darktown said:
Quote from Ark
Exactly. You got it. Even if you do not realize it. That's the whole point. If one is hardwired one way then it is impossible to act as one would be hardwired another way. You can try to fake it, but it will be a poor fake. You just have a different wiring.
Like I have a different wiring than Mozart had, so I can't really fake Mozart.
If you are hardwired with compassion you cannot fake lack of compassion. Well, you can try - but it is not gonna work.
I realize, be sure about it, more than you think. But it sounds a little…mmm…may I say National Socialist?, forgive me if my honesty sounds a little rude.
It doesn't sound rude, it just sounds stupid. Forgive my honesty.
If a person can't see the difference between distinctions made on the basis of external factors vs. internal factors, there's just not much anybody can do to increase their brain power to enable them to see it.
The National Socialists made their distinctions based on assumptions with little science to back it up (or faux science at best). The work exposing the problems of psychopathy is pretty good science though there is far too little of it due to the fact that psychopaths manage to suppress or derail it.
It could also be said that the Nazis were a textbook case of psychopaths corrupting an entire population that was ripe for corruption due to the long preparation by other psychopaths. Very much like most religions that create the problem - social and psychological distress - and then sell you the cure: "believe in our god."
Our point has always been that the worst kinds of psychopaths (not the only, though), are caucasian (Aryan if you prefer), and they have caused more social evil on this planet than any other group. In case you haven't noticed, there is a lot of evidence that Jews are a sub-set of Caucasians - witness the "red jews" of the Ashkenazi. There is also evidence of a close connection between certain Europeans and certain psychopathic types and blood types that exist in dominant (almost exclusive) proportions in South America. So it is not just a problem of Aryans.
The problem of psychopathy cuts across all national, ethnic and so-called "racial" barriers. The problem with the term "race" is that it really isn't applicable because external, physical features of modern humans have nothing to do with race.
darktown said:
I would feel myself inclined to more prudent and less radical explanations, cultural influences, survival pressings and why not teachings like yours?
Where do cultural influences come from? Those at the top. What sort of individual craves power and rises to the top? And once they are at the top, what creates social stress that needs to be survived? And no, teachings like ours don't fit with your "guilt by association" rhetorical manipulation.
What is seen clearly in your argumentation is this:
psychologist Andrew Lobaczewski said:
Carriers of this anomaly are hypersensitive and distrustful, while, at the same time, pay little attention to the feelings of others. They tend to assume extreme positions, and are eager to retaliate for minor offenses. Sometimes they are eccentric and odd. Their poor sense of psychological situation and reality leads them to superimpose erroneous, pejorative interpretations upon other people’s intentions. They easily become involved in activities which are ostensibly moral, but which actually inflict damage upon themselves and others. Their impoverished psychological worldview makes them typically pessimistic regarding human nature. We frequently find expressions of their characteristic attitudes in their statements and writings: “Human nature is so bad that order in human society can only be maintained by a strong power created by highly qualified individuals in the name of some higher idea.” Let us call this typical expression the “schizoid declaration”. ...
Low emotional pressure enables them to develop proper speculative reasoning, which is useful in non-humanistic spheres of activity, but because of their one-sidedness, they tend to consider themselves intellectually superior to “ordinary” people. ...
Their tendency to see human reality in the doctrinaire and simplistic manner they consider “proper” – i.e. “black or white” - transforms their frequently good intentions into bad results....
These doctrinaire individuals characteristically manifest a certain contempt with regard to moralists then preaching the need to rediscover lost human values and to develop a richer, more appropriate psychological world view.
Schizoid characters aim to impose their own conceptual world upon other people or social groups, using relatively controlled pathological egotism and the exceptional tenacity derived from their persistent nature. They are thus eventually able to overpower another individual’s personality, which causes the latter’s behavior to turn desperately illogical. They may also exert a similar influence upon the group of people they have joined. They are psychological loners who then begin to feel better in some human organization, wherein they become zealots for some ideology, religious bigots, materialists, or adherents of an ideology with satanic features.
darktown said:
But, before stoning me, let me cite some words of your group founder, (sorry, it was simply irresistible):
There's that evidence of schizoidia again...
darktown said:
Quote from LKJ
"I would like to see everyone doing our EE program and waking up and teaching it and getting together and pow wowing about some good activities that relate back to the original shamanism that is at the root of all the various Pagan lines.
"That's what I want to restore! It was only as a result of the destruction of cataclysmic events that destroyed that unity and introduced genetic mutations into the population that slowly, but surely, poisoned the blood of normal humans."
“My work is all about following these lines of Pagan/shamanistic ideas/teachings back to the Ice Ages, the cave painters, the Northern European origins, to find the most original, fundamental, common foundation of all of them. That's what FOTCM is based on. Paganism was the original Christianity and that is why people are always saying that Christianity has pagan roots. Well yeah.... more than anybody suspects.”
So what would those "good activities that relate back to the original shamanism" actually be? A ritual slaughter of a goat to Thor perhaps, and then the ingestion of some good entheogentic soup and a group orgy? Maybe a little weather witching and some wild game calling?
More evidence that you haven't got a clue about the topic. If you believe all the disinformation, the twisting and deformation of the ancient ways that has been propagated by the Judao-Christian death cult, then again I just have to point out your stupidity. There are many layers to the onion of lies that has formed around the truth of our shared history on this planet, and you obviously think that the dried, brown skin on the outside is all there is.
darktown said:
And that implied threat to all those who aren't good pagans, those who "slowly but surely poisoned the blood of the human race," is pretty scary and more than a little similar to the original philosophy of National Socialism. Nobody is human but us good Aryans...well, after all it seems old rofo was right, sadly right.
Ummm... you really haven't got a clue, do you? Nothing has demonstrated your stupidity more than this last comment. You really don't know the difference between a normal human and a psychopathological one, do you? You really don't understand that it has nothing to do with race, do you? You really haven't done your homework, have you? If you had, you would know that we have clearly stated that the Aryan psychopath is the worst kind. But the pollution of the blood is not an issue of modern human mixing, but rather (possibly) the REAL mixing of different species: Neanderthal and Modern humans. You really aren't aware of the links between Hittites, Hatti, Chatti, Franks, and Northern Europeans, are you?
Why? Because you aren't capable of doing the work to dig deep enough to find the truth. As the psychological description states above:
Their poor sense of psychological situation and reality leads them to superimpose erroneous, pejorative interpretations upon other people’s intentions. ...Low emotional pressure enables them to develop proper speculative reasoning, which is useful in non-humanistic spheres of activity, but because of their one-sidedness, they tend to consider themselves intellectually superior to “ordinary” people.
I understand, of course, that it is a waste of time to explain this to you because those who are "wired differently" simply can't hear the music. But for the sake of those who are wired normally and know instinctively that what you are saying is twisted and distorted, but it is done so manipulatively and in such a slimey, snake-like way, I write this response.
darktown said:
quote from LKJ
No, you are missing the biggest part of the picture: the source of the infection. Indeed, the whole body is sick and infected, but there is a microbe at the root. In fact, YOUR declared "model of our understanding of human evil" has been developed, trotted out, run through its paces, for a very long time and has done nothing to explain the problems normal human beings face. You could even say that YOUR model is the same one at the foundation of the "original sin" concepts. It is also quite clearly diagnosed as characteristic of schizoidal psychopathy: the schizoidal declaration.
Well, yours is much worse…lucky with your religion
The only reason you could possibly think that exposing psychopathology in human populations is a bad idea would be if you were pathological yourself. You are effectively saying that a sick person is at fault for having contracted a pathogen and has no right to search out the cause of the illness, seek a cure, and effect it.
Finally, your arrogance and self-importance is appalling and exceeded only by your ignorance.
