NEed a JOB!

[nate]

Thanks for the advice guys. But i was thinking that i might work as a truck driver since i always enjoyed going with my father in his 18 wheeler truck. He told me i should get into this work and you make descant money. All i have to do is get a CDL License. And it will help me be independent of my father. :)

 

[andi]

Hi Nathaniel,

It might help you to think if the job you want is for yourself or for the benefit of others, be it your family, your community or others.

If you are getting a job so as to fulfill your responsibilities, that is - thinking of others, then it may come easier to you to find it, because the self will always be picky on what it wants and tries to make the most advantageous choice, often decreasing the job choices (self intrest).

It may be helpful to remember that knowing the self can only come through service to others IMO. If you are unable to consider the others around you, you close down inside and you are not willing to see others as mirrors of yourself -and so you do not learn about the self but only what the self wants.

Hope this helps. ;)






edit: while writing the above, a small earthquake shook the house for about 3 seconds. Very unusual here (Montreal QC )

 

[rsnedaker]

Are you my friend on facebook? I am friends with most everyone related to FOTCM. If you are my first name is Rebecca S. You can message me your qualifications and I can try to possibly match you up with a referral. The international payroll hr company I work at is hiring and they have many locations, I am not sure whether they have anything local but I would be willing to look into it for you. I'd have to check. I know they take referrals more seriously. That goes for anyone who is looking.

 

[nate]

Are you my friend on facebook? I am friends with most everyone related to FOTCM. If you are my first name is Rebecca S. You can message me your qualifications and I can try to possibly match you up with a referral. The international payroll hr company I work at is hiring and they have many locations, I am not sure whether they have anything local but I would be willing to look into it for you. I'd have to check. I know they take referrals more seriously. That goes for anyone who is looking.

Hi, no i dont have you on my facebook page. What kind of work are you talking about?

 

[Laura]

You have to go to school to get the CDL license.

 

[nate]

You have to go to school to get the CDL license.

Yes i know. Its only a few weeks. I will ask my father since he knows all about it.

 

[Al Today]

[...]What kind of work are you talking about?

What???? Sorry about the bluntness but I've cleaned toilets so my kids can have an
a xmas...


edit: I apologize because each has different circumstances. I have experienced great thing happens unexpectedly . Explore opportunities. You seem to be a young'un and I was harsh. I regret the forcefullness. That was program #576.

 

[Beau]

Truck driving is an inherently physically demanding job. My uncle was a truck driver and I worked for the biggest privately-owned trucking company in the US, Schneider National, for a minute or two ;). I also contemplated going through training for my CDL. You'll want to consider the conditions which permeate the life of a truck driver: lots of time spent away from home. A typical schedule is working for 3 weeks straight, with no days off, then going home for 5 days and starting the process all over again. For some people, that is exactly what they want. Time spent on the road away from home. Of course you can choose to be a "local driver" but they'll probably suggest you do national first. Everyone wants the local gig!

Their are other jobs which require a CDL which do not take you away from home for such long stretches and don't require working 21 days without a day off. For example, you can drive a dump truck which would keep you in town. You can operate heavy machinery like bulldozers, backhoes, etc. Depending on your locale, their should definitely be local construction openings for people with CDL licenses. You can usually find those in the classifieds.

 

[kenlee]

Nathaniel, just to add to what Heimdallr said (which based on my own experience is right on accurate) there is also the CDL B license where you can be qualified to drive a local school bus (as long as get the required endorsements), or drive a bus for the city or maybe drive one of those tour buses (among other possibilities). But the CDL A jobs are much more plentiful so long as you have a few years experience but it can be very stressful. As I understand it if you get your CDL A license through a trucking company you’ll have to sign a contract to work for them for at least a year (on the road) and they’ll deduct the cost of that training from your paycheck.

 

[nate]

Domi is right: network, network, network. As the Sufi Shaykh, ibn al-Arabi said, it is not esoteric work if it is not focused on helping others. Gurdjieff said emotions for the self are always impure. Seems that you have been focusing on the wrong things and now it's come home to roost! But, cheer up! If you were of the STS ilk in your basic nature, you would probably have been successful on the STS path you have been on. That's how it goes.

What do you mean by network?

 

[Buddy]

Truck driving is an inherently physically demanding job. My uncle was a truck driver and I worked for the biggest privately-owned trucking company in the US, Schneider National, for a minute or two ;). I also contemplated going through training for my CDL. You'll want to consider the conditions which permeate the life of a truck driver: lots of time spent away from home. A typical schedule is working for 3 weeks straight, with no days off, then going home for 5 days and starting the process all over again. For some people, that is exactly what they want. Time spent on the road away from home. Of course you can choose to be a "local driver" but they'll probably suggest you do national first. Everyone wants the local gig!

Their are other jobs which require a CDL which do not take you away from home for such long stretches and don't require working 21 days without a day off. For example, you can drive a dump truck which would keep you in town. You can operate heavy machinery like bulldozers, backhoes, etc. Depending on your locale, their should definitely be local construction openings for people with CDL licenses. You can usually find those in the classifieds.

I agree. I was financed to attend a truck driving school and I got my CDL back in 2001, but I don't have it anymore. After graduation, I went into training with a company. My on-the-road trainer had three words in his vocabulary: ROLL, ROLL, ROLL! Heck, I couldn't even get enough sleep, not to mention having to retrain my bathroom habits. :P

So, if that's what you want to do, don't take your Father for granted - not even for a second. It will probably be much easier for you to learn while riding with him.

 

[nate]

Nathaniel, just to add to what Heimdallr said (which based on my own experience is right on accurate) there is also the CDL B license where you can be qualified to drive a local school bus, or drive a bus for the city or maybe drive one of those tour buses (among other possibilities). But the CDL A jobs are much more plentiful so long as you have a few years experience but it can be very stressful. As I understand it if you get your CDL A license through a trucking company you’ll have to sign a contract to work for them for at least a year (on the road) and they’ll deduct the cost of that training from your paycheck.

Yes this is all true. Even my father has to wake up early in the mornings to go to work and he sometimes doesnt even come home. I made my own website before but i did not have any money to actually advertise it so it did not go so well.

 

[Nawd]

I must have that program too, because I almost posted the same thing before I saw your edit. ;)

[...]What kind of work are you talking about?

What???? Sorry about the bluntness but I've cleaned toilets so my kids can have an
a xmas...


edit: I apologize because each has different circumstances. I have experienced great thing happens unexpectedly . Explore opportunities. You seem to be a young'un and I was harsh. I regret the forcefullness. That was program #576.

 

[John G]

What do you mean by network?

It kind of means don't just put in applications, actually talk to other people that can help you. I personally wish I knew how to make that work better. I've been unemployed for 8 years. My first application was actually sent in before the layoff (we knew it was coming) and I didn't hear anything so I found someone to email and I got an interview but not the job (one guy said I was too geeky or something like that).

My father got me an interview and I was apparently considered very smart but very introverted. For Radio Shack the interviewer kind of paused at the masters degree on my resume and muttered something about she guesses everybody has to work somewhere. I took a Restaurant Management course where the teacher said don't hire people with masters degrees for dishwashers. Apparently one can actually be overqualified. My sister in law who works at Walmart says they don't care about degrees there, she may get me in there some day.

The areas where I network a lot online unfortuneately require a PhD to actually get a job. I cowrote an e-journal paper with a guy who has that PhD but that didn't do me any good. I presented stuff related to that paper at a university including one on one to a relatively well known philosopher but I more or less bombed that online networking setup. I emailed another guy at a university about my work but didn't mention up front my lack of a PhD and the conversation stopped as soon as I mentioned that.

One does have to make sure one's skills can actually take advantage of the networking. My technical/networking skills seem to be a square peg for jobs that are round holes.

 

[rsnedaker]

In Rochester they have:

Call Mentor: Monitors associate/client telephone interactions and corresponding system activity to ensure consistent Quality is being delivered on all calls and that information communicated is accurate. Ensures that the Call Handling Strategy, is being utilized appropriately and consistently. Provides specific verbal and written feedback to associates and their managers regarding call strategy, system navigation, and resolution of issues. The Call Center Mentor will coach and counsel associates to improve call effectiveness. Analyzes call statistics and identifies regional trends. Recommends and supports development of training programs as needed. Provides technical support to the Client Service organization. Associates Degree.

Sr. Sales Support Rep -- Responds to inbound inquiries from sales associates regarding SBS product feature/functionality, system requirements, internal processes and related questions. Resolves client issues surfaced by the sales organization, some of which are potential escalations, and communicates resolution to clients and originator. General experience in client service capacity with resultant knowledge of payroll products and processes required. SBS Implementation, Client Services and/or Teledata experiences preferred. Exceptional oral and written communication skills. Good interpersonal skills. Ability to work under pressure of time constraints and prioritize. Effective time management skills. Associates Degree

I would MOST love to work with FOTCM myself volunteering in some capacity where I could be useful. If anybody gets hired at my company and stays 30 days they are supposed to pay me a referral fee. In that case, I will pledge $100 for each referral fee I am paid, to FOTCM. So if anyone's interested, you can message me....