Movie making collaboration

[Rich]

Hi guys, it's monday afternon on my side of the globe and we have two days to finish the spot up. I would like to see a little of your outro work Neema even if it is premature to completion, so to see if I can suppliment it in any way. Also if you could upload the rigged arm you talked about. What kind of edit are we going with for the intro; the AE edit outline I posted or are there new developments?

Hi guys, sorry for the late replay. Been working on the outro all weekend. Had lots of weird technical issues to get through. I've gone through several incarnations of this idea I had last week.

Basically I was trying to get the "get involved" hands to animate and kind of challenge the audience to get involved.
also had the idea that we would incorporate a multi person sound recording of "get involved", in one voice for emphasis.
Well way easier said than done.

And I'm starting to think that it might not even be right look, so check it out the short animatic here.(the animation is a work in progress) ;)

Parallel here is the arm in fxb format, see what you can do with it. lost my other file with all the arms so I have to remake that one. I'm going to reweigh the arm and make the multi arm rig again.

Lets go with the AE outline you did Parallel.

So guys let me know if this idea should be developed further or should we go for a static look?

I think it is going to be difficult to get it to look right, so maybe static globe and logo fade between NewOleans's new 'getinvolved'.

 

[paralleloscope]

Basically I was trying to get the "get involved" hands to animate and kind of challenge the audience to get involved.
also had the idea that we would incorporate a multi person sound recording of "get involved", in one voice for emphasis.
Well way easier said than done.

And I'm starting to think that it might not even be right look, so check it out the short animatic here.(the animation is a work in progress) ;)

It's funny but a bit disorientating, maybe it's the camera pull and movement between the text and arms. I would be leaning towards a more static look, thinking merely hands shooting up like when a teacher asks a class and the students wave or just shoot their arms in the air, at different rotational angles and at slightly different 'shoot up times'. Just like the pic I believe New Orleans remade which is on the site and posted earlier. Also I think we can leave the audiowork to Pob and Awtf, but the suggestion sounds interesting.

Lets go with the AE outline you did Parallel.

ok I'll render the sequence between 0 and 7th second and 12-15 and try and have it up by tommorow, but we need to figure out what happens in between (comets how many, should there be ones just whizzing by also, lizzie eyes, globe pulses or changes texture or whatever) and the timing of it, any suggestions. I'll try to composite the lizzie eyes into the next render.

Perhaps you Neema could render some different angles of comet (suggestions : closeups, 'over the shoulder', travelling alongside, slow pull outs to include globe) perhaps even with it's own alpha layer.

For the outro the only proposal has been 1 to make 10 secs of animated graphic plate and then 2 5 seconds of 'get involved'
I was planning to do some sort of animated background of the sitegraphic but it has not appeared yet so probably as far as 1 is concerned just go for the double bodied figure slightly pulsing and for 2 as Pob suggested start to see if the static image will work. Will try also to make this by tommorow evening.

 

[paralleloscope]

Here are some suggestions for look of globe (found a higher res map), feedback would be appreciated
perhaps we could render without starfield to see if it can stand alone or add some graphical vignette in post, or just reinsert starfield

I quite like the red one. seems more dramatic and works with the logo well.

I prefer the mono coloured aswell for a graphic feel, just can't decide if shine on water or without is best.

 

[The rabbit]

Havent been getting updates to this thread which is a pain. I didnt unsubscribe. Anyways Neema and Parrallel i have pmd you both with 3 files. Parrallel you already have them except for outro which maybe should be on a stillish piece with credits.

cheers.

 

[The rabbit]

red planet looks great. still background for outro seems to be most logic , simple and sweet thing to do. Just credits with globe would be fantastic. I guess this has been a little bit of a strain for folks so a big thanks for persevering.

I know its not what you had in mind at the begining of your post Parrallel but it gets the ball rolling i hope.

 

[paralleloscope]

Here is the latest intro, I would appreciate feedback on this. There is missing a proper comet and it feels kind of cluttered with the lizzie there, that middle segment needs an overhaul

Here is the outro so far, to see for length and timing, suggestions? Personally I think the outro audio is off in terms of atmosphere, Are you Pob and Awtf able to edit audio afterwards onto the clips?

What is credits, what should it say?

 

[The rabbit]

Here is the latest intro, I would appreciate feedback on this. There is missing a proper comet and it feels kind of cluttered with the lizzie there, that middle segment needs an overhaul

Here is the outro so far, to see for length and timing, suggestions? Personally I think the outro audio is off in terms of atmosphere, Are you Pob and Awtf able to edit audio afterwards onto the clips?

What is credits, what should it say?

All im getting from downloads are flv´s of pentagon strike!!!!!!!!!!!!

Credits Pob and I are discussing presently.We will have an answer within the hour as to what should be on credits.

 

[paralleloscope]

That's weird it works from here. Try pasting these :
intro: http://ge.tt/91kdWu5/v
outro: http://ge.tt/8LtgXu5/v

remember they are WIP's

perhaps you need vlc player: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

 

[neema]

I think it is going to be difficult to get it to look right, so maybe static globe and logo fade between NewOleans's new 'getinvolved'.

Sounds good.

Perhaps you Neema could render some different angles of comet (suggestions : closeups, 'over the shoulder', travelling alongside, slow pull outs to include globe) perhaps even with it's own alpha layer.

No problem. ill load the different angles asap.

red planet looks great. still background for outro seems to be most logic , simple and sweet thing to do. Just credits with globe would be fantastic. I guess this has been a little bit of a strain for folks so a big thanks for persevering.

I know its not what you had in mind at the begining of your post Parrallel but it gets the ball rolling i hope.

Well I really don't know why there is any strain. This project has been a nice "get to know you" type, and I'm up for doing more projects in the future. ;)

 

[Rich]

Here is the latest intro, I would appreciate feedback on this. There is missing a proper comet and it feels kind of cluttered with the lizzie there, that middle segment needs an overhaul

Here is the outro so far, to see for length and timing, suggestions? Personally I think the outro audio is off in terms of atmosphere, Are you Pob and Awtf able to edit audio afterwards onto the clips?

What is credits, what should it say?

Just spoke to AWTF, The intro the super, voice needs to be higher in the mix and to come in at 5 seconds. The comet looked fine on first look. We could have a cut anywhere between 3 or 5 seconds to a shot of the comet (clock going to about half past) then back to clock and continue as is. Only if it isn't too much trouble because we're very pleased as it is.

Outrio is great.

Just PM'd you credits

Nice job :)

 

[The rabbit]

That's weird it works from here. Try pasting these :
intro: http://ge.tt/91kdWu5/v
outro: http://ge.tt/8LtgXu5/v

remember they are WIP's

perhaps you need vlc player: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Yes Vlc was the answer.thanks for that. Pob has written down our discussion on what we think. I think its marvelous. I really do. As always a big thanks to all for your time on this.

 

[neema]

Okay so I don't know if you guys still want to use it or not but here is the updated comet. I think this close up over the shoulder is pretty good. I also did another eye animation. This one the lizard is a sleep and awakens to a distraction from the right. That's when you can cut to the new comet. its 5 seconds long.

Parallel, I added the png renders with an alpha to a rar file. I did one render with the earth and one render without.
Hope it works out, let me know if you need anything else.

 

[paralleloscope]

Thanks Neema, lizzie eyes were good I think.

Here are the tweaked Intro and Outro at a slightly higher bitrate
I hope it's good for you at everyman team, it can still be tinkered with if needed.

 

[The rabbit]

Thanks Neema, lizzie eyes were good I think.

Here are the tweaked Intro and Outro at a slightly higher bitrate
I hope it's good for you at everyman team, it can still be tinkered with if needed.

It is absolutely superduper! One thing and if it cant be done so be it. With the lizard eyes now , they are not above the earth.There is no earth in the same image with the eyes. Can the eyes be scaled down so as to show the critter is actually above the earth as in original.

BUT hey. WOW!

 

[Rich]

Thanks Neema, lizzie eyes were good I think.

Here are the tweaked Intro and Outro at a slightly higher bitrate
I hope it's good for you at everyman team, it can still be tinkered with if needed.

Love it! Brilliant job Parallel, Neema and thanks New Orleans for the grahics. The intro works really well. Great job!

Do you have a link for the outro?