Nigel Kerner - Gray Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls

[fille des bois]

Hello

I want to ask if anybody knows something about Nigel Kerner?

On Internet I found he was the son of a naval officer on the British Fleet Air Arm in the war. I know he is the author of "The song of the greys".

Yesterday I read on Karmapolis an article, where he spoke about the greys and the great peril, they represent for the humankind as a whole .

I don't know if it's disinformation?

 

[Vulcan59]

HI fille des bois,

If you use the search function on the top of the page you will find 2 other references to Nigel Kerner excluding yours.

Cheers

 

[Adaryn]

Hi Fille des bois,
The references on this forum also come from Karmapolis articles. I personally haven't read anything written by this guy other than the Karmapolis articles mentioning him. So I wouldn't know if it's disinformation or not. He seems to focus on the greys.
Perhaps you could post the link to this Karmapolis article (if it's in English it's even better) or make a little research about him on the Web and post what you found here?

 

[fille des bois]

Thank you Vulcan 59, I will read the post of Henry .It'll be very interesting

Thank you for your time

 

[rofo6850]

Split from the following thread:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18696.0

Laura says:

One has only to imagine the mixture of the non-creative, almost parasitic Neanderthal personality with the dynamic, creative, Cro-Magnon to get an image of the aggressive, dominating psychopath that is devoid of creativity, has no ability to conceive of time and space, and functions totally opportunistically. Perhaps that is the real “Neanderthal Legacy”? Just speculating.

In fact there are many facts that could lead in the opposite direction. Nobody denies the creativity of hominids of the CroMagnon legacy. However this very creativity and capacity was the key to manipulate and reproduce the material processes, the key to construct this modern world of machines. The creativity of CroMagnons does not rule out agressiveness, territorialness, racism and paranoid consideration of other human types and cultures, traits widely known as belonging to Caucasian ethnias. Maybe the most stunning and remarkable historical proof is the colonial legacy, what Europeans have done in the dominated thirld world countries. There seems to be truth that the majority of dark ethnias are in some way descendants of Neanderthal.

Nigel Kerner says in his second book: "Gray Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls", where he performs an interesting research about this issues:

"The greatest savage of all our kind in the history of our human species has sadly been the white Euro-Caucasian. This is not a racist charge. It is simply the truth. Though outnumbered five to one in the world by other racial groups, the occidental whute has proved, in terms of numbers, to be the greates killer of the human genus the planet has ever known. The ratio of people killed by this group, set against this killed by nonoccidental groups over the past few thousand years, is estimated at over seven hundred to one. The Huns, the Goths, the Visigoths, the Vikings, the Angles, the Saxons, the Romans, the Greeks and more recently the Germans, the British, the French, the Russians, the Dutchs, the Spanish and the Portuguese have between them in their colonizing greed accounted for some of the most draconian evil against innocent humanity the world has ever known" - Chapter 12 - Lamb Among Wolves

He goes on showing an interesting research about the DNA and mitochondrial DNA that suggests importants linked facts to this statements.

I know the great majority of members of this forum are Caucasian, indeed I am too. But I have been born in the third world and had the opportunity to meet and know in depth the mentality and way of living of aborigin american groups. It is enough to say this people were glad to give silver and gold to the greedy colonizers only to receive little mirrors full of colours, that seemed something magic and marvellous to them. Of course in our times things are not this way anymore, however the innocence and naivety of this people is still the same, in opposition to their dominators.

Kerner`s book is full of details and interesting research, he is of English origin but has lived all his life in Sri Lanka. You can find some material online here:

_http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0110/the-horde.php

I am not so sure Neanderthals could hold the blame for psychopathy, several psychopatic traits are easily found in people of the CroMagnon ascendancy. Maybe psychopathy can not be easily identified with DNA and ascendancy over early hominid groups.

Anyway it is a good issue for debate and research.

 

[rofo6850]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

Indeed there was a mixing of Neanderthal and other groups, made by some genetic engineer, according to Kerner:

Thus it is my contention that the Cro-Magnons are the result of direct crossbreeding with the aliens’ own genetic blueprint. Accomplished one hundred thousand years ago, it prompted, I believe, the huge exodus of humanity out of Africa. The Northern Hemisphere, which was largely covered in ice, provided the central stage on which these, the most complete interceptions of all, were carried out. Perhaps the Inuit legend which says that the first tribes were brought to the North by gods with brass wings, is based on actual truth. Maybe the super-race of the far North spoken of by the Thule Society has the same origins.

The problem is that nowadays nobody knows in detail how "modern man" came to be. CroMagnon appearance was sudden and the technological burst linked to this group is incredibly fast and powerful, it is difficult to consider this issue as a natural phenomena. Sure dark skinned people, nearly 4/5 parts of the total human population is not the pure Neanderthal type as it is known. The process is rather unknown.

However what was completely out of "normality", regarding normality as the pace and rhythm evolution took place in prehistory, was the sudden raise to power of the CroMagnon group, the astonishing progress in their dominance of technology. Sadly this quickness did not extend to other aspects of human behaviour and reality, for example, ethics, empathy and consideration for the other, specially the different.

 

[nwigal]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

I know the great majority of members of this forum are Caucasian, indeed I am too. But I have been born in the third world and had the opportunity to meet and know in depth the mentality and way of living of aborigin american groups. It is enough to say this people were glad to give silver and gold to the greedy colonizers only to receive little mirrors full of colours, that seemed something magic and marvellous to them. Of course in our times things are not this way anymore, however the innocence and naivety of this people is still the same, in opposition to their dominators.

The" innocence and naivety" of the aboriginal groups I have interacted with is more of a choice to be "innocent as doves, and wise as serpents", OSIT.
There are stories told of the devastation caused by ancient technology in the Great War that happened long ago. The surviving people of the Circle made a conscience choice to not recreate the technologies that lead to hubris, a false sense of mastery over nature, and easy final solutions.
Some of the elders have knowledge of math, astronomy, physics, and medicine that is very ancient, but it is kept hidden. They believe that the reincarnation of technologies resulting from ancient knowledge would only lead to a repeat of the Great War.
Of course, this is what is trying to happen...

 

[Laura]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

rofo6850, I hope you don't mind that I'm going to remove your posts from this discussion. I'd like to stick to facts here, and not bring in stuff from such as Nigel Kerner. I've also removed Nathan's post quoting Cs on Neanderthals and merged it with a previous thread on that topic in the Cs Exp. forum. I am perfectly aware of my discussions with the Cs, the point here is to gather data from mainstream sources.

 

[rofo6850]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

Sure, it is your forum and your place, it is exactly what I expected you to do.

However keep in mind that, along with my posts, you are removing facts too.

It would be interesting you people really listen to what is happening in the third world, it is quite different from what you think it is.

Anyway thank you for posting some of my messages in your forum. I will continue my journey in search of better winds.

 

[Z...]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

Sure, it is your forum and your place, it is exactly what I expected you to do.

However keep in mind that, along with my posts, you are removing facts too.

It would be interesting you people really listen to what is happening in the third world, it is quite different from what you think it is.

Anyway thank you for posting some of my messages in your forum. I will continue my journey in search of better winds.

I think you totally missed the point.
Laura wants to keep this discussion to the facts not personal opinions because she is doing the research.
If anyone is interested in our reality be it third world or elsewhere it is this bunch.
If you took your time to familiarize with this forum you would get used to jargon and the fact that very often there is no time for usual social niceties.
There are threads where we can reflect and there are threads where we ought to stick to the facts. I am sorry you took this so personally- It certainly doesn't mean you are not wanted on the forum.

 

[rofo6850]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

Corto, I didn't miss the point.

It doesn't matter who do the reseach, as I understand, in a path of knowledge, the knowledge by itself is more important than who is performing it.

Precisely Kerner "stuff" is excellent, well researched, full or references. More important yet, it is perfectly connected to the issue under discussion in this thread. Many who read Laura will get the feeling that is precisely CroMagnon mentality and creativity the one who has constructed this better world. Well, it is enough to see what is going on in this world to clarify this issue. It seems to be that precisely CroMagnon mentality is the kind of mind machinery that has created this cybernetic world. That's why Kerner connect this group with Greys and their controlling process.

Kerner books hardly can be labeled "personal opinions", they are very well researched, so well as many that has been discussed in this forum, I wonder why he should be banned. And indeed they bring interesting reseach precisely to this issue,

I didn't take it personally, it is by no means important for me what you think of myself or my posts, what worries me is the act of disqualifying and discarding material and research that doesn't seems to agree with the vision of reality that is proposed as dominant in this forum. This impress me as a poor approach to truth. Instead I would have expected debate and discussion.

Whether you want me or not in this forum is utterly irrelevant for me, I am way more interested in searching truth than being wanted or appreciated. No one owns truth, reality is incredibly complex. You can see that my observations has nothing to do with with social niceties.

I am indeed familiarized with the forum and have read extensively C's material and, given my knowledge of Jungian psychology, can understand their nature. In fact, I find the huge body of knowledge very interesting and appreciate the fact Laura had made the effort to share it with all the world. However, my interpretations sometimes are different from what I read in this forum. This is precisely the reason (IMO) they have stressed (the C's) the importance of networking.

 

[Z...]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

Sure, it is your forum and your place, it is exactly what I expected you to do.

Hmm, I only noticed this now.
If you would expect Laura to remove your post why would you post it in a first place.
Do you have some sort of agenda?

 

[rofo6850]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

My only agenda could be the search for knowledge and truth.

I expected this because I had seen it be done to other members of the forum who openly voiced their disagreement. Of course I didn't want her to do it, I posted because others could benefit from a debate around this issue and would prefer my posts to remain posted.

My thought about leaving has nothing to do with a personal feeling of being unwanted or whatever thing could be connected with my own ego and self-importance. It is more a pragmatic decision, if here I can not discuss things I regard as important or bring material I regard as relevant, and expect an open minded discussion and argumentation, well, it is time to leave and continue the journey.

Maybe you have read Karl Popper's book "Unending Quest", it is in the same spirit.

 

[Laura]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

Sure, it is your forum and your place, it is exactly what I expected you to do.

In other words, you posted it deliberately to sidetrack the discussion. That is called "manipulation."

However keep in mind that, along with my posts, you are removing facts too.

Not facts, opinions.

It would be interesting you people really listen to what is happening in the third world, it is quite different from what you think it is.

Perhaps if you had waited a bit until the evidence was assembled, you might have learned something. I am as much concerned about European Imperialism as you could possibly be and I want the facts. So far, the facts are that Europe was a VERY peaceful place for 25,000 years until war-mongering types came up from the Levant bringing agriculture and land ownership with them. The first archaeological evidence for war (not saying there wasn't other evidence, but I'm dealing with facts here), was in Africa right about the area where certain modern type humans and neanderthals are proposed to have mixed. There is a central core there, where cranial deformation, genital mutilation, and anti-woman, child attitudes prevail and spread. So, believe me, it didn't start in Europe with the Cro-Magnon people. Being creative and innovative does not mean being rapacious.

You need to study psychopathy for a very long time in order to understand exactly how parasitic, dull, non-creative, and mechanical it is. And then you need to study creativity and conscience and the will to do and be good. Then, you need to imagine how the drive and will of the latter, mixed with the mechanicalness and parasitism can become rapaciousness.

I've read the theories that it is all the evil Cro-Magnon who dunnit, but frankly, they do not wash. There is no evidence. That is, in fact, a propaganda program of schizoid psychopath as best as I can figure out after having read a raft of it.

Anyway thank you for posting some of my messages in your forum. I will continue my journey in search of better winds.

Funny how when people say stuff like that they never mean it.

 

[Laura]

Re: The Neanderthal Legacy by Paul Mellars

My only agenda could be the search for knowledge and truth.

That's not very evident. What IS evident is covert manipulation and a certain pathological persistence in seeking to impose your will on others in THEIR house.

I expected this because I had seen it be done to other members of the forum who openly voiced their disagreement.

Please describe exactly what you are talking about and cite the thread and posts. You are making an accusation here and you damn sure better be able to back it up.

Of course I didn't want her to do it, I posted because others could benefit from a debate around this issue and would prefer my posts to remain posted.

You may discuss the topic of your choice all you want in its own thread. Here it is:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18760.0

THIS thread has a specific purpose - it is about the work of Paul Mellars and related mainstream, factual research.

My thought about leaving has nothing to do with a personal feeling of being unwanted or whatever thing could be connected with my own ego and self-importance. It is more a pragmatic decision, if here I can not discuss things I regard as important or bring material I regard as relevant, and expect an open minded discussion and argumentation, well, it is time to leave and continue the journey.

You may certainly discuss things that you regard as relevant if they are within the purview of the forum objectives. But remember, this is MY house and what I regard as important, material and relevant takes precedence over what YOU regard as such, particularly if your opinion gets in the way of my objective. If you didn't come here to learn, then perhaps you should create your own website, forum, and do things your way? If you don't have any confidence that I have a clue about what I am doing, why are you here anyway?