Azerbaijan has praised the effectiveness of the Israeli drones after Israel sent two planes full of weapons to Baku.
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Nagorno-Karabakh War - Armenia vs Azerbaijan
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Isreal really shouldn't if they know what's good for them. I bet that if they do Russia will active the S-400 and the S-300 they gave to Syria. An agreement was probably struck between the two that Russia will not use these weapons against the Israel air force operating above Syrian skies.
Reports are that the Azerbaijan Air Force uses a lot of dummy drones as bait for the Armenia Air Defense Force to detect the whereabout of its SA-8/Osa-AK SAM systems and identify real ones from mock-ups in. Russia has flown in units of the more formidable PantersS1 (Anti Air) to deal with the threat.
As long as fighting continues over this territorial dispute, Russia will not intervene directly. It is important to them that they also maintain good relations with Azerbaijan, as best as possible at least. If not they might jump in the arms of NATO. Just look at Georgia. They are also negotiating a possible membership.
That said, the geopolitical, cultural and economic sensitivity of the Russians to the Caucasus cannot be overestimated. If they think there is a real threat against Armenia then they will respond. OSIT.
For now the situations is as follows:
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Армения и Азербайджан договорились о перемирии в Карабахе с 12 часов
02:51 10.10.2020 (обновлено: 06:43 10.10.2020)02:51 10.20 (updated: 06:43 10.20)
In English:
Russian Peacekeepers Should Monitor Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire – Lavrov - The Moscow Times
Russian peacekeepers should be sent to Nagorno-Karabakh to observe a shaky Moscow-brokered ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday. Russia’s top diplomat made the proposal as new fighting erupted between the Caucasus rivals despite a truce that...
Well played by Russia, but I think that it should be obvious by now that Azerbeidzjan only used the ceasefire to rearm and bomb Armenian anti-air defenses who didn't expected to be attacked.
Ageeva
Jedi
The Azerbaijani leadership has shown its true colors. They're about as committed to upholding ceasefires as Ukraine. Russian peacekeepers would be ideal as it would be far from a toothless UN peacekeeping operation. They will be well able to defend themselves if attacked. However, it would take agreement by both Armenia and Azerbaijan to allow a deployment of Russian peacekeepers and I can't see the Azerbaijani military agreeing as long as they feel they can make more territorial gains. Russia may have no choice but to intervene anyway if the situation continues to escalate.
A Russian intervention is something I'm sure the war planners in Azerbaijan and Turkey considered possible but unlikely before they attacked. Now that scenario is becoming even more possible What will they do then?
dmnlksm
Jedi
Armenia has violated the truce for the second time. They are breaking the truce by attacking the areas where civilians live, by making missile attacks.
And I repeat, the videos seen on twitter belong to old times, these are the wrong sources.
www.hurriyetdailynews.com
And I repeat, the videos seen on twitter belong to old times, these are the wrong sources.
Armenian forces hit Azerbaijan's cotton factory - World News
Armenian forces on Oct. 19, in violation of the new humanitarian cease-fire, shelled a cotton receiving and processing factory in Azerbaijan's western Terter region.
Armenia has violated the truce for the second time. They are breaking the truce by attacking the areas where civilians live, by making missile attacks.
And I repeat, the videos seen on twitter belong to old times, these are the wrong sources.
Armenian forces hit Azerbaijan's cotton factory - World News
Armenian forces on Oct. 19, in violation of the new humanitarian cease-fire, shelled a cotton receiving and processing factory in Azerbaijan's western Terter region.
The Hurriyet website demands some clicks to be readable, do I choose 'Izin ver'?
dmnlksm
Jedi
This is the moment when the Armenian S-300 system was hit.
A simple and inexpensive mini plane was used as bait to locate the S-300 system. This plane is so cheap that even one of those missiles is more expensive. Shot after detection. Probably shot a Turkish made SIHA. It's just a smart Turkish war tactic. It has nothing to do with Israel.
The SIHA: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Bayraktar_TB2_Runway.jpg
A simple and inexpensive mini plane was used as bait to locate the S-300 system. This plane is so cheap that even one of those missiles is more expensive. Shot after detection. Probably shot a Turkish made SIHA. It's just a smart Turkish war tactic. It has nothing to do with Israel.
The SIHA: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Bayraktar_TB2_Runway.jpg
The US has suggested to send Scandinavian peacekeepers (i.e. US forces) to Nagorno-Karabakh.
www.presstv.com
30 October 2020
Russia open to return of occupied lands in Karabakh to Azerbaijan: Putin
Russian President Vladimir Putin says Moscow is open to the return of the occupied lands of Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
www.presstv.com
The tide may be turning for Turkish armed drones in the warfare against Armenia. It seems that Russia has start using it cutting edge electronic warfare weapons. Reports state that at least 9 so far this week have been knocked out of the sky.
ahvalnews.com
Russia shoots down at least nine Turkish drones over Armenia - report | Ahval
Russia has deployed an electronic jamming system in Armenia that has downed at least nine Turkish-made Bayraktar TB-2 combat drones used by Azerbaijan in fighting over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh, the Asia Times reported on Monday, citing Russian news reports.
The US has suggested to send Scandinavian peacekeepers (i.e. US forces) to Nagorno-Karabakh.
30 October 2020Russia open to return of occupied lands in Karabakh to Azerbaijan: Putin
Russian President Vladimir Putin says Moscow is open to the return of the occupied lands of Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
How to interpret this presstv paragraph?
What are these mentioned territories? Are they the part of Nagorno-Karabakh which is mainly populated by Azeris? Giving them back to Azerbaijan would again turn NK into an isolated territory again as before 1992.
Would the Azeris be satisfied with that or are they intent on occupying the whole of NK?
This may indeed be the turn of the tide since the Turks have indeed made fun of the famous S-300 system by playing cheap tricks on it and taking it out. Russia is forced to prove that the Armenians have mishandled the system or it has to admit that the S-300 has a serious flaw since this is a much sought after weapons system.
According to edam.org.tr Armenia deploys at least four S-300 strategic system divisions which are said to have been moved to border areas...
It will be hard for Russia to keep on playing a neutral role now, I guess.
From what I know is that they took out one battery and not an entire S-300 system. (and maybe it was a dummy used as bait) On Armenia soil. Had the Armenians responded it wouldn't have forced the Russians to engage. So from their perspective this works in their benefit. Not saying they did it deliberately but I don't know. The skies are now propably off limit for any drones, Turkish and Isreali. This is a major win for the Armenians.
It will be. But if the Turks didn't took out that one S300 battery on Armenia soil the Russians propably wouldn't have engaged their cutting edge electronic warfare weapons. The Russians are a reasonable folk. Don't exceed your boundaries.
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