NEed a JOB!

[Laura]

Where do you live, Nathaniel? (city will do). Are you a member of FOTCM? Have you been practicing EE?

I live in westchester new york. What is FOTCM? I dont have any money to buy the dvd for the EE but i have been practicing some yogi breathing since last year.

Hi Nathaniel,
FOTCM is the Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind - http://paleochristianity.org/

Also did you know that the complete EE program is available free online? http://eiriu-eolas.org/

See also: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=65.0

It sounds to me like you have not taken the Cs seriously in their urgings to "network." If you had been doing EE since its inception, if you were a member of FOTCM and working on yourself according to the principles, you would be aware that there are a lot of projects and opportunities in THIS network. But for some reason, you haven't been very attentive or aware and now you come here and want help finding a job when it is almost too late for us to be able to help you in the ways we have set up to assist our members.

 

[nate]

Where do you live, Nathaniel? (city will do). Are you a member of FOTCM? Have you been practicing EE?

I live in westchester new york. What is FOTCM? I dont have any money to buy the dvd for the EE but i have been practicing some yogi breathing since last year.

Hi Nathaniel,
FOTCM is the Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind - http://paleochristianity.org/

Also did you know that the complete EE program is available free online? http://eiriu-eolas.org/

See also: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=65.0

It sounds to me like you have not taken the Cs seriously in their urgings to "network." If you had been doing EE since its inception, if you were a member of FOTCM and working on yourself according to the principles, you would be aware that there are a lot of projects and opportunities in THIS network. But for some reason, you haven't been very attentive or aware and now you come here and want help finding a job when it is almost too late for us to be able to help you in the ways we have set up to assist our members.

I dont post much on this site becuase i was more interested in alchemy and reading books about it and i spend most of my money i had on buying glassware and the minerals, which i came to realize was a waste of money! I watched EE yesterday and did the breathing and i felt heat through out my body, which i was able to create heat before i did EE. So i guess its my fault im in this mess with no money...

 

[Laura]

I dont post much on this site becuase i was more interested in alchemy and reading books about it and i spend most of my money i had on buying glassware and the minerals, which i came to realize was a waste of money! I watched EE yesterday and did the breathing and i felt heat through out my body, which i was able to create heat before i did EE. So i guess its my fault im in this mess with no money...

Read this thread. Your life is a reflection of YOU. Hopefully, that will tell you something.

 

[nate]

Now i dont know what to do..

 

[Nawd]

One of the biggest lessons for me in finding a job, is that you don't particularly get to do the job you want, or are quailified for. For instance, being a server in a restaurant, a line cook, a prep person, Fast food (just don't eat the food!!), super market bagger or cashier.

I'd love to find a great graphic artist job where they just give me their idea and I come up with my concepts. But there isn't a job like that out here right now, but I do keep my eyes open.

Just some thoughts. What kind of job did you do before?

Now i dont know what to do..

 

[nate]

One of the biggest lessons for me in finding a job, is that you don't particularly get to do the job you want, or are quailified for. For instance, being a server in a restaurant, a line cook, a prep person, Fast food (just don't eat the food!!), super market bagger or cashier.

I'd love to find a great graphic artist job where they just give me their idea and I come up with my concepts. But there isn't a job like that out here right now, but I do keep my eyes open.

Just some thoughts. What kind of job did you do before?

Now i dont know what to do..

I worked mostly stocking and shipment with ups program but that was when i was 16.

 

[Mixtli]

Nathaniel I just can offer moral support because all the tips the members have provided are right on track. I guess this job hunting consists in a lot of effort in sending applications and patience for waiting. But it is really in the numbers. Send, send, send applications not worrying to much in the result and something will happen. I have a somewhat decent job as a teacher (which I like most of the time) but it just pays me for 8 months per year. And it depends on the subjects and hours I teach. Lately projects have not been flowing although I am working in designing two books this summer. Which I really love. I have tried to work as a freelance designer and it has been a little bit messy but so far I have not starved.

 

[D Rusak]

EE can really help with calming your anxieties about having a job, which really isn't surprising considering the state of things in the economy. I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but many people I know are in a similar boat. One friend filled out 100 job applications without even hearing a peep from any of them (yes, this was including followup phone calls and emails she made) until the final one, which ended up hiring her. Another friend fills out 5-10 applications a week to get a new job (she has one now that she hates), she has been doing this for two years now to no avail. So it's been hard for many people- unfortunately it seems as though we all need to be persistent. Don't give up!

 

[nate]

EE can really help with calming your anxieties about having a job, which really isn't surprising considering the state of things in the economy. I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but many people I know are in a similar boat. One friend filled out 100 job applications without even hearing a peep from any of them (yes, this was including followup phone calls and emails she made) until the final one, which ended up hiring her. Another friend fills out 5-10 applications a week to get a new job (she has one now that she hates), she has been doing this for two years now to no avail. So it's been hard for many people- unfortunately it seems as though we all need to be persistent. Don't give up!

Yea i tried the EE yesterday and i felt so relaxed and i felt sleepy.

 

[Beau]

Get your resume up on Monster and CareerBuilder. There's also nothing wrong with going through a temp agency or some other agency that will find you a job. Look through your classifieds every day, go to Craigslist to check for openings. Usually their are local/regional web sites that bring together lots of different job postings, just google like "jobs in Chicago" or whatever city your in. Also, just driving around commercial areas looking for now hiring signs is something you may want to try.

 

[Seamus]

Hi Nathaniel,

Have you thought about working with unemployed friends or family to start a business?

I worked mostly stocking and shipment with ups program but that was when i was 16.

FWIW A family started a business in my town a couple of years ago that is the only FedEx pickup/dropoff place around and they sell office supplies, cell phones and simple copy machine services. Maybe you could do something like that, but with UPS since you already know about their system from the inside.

Seamas

 

[domi]

Now i dont know what to do..

Network, network, network.
Think out the box and be open minded when it comes to the jobs that you would qualify for. Maybe something isn't going to be exactly 100% of what you're looking for, but look beyond that and try to imagine how it can help you get the job that you really want to end up with...think stepping stones. Also a great way to do the Work.

A lot of the people that I know in the tech industry get their new jobs through networking and not so much sending in applications. I think it applies, not matter if you're doing no tech, low tech or high tech. There is still that people component. Yes, send in those applications, but do follow up and try to get hold of decision makers. Be persistent and consistent while staying considerate.

Let me give you an example of how networking has helped me yesterday:
A colleague in my office send out a broadcast email to my office and one other real estate office asking if anybody would like a referral for a short sale (aka selling a house for less than the loans on the property).
I walked over to that person's cubicle, struck up a conversation and found it this was to help a family member. I asked for some more details about her family member's situation so I could make a good assessment of what these people's options are going to be as far as selling their home. A good 30 minutes later she send me the property address so I could look at the details and the contact information for one of the sellers.
I called this person and had a pretty long conversation about their situation and how I could help. I immediately hooked them up with a tax attorney who got in touch with them 2 hours later.
This tax attorney I met recently through networking as well when I went to a bankruptcy seminar and he has been amazing in helping my clients understand tax consequences of doing a short sale, loan modification, etc. He's been a gift from the skies and just what I needed at this point in my business.
Today I got an email from the sellers that they want to proceed with a short sale.
In summary, these small actions that I took to offer my services and help to somebody had this butterfly effect and provided me with business that I didn't expect.

I have had this kind of business come my way several times this year, all through networking. And I have thanked the universe/cosmic mind for it.
Mind you, this did not come out of nowhere as I've been educating myself these last 1 1/2 years and talking to colleagues about my new skill set.
So yes, you have to work for it, but if you pay your dues, take steps in the direction you want to go, you will be presented with opportunities to apply those skills and make a difference for people.

So don't give up and work on different aspects of yourself, e.g. mind set, education, etc.

Hope this helps and inspires you a little.

Dominique

 

[Laura]

Domi is right: network, network, network. As the Sufi Shaykh, ibn al-Arabi said, it is not esoteric work if it is not focused on helping others. Gurdjieff said emotions for the self are always impure. Seems that you have been focusing on the wrong things and now it's come home to roost! But, cheer up! If you were of the STS ilk in your basic nature, you would probably have been successful on the STS path you have been on. That's how it goes.

 

[truth seeker]

Hi Nathaniel,

There's been a lot of good advice given. One thing that has helped me in the past with job searches is to try and keep the pool of applicants competing for the same job as you as small as possible. This can be done in a few ways. One is by not going exclusively through the regular channels (answering ads in larger publications/websites). This is where the internet can be of really great use. Applying to smaller, lesser known companies can cut out alot of competition.

Cold calling companies that don't have an ad placed can also work. Sometimes if the timing is right, you can catch them before they place an ad. This is how I got my last job. She took it as a good sign that I had called while they were still in the process of discussing adding someone. There were no other applicants, so I got the position. Smaller companies are also a great opportunity to pickup many different skills as they have fewer defined positions.

Just walking into a place has also gotten me a job. As someone said, ask to speak to the manager at a time that is convenient to them. Look at the places you like to visit: parks, shops, etc. If you frequent health food stores, apply there - you can brush up on your knowledge of products here. ;)

If you let people know in a pleasant way that you're looking for employment, they can also act as further eyes and ears for you. These people can be close friends, family or even acquaintances.

Make sure you are dressed appropriately for the job you're applying for.

Make up a good, but short cover letter and make sure your resume is up to date as someone else said.

The point made earlier in regards to spelling is important. Don't rely only on your computer's spell check as they don't check for grammatical errors. If you need/want to have someone else check this for you, do so.

Involve yourself in activities/interests that you can also place on your resume - particularly if you're not working. As has also been said, this forum is a good place to start in building experience and references that can lead you to getting a good position.

Go out of your comfort zone. I'm not sure if you're looking strictly in Westchester, in other areas nearby or as far as the city. If you're not doing so, you may want to consider this. Also, there are quite a few shopping areas there, if you haven't done so, you may want to try those places.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask. :)

 

[Mikey]

Thanks c.a. for quoting the article "The Art of the Follow-Up After Job Interviews". I just could apply it on the phone and it really had an effect on the other side!

I was a little bit more determined to get what I wanted, that is, I wanted to get another meeting, while being very polite. It really works!