Session 9 December 2017
Q: (L) Okay, well... Let me ask: Are there benefits to using psilocybin mushrooms or something like that?
A: For some, yes.
Q: (Pierre) We had this discussion. About the reset thing.
(L) If psilocybin mushrooms are not producing spiritual experiences, what do they do?
A: They bind to neuroreceptors and block certain intense ego oriented thinking. This has the effect of allowing a mass of impressions coming to and through the sensorium to be apprehended. The effect is to make the individual less controlling in their thinking. These effects can be lasting.
Q: (Artemis) So it like dissolves boundaries in a way?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So, obviously if the effects are lasting, one doesn't need to repeat it?
A: No. And in fact repetition can be damaging by altering brain structures via chemical pathways.
Q: (Artemis) Well, it does make sense that it can help people with depression because if your boundaries are weakened, you get the information you need to fight it.
(L) Well, I think the problem with depression is that people focus too much on their ego, or their own problems. If it dissolves the ego, it dissolves the depression.
(Joe) And it allows a mass of impressions coming to and through the sensorium to be apprehended. Oh.
(L) And you go from being so focused on yourself to being focused on everything...
(Joe) But you're still detached from normal life where you can interact with people.
(L) Yeah, it might help you if you are TOO focused on yourself.
(Pierre) Or wrongly focused. It's interesting because when you do mushrooms there are those amazing "hallucinations". But if I understand correctly, it's just a shift of focus from inward to outward...
A: Synesthesia.
Q: (L) That's making connections between different parts of the brain that aren't ordinarily connected, like when you smell a number, feel a number... So it just kind of crisscrosses everything; lets everything flow in and all the inputs are jumbled and that seems like a “spiritual experience” to ignorant people.
(Joe) Part of it I think is that all of that stuff that you're processing that you've selectively filtered in your daily life, you're actually seeing all the stuff that's in your brain.
(L) It's the stuff that's going on all the time.
(Joe) It's like rummaging through your garbage.
(Pierre) Yeah, you filter far less those external stimuli.
(L) And not just external, but internal. What's going on in your brain, like your whole neural sheet, your ears, your eyes... They're all taking in all kinds of stuff and it’s all being processed in different parts of the brain all the time, and most of it is just filed without being brought to conscious attention.
(Joe) And you're set up to only process that amount of information that helps you to function properly in the world.
(L) And people who are depressed narrow that focus even more to just those things that they ruminate on over and over again; their own “take” on everything dominated by programs.
(Pierre) Yes.
(Andromeda) They block out everything else.
(L) So, in general, for some people it would be a helpful therapy, but not something that one would repeat for bogus spiritual experiences. Is that the bottom line?
A: Yes