "cite a death by drowning with third party intervention due to multiple internal bruises found on the victim's body," writes Deputy Prosecutor Boris Duffau. No traces of sexual violence.

He clarified that "if no trace of sexual violence was found, it is not however possible at this stage of the investigation to rule out this hypothesis".


Victorine had disappeared when she returned home on Saturday around 7 p.m. and was found dead Monday at noon in a stream near the family home, in Villefontaine.

The investigation, opened on Saturday evening for "worrying disappearance", has since evolved into the counts of "kidnapping, forcible confinement and intentional homicide".

Forty-seven investigators from the Research Section of the Grenoble gendarmerie are mobilized on the case, "in particular to carry out a neighborhood investigation and hear any useful witnesses".

A toll-free number is activated to collect possible testimonies (0.800.200.142).

According to our colleagues from Dauphiné, the investigators were still on site this Wednesday morning to retrace the course of the student.
 
October 18, 2020
A California woman who was missing for nearly two weeks at Zion National Park in Utah was found safely on Sunday and reunited with her family.


Holly Suzanne Courtier, 38, hadn’t been seen since riding a private shuttle into the park’s Grotto area on Oct. 6. Her disappearance prompted multiple search and rescue efforts that were complicated by the fact that Courtier didn’t have a cell phone and hadn’t left a trip itinerary.

Park rangers located Courtier after receiving a “credible tip from a park visitor,” the National Park Service said in a news release, adding that Courtier has since left the park with her family.

“We are overjoyed that she was found safely today,” Courtier’s family said in a statement released by the park service. “We would like to thank the rangers and search teams who relentlessly looked for her day and night and never gave up hope. We are also so grateful to the countless volunteers who were generous with their time, resources and support. This wouldn’t have been possible without the network of people who came together.”

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The search for Courtier brought together federal, state and local resources, including the Washington County Sheriff’s Office, the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources and the Grand Canyon National Emergency Service Team, plus park staff and volunteers.

The Park Service statement did not include any information about Courtier’s health or her whereabouts for the past 12 days.

Courtier was reported missing by her family on Oct. 8, two days after failed to return to the shuttle after heading out on the Kayenta Trail toward the Emerald Pools. Her vehicle was discovered in the nearby town of Springdale, at the park’s southwest entrance, early in the search, Zion officials had said.

'The cougar guy': Utah hiker encounters a cougar who followed him for nearly six minutes

Courtier's daughter, Kailey Chambers, told CBS Los Angeles last week that her mom had been traveling the country in a converted van after losing her job due to the coronavirus pandemic. She described her as an "experienced hiker” who was.....

Damage control:
The original tweet from Zion asking for information says she was possibly dropped off by a private bus at the Grotto on Oct. 6.


 
A Utah sheriff's search-and-rescue sergeant whose team assisted in the investigation into Zion National Park hiker Holly Courtier is sounding off on details about the California woman’s disappearance and subsequent rescue that he believes “do not add up,” according to a recent report.

Sgt. Darrell Cashin from the Washington County Sheriff’s Search and Rescue said his team was enlisted to help rangers search for 38-year-old Courtier, a mom from Los Angeles who went missing around Oct. 6. But since she was found safe on Sunday, Cashin told local news station ABC4 he has noticed “discrepancies and questions that do not add up.”

ZION HIKER HOLLY COURTIER WAS FOUND IN 'THICKLY VEGETATED' AREA, REQUIRED 'MINIMAL ASSISTANCE' DURING RESCUE

It was not clear from the report if Cashin was present at the time of Courtier’s rescue, and a spokesperson for WCSAR did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request seeking comment.

Courtier was rescued safely from what National Park Service officials described as a “thickly vegetated area along the Virgin River” after authorities tracked her down based on a credible tip, an NPS spokesperson said in an emailed summary earlier this week.

“She was able to leave of her own capability with minimal assistance,” the summary stated.

WOMAN FOUND SAFE IN ZION NATIONAL PARK AFTER 2 WEEKS MISSING WAS BRUISED, HAD LOST WEIGHT, SISTER SAYS

Cashin noted that she was recovered within roughly a half-mile from where authorities said she was spotted, according to the report.

But Courtier’s daughter, Kailey Chambers, had a different description of the events that took place, telling CNN her mother hurt her head early in her hike and became disoriented.

“She injured her head on a tree,” Chambers said in a text exchange. “She was very disoriented as a result and thankfully ended up near a water source — a river bed. She thought her best chance of survival was to stay next to a water source.”

Chambers added that Courtier was so weak she was unable to take more than a step or two without collapsing.


“This prevented her from being able to seek out help. She told me she was so dehydrated she couldn’t open her mouth,” Chambers said.

Visiting national parks was "her dream," she reportedly added.

"She lost her job as a nanny due to Covid-19,” Chambers said. “The family could not afford to keep paying her. She made that a positive thing, said that gave her the time to get out, see the parks."

Chambers previously told Fox News her mother "absolutely loves hiking," and called it "one of her favorite things to do ... when she needs clarity and to spend some time with herself."

Cashin boasts approximately nine years as the county search and rescue’s liaison
, has more than two decades performing search and rescue operations, and is an emergency medical technician, according to ABC4. He reportedly questioned several aspects of both Courtier’s family’s and NPS’ outlines of events.

If Courtier had used the Virgin River as a water source for the full 12-day period
, Cashin said, there would have been a “high probability” that she wouldn’t have survived, because the water contains a toxic level of cyanobacteria, ABC4 reported.

HIKER FOUND IN ZION NATIONAL PARK 2 WEEKS AFTER GOING MISSING, PARK OFFICIALS SAY

“If she had been drinking that water, unless she had some really high immune system, she would’ve been very, very ill and probably unable to come out on her own,” Cashin told the outlet. “She either took a lot of water with her or had another clean water source that was near here, but the Virgin River is not that source.”

Spokespersons for Courtier and the Park Service did not immediately respond to Fox News’ requests seeking comment.

He also questioned the seriousness of Courtier’s head injury, and said rescuers would have taken specific measures if it was severe.

“If we had found somebody in that condition with that kind of severe head injury, we would have at minimum called for a transport agency to check her out,” Cashin told the outlet. “The fact that that didn’t happen tells me that they did not find any significant injury to her that would’ve prompted them to do that.”

Cashin noted “some question of her decision making regarding her trip to the park,” according to ABC4, which reported that based on Cashin knowledge of the events, Courtier did not tell anyone in her family about her trip when she left “in the middle of the night.”

“If she’s by the Virgin River, she’s down in the valley, not in the backcountry up in the plateaus and the peaks,” Cashin told the outlet. “She’s in that main part of the canyon, which always has thousands of people walking up and down those trails. I’m sure people walked by yelling for her.”
 
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