Moon Landings: Did They Happen or Not?
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From AI:
"Neil Armstrong landed on the moon on July 20, 1969, as part of the Apollo 11 mission. He became the first person to walk on the moon about six and a half hours later, famously stating, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind".
- Landing date: July 20, 1969
- Mission: Apollo 11
- First step: Armstrong took his first step on the lunar surface on July 20, 1969, though the actual time of touchdown was earlier in the day."
From AI:
"Neil Armstrong landed on the moon on July 20, 1969, as part of the Apollo 11 mission. He became the first person to walk on the moon about six and a half hours later, famously stating, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind".
- Landing date: July 20, 1969
- Mission: Apollo 11
- First step: Armstrong took his first step on the lunar surface on July 20, 1969, though the actual time of touchdown was earlier in the day."
Yeah, this was already mentioned in the thread, too.
Overall, my reason for quoting that session is because if we want to use the C’s to discuss the moon landings, then they’ve already said Armstrong “took man’s first steps on the moon”, whatever that means.
Problem is, they said the Atlanteans built things on the moon - pyramids or energy collectors or something. So either the Atlanteans weren’t ‘men’, or they built them here and transported them to the moon unmanned…
I was surprised at Gaby’s post, asking if we are going to take it as a given that Armstrong went to the moon, because as someone who has believed the Apollo 11 mission was fake since I was little, I’ve always felt it’s something of a sacred cow here in our group.
I was present at the session I quoted. I saw how the question was asked and how the response came through. It didn’t feel right to me. But reading between the lines, the message I get is to make up your own mind about it. Trying to get the truth about the moon landings in a C’s session seems to me like trying to define what Piety is by referencing the Greek Gods - who all disagree with each other.
Over the course of this discussion, I’ve leaned more towards the idea that maybe they did go, and things got so weird that images and stories had to be created. If it comes down to deciding whether they went or not, personally at this point, I’m honestly not bothered about dying on either hill.
axj
The Living Force
July 17, 2022:
September 9, 2000:
Maybe a quick question for a future session:
Did the Apollo missions land on the Moon with the help of secret technology such as anti-gravity devices?
This is based on Joseph Farrell's research:
September 9, 2000:
Maybe a quick question for a future session:
Did the Apollo missions land on the Moon with the help of secret technology such as anti-gravity devices?
This is based on Joseph Farrell's research:
INDIA SNAPS SOME INTERESTING PHOTOS OF THE LUNAR SURFACE
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According to RA the deep state were in possession of 573 UAP type craft in 1981 already.
Their production should at least have started in 1978 with their development and experimentation probably starting in the Apollo time range. I wonder if some spin-off from the new technology was used for the Moon missions to make Apollo more dependable.
Any devices should have been small and inconspicuous and could have been removed before putting the Apollo capsules on exhibition.
The thought of returning to the moon using a 60 year old technology doesn't make sense other than trying to hide new existing forms of transport from the public.
Their production should at least have started in 1978 with their development and experimentation probably starting in the Apollo time range. I wonder if some spin-off from the new technology was used for the Moon missions to make Apollo more dependable.
Any devices should have been small and inconspicuous and could have been removed before putting the Apollo capsules on exhibition.
The thought of returning to the moon using a 60 year old technology doesn't make sense other than trying to hide new existing forms of transport from the public.
Wandering Star
The Living Force
In 1492 a man made those voyages across unexplored waters in the Atlantic Ocean and he did it in this way:
20 meters by 6 meters wide, without cabins and sleeping on the floor.
I've been on a life-size replica of one of Columbus's caravels, and it's a disorienting experience. It seems impossible that anyone could sail that nutshell anywhere.
What is known about radiation in space and the technology used in trips to the moon seems to make no sense.
Perhaps they were lucky until reality forced them to stop doing it due to multiple problems.
What is very strange is the perfection of how everything went on the first trip and the absence of any health problems in the astronauts.
They looked as if they had returned from a walk in the park.
There's definitely something strange about this.
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Brewer
Jedi Council Member
I'd say it is, calling those skeptical of Apollo libtards is over the top. Pretty much the only thing stopping me from making regular donations FWIW. Not because of any hurt feelings but I think it may affect transmissions in other areas.
Or they did a 6D face palm and some other entity 'stepped' in. Solid questions required.
The Cs did say this about the Apollo missions:
Session 9 September 2000
But I suppose that you will construe this as an STS dude stepping in. Even though Laura would have been a bit suspicious because of the way things would feel with an STS entity taking over.
Session 9 September 2000
But I suppose that you will construe this as an STS dude stepping in. Even though Laura would have been a bit suspicious because of the way things would feel with an STS entity taking over.
What I would ask is if there was some monitoring by 4D and so some setup from their part. I mean perhaps astronauts were show some setup when they were on the moon or there was some manipulation we can't really imagine. If the answer is yes to the question if 4D was involved with the moon landing, God knows what they plotted.
Moine
Jedi
Uh oh, someone said the "occult" word ...
I'll offer a few words as to why such rumors get started in the first place. My way to deal with them, is via Occam's Razor.
The issue starts with your politics --- or the arrangement between your 1) economics, your 2) legal system, your 3) resources, and 4) whomever's involved, in all parts big and small. Due to the stick measuring contest between international powers at the time, injecting amphetamines and cocaine (federal money and resources), intravenously into a nation's circulatory economics, towards attempting the insane and previously impossible, was seen as the means towards an end, of that sort of situation.
Over the course of many years, an entire military-corporate block was imagined, and built from scratch, wherein pioneering technology based on explosive propulsion methods was the name of the game. This effort wasn't much of an extension of the ICBM technology either. If they had better concurrent, or alternate technology at the time, they would have surely used it -- instead we got the whole progression of the Mercury, Gemini, and eventually Apollo mission programs, which were quite lengthy.
Once those missions were over, the political willpower evaporated quickly, and funding kept being redirected towards other priorities. That deals with the start. The end of the issue is that the nature of 3rd density space travel is something akin to an exponential curve in mathematics, as it relates to the amount of mass going to/fro anywhere. It's incredibly resource intensive even for small things, and the costs keep ramping up for any novelties included. This includes habitation, as without the Earth's biosphere, which we humans are suited for, we need to either bring suitable means, or construct alternatives wherever we might go. The tonnage values for these is another exponential curve which compounds on the second.
Hence, it was wonderful to accomplish the feat, but once we did it, we didn't need to keep doing it anymore. We have no purpose or need for the Moon, yet alone stay there for any extended duration.
The "occult" creeps into this true story in many ways, simply due to its nature. This stems from the Latin root's conjugate meanings and usages. 1) To hide, to conceal, to secrete (to make hidden, or to synthesize something out of) are the usual interpretations. 2) To not be revealed, discovered, seen, or even be something that most would not be interested in, make many things that are not in the everyday parlance and understanding of what is, or potentially could be, at play. Therefore, most of it is speculation. It sells magazines, books and news articles, and over time it makes a cottage industry of pundits and lunatics that are able to earn their daily wages for themselves and family.
It is quite entertaining indeed, if anyone has seen the likes of Iron Sky, or its sequel.
I cannot deny that #1 doesn't happen at all, since your representative governments and agents do fan the flames of speculation and conspiracy, especially towards those areas where there is little to none of it. It's like a magician using techniques of misdirection to dazzle your attention spans. They do this, so that they can maintain the benefits of careers, financial profits, and hierarchical control over all of their subjects, while making everyone pay, through taxes or financial vehicles of this or that kind, for all of their misdeeds and bad decisions. They won't care at all if 100% of its population thinks that the Moon landings were fake .... They will, however, care if its population thinks that the current political arrangements are fraudulent, and want equitable and just change, in ways that the same characters will not be able to weasel themselves back in after one or two generations.
However, #2 is more of the case. Many honest persons involved, have contributed significant effort in their lives in getting to know the myths, the legends, the fables, the mysteries of things written in literature. Their imaginations are fertilized by such things, and whenever there is any opportunity to attribute significance to this, or to that, they do willingly offer their creative input. Trevor Paglen expounds on such things, in his expose of the "occult" on questionable military iconography, in the video below -- it's very good:
Some of those really catch the imagination, don't they? Lol ...
I'll offer a few words as to why such rumors get started in the first place. My way to deal with them, is via Occam's Razor.
The issue starts with your politics --- or the arrangement between your 1) economics, your 2) legal system, your 3) resources, and 4) whomever's involved, in all parts big and small. Due to the stick measuring contest between international powers at the time, injecting amphetamines and cocaine (federal money and resources), intravenously into a nation's circulatory economics, towards attempting the insane and previously impossible, was seen as the means towards an end, of that sort of situation.
Over the course of many years, an entire military-corporate block was imagined, and built from scratch, wherein pioneering technology based on explosive propulsion methods was the name of the game. This effort wasn't much of an extension of the ICBM technology either. If they had better concurrent, or alternate technology at the time, they would have surely used it -- instead we got the whole progression of the Mercury, Gemini, and eventually Apollo mission programs, which were quite lengthy.
Once those missions were over, the political willpower evaporated quickly, and funding kept being redirected towards other priorities. That deals with the start. The end of the issue is that the nature of 3rd density space travel is something akin to an exponential curve in mathematics, as it relates to the amount of mass going to/fro anywhere. It's incredibly resource intensive even for small things, and the costs keep ramping up for any novelties included. This includes habitation, as without the Earth's biosphere, which we humans are suited for, we need to either bring suitable means, or construct alternatives wherever we might go. The tonnage values for these is another exponential curve which compounds on the second.
Hence, it was wonderful to accomplish the feat, but once we did it, we didn't need to keep doing it anymore. We have no purpose or need for the Moon, yet alone stay there for any extended duration.
The "occult" creeps into this true story in many ways, simply due to its nature. This stems from the Latin root's conjugate meanings and usages. 1) To hide, to conceal, to secrete (to make hidden, or to synthesize something out of) are the usual interpretations. 2) To not be revealed, discovered, seen, or even be something that most would not be interested in, make many things that are not in the everyday parlance and understanding of what is, or potentially could be, at play. Therefore, most of it is speculation. It sells magazines, books and news articles, and over time it makes a cottage industry of pundits and lunatics that are able to earn their daily wages for themselves and family.
It is quite entertaining indeed, if anyone has seen the likes of Iron Sky, or its sequel.
I cannot deny that #1 doesn't happen at all, since your representative governments and agents do fan the flames of speculation and conspiracy, especially towards those areas where there is little to none of it. It's like a magician using techniques of misdirection to dazzle your attention spans. They do this, so that they can maintain the benefits of careers, financial profits, and hierarchical control over all of their subjects, while making everyone pay, through taxes or financial vehicles of this or that kind, for all of their misdeeds and bad decisions. They won't care at all if 100% of its population thinks that the Moon landings were fake .... They will, however, care if its population thinks that the current political arrangements are fraudulent, and want equitable and just change, in ways that the same characters will not be able to weasel themselves back in after one or two generations.
However, #2 is more of the case. Many honest persons involved, have contributed significant effort in their lives in getting to know the myths, the legends, the fables, the mysteries of things written in literature. Their imaginations are fertilized by such things, and whenever there is any opportunity to attribute significance to this, or to that, they do willingly offer their creative input. Trevor Paglen expounds on such things, in his expose of the "occult" on questionable military iconography, in the video below -- it's very good:
Some of those really catch the imagination, don't they? Lol ...
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